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gone wrong when india, with the surge testing against the so called indian very grown device. beginning in britain, we speak to the ex commissioner of india's food and drug administration, about why the vaccine production, capital, the world can't vaccinate its own people. all this more coming up in today's going, i'm going to 1st is britain continues to come to grips with testimony for the next top advisors, the u. k. p. m. board johnson. with the reason britain had one of the worst per capita death rates on earth. just incompetence and bureaucracy, or is it something more profound? something to do with the structure of british capitalism and joint now from italy, by professor guy standing for economic advisor to the shadow chancellor of the exchequer. under jeremy corbin, an author of the corruption of capitalism. i ron, today's thrive and work does not pay. thank so much guy for coming back on the show, which we were all in italy obviously, but i think you caught up with some of the evidence from johnson concierge. dominic cummings was the u. k. cobra response. do you think hijacked in the interests of rented capitalism as outlined in your book here? well,
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it is extraordinary kelly. incidence that the book has just come out of the same time as these revelations by dominant cummings. i must say that i'm not remotely surprised by what we heard. it is a reflection of a system that is chronically corrupt. and when i was working on the book, i realized the, the depths of the revolving doors we have between finance, big finance and politics. and politics has become a sort of stepping stone profession whereby chances go into political positions in order to prepare themselves for making mega bucks and huge salaries and bonuses and cetera in finance. and finance, of course, is the dominant theme. one of the points i make in the book is now in britain
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known financial companies as well as financial companies own fits that are over a 1000 percent of g d p. it's financial tail. why being the economic dog? but of course, i mean, i'm going to say, i mean i don't know the chances in this context, but the media here certainly did not react to the cummings testimony by talking about corruption. i mean, there was these accusations lying about the health secretary. it was incompetence is bureaucracy, it's, it's, these corruption was not, it was not key here according to the way the british media of covered the storage, well, less predictable to because mainstream media part of the rent g, a economy system, the main stream media owned by plutocrats and we have a situation where the big finance, mainly goldman facts,
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grooms people to go into politics and go into the media as well. and it's, it's institutionalized corruption so that you get the situation where many of the decisions that are being taken up for the benefit of finance and for the benefit of senior civil servants. and politicians who move effort effortlessly from their positions in public, in the public domain. in big finance. well, richie here, richard. so the chance here obviously came from goldman sachs and he'd say, no, he wasn't benefiting the goldman sachs brigade. he was benefiting ordinary people with his fellow schemes is help out to who to eat outside the more controversially . i mean, the subtitle of the book where you say, why work doesn't pay as people start to emerge. obviously the pandemic is still going on here. why does work not pay?
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i mean, that is a question that the vast majority of people in britain probably talking about is they come off low and back into jobs if they're lucky. well, basically the, the architecture of renting capitalism. make sure that most of the income from growth all from changes in the system go to the owners of property, financial property, physical property, or so called intellectual property. and these means the less and less going to people who rely on labor for the incomes. so we have this growth of the precarious on which i've written several books and we've gone what i've called in the book prospect of a triple k. in the sense that before the patent damage the crass from the leaves of people mainly making money out of finance. and as it were going up and up. whereas the brit carry at seeing declining wages declining access,
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the benefits in huge increase in private. and then during the pandemic, the plutocrats gained even more so brilliant as extremely well out. on the where is the precarious, have gone deeper and deeper into debt? and now we will have a new situation when the post lockdown phase takes place in which the, the elite and the crafts will continue to benefit. whereas the precarious debt will result in a day lose of homelessness. a dell lose of a bankruptcies. we have the allegations of 10 thousands killed by corona virus and needing to have the official figures. it's 125000 killed by covey, one of the highest per capita rates producers, dueling from the university walks and told us that will stare at the killed a $150000.00 people. when you talking about these impacts on the precarious does
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that mean more people are going to die out of his cake of post lockdown scenario than who died from corona virus in this country? i believe so, and i say that with, with a heavy heart because the period of 70. so privatize ation of our national health services as well as bid cuts to spending on health care and the privatization about care taken over by private equity. financial corporations often go bankrupt, leaving thousands of people in the beer homelessness really instead of in care. and we have a situation where morbidity and the stress, all insecurity, means that a lot of people are suffering from answers from heart problems from suicidal tendencies. and i think that is, it is quite possible that we will see
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a surge of excess deaths above what should have been the chase in the period going forward. i mean, the heartlessness shown by far is johnson about his remarks on a t roads and so on. this sort of is just so disgraceful, but it's, it's sad to think, but he's still prime minister, but someone can say that sort of things young that we have a situation where the privatized ation and the financial ation boss. national health system means that a lot of people are not going to be able to get the medical attention. they need the care they need and it's going to be a cascading crisis. i think going forward. and the real, really important thing is the must be a more effective condition. what is going on?
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i mean, now obviously the johnson comments about even bodies piling up in the streets that learn the 8 year olds. all apocryphal pending the inquiry that starts next year, but johnson would say the vaccine rule as has been a tremendous success for this country. what is the vaccine and to prevent the excess deaths that may will be higher because of rent. the capitalist approaches post locked down than cove itself. well, i believe that we have a, we already had a pandemic of stress in the country. i dissembled the evidence on that. the, the, the, a number of people who are suffering from mental disorders, mental strain and physical strains associated with that due to chronic and use chronic insecurity. the reality of the carrier. i think as long as we
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don't address the insecurity of society, we will not get out of this. we didn't quite whereby the talk chrissy and the finances are just making phenomenal amounts of money. if i give you one statistic, which i think is very important, be the value of wealth, private wealth in britain today, and risen from 300 percent of, of gdp national income to over 700 percent of g d p. and over 60 percent of our wealth in the country, private breaches is inherent it's. we have a system which gives to a tiny minority which as they show in the book, is accentuated by billions of pounds, not hundreds of millions, billions of pounds in is given to the owners of assets of the owners of wealth. and
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this means that something like 40 percent of the population in britain is scrambling the rounds to maintain the living span and are actually declining. and they are only maintaining it by deepening their private debt. this is the reality. so we have a situation where the private debt is over 200 percent of national income and has been rising. it's not public, it's private. and if it, the fellow scheme is increased in the quality, i think it's a disgraceful scheme. i'll explain why. in the book, but if propped out, this is very regressive because it's given far more to iran and then for the pro carry ad. but it's merely a stop gap measure. now there's no way we're told, with all the subsidy is to welfare claimants. and i know you're advising the shadow chancellor. now the shadow johnson, i was rachel reeves,
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you're famous. they said that labor should be tough of the, the tories on welfare claimants. tell me about how the book talks. i'm not alone and how we may be under these misapprehensions about who's getting the subsidies, the co option of descent. we get business programming and we're told, you know, we can be part of the equity is investing population and we can top up our assets to certain portion of the population. you see the evidence exists to suggest this corpse, those who would otherwise dissent and move them to the right angle game to grow. because more and more people will come to realize that this is a good, don't billing system of rent, some going for the tiny needs. whereas most people are going to be proverbially left behind. but also chronic insecure, some long term job populists,
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like johnson, well finally and legit corruption. do you think that people will just be too tired for any uprisings this summer, given that even the national order to office and there was no competition for the corona virus contract that apparently big farmer trying to recruit perceived losses from invest just a dispute settlement systems over covert procedures is going to rise this summer. can we expect uprisings on the streets of western capitals or people to tide from the precariousness of their existences? i mean for the moment. 1 that the tie i know since the desire for some desire to just get out. but i think there's a huge backlog of anger and resentment. they personally predict that will be a new surge of a precarious movement because we can have
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a vacuum on the left for very long. it will emerge as a more in madison paid tree ecologically driven agenda a nation. but there's a lot of anger and a lot of energy out am i hear from people every day about is i'm quietly, i think there's a build up. and if we get young politicians who are offering part of that vision, then i think that will be a spark to a fight because we desperately need it. professor guys turning, thank you. after the break, as brittany comes to terms with evidence of a arguable corona virus, mand florida, we go to the city in india, globally supplying astrazeneca vaccines to us can be a former drug administration commissioner. what has gone so wrong in his country? more coming up if i do have going undergrad ah
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back tomorrow, the 74th world health assembly winds down as tens of millions. grieve for relatives killed by corona virus just by britain having a capital death rate 10 times that of india. it is the so called world's largest democracy, that is now under the spotlight for its corona virus response. though, joining me now for me tonight in india is former principal secretary to the government. my roster mahash is i got it. thanks so much for coming on. so as i said, the rates may be 10 times high here. but kathy, but i mean, i may have had the answer. is that a give x in here? and it might have been created where your from their poor little side of the largest vaccination, the manufacturer reportedly was gone so wrong. why there are hundreds of thousands that have been killed in your country. and that is and if you really they be off of it,
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then they get $1000000.00 usa and in the course of germany and all that just down to the law. unfortunately, the why the population is do you enjoy? we do not in order that. ready are then i because of your favorite population to be when id ridge is not much. i just wondered, or then we also think about this because the top of all the
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low for india then the probably because the party and the very and certainly indian very and so called is certainly we're having surge testing here in britain because of it. i just want to ask actually about the factory the theorem institute in bruno because the ceo mr. branwa says that he had to flee india because of death threats. so what is going on in the history that he had to flee the size of his factory? the largest vaccination manufacturing facility in the world. i think it is not credit even if they go to the you k r i and i'm not sure how i don't think any of the country.
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i was the mission of water on the line that we have. i the one to explain it. we'd love one on the show. he does say though, that mr. moody is responsible for ordering to few vaccines. and this coming from someone who i know is family of financially donated to the congress party historically, but he has supported new liberal policies or the modi government. what do you make of him saying that you are leader or did just to few vaccines? that's why so many people today was back and this is everybody that is done and it was not coming out to be is not important to me is
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that most of the country the i n d b i indeed, they also hired. i could use a private audit that's not know what he's and it's all though it's nothing to do with all of that that it was in all right. and it was it the he just says, murder, you order to few. i've india. they probably hadn't missed the side of the population. they could have joined the band. i mean, you only ready by that time they have all your all the main reason that's always me. the reason that's really the reason you were the commissioner for
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india is rude and drug administration. but you don't think you, you bear some of the blame. i was going to be the they are also in the late fee will be on the mark up. they may need more of the awesome program i and that last faith. now i'm of the modern look, the furnished data for b in those water mark. unfortunately, the why do you need to do international, tentative if you are the one in my, where you are, is where the vaccines are so high. isn't this something much more fundamental?
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there's near a liberal policies of big pharma, of the closeness between governments and big pharma and how they operate, versus the great success of your neighbor with similar kind of population. the people's republic of china. listen, the process. i be sort of when data or the b b i has its life or death. they have the vaccine. who cares who licenses? i mean, do you think, i mean this is life or death for in his population? surely these issues by the well there about money and about rights. who cares? i began the binding contract on the engagement with some other countries than they had to be or say that
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i was so honoring the contract is more important than saving the lives of ordinary indian people. i'm not late that also getting was quite so bad trying to do so. the birdie has to be late because the time when the needs to be disclosed and all that nice or any reality dissolution of the section. all one good now.
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so this is in fantasy, the joe biden administration, he has sought a waiver on a painting and intellectual property rights. why do you think your old colonial masters here in europe, britain, holland, you, they don't want any relaxation of intellectual property, right? see if you as well as the fuel and all that by, by monday, but you played on that and i believe that the more you least have entered into the mission and why, why do you solve the problem in simply a nationalize all the big pharmaceutical companies in india, like the theorem institute and start to actually save the lives of ordinary indians, instead of trying to be contract actually obliged by new liberal organizations like
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the w i fi here on the or my life most of the time. so that the problem, the issue is, might be getting more lives or lives are more important than the, the scandal of a leak of the formula for the asters anika vaccine. anyway, let's just move on to this black fungus that apparently is causing a 50 percent mortality rate for those recovering for those who have it and has to do with the steroid use in hospitals because people have not been vaccinated. no, i think this
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is getting late and i think that is going to be awesome because i didn't use the i've been probably and i was, it is not happened to me but they can be brought into the media. if you do not think that is now, is the time for some real nationalism in india as it were when you're conversing with the with what's been happening in agriculture, the fights over the painting of seeds by big agriculture. littler and big pharmaceutical companies. do you do the corona versus time for reflection, for indian politicians and think tanks to get away from this new liberal model that comes from chicago and london and brussels?
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i gave you, if i buy the one that property and i do, what do you make of any small and every now any yeah, this is a who is different on the industry and therefore we need to have a different model and the job was in the us be the job market was so we all, we don't know we are supposed to be utilize people for the
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