we just shot $200.00, which is, you know, is the crazy milestone. i mean, i put i do a pilot and go home dennis. nonetheless, season 3456. so it's feeling pretty good to get it to that level. i love the idea you had man way back when you can see some guys sit, a lot of people have a baffled chamber between them getting an inspiration and i realize and then the other guys just moved through it. you combined a couple of shows in your head right and said wow, i should do that with the with bars. tell me, tell me about the birth of the idea. was somebody i was giving a speech to convention and somebody comes up to me and says you should be on t v. so i thought to myself, kitchen nightmares and mission impossible. take the file out with the different agents. i'll drop the ones that each week that i'm going to do and i'll have different experts if you will, each week. and i, i went to a friend of mine who ran tv for paramount because i had been a consultant to them over the years in written the restaurant business. he says to

me, john, to get it. you will never be on television. you too old, you're not good looking it up. it's never going to happen. so i'm driving through the paramount gates. after that meeting i said to hell with that, i shot my own fizzle real. it was originally called on the rocks, sent it to 4 studios, then it's got 4 out of 4 offers. it was on tv less than a year later. and i set my buddy. it doesn't black roses. and will leave a ball and believe me, just going back. i could tell you're 6667 cut to peter graves throw. and greg morris, peter lupus, barbara bain, marty, land, dallas roland, have with the great while? oh, shift fred south track. you could tell we grew up on the same ship. oh, march. yeah. remember that we faced out world leaders and stuff. i love that very cool. john. when did you, you have such a track record in it,

and at some point you must have just thought, well, i got to get in this business, did you jump in as an owner? did you jump in as a consultant? tell me about where you went from bar tendon and work and doors and stuff. you know, i wound up believe it or not, a grossinger is in the catskill mountains. and so i became a hotel guy, and then i started my own company back in 1986, then this is a consulting company. and we did many, many bars around the world even in places like hong kong, bangkok. so we became very, very well known bar and nightclub consultants and developers. and we build properties for hyatt international companies like that. and then in 1989, i started owning my own operations. and you know, that was, i got it up to 17 different bars and 17 different size. had the hollywood palace for a while, and hollywood, and a bunch of others and just got good at it. you know, john and i've known

a few people over the years who bought a place. i have one friend who buys a lot of restaurants and not him. i don't want to say him because he's very good about his clientele. but most of the got, as i knew who owned bars a little further, dad told me that same plea leakage was not i was not made up. there was a lot going at the door if they didn't have their systems type, right. oh completely. you have partners dennis, that you are aware of will. but yes, i'll tell you a funny story. last week's bar rescue episode was depend, demik is going on and the owner lost his house 3 months before i got there. but he's still running his credit cards up to pay all of his employees, so he pays them for months during the pandemic while the place is closed. now he gets to open a 25 percent capacity. the employees all come back. i come in do an audit and

they're robbing them blind after. how's a well tell you more about. i like the approach that you're taking this year and you can tell the people more about it wasn't show we're talking about obviously, you know, john folks baretski is now on the paramount network. and john's always gone in and listen like the guy, the guy who said he cooked for the queen and didn't occasionally go in and find the places just got the bad color scheme, the bad seating. it's not clean, they're not doing a tight, but i like the shift you made this year because there are people absolutely laid low by this overly efficient. yeah, i'll said the government, local guys were just running them into the ground. so tell me about the tweak in the approach this year job. what are you looking for on the show? you know, dennis, what you said was so powerful to me because depend demik didn't cause their failure . the government shut down, caused their failure. and you know,

i think that there should be a separation and we take a look at what is the cause of this. but you know, these are owners that, that risk their life put their life savings up, open these businesses and government shut them down. so as an end result, they didn't fail because of themselves. they failed because of this environment that they've been placed in. and then mac driven government buttoned up if you will . so it's a different kind of an episode, but you know, they're still responsible in some ways. and if there were still restaurants that did better during the pandemic than others with to go programs and they would nimble and they shifted. there were some that held more money back and they were smarter about their money. there were some that remodeled in some that didn't, so there's so fault upon them in some cases. but this is a very different season. you know, there was another one coming up in a few weeks. they washed their house 3 days before we got there. and 4 children under 10 years older. sleeping on a wooden floor upstairs. dennis and, you know,

everybody's talked about how the industry has been impacted by the pandemic. this season, a bar rescue shows how individuals the owners, the employees have been affected. employees are carpooling because they lost their cars. they've lost their homes, are sleeping, and living in each other's homes. it's a nightmare. and you know what, john? lot, everybody in that business is nimble a foot and immediately train or not everybody's danny meyer. what about the mom and pops place? the makes the best open faced turkey sandwich with chunky mash in the neighborhood . and i go in there all the time. all of a sudden i met at the door like it's the drama strain and i can't get in. i don't expect everybody in the restaurant business to be peer and met marie curie. some of them are just good mom and pop restaurants and they rolled these people and i am livid about it as i assume you are. oh and even more, in some cases, dennis, their 3rd generation owners of my empire restaurant that you know,

it's been around for 70 years. sinus in milwaukee comes. the plaza bar in new york is closed after being open 120 years and it's close. so you're right, i am aggravated about it and you know, families have been devastated by this. but you know, some of these bars dennis are part of the community. they're important parts of their community. so the community suffer to when this happens. well we're talking to our friend john topper and the show of course you know, bar rescues sundays 10 pm on the paramount network. and it seems to me that even if they run something you can pick it up somewhere on the backsides streaming repeated . you know this stuff side 3, just got a for a little for you know, something i series. somebody asked me the other day and i'm going to ask john about it after the break. they said, what do you think the, the unintended consequence of this, i hearken back to him, burns brilliant documentary, the prohibition. i have a feeling if they quit, keep screwing with this mass stuff. we might hear the word speak easy cropping up

a lot more than we used to. we'll talk to john tapper bought it right up to this. dennis miller plus one the when alex show the same wrong, why don't just don't the rules? yes, to fill out the thing because the after an engagement equals the trail, when so many find themselves, well, the part we choose to look for common ground the, who's

me an entire village in alaska has had to move if another country threaten to wipe out in america, we do everything in our part a project in what and a escaping climate change is the same threat right now. alaska has seen some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world. we lost about 35 feet 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring it is bad and that means the river is $35.00 pounds. then learning was

year before i think we're a part of america. there's for me or america for the i don't know, i mean i some fits in there were rescuing the food that they were scavenging or, or where were rescuing resources that are still good. this is best buy march 21st, which is in 2 days. all these potatoes, hall panels, onions, all of these came from waste round sources. the. this is great for me because i'm always looking for a way to give things away. because the tax laws, you know, definitely do benefit the wealthier people in our society. so that makes sense for them to throw it out right off, rather than give it to somebody who could use it,

then that person is not going to buy it in the segregated. all right, social class, most people don't want to convert by 1st. if you're born in 2 of 4 family, you're born into minority family. if you're born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your life, chances people die on average. 15 years older. born in the generational poverty it's a, it's a fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family. me a folks welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we're talking to long neck,

long islands. great. a very good, great. next log island. great guy, always thought audrey hepburn was born there, great neck long island spine as john her and john, if they listen, i've already heard rumors and this is we were talking earlier, but government overreach in my book. now they've let people open the door cause i kept a society and i have a feeling that are contrary and there, it's almost perverse to me, that we're going to try to roll back the sidewalks when it does move inside. as soon as they can, instead of letting the people who were just off the you know, off the clock for a year, use both of them for a while to get flesh again before they start easing back on the sidewalk. stuff. i have a feeling that if they keep pushing this stuff, a lot of people like during prohibition or go to go to some sort of civil disobedience in the form of a speak easy or i, you know, i just won't do it. what are your thoughts so by being over dramatic?

no, i don't think you are dennis, cuz in some cases people are fighting for their lives. remember the bar owner and staten island who they shut down and he went crazy against the government. so we've had some of these people rise over the past few months, but no, i think these are people's livelihoods, and i think they're backed up against the wall and i think they have no choice really. on the other hand, if i can be really positive for a moment, think about this, dennis. we're going to lose about 38 percent of our independent bars and restaurants across the country. when this is over 38 percent, that's a big number. think of the families devastated by that, but we're seeing in las vegas now. for example, the strip is full. we were busy this weekend all california license plates, but we were busy this weekend, so i see the marketplace this summer coming back in droves. let's say 80 to 90 percent of the market comes back, but we have 38 percent less capacity in restaurants. so if 90 or 80 percent of the

market comes back and we have 38 percent less capacity, that's boomtown. so i see great opportunity for the restaurants that can survive, that we have additional taxes coming down the road and god knows regulatory actions and things that are going to happen these next few months. and i'm guessing you're right, they're going to roll up some of the sidewalk elements and such. but at the end of the day, the restaurants that make it to july and august. i think we have a great opportunity next year. well listen, if it does come back with a vengeance, i hope people exact that vengeance on the next election day. folks, you have to look around you locally and you have to clock who the guy was who stepped in the leg, some junior league potentate and started telling you that he wasn't going to let you into an outdoor restaurant unless, unless he deemed that that was going to be the case. meanwhile, she turns out footage, like newsome in the french laundry has gone to the private restaurant. it's

unbelievable what they've done there. i know there was a virus, i'm not an idiot, but the way they played it the way they went after contractors like manicurist, trainers, waiters, waitresses, bar tendons. what do they have on common? free agents not really vested in the heard people who want to make their living and be left alone. just remember that they were squelched over the course of this. it's, it's the most vivid t card that you can read. we're talking to john tapper, once again. it's done a little know, and i'm with you buddy, but you know, it also should illustrate to people the power of local government and how, you know, sometimes we don't pay as much attention a local government. we focus on national campaigns. but it was a local government in very many cases that made these choices. local school districts, welcome chapters of unions, etc, that made these decisions. so i think we need to take look at politics from locality as well as national real hard this next cycle. exactly. john,

tell me about campers cover franchise. i'll just be honest. some tablo ross on this . i see it in the notes. i'm not here to it. i see was hatch during the coven. tell me barbara. so it's actually a cool story that is about 2 and a half years ago, unemployment was so low that the restaurant industry couldn't find employees. so i said, the casual dining restaurant model doesn't work. could i create a kitchen that has 60 percent less employees using robotics and computers? could i create the kitchen to the future? so i worked in test kitchens for 2 and a half years, working with sue be cooking techniques and computerized combi ovens. we call them that you steam and infrared and why even convection, all at the same time, and i develop this kitchen of the future whammo cobit hits. so we created a franchise model. we saw 22 franchises as cove it is,

is developing once coded hit. we realized, wow, we have the safest kitchen in the world. there's no counter space. there's no traditional stoves, there's no grease, there's no prep areas. so we started franchising tappers tavern. now we have our 1st one in georgia. we're opening and washington in boston. and it's the kitchen, the future, it's really cool, very, very automated. so it's really consistent, dennis, everything is so computerized that product is really consistent. labor burden is much lower and we're doing really well it's, it's what happens when you tear up the book and start from scratch and we did that with tappers tavern. you know, when i, when i even hear tavern, i think gleason, with the rolled up sleeves and robin the bar, frank fontaine cruise. i hope that in these bars of the future, john, part of a tavern field to me is the man of the of it all does it,

does it were you if we turn this to, to blood less your thoughts? it's interesting to say that because our slogan for the company is a bar is a bar, but a tavern has soul and you're right, you know, a tavern is part of the community. there's a famous british philosopher who called the bar. i forget the name of the last for the coveted 3rd place. dennis, she got home, you got work, and then you got that 3rd place that we go to. it's an important part of our life than our traffic. so these bars are important and you're right. you take the people out, there is no soul. so, you know we've, we've created tappers tavern to exploit interaction ceiling heights. i levels everybody's eyes are within an inches of each other to cause interaction. the flow patterns cause interaction. all of these things are designed to create that human dynamic that we talk about. you can make a scotch and soda home then if you don't need me for that, you can program your music program, your satellite system. the one thing that i have that you can do at home is that

whole humanity, that whole interaction element. and that's the core of our business. and i own the term reaction management. and i've always felt that i'm not in a restaurant business. i feel that you're not in the pod cast business right now. you're in the reaction business. you're achieving it through your podcast. but at the end of the day, if you don't create reactions from the pod cast, the pad guest is meaningless. so i would suggest that you and i were both in a business of reactions and he or she who creates the greatest reactions, wins. and you're right that sold that humanity drives all of that. now i'll be honest with you, john. i find the world so screwed up right now. i make them scotch and soda is by porn. 2 bottles done. mike gullet like some alcoholic. try to a smile and i think that in the future, you know what if p honest to god i was never even been here. nora my now were

old and mad around 5 o'clock each day i was never nic. and nora. charles with the med thing, i do get to, i almost feel like this is been good for a whole call because you definitely i need, i think need the wind. i'm a little dusk. i think it's true. you know, it's interesting all of these mix ologist around the country. did these on line happy hours and drink training programs and stuff. and everybody's consumption at home is gone way up. i own a mixer, wine, cocktail mixers and a seltzer line of alcoholic shelters. and we've done really, really well, because people are drinking at home, but they're making sophisticated cocktails at home and they're having some fun with it. and as you're right, i think we sort of need it now i, you know, i'm trying to, did you have a lemonade stand that branch down to a palm granite. then when you are kidding, you can see the entrepreneurial thing. and here you have taste. taken

a pretty basic american birthright, which is to go somewhere and have a cocktail. the immigrants saw that it and you seem to be smart enough. you dwell in the ether. you can see the brand shots, the off shoots. when did you 1st get a hit to the fact that your mind would see suddenly and think what's, what's the tweak? what's the up sale on that? when i was 9 years old, i created a company called aardvark enterprises because it started with an a. and i went to summer camp and we charged the counselors, the dollar to shoulder, massages and $0.50 for cold cans. a coke that i bought at the time for $0.10, and i made $300.00 my 1st summer when i was 9 years old. so i've always been in business dennis my whole life, my family was very entrepreneurial when i grew up my grandfather and actually invented direct mail. so i have a rich history of entrepreneurs around me, so i've been at it my whole life. i love it. all right, before i get to the question about direct mail, it's 2 ways. the beginning

a bard bark and nowadays you cinder kid away to camp, you're afraid to counselor, but given him a shoulder up anyway, what do you mean your family inventive direct? what do you, ron pope, peals kid. what is this? no, actually my my grandfather and the early twenty's had when he was 16 years old, had a printing press. and he print the flyers for stores in brooklyn. and he got the idea to go to newspaper stands and put his flyers in the newspapers early in the morning at 345 in the morning. so he was inserting the flyers for the stores all over brooklyn. and an ad agency called new era, hired him, bought out his company and created the 1st direct marketing division in the history of advertising. and it evolved into direct mail and such. and that was my grandfather. he actually remember the old volvo commercials. 70 percent of all owners are college educated. the other smart,

that was my grandfather. that was my grandfather. what obviously led down through the lineage because i see your i see your fingerprints and footprints all over the beginning of nfl sunday ticket. tell me about that, john. well, that's a great story dennis. so i was operating sports bars and one operator in the year and a company called com sack which had to manage all the satellites and space had all the pay per view systems for movies and all of that called me up and said, john, we want a license and an f n l signal for out of market sports program. this is a 95. we want to hire your company to do an industry assessment. tell us how big the market is, what bars can afford to pay and tell us if it's feasible. so we did, we did a real caught feasibility study on what bars would pay and what an f l programming could bring in and revenue. they then came back to us and said, wow, this is really cool. do another report and tell us what the programming would look

like. and originally, dennis, if you were in new york, you could buy, let's say, the dallas cowboys signal, and the local coaches show that was it. you would just be able to buy that one game from the different cities that were available. so as we're designing a product, something happened called compression. where you could receive multiple signals on one transponder, one dish. that's when we are able to move it up to 7 or 8 games. so we design a product, then combat comes to the 3rd time and says, give us a list of all the companies that would buy it. so we do that. com said takes my 3 studies, the feasibility, the product than the market goes to the nfl to license it. and it says, this is great. let's do it ourselves. put me on a board the nfl enterprises. and it turned into sunday ticket. boy, johnny, i'd say right place right time. but man, just the fact that you are already flipped over the 1st space, dirt like that one city, one signal,

one house purchase you are so position that day they announced compression, you must the set off. so my guy lombardo music, going to couple motion dom bottles are cracked open. right? and you're right to starz a line then. and then it turned in to sunday ticket as we know it. and then we did marketing, flicks and manuals for all the bars. but you remember when we introduced that it was only available commercial, you couldn't get it at home. so if you were in new york and you wanted to see the dallas scan, you had to go to a bar that had sunday ticket to see that game. 3 years later we opened it up residentially, which of course changed the whole product greatly cuz everybody added at home at that point. yeah, you wanted to see a dallas game in late sixties, early seventies and got them. we had to go down to the lone star cafe, where they had the big gala monster out on the mark p. we've been talking to john tab and johnny by the way. a lot of people got you said

a lot of people are making drinks at home, more involved drinks than they used to. you should tell one of your bar owners that i don't think they're going to be able to take a world class martini. so they should pitch them something called martini t. e n y just little one. martini. i think there's a that's a great, you know, years ago, one of my restaurants i used to. so i love that idea. years ago in my restaurants, i used to sell the world small. it's hot, budge, sunday it was like an a shot glass. where do ice cream little hot buds, cherry, and it was the world small was type but sunday and every time we put it down in front of people, they complained it was too small. those low up it drilled it as the world smoke was unbelievable. the customer is always right except of course, when they're wrong,

we have enjoyed our time with john tapper folks. happy go lucky, entrepreneur. tv personality, best selling author. and he is the creator, host and executive producer of bar rescue. you can see it on the paramount network . now he's an 8 of our su sundays 10 p. m. as they said on the paramount network, johnny, good to touch base with the brother were part down the road. take care about years . all right, doctors that are this done. it's where we're plus one. 0 i didn't when i was shot the wrong one. all just don't the rules. yes. to fill out the thing because the kid an engagement

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we're not going to the wall or up the kitchen table out them out. i gotta get my, don't get a get. she will put it on the shoulder to wait for the meeting. the brittany home like he's in this lamp, me body by little by now. and then because you guys mean my lot, man, why or why not what i mean since close mckenna works well, people don't like to use the word inconsistency. they like to say, oh it's, it's amazing. comprehensible, mysterious. i say it can't be quite right. and this is what direct

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