we are segregated america, my social class. most people don't want to convert by 1st name. if you're born in to a 4 family, you're born into a minority family. if you're born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your life, chances people die on average. 15 years old, you born into generational poverty. this is a fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family. me the hey folks. next up i was trying to add another voice, but it's not good for me. i'm going to long island boy coming up john jaffer, you know, johnny's those the bar rescue. i think it's one of the paramount network now. it's

been few places, but it's now 10 pm on sunday night, and they're in season, the 8. you know, the drill. john goes in, apply some tree to a place to play in a little sloppily running, get some back on their feet this year. he's out as a nice heartfelt thing. people then will absolutely flattened by the last year and some of these idiotic local government co restrictions will talk to john about mar rescues new season right after this on dennis miller plus one. hey folks. welcome to dennis miller. blood was this guy's guy, john, top or you know, and he's an entrepreneur, tv personality best selling author and his bus, known, of course as the, unless you're in that biz. i'm sure other people know i'm on an even deeper level, but you know, as the creator, host executive,

producer bar rescue on paramount network. i think that coming up on some crazy amount of episodes, maybe 200 that sticks in my head. well, as johnny you can see season 8 of bar su, sundays at 10 pm on. oh, look at him moving up town to the paramount network. and john, how are you doing great, dennis? good to talk to your buddy. brother is it approach and 200 up we just shot 200, which is you know, is it crazy milestone? i mean i put i do a pilot and go home dennis nonetheless, season free for 56. so it's feeling pretty good to get it to that level. i love the idea you had man way back when you can see some guys sit. a lot of people have a baffled chamber between them getting an inspiration and then realize and then there are other guys who just moved through it. you combined a couple shows in your head right and said, wow, i should do that with the with bars. tell me,

tell me about the birth of the idea. well, somebody i was giving a speech to convention and somebody comes up to me and says, you should be on tv. so i thought to myself, kitchen nightmares and mission impossible. i'll take the file out with the different agents. i'll drop the ones down each week that i'm going to do and i'll have different experts if you will, each week. and i, i went to a friend of mine who ran tv for paramount because i had been a consultant to them over the years in written restaurant business. he says to me, john, to get it. you will never be on television. you're too old, you're not good looking enough. it's never going to happen. so i'm driving through the paramount gates. after that meeting i said to hell with that, i shot my own fizzle real. it was originally called on the rocks, sent it to 4 studios. dennis got 4 out of 4 offers. it was on tv less than a year later, and i set my buddy a dozen black roses. unbelievable. and believe me, just going back. i could tell you are 66 that i'm 67 cut to peter graves throw and

greg morris, peter lupus, barbara bay, marty land, dallas roland, have with the great while. oh, shift fred, south track you could tell we grew up on the same ship. oh we march, i remember that we states our world leaders and stuff. i love that very cool. john . when did you, you have such a track record in it, and at some point you must have just thought, well, i got to get in this business, did you jump in as an owner? did you jump in as a consult? tell me about where you went from bar tendon and working doors and stuff. you know, i wound up believe it or not, a grossinger is in the catskill mountains. and so i became a hotel guy, and then i started my own company back in 1986. dennis is a consulting company and we did many, many bars around the world even in places like hong kong, bangkok. so we became very,

very well known bar and nightclub consultants and developers. and we bill properties for hired international companies like that. and then in 1989, i started owning my own operations. and you know, that was, i got it up to 17 different bars and 17 different size. had the hollywood palace for a while, and hollywood, and a bunch of others and just got good at it. you know, john, i know i've known a few people over the years who bought a place. i have one friend who buys a lot of restaurants and not him. i don't want to say him because he's very good about his clientele. but most of the guy, as i knew who owned bars a little further, dad told me that same plea leakage was not was not made up. there was a lot going at the door if they didn't have their systems type, right. oh completely. you have partners dennis, that you were aware of it pretty well. but yes,

you know, i'll tell you a funny story. last week's bar rescue episode was depend, demik is going on, and the owner lost his house 3 months before i got there. but he's still running his credit cards up to pay all of his employees. so he pays them for months during the pandemic, while the place is closed. now he gets to open a 25 percent capacity. the employees all come back. i come in do an audit, and they're robbing them blind after. how's a well tell you about. i like the approach that you're taking this year and you can tell the people more bought it was a show we're talking about obviously, you know, john folks baretski is now on the paramount network. and john's always gone in and was like the guy, the guy who said it cooked for the queen and didn't occasionally go in and find the places just got the bad color scheme, the bad seating. it's not clean,

they're not doing a tight, but i liked the shift you made this year because there are people absolutely laid low by this overly efficient. yeah, i'll said the government, local guys were just running them into the ground. so tell me about the tweak in the approach this year job. what are you looking for on the show? you know, dennis, what you said was so powerful to me, because the pandemic didn't cause their failure. the government shut down, caused their failure. and you know, i think that there should be a separation and we take a look at what is the cause of this. but you know, these are owners that risk their life put their life savings up, open these businesses and government shut them down. so as an end result, they didn't fail because of themselves. they failed because of this environment that they've been placed in. and then mac driven government buttoned up if you will . so it's a different kind of an episode, but you know, they're still responsible in some ways. then if there were still restaurants that did better during the pandemic than others with to go programs and they were nimble

and they shifted. there were some that held more money back and they were smarter about their money. there were some that remodeled in some that didn't. so there's so fault upon them in some cases. but this is a very different season. you know, there was another one coming up in a few weeks. they washed their house 3 days before we got there. and 4 children under 10 years older. sleeping on a wooden floor upstairs. dennis and, you know, everybody's talked about how the industry has been impacted by the pandemic. this season, a bar rescue shows how individuals the owners, the employees have been affected. employees are carpooling because they lost their cars. they've lost their homes, are sleeping, and living in each other's homes. it's a nightmare. and you know what, john? lot, everybody in that business is nimble. what and immediately training are not everybody's danny meyer. what about the mom and pops place? the makes the best open faced turkey sandwich with chunky mash in the neighborhood . and i go in there all the time. all of

a sudden i met at the door like it's the drama strain and i can't get in. i don't expect everybody in the restaurant business to be peer and met marie curie. some of them are just good mom and pop restaurants and they rolled these people and i am new literate about it as i assume you are. oh and even more, in some cases, dennis, their 3rd generation owners of my empire restaurant that you know, it's been around for 70 years. sinus in milwaukee comes. the plaza bar in new york is closed after being open 120 years and it's close. so you're right, i am aggravated about it and you know, families have been devastated by this. but you know, some of these bars dennis are part of the community. they're important parts of their community. so the community suffer to when this happens. well we're talking to our friend john topper and the show of course you know, bar rescues sundays 10 pm on the paramount network. and it seems to me that even if

they run something you can pick it up somewhere on the backsides streaming repeated . you know this stuff side 3, just got a for a little for you know, something i series. somebody asked me the other day and i'm going to ask john about it after the break. they said, what do you think the, the unintended consequence of this, i hearken back to him, burns brilliant documentary, the prohibition. i have a feeling if they quit, keep screwing with this mass stuff. we might hear the word speak easy cropping up a lot more than we used to talk to. john tapper bought it right up to this. dennis miller plus one. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have crazy foundation. let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical of time. time to sit down and talk

me an entire village in alaska has had to move. if another country threaten to wipe out an american, we do everything in our part a project in water escaping climate change poses the same threat right now. alaska has seen some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world. we lost about 35 feet 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring it is. and that means the river is 35 pounds, then learning was yours, or i think we're a part of america. there's for me or america the mechanics work so well.

people don't like to use the word inconsistent. they like to say, oh it's, it's amazing in comprehensible mysterious when i say it can't be quite right. and this is what direct says, this is what i was reading. i folks welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we're talking to long neck, long islands. great. a very good, great. next law guy island. great guy always thought audrey hepburn was born there . great neck, long island spine, as john her and john, if they listen, i've already heard rumors, and this is we were talking earlier, but government overreach in my book. now they've let people open the door cause i kept a society and i have a feeling that there are contrary ends and there, it's almost perverse to me that we're going to try to roll back the sidewalks when

it does move inside. as soon as they can, instead of letting the people who were just off the you know, off the clock for a year, use both of them for a while to get flesh again before they start easing back on the sidewalk. stuff. i have a feeling that if they keep pushing this stuff, a lot of people like during prohibition or go to go to some sort of civil disobedience in the form of a speak easy or i, you know, i just won't do it. what are your thoughts so by being over dramatic? no, i don't think you are dennis, cuz in some cases people are fighting for their lives. remember the bar owner and staten island who they shut down and he went crazy against the governor. so we've had some of these people rise over the past few months, but no, i think these are people's livelihoods, and i think they're backed up against the wall and i think they have no choice really. on the other hand, if i can be really positive for a moment, think about this, dennis. we're going to lose about 38 percent of our independent bars and restaurants across the country. when this is over 38 percent, that's

a big number. think of the families devastated by that, but we're seeing in las vegas now. for example, the strip is full. we were busy this weekend all california license plates, but we were busy this weekend, so i see the marketplace this summer coming back in droves. let's say 80 to 90 percent of the market comes back, but we have 38 percent less capacity in restaurants. so if 90 or 80 percent of the market comes back and we have 38 percent less capacity, that's boom town. so i see great opportunity for the restaurants that can survive math. we have additional taxes coming down the road and god knows regulatory actions and things that are going to happen these next few months. and i'm guessing you're right, they're going to roll up some of the sidewalk elements and such. but at the end of the day, the restaurants that make it to july and august. i think we have a great opportunity next year. well listen, if it does come back with a vengeance,

i hope people exact that vengeance on the next election day. folks, you have to look around you locally and you have to clock who the guy was who stepped in the leg, some junior league potentate and started telling you that he wasn't going to let you into an outdoor restaurant unless, unless he deemed that that was going to be the case. meanwhile, she turns out footage, like newsome in the french laundry has gone to the private restaurant. it's unbelievable what they've done there. i know there was a virus, i'm not an idiot, but the way they played it the way they went after contractors like manicurist, trainers, waiters, waitresses, bar tendons where they have on common free agents. not really vested in the heard people who want to make their living and be left alone. just remember that they were squelched over the course of this it's, it's the most vivid t card that you can read. we're talking to john tapper once again. it's done

a little know, and i'm with you buddy. but you know, it also should illustrate to people the power of local government and how, you know, sometimes we don't pay as much attention to local government. we focus on national campaigns. but it was a local government in very many cases that made these choices. welcome school districts, local chapters of unions, etc, that made these decisions. so i think we need to take look at politics from locality as well as national real hard this next cycle. exactly. john, tell me about campers cover franchise. i'll just be honest. some tab lawrence on this. i see it in the notes. i'm not here to it. i see was hatch during the covert . tell me barbara. so it's actually a cool story that is about 2 and a half years ago, unemployment was so low that the restaurant industry couldn't find the employees. so i said, the casual dining restaurant model doesn't work. could i create a kitchen that has 60 percent less employees using robotics and computers?

could i create the kitchen to the future? so i worked in test kitchens for 2 and a half years, working with sue be cooking techniques and computerized combi ovens. we call them that you steam and infrared and why even convection, all at the same time, and i develop this kitchen of the future whammo cobit hits. so we created a franchise model. we saw 22 franchises as cove it is developing. once coded hit, we realized, wow, we have the safest kitchen in the world. there's no counter space. there's no traditional stoves, there's no grease, there's no prep areas. so we started franchising tappers tavern. now we have our 1st one in georgia. we're opening and washington in boston, and it's the kitchen of the future. it's really cool, very, very automated. so it's really consistent, dennis, everything is so computerized. that product is really consistent. labor burden is

much lower and we're doing really well it's, it's what happens when you tear up the book and start from scratch and we did that with tappers tavern. you know what i mean when i even hear tavern? i think gleason, with the rolled up sleeves and the robin, the bar, frank fontaine cruise. i hope that in these bars of the future, john, part of a tavern field to me is the man of the of it all does it? does it were you if we turn this to, to blood let's your thoughts? it's interesting to say that because our slogan for the company is a bar is a bar, but a tavern has soul. and you're right, you know, a tavern is part of the community. there's a famous british philosopher who called the bar, i forget the name of the pool as for the coveted 3rd place. then as she got home, you got work and then you got that 3rd place that we go to. that's an important part of our life than our traffic. so these bars are important and you're right,

you take the people out, there is no soul. so, you know, we've, we've created tappers tavern to exploit interaction ceiling height i levels, everybody's eyes are within an inches of each other to cause interaction the flow patterns cause interaction. all of these things are designed to create that human dynamic that we talk about. you can make a scotch and soda home then if you don't need me for that, you can program your music program, your satellite system. the one thing that i have that you can do at home is that whole humanity, that whole interaction element. and that's the core of our business, and i own the term reaction management. and i've always felt that i'm not in a restaurant business. i feel that you're not in the pod cast business right now. you're in the reaction business. you're achieving it through your podcast. but at the end of the day, if you don't create reactions from the pod cast to podcast as meaningless. so i would suggest that you and i were both in the business of reactions. and he or she

who creates the greatest reactions wins. and you're right that sold that humanity drives all of that. now i'll be honest with you, john. i find the world so screwed up right now. i make a scotch and soda is by porn. 2 bottles done. mike and gullet like some alcoholic. try to be smile and i think that in the future you know what if p honest to god i was never even been here. nora my now but i work old and mad around 5 o'clock each day i was never nic. and nora charles with the med thing i do get to, i almost feel like this has been good for a whole call because you definitely i need, i think need the wind. i'm a little dusk. i think it's true. you know, it's interesting all these mix ologist around the country. did these on line happy hours and drink training programs and stuff. and everybody's consumption at home is

gone way up. i own a mixer, why no cocktail mixers and a seltzer wine of alcohol accelerators. and we've done really, really well, because people are drinking at home, but they're making sophisticated cocktails at home and they're having some fun with it. and as you're right, i think we sort of need it now. you know, i'm trying to, did you have a lemonade stand that branch down to a palm granite. then when you are a kid, you can see the entrepreneurial thing. and here you have taste, taken a pretty basic american birthright, which is to go somewhere and have a cocktail. the immigrants saw that it and you seem to be smart enough to dwell in the ether. you can see the brand shots, the op shoots. when did you 1st get a hit to the fact that your mind would see suddenly and think what's, what's the tweak? what's the up sale on that? when i was 9 years old, i created a company called aardvark enterprises because it started with an a. and i went to summer camp and we charged the counselors to dollar to shoulder massages and $0.50

for cold cans. a coke that i bought at the time for $0.10, and i made $300.00 my 1st summer when i was 9 years old. so i've always been in business dennis my whole life, my family was very entrepreneurial when i grew up my grandfather and actually invented direct mail. so i have a rich history of entrepreneurs around me, so i've been at it my whole life. i love it. all right, before i get to the question about direct mail, it's 2 ways at the beginning a bard bark and nowadays you send her kid away to camp. you're afraid, the counselor, but given him a shoulder up. anyway, what do you mean your family inventive direct? what do you run? pope peals kid. what is this? no, actually my my grandfather in the early twenty's had when he was 16 years old, had a printing press. and he printed flyers for stores in brooklyn. and he got the idea to go to newspaper stands and put his flyers in the newspapers early in the morning

at 345 in the morning. so he was inserting the flyers for the stores all over brooklyn. and an ad agency called new era, hired him, bought out his company and created the 1st direct marketing division in the history of advertising, and it evolved into direct mail and such. and that was my grandfather. he actually remember the old volvo commercials. 70 percent of volvo, owners are college educated. the other smart that was my grandfather. that was my grandfather was obviously bled down through the lineage. because i see your i see your fingerprints and footprints all over the beginning of nfl sunday ticket . tell me about that, john. well, that's a great story that us. so i was operating sports bars and one operator in the year and a company called com sat which had to manage all the satellites and space had all the pay per view systems for movies and all of that called me up and said, john,

we want a license and an offense l signal for out of market sports program. this is a 95. we want to hire your company to do an industry assessment. tell us how big the market is, what bars can afford to pay and tell us if it's feasible. so we did, we did a real caught feasibility study on what bars would pay and what an f l programming could bring in and revenue. they then came back to us and said, wow, this is really cool. do another report and tell us what the programming would look like. and originally, dennis, if you were in new york, you could buy, let's say, the dallas cowboys signal, and the local coaches show that was it. you would just be able to buy that one game from the different cities that were available. so as we're designing the products, something happened called compression, where you could receive multiple signals on one transponder, one dish. that's when we are able to move it up to 7 or 8 games. so we design a product, then combat comes to a 3rd time and says, give us

a list of all the companies that would buy it. so we do that. com said takes my 3 studies, the feasibility, the product than the market goes to the nfl to license it. and it says, this is great. let's do it ourselves. put me on a board the nfl enterprises. and it turned into sunday ticket. boy, johnny, i believe, right? place drive time, but man just the fact that you are already flipped over the 1st faded dirge like that one city, one signal, one house purchase. you are. so position the day they announced compression, you must the set off. so my guy lombardo music, got a couple motion. don bottles are cracked open, right? and you're right to starz a line then. and then it turned into sunday ticket as we know it. and then we did marketing, flicks and manuals for all the bars. but you remember when we introduced that it was only available commercial, you couldn't get it at home. so if you're in new york and you wanted to see the

dallas, can you had to go to a bar that had sunday ticket to see that game 3 years later we open that up residentially, which of course changed the whole product greatly, cuz everybody had it at home at that point. yeah. you wanted to see a dallas game in the late sixties, early seventies in golf and we had to go down to the lone star cafe where they had the big gala monster out on the mark p. we've been talking to john tapper and johnny by the way. a lot of people got you said a lot of people are making drinks at home, more involved drinks than they used to. you should tell one of your bar owners that i don't think they're going to be able to take a world class martini. so they should pitch them something called martini t. e n y. just the little one. sipped martini. i think there's a really that's a great, you know, years ago, one of my restaurants i used to so i love that idea. years ago in my restaurants, i used to sell the world small. it's hot, budge,

sunday. it was like an a shot glass. where do ice cream little hot buds, cherry? and it was the world small was type something every time we put it down in front of people, they complained it was too small. those low supp, spelled it is the world's luck was unbelievable. the customer is always right except this course when they're wrong. we've enjoyed our time with john tapper folks. happy go lucky, entrepreneur. tv personality, best selling author. and he is the creator, host, and executive producer, a bar rescue can see it on the paramount network. now she's an 8 of our su sundays 10 p. m. as i said on the paramount network, johnny, good to touch base with the brother were parked on the road. take about 2 years. all right, josh, this is dennis where were plus one the

the, the, the the, i don't know, i mean there's some steps in there were rescuing the food that they were not scabbing or were rescuing resources that are still good. this is best by march 21st, which is in 2 days. all these potatoes, panels, onions, all of these came from waste ground sources. this is great for me because i'm always looking for a way to give things away. dr. because the tax laws,

you know, definitely do benefit the wealthier people in our society. so that makes sense for them to throw it out right off, rather than give it to somebody who could use it. and then that person is not going to buy it. the we are segregated all along my social class. most people don't want to poverty by 1st. if you're born in 2 of 4 family, you're born into a minority family. if you're born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your lives, chances people die on average. 15 years old, you're born into generational poverty. it's a, it's a fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family. me.

the, the rushes high level economic for him in st. petersburg. it's helped europe with president. the nice thing, the countries pushing ahead with infrastructure for seen tourism industry, we are just covering our own needs. we can also provide foreign citizens with the chance to come to russia and get vaccinated here. i would like to ask the government to analyze all aspects of this issue. by the end of the month. there is consensus out the event that widespread vaccination is the only way to get the world economy back on its feet with austria as chancellor showing his support for supporting the part of the global recovery sort of came. it doesn't matter where back same comes from from russ.