the top stories is ours. the international economic forum in st. petersburg comes to an end case because have included platinum it pigs in who announced plans to develop a vaccine tourism industry. when you break up, we are just covering our own needs. we can also provide foreign citizens with the child to come to russia and get vaccinated here. i would like to ask the government to analyze all aspects of this issues by the end of the month or so to come. 13 people go on trial in france, the cyber stalking and death threat against teenager. so it is raising debate about freedom, the speech in the country. and arriving brewing between the game, france about the number of illegal migrants attempting to cross the channel into britain with the u. k. calling for silent, seeking to be sent back. ah,

hello, good evening, watching asi international. now the top level, international economic form in the russian city of st. petersburg has come to an end this saturday. taking to the stage was president putin who gave his views on domestic and global issues and taking his through the highlights his in the per trunk. here in the rushing northern capital at the st. petersburg, international economic form, the biggest international offline business gathering since the peak of the pandemic . for the 1st time, we heard the russian president talk about what he expects of his upcoming summit with joe biden. they're meeting as president for the 1st time you get the machine, we plan to discuss the relations and we need to find ways to regulate them because they are a very low point. at the moment we will be talking about strategic stability, regulating conflicts in the world. hotspots disarmament that pandemic and the

environment. it will soon be exactly one year since washes 1st vaccines put an agree was registered for use in this country. and the experience in the use of vaccines has allowed watermark to talk about what he called impressive success by russia. scientists not a single loss of life as a result of the use of any of the, for vaccines made in russia metric that on that you did in russia, as you know, makes its own contribution to the fight against corona virus. we have, for vaccines developed domestically and the accomplishments of our scientists have got wide recognition across the world. sputnik v has already been registered in 66 countries homes, more than 3200000000 people. i would like to highlight that we haven't just used all unique technologies, not just created capabilities for manufacturing vaccines in russia. we're also helping other countries to develop their own production capacity streaming.

something else we found out from president pope. if you are not a citizen of russia, and for some reason, you don't have access to vaccines in your country soon you will be able to come to russia and get vaccinated if you pay money. of course, lot of our port and pretty much gave the green light to vaccine tourism. so to say, when you do, we are just covering our own needs. there's a widespread practice of people from other countries coming specifically to russia to get the job against current virus. in this regard, i would like to off the government to analyze all aspects of this issue by the end of the month in compliance. of course, with those safety measures and sanitary requirements to organize the conditions for phone citizens to get a chance to have the vaccine on the commercial basis. then another leader who took part in that discussion was austrian chancellor, sebastian kurtz. he thanked latimer, potent for russia's efforts in fighting the global covert pandemic,

and also for the proposals that he has been making for the export and production of the japs. mister kurtz also said that he regrets the fact that the european medical agency has been too slow and approving. the use of these putting jap just came in. it doesn't matter where of axiom comes from, from russia, from the us or from china. every bit of success in the fight against corona virus is a shared success of the entire world for the good of all people. and therefore, your politics should not stand in the ways of those developments the nor stream to pipeline project intended for direct natural gas deliveries from russia to germany and other european partners has many enemies, the u. s. in particular, however, as we found out from chancellor kurtz, austria isn't one of them. in fact, vienna is highly in favor of the projects that will give your opinions cheaper gas . now, one of the biggest headlines that came out of the form was lot of pollutants announcement

that the 1st string of the pipeline has been fully completed. just as the st. petersburg form was in full swing. you knew, forgive us, of germany's green policy is in favor of taking american liquified guess. but if they are really green, they should know that 70 percent of us gas is produced by hydraulic fracturing. motive not for the environment and the conclusions are as follows. st. musson gas is more environmentally friendly, cleaner, cheaper, more reliable partners have made a choice to the new chain to project. question need also said that the claim that russia is ignoring the global efforts to fight climate change is an absolute myth and invite an international investors and business to take part in the new green projects that are being launched in russia and france. 13 paper on trial for legislative cyber stalking and making death threats to a french teen who insulted islam. now in this miller,

she unleashed the wave of hatred on social media in january of last year in spot debate to about the right to offend people's religious beliefs, reporting from paris, his charlotte davinsky. when teachers, samuel patty was headed last year by at your hardest a friendship school girl already him from with me known for her controversial comments on line. i didn't feel the fire me see the latest of her and see is make runs. once again, found herself at the center of phone line to be on sex threats. she received more than 100000 faithful messages and death threats. promising to have her trust up, cut up, quarter beheaded with images of coffins for dr. pictures of her decapitation. some months before patty's brutal killing me had been just an ordinary 16 year old girl for electrical social media with posts about her life and putting on makeup. it was

during one of these live streams that she told you is that she was a lesbian. and that black and arabs were not her type in so were held her and the response she said the koran is a religion of hatred, there is only hatred in it. thought anti islam post then sparked an onslaught of online abuse, including death threats with her personal information, including where she went to school being posted online, neela was forced to change schools and needed police protection video schools, an outcry hearing from from the hash tags you 3 me la legal, but she was wanting to see what she said, and at least it was as well as the office 3 from miller along by the way, my le expressed regret about the form of a statement explaining that her criticism was not related to people,

but to ideology, the impact of her post revives and debate arrival, freedom of speech, and the right to offend people's religious believe. even president mccord wade in the law is clear. we have the right to bless fim to criticize to caricature or religions. neela who is that storm, she's been described by some of being a champion of free speech, is a problem. this is simply the relationship between the lashley, secular, french and the muslims. so do let me do that to them for legion duty to legions. changing things on, that's what i see speech as well. and she's not a person of those say her videos will. they didn't, with his lam, a phoebe and hatred and she should be subject to prosecution groups that

i find important to understand the muslim do not exert pressure to prevent certain people from speaking about their religion. freedom should certainly take precedence, but it is important to show respect and you shouldn't fuel for the fire. if you understand your words, heard someone can miss shouldn't happen when you an investigation was opened into me live comments, but was willing to drop as she would seem to have been expressing a personal opinion on religion, which is not a game or hearing froze. she told us hate on line, must be confronted and exposed to an image. she does not exist. it's about birth, teenagers, and adults. if you commit to crime on the internet, you would be searched for, you would be found and you would have to stand trial. that's why we're here. it's time to understand and say that fear has shifted to the other side. the more people who talk about it, the stronger will, will be if we keep quiet and put up with it, it will only get worse and worse. much more with me,

but i can believe that representatives of our education system say they can defend her. she was expelled from school while those who promised to be her if she returned or not so directed to any punishment. i also can't accept the fact that they didn't find another school for her, and the military didn't find a way to protect her. and she had to stay at home. she could now leave a year and a half as herman and enter the conscious history as the 1st young girl, and to be protected by the police 24 hours a day with imagine her life. she can no longer walk quietly on the street. she will not be able to enter an internship. an old doors are close for her feet. this trial of 13 defendants accused of threatening the teenager and harassing her is likely to once again open the old rooms. that's france continued to grapple with issues over freedom of speech, as well as his, i'm afraid to be a. so let's even sky all t paris. now,

dispute is brewing between the came france and the rising number of illegal migrants attempting to cross the channel into britain with london. lawmakers even demanding that paris takes the asylum, seek his back with more than the story, his e surrounding a stand off between the u. k, in front of the legal migrants making changes for things across the channel and take him another son. he signed a rules being introduced by the u. k. home secretary, pretty hotel. receiving criticism of making it almost impossible for refugees to come here. legally urgent action must be taken to stop these crossings. that means taking the criminal gangs at source, doing more to stop the small boats leaving france in the 1st place. turning them round the channel and swiftly returning people who have entered the country through illegal root of entry. thus far, this year, more than $4000.00 people have already made the title. this journey through england across the channel of more than 850 coming in during the past week alone. the government now faces the question of wes, how's these micros?

while the claims process this week, a high court ruling found the barracks which the government was using to house immigrants with norful, describing the conditions there, a squalid, brooding could even see damage claims brought against itself. i do not accept the accommodation there. ensure the standard of waving, which was adequate for the health of the claimants in so far as the defendant consider that a commendation was adequate for their needs. that view was irrational. margaret charity say that the home secretary is exacerbating the situation by giving people escape who and oppression no options to come to the u. k. legally. thus driving them into the welcoming arms of people smuggling gangs. if pretty patel was serious about protecting vulnerable people from dangerous journeys and exploitative traffickers, she would create a wide range of safe legal routes for people to travel to the u. k. patel is simply not capable of designing a system that attacks vulnerable people. these proposals or an attack on the

principles enshrined and the refugee convention, hey, must be created. she's not humane or compassionate, and it's not something that we would like to stand behind. and in addition, today, i must approach was not solving the problem. it's not making things faster for anybody. they say they want to stop the people's muslims, the way to stop the people's nicholas would be to give the refugees the same way of coming here. that the people of our business that would give people more passionate way to claim silence. not only policies that back on living, not compassionate or fat, asking to be there because they're not achieving anything. the government is also facing a rebellion from puerto and custom staff who say they're overworked and are relying on volunteers to help carry out co testing on migrants being processed at the tug haven facility in dover. acclaim. the government strenuously denies covey test in a tug haven is completed by contractors and not volunteers. we have never used to

volunteers. every migrant arrival is tested for covey, prior to entering their accommodation, where they are placed in isolation for 10 days. with no signs of the crisis of a thing, it's unclear whether the government's approach or trying to legislate the way out. going to bear any fruit fruit of itself on the home office. these are the london the us justice department has elevating ransomware probes to a similar priority is terrorism off through wave of cyber attacks, tripled strategic sectors. it's a specialized process to ensure we track all run some where cases, regardless of where it may be referred in this country. so you can make the connections between axes and work your way up to disrupt the whole chain. we've used this model around terrorism before, but never with ransomware, or ransomware and software that infects civic tim's computer until the bank is paid . the justice department is now set up a special task force. the century coordinator will cases which will also go after

crypto currency exchanges. and sites it deems to be suspicious. it does come to in the wake of a ransomware attack, holding america's biggest petro pipeline called colonial. the shut down d, cause fuel price hikes and shortfalls across the case. and the company bit paying nearly $5000000.00 to regain access, and us authorities playing the attack on cyber criminals operating from russia. so let's discuss all the consequences to this to meet tonight's time when we have with his former pentagon advice and mike maloof also in the middle. let us radia host carry harrison. and on the far right that internet law expert. yeah. cohen and you are all very welcome, michael. if i could start with you firstly, from your perspective, do you feel that this new far reaching task force is long over j? i think it's inevitable. the problem is, is that there's been

a huge spike in hack attacks that, that are not just affecting companies, but companies that have an impact on the critical infrastructure of this nation. and it's affecting millions upon millions of people just fail. the colonial pipeline was one exam, just one example. now, if that you, you, you transfer that to a grid, let's say the eastern grid of the united states with a similar electromagnetic attack, you effect 70 percent of the u. s. population as a consequence. so it was inevitable that this would be raised to the federal level, and i might add that the cyber attacks have been sporadic in the past, at least through public posts, through the publicity that has now begun to spike. and it's affecting very critical infrastructures. and we're hearing policy makers themselves from past and present

beginning to say that this is in effect, a declaration of war. and it is a form of hybrid warfare dependent upon who's doing it. and. and evidently it points to state actors and or cut outs for state actors. and this is something firstly that needs to be analyzed and traced just like they do with terrorist organizations around the world. michael, can you just briefly, i line then the powers the authorities will have over like to have in order to combat this problem powers. perhaps they don't have at the moment. i think it's going to take some legislation because what you're in effect doing because the united states is governed by private enterprise, private companies that, that have an impact on the public, on the public itself. there needs to be some consideration of how the federal government can alert companies that have such responsibilities

and then work with those companies to overcome such such things. the problem has been that we've been in a catch up. we've been doing a, a, a recovery every time and then trying to, to come back. as a consequence of the attack, we need to be in a more of a preventative approach. and i think, and i think with a cyber task force and what the cyber command that we have in the defense department, i think these, these, along with the national security agency, these elements need to come together and, and be more proactive that reactive. okay, well that's good. take sure that you've painted debit. carrie, i wanted to come to you because obviously this is bad news. clack is, but you know, what about the man on the street? do you feel there's an encroachment here on his privacy and perhaps just a 3rd the growth of big brother, something that we were all too familiar with over recent is what's your accent?

i'm guessing you come from the land of george orwell. and what a better way to lay it out if exactly you get. it also includes online market places, forums. what's a forum? i'm in a forum, you're in a, this is a forum. all of this could then be as a terrorist issue or a terrorist problem. and therefore, we follow the delicious penalties of terrorism. a scary word, we all know about rendering to foreign places and such the issue. we have time gap in australia, which can listen to as can national on all of the communications, or you can't even walk outside without that being able to count the hair follicles on your forehead. now, that's not inherently bad, it's if it becomes actionable. and the idea that we're using state actors, which state was that by the way yes, state actors you what is the big brother manual goldstein hiding under the queue

and on it just makes me a little nervous that it hasn't g y reach and not specific yet let's bring you in here, we protected by the law to prevent this sort of thing from happening until the reality that the recently between read them so hacking money laundering into every step of things. and what tripping drug and ransomware tag to some ways is terrorist activity means you're going to be giving powers to internal security organizations, which is equivalent to the power that they have in dealing with terry. so, so let's, let's, i got a couple of examples will be there will be able to make or is restrict being the movement of people that will be able to use corvette just

surveillance against individuals and against company bid. mom ever write to freak effect. a right to make all sorts of old is against people do might be suspected of, of, of, of, of being involved with being such thing. but more importantly, it might give access to private companies are set to their computers to their internal security management and policies. so, so you know, it could be quite serious in terms of the way organizations in any of the jobs are going to be affected. okay, well let send this but then to, to michael we've heard the concerns of carrying. yeah. michael, i know you looking at the big picture here, but you think people on the task force will give to you about the individuals privacy and the concerns we just heard from from example, from kerry. yeah, i think along with that, as i said, it's going to take legislation,

national legislation and given the impact that we all, every citizen individual has in living under a system under systems that affect our critical infrastructure. today. you can go to the bank, you can't have a flow of oil without your automatic control systems being affected by others and being targeted by hackers. i think along with that responsibility of trying to find the bad guys that there has to be effective oversight. and that has to be done by perhaps the congress that so at least in the united states, now it took a national effort at they, at the behest, at least in the united states, other federal government to deal with the corona virus. that wasn't an individual thing, but it took the resources of the united states government to come together with in cooperation with private industry to,

to manage that thing and be as effective as it has been for the united states. and right now the united states is probably better off than most other countries in the world and trying to eliminate cobra, 1900, as one example. but when your whole infrastructure is affected, your grid, especially your banking system, your oil and gas, your water, and food delivery system, if they're docked out and they can be targeted because everything is electronic today in the united states. and in most cases of the world, if you're still going to be using the vacuum tubes bend your ear exempt, or if you're out in the middle of a cow pasture, you're not going to be affected. it's not a good point. carrie mean, it's a price worth paying, isn't it? if you wake up tomorrow, there's no electricity. your toilet doesn't work. you can drink any water and it's like that. but see weeks when you be happy for this task force to protect g i'm not sure which body of congress right now is focused on protecting me and my rights. i'm not sure when in the last 20 years we've seen these

intellectual lloyd's floating around as statesmen, concern about my better. so i'm not convinced it's going to happen that way. i'm not convinced we're going to have the oversight. i am convinced fully and holy yes will happen and it will happen with a hammer and will be told, well, you can have safety or you can lose all your privileges and i have very few left right now. i think every side of the political spectrum could agree, i mean, give you a circles solution. what's your solution? well, my solution is not to have such wording as forums and marketplaces. i don't know which marketplaces are particularly and abusively. what forums that might be likely the forum that whoever's in charge doesn't want me to be in because it's not politically expedia. so let's nail down the language and then much determine if

such a forum is against the constitution as against the american way. why impedes your, my liberty? but we can't just say market places period forums period and then have this incredibly intense central response, which includes as we saw with the patriot act, things that we will never recover parts of our 4th amendment, parts of our ability to keep our papers electronic and they may be kept in private without government overreach, and yeah, well we have part. okay, well, let talking of coach. yeah. let's come tonight. there are legal impracticality to i can say with anything like this because for example, if you make it illegal to pay a ransom and you are a company. and if you don't pay the rents and quite clearly, you're going to go bust. surely, if you're better off paying the ransom, all you mean what legal recourse is there for a company that gets ramson wed? well, you don't, if you do, if you don't, of course, but, but,

but the real danger here. i mean, it is very tempting to say, hey, a truck to protect us from everything and use as much power as this is able to, to, to exercise. but then once you start extend being the type of crime that is covered by terrorism below, she's a slippery slope because if you think about it, why not extend to terrorism powers to street gangs? let stake areas where there is a high met the rate and say, hey, you know, we come across that and the reagan style, exercising terrorism legislation and laws in order to come. i mean, that's good enough causes that me. and before you realize it, suddenly, a power was the 2 main to be exercising, the very limited of case, and become you know, almost a whole fail of, of, of effect size of pounds. but i got the room danger. there is

a dangerous and michael just coming back to you, i'm curious to know how easy is it to prove that somebody's done something like this? because we know from edward snowden leaks, he's saying that you know, america quite easy. russia fingerprints all over this and blame them. mean how would we know, how would we see a clear smoking gun? well, this is a problem and we have seen where software has been developed that allows one country basically to take the blame for it. but i think these are things that we can overcome by proper oversight, but, and also protect the 4th amendment. and it was, it was, once the revelations were made, the intelligence community community took action and there was tremendous oversight . but i think it really depends upon the public safety. what is, what is good for the public safety at this point in, but in recognition of the 4th amendment, which is no, no unusual seizures or,

or searches in our, in our constitution. so it's, it's, it's a very delicate balancing act, and i think that these would be some of the issues that would have to rise to the top. and if, if any more critical infrastructures are attack that have a devastating impact on the society as a whole, you're going to see a national effort really begin to take hold and will be demand by people for something to happen. carrie, could you envision that? i mean, if, if a big attack does happen, so next way he imagine that the whole tone of the debate would change very quickly . well yes, i think politically, at what i think the regular people, if they are, as i was just advised, if i don't like it, go sit in a park not good enough for me. i also am in a forum right this minute with you. i'm in a form when i go to the grocery store,

i'm in the marketplace. this stuff has to go away this lingo because all it does is open it up to anything goes. and if the intent intent was so pure, so specific toward the bad actors, we wouldn't have language like forum said market places short money laundering. but i can decide in 2 minutes if you hand $5.00 the m and i didn't know about it and i was looking over a year. and so this is very problematic just in the language this right in front of us. so we're down, sit in the park at the same time and you know, i think it's also up to the company to, to bolster their own internal systems. rather than having the government decide to do it. and then the government gets full and clear access to 100 percent of everything. that's not a good idea. we haven't got long last but that. yeah, i mean, can you see, i'm not going to say a simple solution to this,

but can you see a li, legal solution that sort of, you know, i thought satisfies the state to make sure we don't get attacked by, you know, nasty actors. but it also protects the rights of us as individuals. it is, of course, i need to go situation and i'm always, always very weary about all sorts of partnerships between the state and private enterprises. i'm afraid there isn't any solution here. i have to admit the recent ok and michael, we started with us and media. just curious as a, as a sort of a world shouldn't we be working together to fight this sort of stuff. we always talk about countries coming together to fight terrorism. why can't they come together to fight this? well, i think it's probably going to take that now. i thought it was.