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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. i'm peter labelle, getting it wrong. still again, the growing acceptance of the china lab leak theory demonstrates the utter incompetence of the ruling leaves will be ever be held to account. also, the west often uses the issue of human rights as a political weapon. now it's being used against the west. i discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess marker, stop adopted in london, and he's a historian, analyst, and author of the new book arise, literacy and the return of russia to world politics. and in budapest we cross to george samuel when he is a podcast, or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube rumble and locals are gentlemen cross our rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. or let's go to george 1st in budapest, georgia, and i've been watching very carefully,

be the flipping of the narrative as we weren't here. where even a few weeks ago, even whispering online that there was a possible alternative explanation for the advent of the pandemic. you would have been just crazy, a conspiracy not case and to be avoided and to be shunned and probably band ok. now we see the narrative changing. now, no one on this program is going to make any definitive claims because we can't, we don't have the information, but there seems to be a trickle effect that, you know, the narrative that was established by the ruling elite is be, it's unraveling before our eyes. and will they be held account because weapons of mass destruction? nope, they got that one wrong. ok. and then explaining why there was a financial crisis in 2008 and who benefited? who last? then we have this entire told me that during the trump administration, where anything he said was a lie, ok,

they have scrambled. the public see are so badly. they are put egg on their face and there's no reason whatsoever to trust these people whatsoever. everything they touch, they get wrong, george. well, you summarize that perfectly. we say we have the weapons of mass destruction, claims disasters. war not only did no one's not for any consequences other than obviously the iraq is the dead and wounded american servicemen. but the people were elevated into procedures positions on tv shows that became pundits. they got nice, well paying gigs that think things that were celebrated. they got everything wrong, they were celebrate. and then of course, there was the russia date. you had the full year, the unremitting propaganda that the 2016 election was stolen by the russian

trump was working for food in. 1 the russians where everywhere again, no one piece of evidence has ever come with anybody. all the evidence that has come forward has refuted these slaves yet no one has suffered any consequences to the only ones who have been suffered. consequences whether people will unfairly personally use this for supposedly working for put in such as michael flynn. 1 or roger stone. so what do we have here? we were told that we stupid rooms don't understand science. this is, this is science pandemic. he's a global pandemic. leave it to bill gates, leave it to tony, fall cheese. they understand these things. you know, we don't know anything. now suddenly, at john's out that this virus was the product of scientists on the taking reckless research looks like this was research founded

by us taxpayers, scientists who didn't bother to make sure that proper safety protocols were in place. 1 because these were very dangerous experiments, worst of all sciences who deliberately misled up public because they knew a great deal. tony crouching you a great deal about this. and yet he misled the public. he went into one white house meeting after another, and never so much as gave a hint about gain of function research going on in the lab and the u. s. w. quite a lot about these gain of function research. boy, for any price, no, he's already find a nice book. do particularly in stock. your name is synonymous with gaylor function. ok. that is obviously been mis. mister, representing the public mark is one of the things you know, you know, we looked at, you know, i started out, would be the iraq war here. don't you find

a really remarkable the professional manager at different points and in time in places they are experts on weapons, they're experts on climate, they're experts on science, they're experts on russian ok. and this professional managerial class, they are so in tune with their own accreditation and their moral superiority over everyone else is that, you know, it ends up being just an accreditation class without any kind of stuff. and because everything they touch goes wrong with this demick, russia gave was, you know, lucian in people's mind, lockdown is real. when you lost your job, you lost your family, you lost your help, you lost your future. that is real and someone must be held accountable. and we know exactly well, i'm not going to sit here and act as a defense counsel for the chinese. government's will approach the matter as

a legitimate call of law with the likes of which cannot be found as for example, the height. so i expect, in fact, on demand credible concrete evidence from those american politicians and journalists who are claiming about china is responsible for what is known as cobra. 9 themes, not circumstantial evidence, nor he said concrete evidence which will clearly and fasick lee indict. the chinese government's boss. i'm surprised and leave. no such evidence has been for coming from those american politicians like hell. the americans out of course, the british made claims in the past which were never substantiated.

yes, bare is the claim and there was proved to be a lie that iraq has weapons of mass destruction. so the americans and the british allied bass. they live about the search committee, genocide, the cost of our talk. yeah. they lied about colonel gadhafi preparing to commit genocide in bang, darcy. so no evidence is ever actually put forward by these people. yes, on the one hand, they are not experts when it comes to weapons of mass destruction. they're not experts when it comes to an experts when it comes to the form. yugoslavia certainly not experts when it comes to medicine and science bots. the real question is, why are they allowed to act as they do? because they know when i say by, on refine so in this instance, american politicians, they know that american mainstream major will not hold them to account. why?

because american mainstream major is neither free nor independent. so that is why american politicians, i'm also equivalent in britain or even some make such outlandish claims. such grand claims about any massa they choose to because they know they will not be scrutinized. they know they will not have to corroborate their assertions with concrete evidence. so at the beginning, i said this matter should be approached as a court of law would approaches. and if you approach it as a proper course of law, would the case would be thrown out because there is no concrete evidence. the only evidence that american politicians and journalists are pressing forward is merely circumstantial. and here say that is not good enough. george, the, the problem for the professional managerial class here is that at the end of the

day, they don't have a problem blaming another country. we, we see that, you know, really rushes falls. it's around falls north korea as falls in the usual thing here . the problem is, is that the, there are so many high level officials, voucher and voucher like visuals that are just he hip deep in all of this and they don't know how to use separate. that's why they never went down there about oh, because from, from, from races and all that it's just the cover as much nonsense. okay. on the face of it, it's a stupid nonsense and they knew it. but if you look closely at an alternative theory, you're going to be looking at people, not just in beijing or on, you know, they will get a lot of people in washington. that's exactly right. i mean, i think what hasn't really been a major accusation against china. what happened in the united states was that when you pull the professional managerial class seized on the virus as

a way finally to get rid of trumpeting trumps, seem to be coasting towards reelection. suddenly they sold this as an opportunity that they could blame him. it's all his fault book of the virus. he didn't respond quickly enough, but strongly enough use responsible for the economic downturn. he's responsible for the anti chinese being being the as the asian racism he's responsible for that is a native is, is that a folk that wasn't really a major attempt to attack china? glory. i mean, it was when nancy pelosi says it's the trump virus. it's not the child that was, it's the trump virus. so i was just showing it is agree here with marcus. i mean the, the faces that he cited iraq cooperated with the international weapons inspectors. i mean, he said we're going to throw everything open even, but that wasn't good enough for an american lead that was determined on war. so anything happening yugoslavia miller throw open cost to all of the inspectors. the

o. s. the sent him the inspectors. they withdraw the inspectors in order to facilitate the bombing. china has refused to cooperate with the international inspector. so when they will help the organization put forward a plan to inspect the, the, the bar tricks china bulk and refused to do with any one other. then there man would just be the de sac. so obviously the report that the w h o came up with was ludicrous handed by someone who was an interested party. so i think this is a little bit different from the previous cases, but, but what is the same here as the market? this is there, there is no accountability. i mean, it's really quite remarkable in my, in my mind is how all of these pay people fail upward. you can be really wrong just about everything in your career, but you just get a better air condition office outside washington d. c. when they're very nice income,

given another mandate to screw up and then you just keep moving forward. nobody's ever held account. and all of these can be seen in this century alone. and it's because this is the professional literature boss protecting itself. it is a racket, go ahead. last answer goes the markets and the data that is a common pass and, and we have seen this in the last 30 years. and specifically, since the dissolution of the soviet union, when america was very aware that it had no competition any longer on the international stage, when they knew there was no counter balance. so american global design and best thought, american politicians and american journalists, and bolden to say what ever they wanted about any subject matter as they pleased. so one of the things that are any has in common is that the countries which are

focus, which are targeted by american politicians or american mainstream journalists just happens to be countries which pursue an independent foreign policy. we're going to discuss a little bit more about there and the next part of our program we're going to, i'm gonna jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that your break will continue our discussion on some real estate r t. ah, the ah,

me the summer solutions. that's where i would look at the problems and look at the solution. and today we've got the one and only marshall auerbach is the market analyst that levy institute researcher and tragic follower of the toronto police by maybe this is they are they want to stanley cup the one of the persian gulf wealthiest country as has spend billions of dollars on stadium of the art stadiums. well, look at this, the stadium is really taking shape. you can see the bowl and most of the stands now, when we were here a little bit over a year ago, at the same construction site, it was just a foundation and a few metal structures. so it seems that time why this idea to use shipping

containers this building blocks has definitely paid off. i mean, they're easy to assemble and easy to dismantle, just like playing with lego the, for the 1st time in world history, the stadium will be billed from shipping containers and was more, it will be completely dismantled after the tournament. me welcome at the cross stop where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real issues. ah, ah okay, just go back to budapest, georgia, change gears here. all 3 of us have a long enough memory to remember when the whole issue of human rights was injected

into foreign policy. we are usually associated with jimmy carter. jimmy carter's name is john mentioned all the time these days, i would say for many wrong reasons, but in this case it's true. jimmy carter very much highlighted in principle. i have no problem with it. if it's weaponized, then i do have a problem with it. we saw in the anchorage some in the past few months when the secretary of state was lectured by his chinese counterpart and much of what the chinese delegate had to say could have been taken from the play book of the democratic party throwing, throwing it right back in them here, and other countries are doing this as well. mean if you can look at what, how can a country like the u. k. talk about human rights when julian assigns is languishing in prison. how, how, how can a country like the united states holding hundreds of people without bail for the

crime of what loitering, because of the january 6 awry and here. i mean, it's very easy to weaponized and it's, and one can do it and everyone can do it. and i think that this is something that is a shock to the professional manager of classes. they only, we'll are allowed to talk about values, not any one else. topography ahead, george. that's exactly right. i mean, you remember during the cold war the west use of talk about human rights. we talk about, you know, political rights. and then the soviet union would talk, oh yeah. all right, well, we may not be great the political right, but we can all make a social right that you don't have. so you know, everyone, everyone has a job. everyone has a house. and so, you know, we care, but people go to the west dismissed that argument because more prosperous. but the so be going to say that, well, we do better at this than you do. but i mean, if you became of the west and a lot of fun with it in the days of that,

this is the so when you have say yes, get done. yeah. and then you had of course also yes. and the song already there's a lot of people are being prosecuted for what for their political views. i mean, they've done their committed no crime. and they were opposed to the government. and it was the west just had a lot of fun with that. and the soviet union really didn't have a very good onset of that. that has changed because now russia very good onset. i mean for instance, i mean we talked about this roman protection. now roman brother david was involved in instigating violence in off in the aftermath of the election in bella with instigating it while he was in poland with the direct evidence that he was instigating it. he was in the as a battalion, whatever he was doing that that is a violent organisation. now, you mentioned julian his lunch. no, there's no evidence that all that he was involved in. any kind of, you know, there's nothing at all violence g, you know,

publish information. and yet that's happening in the u. k. the very same u. k, but lectures, others about media freedom. and then of course, you have the case of the, the capital riots where people, hundreds of people have been arrested that charge, that some of them are in prison without bail. they're in solitary confinement for work full lawyer terrain for trespassing. and the prosecution just gets to postpone again and again bringing the cases to trial. why? because they want to use it for political ends as they move into an election year. so here you are clearly persecuting people for the app holiday. so there's no record of it. no, no evidence of any of these people commit to the violence that real crime is. he don't accept the legitimacy of the bi election victory. you can argue with that.

you can disagree with it, but that that's all they hold the wrong views and they are being punished for it. so, yeah, i mean, the tables have indeed been robust markers. what really makes this tragic is that we should think about human rights. ok. and that is a legitimate area of concern here, but if you politicize that you keep in it because then you're, you're just looking to score points. you don't care about the cause you care about as a scoring point against your opponent in the media. i mean, it's just more of a p r strategy than it is having a genuine concern for the some people's rights being violated. i mean, that's what i find that really, really sad about it is because it is in itself, it's a good idea. but the way it's being practice is an abomination, and people in the hope to be idea of human rights itself is just completely denigrated. go ahead markets. what we have over the last for 2 years. and

especially the last 20 years is the appropriation and distortion of was an concepts by liberals such as democracy, equality, racism, progressiveness diversity and of course human rights. now, the aforementioned was a concepts today in 2021 on a council town near liberals, especially in america and in britain have appropriated undistorted the maintenance of these so their own. deprived agendas means that these words and concepts have lost all meaning in the wells to date. so we say in america and also in britain neo liberal activists, example phone b woke baffled cooling for racism to be counted by taking the need in honor of

a hardened criminal who. but go into the apartments of a pregnant black woman. and then a threatened to kill the same woman by japanese gun stock. that is absolutely homesick, but it serves as another demonstration that race system as was racism and equality have lost all meaning. and if we turn to the american and british governments when it comes to, schumann writes, well, the americans and the british has never truly been committed to the concept of human rights of german, the cold war after the cold war. what i would argue the difference is that during the cold war, the mosque was more or less a chill on the faces of the americans. and the british bots, following the end of the cold war. and in particular, the dissolution of the u. s. off countries became complacent,

they became even more arrogant. and that is when the mask dropped, because they felt, as i said, moments ago, they could do as they please on the international stage because there was no counter balance. so to day human rights is actually a weapon that can be used against the americans. and british, the british for instance, make no secrets of back close strategic friendship and relationship with saudi arabia, which is one of the most abominable countries in the world. and the americans are still holding. prison isn't guantanamo who have not been charged with any offenses . so the americans and the british are in, in my opinion, quite in a precarious situation today, the lights of which they will not change during the cold war. so i have to leave my complacency to limit and we can that hold on the well, it's been, you know,

but george, you know, whenever you confront these people, they have one word for you, your races. i mean, not in my lifetime. i mean, you know, it, we've had times where, you know, when calling someone a socialist or something like that, oh my goodness. i mean we've gotten so far away from that now because they don't want to have a conversation. and then they end up using words like equity, like what the hell does that mean? ok, you don't agree with it. if you don't even understand it, you are a racist. i mean, this is out, but now the debate has become, become is, but now is saying that you stand per human rights and it comes from those people. ok, you know, you know, equity for all but you know, but if you don't believe that you're somehow a rube and retrograde and yeah, i mean, and then you can have a conversation because if you don't leave an equity that you're not even worth talking to, i mean, this is the, this is destroying any kind of logical discourse. go ahead. right?

that's exactly right. then the marcus makes an excellent point about this broad of black lives matter. and this mandatory taking of the knee is there somehow by doing so. you are opposing racism. no, you are actually celebrating an organization that is dedicated to war, racism, leave aside the fact that it's a multi $1000000.00 racket in which what corporations shut out. millions without even bothering to wonder where is the money going? you know, even on it's into reading a lot of money into much of any organization in the world, anywhere disposed other tens of millions of dollars and no one off. what do you actually spending this money on? yeah, so that's, that's absolutely the case. but what is really happening is that you're getting that us, you gave france and what you're being told still as if,

when you know this is still 975, and you lecture the world on human rights as we are exemplars of the respecting human right. where we're, where we're the with george, where we're the human rights for the best. exactly, i don't know exactly i, this is the point that the president boynton made at the st. petersburg can all be form that you attended your luck, the people who had a rubber bullets shot of them, they lost their eyes. can you imagine if we did anything of the sort? it was the other world would response and it was, i mean, racism is one response. oh, what about is and what about is a, well, it's not what about isn't, it's actually clearly indicated that she is actually the performance of the western countries is worse than i don't russia, russia actually treat it's prisoners more you mainly now than the western con. i

mean, the violence that he use against the people who protested against the locked down the violence against the yellow vest. and now this brutal imprisonment of the people who are involved on january 6, clearly the west wreck, or is it we don't even have to go into saudi arabia, the west, west and rushes. 30 seconds go to you, marcus. go ahead. well, i think it's a very depressing state of affairs and i think it's one that's not going to improve any time soon unless the ordinary person in america and in griffin, actually learns to say no, no to the one rabble who never answering so a conversation into a discussion because that risks losing an argument on the merits. so they just simply end any prospects of a discussion by a critic houston, your racist all being is phobic or be in a fight. so unless people in america,

britain say enough is enough. we are going to take back our societies, then this cancer will just become worse and dismay this to them. i don't talk to ok that valid. i don't know why gentlemen, that's all the time we want to take my guess in budapest and let him know what to thank you for watching us here. next time, remember the ah, ah ah, ah.

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