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of civil protest for decades tag. thanks so much for coming back. gone as you'd say, it's been a week where there's been bombing across syria linked to these very g 7 powers. obviously, following on from may's 11 day war against garza and jerusalem, you will take 1st of all on the g 7 meeting in england during a pandemic. i'm not totally sure why they want to meet. i mean, why do they want to be a magnet for huge protest? this is the f b r exercise to get their respective populations and citizens, ideologically prepared for what they're going to be doing economically. and which is extreme name, ultimate and what they're going to do, re china and russia. i think the key issue obviously is, i mean i didn't position to take now liberalism as we have mounted and to foreign
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money, whether it works on all we will see. but the fact that this is an initiative that was being taken by a president of marks, a shift within ruling circles in capitalism. and the 2nd question related to that, which they have to discuss, of course, is how long these huge corporations can get away without paying any taxes at all in the countries where they are aware, the invest and where they make money, whether they will come up with any satisfactory solutions as a matter of opinion, because in most cases, these logical operation, the new 1000000000 as fund quite a number of political parties, both in europe and the united states. so it's not easy to take them all. it will have to be behind the scenes, protracted negotiations to see how much these greedy chosen for bed to
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pick. well, so as a print money, as they arranged the printing of more and more and more money. as you say this, this very fundamental change in your liberal orthodoxy. there are reports again of refugees trying to cross the channel goes to england. and of course, biden's vice president has been in guatemala, telling the people of latin america do know what to come to the united states. a big mark changed to the tweets from bite and then come on a harris during the election campaigns. do you think they learn something from the european union? they can pay off to stop the refugees from? from nature nation wars it goes on uses. the question is the european union, as reno paid off, large amounts of money to prevent the refugees from the syrian which is now being prolonged and kept going by the west. it should be stressed, but they will not stay on the responsibilities on what they've never liked to do
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back in europe. i mean, i one say that directly, but top serious the, when you people decide to go to wall, you should allocate amongst yourselves, preferably popular company, refugees are going to come in at the end of these was, or during these was so if you all escalating and syria, you should say, germany, half a 1000000 burton, a quarter of a 1000000 cetera. so people are prepared saying this is what these countries are. countries are going to war, and this is the result. don't blame the refugees. blame those who create the refugees. so europe's position has always been marginally, was historically been bad of the united states, the americans when they leave the country where they've either failed or inflicted heavy damage and just and used to stay made. i'm thinking now korea and vietnam do
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take in refugees from these countries, but largely from a social layer of population that has collaborated with. they don't do it for every but they do it. the europeans tend to, to not to do even that as we see in family debates taking place. and in the united states. ho, this democratic regime to just carry on with trumps policies and mouth. so to red creek, which is either the same or my can even was thing, we just want to take, you mean, do you remember the brouhaha, the anger when prompted all this? how can he do this? now you have a government which on this front and on foreign policy is doing the same. so it's, it's on this level. i mean, come on,
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harris is the remarks to the south. americans pretty evolving, but they don't even have to alter or the yeah. who drove lots of different things at the same time, can be brutish enough to keep the refugees that put them up in the appalling conditions and keep taking the billions that the e u supplies. largely it has to be set for rights history. so, i mean, why can these refugees, which are created by, was being fought by the west not be allowed to come to the concrete way to the was mean they have a certain political and moral responsibility to do this. so if you don't want refugees, don't make was that's a lesson. they refused to think of, you know, where they're going to into the next a short bombing raid. they just carry on. they're doing it in syria. they're doing
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it in other parts of the middle east. a region now which is no, no peace since the 1st gulf or, and the sanctions imposed on iraq after it. there is a back story here. and that back story needs to be stressed all the time for the younger generation. these are not today's events. these are events which spring up from the past, and the past was filthy and ugly. and no one seems to have learned to me this. we invite the tag exam, bassinger on turkey denies racism, but your vision of the world that complete drugs with the nature nation media coverage of the g 7 as the g 7 lead is talk about a rules based international order and how the fight now is against china, obviously, bars, jones, ascending our aircraft carrier towards
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a chinese maritime borders. do you think? i mean, is a captive media that's covering the conference? the media in the west has been deteriorating and degenerate since the collapse of so let's face it. and it's obvious that while the soviet union existed, they put up, you know, the, one of the prior piece was to show how different we are so space on television. and in the mainstream newspapers was allocated to some dissenting voices as if to mock the russian and say, aha, you've gone to that we can. and this process is now read such a stage that the mainstream media actually is behaving more and more like the old prophet used to do when you know, in the fifty's. so even the 60, just effectively acting on behalf of the state and sometimes completely creativity
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. you can pick up more or less any paper, whether it's the right rig tabloid, or where there's liberal guardian, and on key issues. the line is virtually the same. i think some of our readers and listeners are punishing them for many other alternatives on television because of the development of technology. you can see news from on r t on 0. so on numerous i channel that exists of that monopoly as being broken, but obviously only for privilege people or people who can do or not everyone in the world as a computer or a telephone make. you can watch this bad monopoly has been broken. and that's a huge step forward, which is why they now want to control twitter and facebook as well. so many people
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putting up pictures from palestine or interviews, and i just told this breaches or whatever stand has they call it. is that what is that? what made this 11 day war in may different to previous was because they couldn't ignore the destruction in the mass killing of civilians and women and children. absolutely. they couldn't do it. and you know, these images, i mean, they've been punished just the euro by bombing their offices, 1st of all ages ago, then during the iraq war, especially after the gc, right, had no station said to them, these are all coordinates. please make sure you don't have grown attacks and rockets on this place that's. that's a lot of them. after they will give them the code meant the use them and bombed the edges 0 headquarters. and they were disgusting images made by
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a canadian documentary filmmaker who showed the entire western media hold up and cuts her seeing the fall of broke about with american soldiers cheering and doing this and that. and they stood up, gave it a standing ovation. the data is the level now of large chunks of the west. the media though action though one should say that the recent attacks on the images that have come out from that have created not a see change. i wouldn't use that phrase but have created a circle ship, both in public opinion, which is shocked. not you know that these things have been happening for years, but they shop now in ga us since 2008. if my memory's right non stop in the bathroom is exactly the same bombings, children dying buildings being knocked down,
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shock, horror disappears. never mentioned again, but in a small way this has been going on every day in some shape or form either in the occupied territories or in israel. it says, all in god. the fact that the new york times chose to publish on its front page the pictures of all the kids that died in gaza as something to 5 years ago. it was in israel says that there were anti and software in the associated press, al jazeera building, that was, that was blown up tag. we'll take a short break. there were himmel from legendary author an activist char, golly, out of this break the safety harbor. and last summer solutions every year we try to dig into the solutions and we've got
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a special guest today. jim counsellor of counsellor dot com the i think most likely is that we will find the equipment floating through space that was sent by an advisor to relate. the experience will be similar to walking on the beach. most of the time use the rocks or the shows that were produced naturally, but every now and then you encounter a plastic bottle and that gives you an important message even if it's not functional. he says that the realization is out there. ah ah, welcome back. as a g 7 summit continues in cornwall surrounded by police to keep the protest as it may. i'm still here with those were an activist colleagues. all media seems to not directly link it to the g 7 leaders. this is israel,
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this is evil that yahoo faces no covenant, vote tomorrow in israel. they don't link it necessarily to british america. you nation arm sales to israel. that's killing these children. why? sure. i mean, that's something which is inconceivable for west israel has been such a reliable relay, a west and imperialism since 194849 onwards. that if something they cannot consider is punishing it for what it is doing. and people sometimes say to me, but, you know, do you think this will, could ever and i could walk. and within 3 months, if the united states in particular and its allies imposed mimicry sanctions. and if necessary, economic sanctions on israel till it pulls out all its troops from the occupied areas to start off with and remove the settlements,
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they have to be removed. so i think that could be a demand, which in olden times some more grid sign is supported, but that's all gone now is through itself because the state run by these really far, right. and still they gave it so much leeway. so the war, the situation goes all the way to the next outrage. you know, the pattern will probably be the same. mean of the 1st in the $3.00, oh, $1.00 which lasted 3 years. forced these re lease to negotiate, but they picked and chose who they negotiated with the leadership in killing this not the leadership of the father in the occupied last. i'm in israel itself. and this is been
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a problem which we don't discuss often enough in my opinion. is that the collaboration of the palestinian authority and the leadership has been a disaster story. even recently, i was told as these horrific things were going on in july and jerusalem and garza and other parts of the country. the p l. o. leaders in a number of places were using security forces to dump and down demonstrations on the west back this, this beam that out. well, the p a obviously denies that says it's all part of the resistance, but certainly what you're saying is that good, arguably by hand on a try. we on, on this program in the 1st few days, i mean, what about descent? i mean, you, you talked about how descent was arguably allowed a little bit more room in the so called mainstream media before the fall of the berlin wall. now we hear evidence from the spy cops inquiry here in britain concerning you, how they spied on you. and the people around you,
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the demonstrators today, outside the g 7, do they have reason to be frightened of the authorities more frightened than even you were in the over many is fighting for civil rights. well, i mean, the admitted that they had 14 officers expired on me over 45 years. was like frightened not cruelly. and i'll tell you why, because there's very little i said in private on political issues that i didn't also say uplink. and they must have known that i said it on television. i said it on the radio. i said it meetings and i said, hope the private dinners, not a big secret, i think. and i'm seeing as i'm with you now. so it's not a question of being frightened, it's knowing they do it. but asking why do you do it mean what you need today. the situation is completely different,
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as we know when the counsellor p. i'm go survey lives by her own secret police with the backing of the c i or the cia with the backing of around secret police or the government when i know and if you remember not so long ago, we were told how often the stars he was in east germany was fine, non stop on the citizen, the west is doing exactly the same thing. actually, they're doing it on a level much, much higher than the stuff. every one can be spied all. so the people demonstrating should be why right of infiltrate as being sent into the ranks and unit building relationships, whatever sort that is really the only one and the
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fact that they can actually change anything by spying on people. i mean, i'll tell you the story. there was spies placed in 1917 by the crime bazaar and secret police and the leadership of the gm commentary party. one affected it, they actually made the revolution. and the funny thing is, the general running the crohn, i used to say it's very funny. the bolsheviks is to be put in the boat u x and the mon. com. and they're giving a description of similar situations and fighting with each other. just like make sure that i'm getting in fluids. the organization that does, but i mean, they were, you know, obviously that was a different situation. but what so different? i mean, what will they get out? a whole, these spying pick up people. i mean,
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they already have laws to lock people up for months without a b, as opposed to being a disgrace. and then the new anti protest bill coming, coming through, i think i'll be, will arguably maybe surprise that at least joe biden is talk about maybe something intellectual property rights for a little while on the covert vaccine. talking a little bit about saudi sales to saudi arabia for use on yemen. britain stands fast says we will continue selling the weapons to kill people in yemen. is there a sign that some of us allies are even more gung ho than joe biden and insecurity operators? it's true and they do it to show to show their loyalty to the concept of how the world is run and to say to the us, we have we in defending you better than you can do your sales,
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which is in this whole notion which i've hated you know, nonsensical notion that there is something called an international community. it's not, there is no international community. there's the united nations security council where a retail can stop anything back in the united states knows this is the international community. it goes and does what it wants every reg, as for forest johnson, sending an aircraft gallery and to china. it's patrick. it's to show loyalty. it's to show we are, we will be with you always. i mean, blair was even worse than johnson actually in sucking up to the americans and they are very nervous. now having left the you that the keep are in europe as far as the u. u. s. is concerned is not the truth be told it's germany. it's been
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that behind the scenes for some time smell is sort of even open. that is the country with which the us is really interested in maintaining a very close relationship. when they take for granted, jeremy of course, has over this russian nordstrom to deal at the moment. yeah, you see the problem with the german government has been there for some time, as long as us troops stationed in that concrete and think about it. the war ended in 1945, the west port and well known nazis and fascist and key positions in the army and intelligence services. 40 to 45 percent of the judiciary, the army. and so the top ross were not changed. same in japan, yet in both these countries, they still have military bases. and so both these got creeds, japan,
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more than germany, have no real sovereignty. the hatred of russia now is not related in particular to what may or may not do. it's related to the fact that the russian government has taken back its sovereignty. that gorbachev in his week when years thin in a completely craven way, had given up all the crops to we do what you want and got no concessions a toll apart from global ones on nato. nature will not extend its frontiers, etc, etc, which they have broken with impunity. so it was necessary for any government in russia to take back sovereignty. and as far as the chinese complained, who can doubt now in many ways, the sort of most important country in the world, the economically they're not going to be treated like they were before. so all
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this military threats and saber rattling and aircraft carriers is going to have knowing the chinese are the most important concrete. there was no, there are people in the united states who are thinking we, we couldn't russia a long time ago, decades ago by making a block with china. and we succeeded to a certain extent in doing that. perhaps we should do a deal with the russians to weaken china. they told they think in those terms that if we can get russia on side, we can then use them. i myself, am not sure that even if they try this seriously, it's going to work because people have a few lessons and you know, this is what has been going on of the last 5 or 6 years have affected different parts of the world. i mean, i will say this to you that it's very interesting that when both scenario 1st came
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to find brazil, the western media, including the financial times, will very pleased economically. it's not levels back radical, but they were please. now they are so horrified by what is doing to that country. and lulu was standing and opinion poll ratings are doing higher and higher that the german british ambassadors in brazil, you called on lula and said we want you to take whatever costs. and we are prepared to support you probably deny this. i know it's a fact as if lula doesn't know what's been going on. and we backed the google against him and against delma when the who back to the us the us. what is it just very briefly then? i mean all the g 70 is presume we are agreed that they want to overthrow the government of venezuela. still over the bar. as john's in hosted one way to hear
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africa, just a charity case, presumably talked about as go with vaccines and you said it's the stage. they seem to have lost it to the china. do you think something really significant is changing in that? in america? obviously we have these rumors of castillo and emperor. yeah, i think that, you know, contrary to what terminal is said, i never the thing tied was totally over. because the pink tied as it was cold was effectively a form of less social democracy. sometimes not even to left, backed by mass movements against the right. that's what this movement was, that it's most radical underwood, travis, and radical, you know, on the lesser level in other parts. i mean, we've seen decrease 9 bolivia where the code up to topple. april has been defeated in peru, they tried very hard to make this sort of totally corrupt far right. fuji murray,
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lady was fathers, an ex president, still in prison, charged with murder in argentina and is being shipped. so it goes up and down. and clearly there's been a huge victory for people who want a new constitution, a huge defeat for the trillion center party, and for the right wing and kidney. so i want to give up on south america and look, i'm to fire again. he will try and work, i think, with china and russia, and not with the to work, try and bring him down. and then venezuela defense so far toward the venezuela. nami would crumble. the venezuelan generals could be bought with dollars and they would then organize a friendly call to bas to jews name i forgot who they paraded around europe and north america, the actual president. i mean, that's
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a joke. they don't even know what they're doing. no one takes this sort of behavior seriously. whatever the rules shortcomings, he's state and government as well in states has been solid in resisting attempts to topple my stance. they have experience from the past. they know what happens when you do that. well, there's more on that in america and youtube channel john. golly, thank you. thank you. that's of the show we back on monday to talk about a future. very different from the one in visited by g 7 leaders in england. we talk capitalism, democracy and the potential for war on china with venture capitalist and political scientist, eric lee until then follow some social media to never missed story. and if you're following on youtube, comment below, and tell us about the time you protest, if it's something you believe in the a, me and i make, no,
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this is what happened is the benches in britain. this was kaiser report. the get used to the attacks from different directions. the attacks over various matters, various sorts and degrees of gravity, and i'm not stuck by all that. i mean who didn't speak to americans, nbc network ahead of me. so maybe joe biden, next week we'll go through the key point of that interview. also to come this out for you. judy san just family call on the u. s. government dropped the case against him as they traveled across america to raise awareness with the country. still desperate to extradite the whistleblower. his support and the washington is trying to send the warning to was he is being held up as.

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