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ration has been at the forefront of geo politics. we're for decades. certainly coming out of, you know, the, the trump era by industry is trying to paint, you know, a different picture and different angle in terms of their relationship with russia . vitamins definitely posher himself is trying to be the tough guy and be called upon to match food in terms of his toughness. poon is a master of joe politics to be sure. and i was a little surprised at the announcements at the biden administration had that they will be holding a solo press conference after the summit as opposed to it's normally a joint press conference. usually joint press companies are sign of some sort of mutual cooperation, mutual acceptance, or at least to show that there is some sort of goodwill coming out of that summit. the fact that the bio ministrations were presented. we said that there will be a unilateral press conference already signal that it's probably going to be quite a contentious one on one. maybe they'll change their mind at the last moment
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because, i mean, i should also say that after the nato summit, there was that odd moment when lensky of ukraine tweeted that ukraine was going to be part of nato. and that seem to be road back. you, you worked for the mayor of italy glitch go, what do you think about the wisdom of lensky tweeting out that ukraine is? what nato? i would not advise him tweeting at anything that would have had such a negative response from the americans. i mean, i think with a file he said that, you know, ukraine joining nato is not on, on the agenda and it makes it look a little silly. so i think was a bad move on to let's, he's part. but having said that, i am all in favor of nato expansion. article 5 is a very important article in natal, shorter and i think it should be brought into include some other countries. certainly what we saw with the, the aggression of russia was gotcha crimea, and eastern and ukraine. but it was,
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it was not exactly the smartest david put out there. well, knowing what the reaction was. and you think that expansion, obviously russia and the global south arguably say that's a violation of the terms of guarantee given to go. but you of and previous russian leaders, i mean what, where is by non stuff. i mean, a surprise that he chose victoria newland famous, was saying bleep the european union as the secretary of state. i understand she didn't like your client could go much to replace. you had coverage. that is a level of inter office politics that i don't really get involved in. i think biting is trying to find a voice for himself to define his presidency early on when it comes to foreign policy. and my experience, especially with united states has always been that there is the president, and then there's the state department, and they often don't marching lock stock when it comes to views and policies,
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whether it's regarding opec or in the least, whether it's regarding eastern europe and so while by just trying to find his voice, i think the state department is always trying to establish their own voice as well . something donald trump would no doubt, totally agree with you on. i think he had a few problems with the state department. okay, so to israel, to the middle east, we've had this terrible 11 day was so many women and children killed. what's the difference between netanyahu and bennett? well, i think there are a lot of differences. and one of the differences that bennet is going to bring a fresh perspective in a fresh set of eyes to, to decades old problem. and i think based on his experience in the high tech world and everything i know about natalie, having known him for about 15 years now, he's a problem solver, any lights listening to different points of view. he likes brain people of different ideas in different opinions together and finding solutions. and so i'm very hopeful that both with the fact that you have a new press of eyes. but you also have the most diverse coalition in israel's
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history. looking at this, including an era party in the coalition that just being together and sitting at the same table together, not as adversaries, but as coalition partners that some solution can be found. yeah, well you know, nate, an asian media just characterized that is instability in order to great diverse coalition. you said a fresh pair of eyes. ironically, he's against the new to state solution. bennett on the records are saying that so if i'm us there against the 2 state solution. so it says bullshit. he's on the same side as a mass and it will well, listen, i'm not going to get out in front of the prime minister in terms of what his policies will be. i do know that if you look historically it israeli leaders, whether it was been begun, who was labeled a terrorist by the british canadian and land in london. you know sure that i had made peace with the gyptian. you had arial sharon, who came out of the sovereign utila massacres and was, was deemed
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a blood thirsty politician. you know, he found a way to become a peacemaker. your yahoo was also vocally opposed to a 2 state solution in 2009 to clear that you know, that would be a solution. whether or not natalie bennett goes in that direction or not is not for me to say, i do know that. so we should have to be found, natalie bet wants not just jewish children, but air of children to grow up in peace and without the threat of war, always hanging over their heads. having certain military, his children have to serve in the military. think it's something that you'd want to find a solution to. when it comes the actual policy, though, i can't get ahead of the prime minister just yet. how many balanced indians has been killed because he boasted, of course, to former israeli national security adviser, yes. of amber do in 2015, the kill ballast indians. but i have, i have no idea what the army, what actions he took part in. so i really can't speak to that. i'll get back to been in a 2nd. if i you also advised, of course, benjamin netanyahu, you were
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a chief of staff, worried you think about the corruption indictment and about going to jail. i don't think terribly away from the, from what the basis of the cases are. if you read into the cases and you read some of the witnesses aptis upset and what the defense will be, i don't know that they are strong cases. so i don't think he's worried from the standpoint of being exonerated at the end of the day. listen for any human being, whether you're a prime minister or a private individual, to have these kinds of cases hanging over your head to have your family affected by your human being. it takes a toll for sure. he actually wants to get to the point where it's past him, as opposed to always living over his head. did you ever meet on milton? who's supposed to have given him money, introduced brad pitt to engineer julie, apparently, and also is responsible nuclear trading. if i met him, it was in passing, shaking his hand. i don't have a recollection of meeting him, but it's possible. i met him somewhere along line. although i can tell you that
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officially in the prime minister's office, i never met him because it was given to buy food in somebody's on the big top line to that story is the strategic arms limitation treaty and hopefully disarmament nuclear almond around the world. did you ever discuss with them you know, or with bennett, the nuclear program in israel? obviously in the news because i'm, i was targeting it with rockets in may. no. why do you don't think that's weird? no, i don't think it's weird. i don't think it's i don't, it's weird that it's something that is generally not discussed in public arenas. it's. it's something there. yes. you high levels of sensitivity on israel security . it's clear that the palestinian authority and he's created some phone their elections because they thought how much was going to do really well. do you think high on the priority list away from the economy for been it will be this threat now posed at any time, any place anywhere in israel can now be hit regardless of the by how much rockets?
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well, certainly the security and safety of the citizens is paramount. any prime minister . and i'm sure the, both these really military defense forces are looking at all kinds of ways to, to increase the defensive nature of the military. iron dome is obviously a huge success. it was built to protect citizens, but the end of the day, i think for any leader of any country, that's your priority, right, to defend your citizens and protect them and keep them safe. and certainly israel, the entire security apparatus as well. defense apparatus is focused 1st and foremost on safety and security of it. what does that mean? that the shake gera evictions are a price we're paying for israeli towns and cities to be hit by rockets? i mean, that's well, you know, for a quote isn't here, but you know that that's a court case that goes back decades and decades. and it would be for, i'm not familiar with the details of the court case. you know, all those things are certainly sense of even, you know, things like housing, demolitions in israel,
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even within his role and not just shake jar. i'll go through a legal court process. and then the security after us has to make a decision whether or not as you said, are the results of, of enforcing something, you know, worked to cost. i don't know that anyone anticipated that. what happened. she job lead to what it led to and i think you know, this will have to be something that they look at it on a case by case basis going forward. now i fundamental de, your vision for the benefit. premier ship is this, as you said, but i can begun was considered terrorist by the british government because british soldiers were killed after all. aiden in the past by israelis. you say things are different and people move from one reputation to another. sure, nelson mandela from terrorists to freedom fighter. but the tide is turning the other way. surely with israel because you're now seeing people in congress wearing palestinian flags talking about the settlements about the un resolutions about the international law that israel is in violation of. how worried is bennett?
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by so many little in the young generation of americans protesting in bravery, palestine massive demonstrations during them. a war in new york, no demonstrations for israel, given that israel is ultimately bankrolled by the united states. i think saying that it rolls back with united states is a real piece of income or information. i mean, israel's budget is around 300000000000 of which is we'll get about 3 and a half 1000000000 from from the united states. so that's about one percent of the overall g, d, p of israel. so to say that israel is bankrolled by united states is really not a fair thing to say. but on the issue the palestinians was we have to look at reality. the reality is israel as a state, as a country, as a jewish nation, is your answer to say, it's not going to go anywhere. the palestinians, as a people have, have sort, right? the world is acknowledged that i would say that the un unfairly,
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especially on the un human rights council, really got israel as opposed to even countries like iran when it comes to the resolution condemning human rights. so it's huge about value and security cars even and even un security council resolutions are completely unbalanced when it comes to versus the rest of well, i mean tell that, tell them what can i just find the, here's the connections. why the answer is going well. ok, but the connections just breaking up a little. i mean i was fundamentally boycott divestment sanctions. is the movement spreading across europe given that the use as it's anti semitic and it's wrong to do that to israel is violence. now the only method left for palestinians to uphold those un security council resolutions given the b for boy divestment sanctions is off the table. you know, it's going to be a losing battle for them. i mean, what will achieve more death of innocent civilians on both sides would be that
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that's not going to bring a resolution to anything and you don't violence only begets violence and it's not going to be a solution choice. thank you. you very much. after the break, we analyze the bite improved in some of the following nato nation condemnation of russia in china. and we are asking us president joe by irish roots that made the man resolve arguable perspective. violations of rules based orders on the irish border. all this coming up in part 2 of going undergrad, when i was shot, the wrong one, i'll just don't the rule out the same because the african and engagement equal the trail. when so many find themselves well,
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depart. we choose to look for common ground in towards the summit, the by the ministration pushed for a summit with russia. moscow agreed what the biden people hope to achieve, remains unclear. we are told the white house wants to restore predictability and stability. what could possibly go wrong? welcome back to the us president joe biden and russian president vladimir putin. a meeting in geneva, after putin declared the us, russia relationship is deteriorated to its lowest point in years. this comes off the back of the nato and g 7 summit where despite member nations, arguably united over their distrust of russia and china, the agreement was actually made between the u. k and the u over the highly contentious northern ireland protocol. joining me now for analysis from brussels is the independence for change. emmy peter dublin. clare daily. thanks so much clever
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. finally coming on. going underground. obviously, the torque here will be no valley imprisoned by the russian government. there will be talk as was continuing talk about china and hopefully about nuclear disarmament . why for you is the imprisonment of julian assange sort by the joe biden administration for maybe a 175 years in prison. why is he so important in the context of geo politics and the, and the meeting today? well, i suppose san just case really exposes, parker, see all the european union and see us and constantly lecturing russia about human rights under belgium, print some journal or whatever. and then here we have a probably the biggest spread press freedom case of the generation assange beings annoyed to freedom for 10 years for exposing us war crimes. fighting continues fast
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prosecution. it's also a r y lecture, a few about what's going on in russia. i'm imperative you are being until the same . they talk talk in one way and then they ignore the big, the big other issues as well. so to me, it's just totally exposed to proceed. studies going on be suspicious intervention. illinois, it's about geo politics rate will take like to be in the belly of the beast, the largest trading book in the world. you're in the car, it is a power of it. and then you go and make speeches about julian, a sons. what are your fellow m e p 's say to you outside the chamber, you know, it's on june. the old days was our wine and dine jim here. and he was brought in here by some of the more conservative liberal political groups in here when he was be in both came off the day. and then they all kinds of dropped to most of the feature. and the atlantic law that prevails in the european union on a fast becoming a role,
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doing its own independence to any great extent. so i think look, a lot of them wouldn't even allow me mention his name in a report on fundamental rights for the period 29. james took the shar, when we want to freedom for journalists from freedom of expression. we mentioned the chase, you know, the rest of your book doing journalism in the you and they don't speak your name. i mean, i made the point last week that he has been with liberty for 10 years. his health is really jeopardize and it wasn't 10 days from the open motion. page wasn't even arrested 10 days. you're being passing, emergency motions demanding his release. i mean, the 2 don't, don't clearly it's not very freedom of mental rights, but game playing and using these issues of wife and i say sion of human rights, cisco staying under prevail, fear all the time. and yet of course,
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media reporting the by it and put in summit, we'll be talking about european ideals of human rights. european ideals of a rule. blaze based order. do you think your biden can rely on europe as a, as a, as a great partner, obviously, to buy new ministration as worried about germans. the germans deal on north stream too. but civil tenuously, ireland may be relying on biting support over the post bricks it deal that bar junction certainly provided. it's really interesting because what were you really places you who have been buying in today's atlantic gender, who have been really accelerating russia phobia anti russian sentiment, anti chinese sentiment g. racism, alarming race which with no bearing to the actual facts in the situation. but at the same time, as you say, a lot of the members stay on the individual countries know that there economic
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interests are not by having disagreements with russia. nordstrom to another economic investment, are clearly to be in terms of russia, but to the advantage of germany. and over your power, so it's a bit of a contradiction. as we can see, often this rash rates can get our hands. i think we've seen with china. china is the biggest trade are now when i'm out of the rhetoric, mounting all new york in parliament about trying to stop the choice trade journal now is gaining momentum. while a lot of the individual countries obviously have a problem, sense will probably prevail. it's dodgy. territory, and i suppose the in pardon me for, from my perspective, this is a, by reflecting us his desperation against the backdrop of a change world order. because when fighting says that china is a threat to peace and stability and security of the united states is actually lying
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there. no security threat, but they are in economic trash. and that's much where it's really trying to change your game. because actually, by putting your time between our relations with china, with russia, the us of stealing a situation where we will be more dependent on the us, which i don't think you could, i don't, we should be dependent on anybody. i think you should be furthering its own independence course. why do your fellow european politicians, when there's money to be made as european prosperity at stake? why do they do it? they don't being blackmailed. i know there have been reports of anglo americas phone being bugged with ca, but i mean, why would they do that if it's not in the interests of the european population? it's incredible. listen, i asked myself that question loads of times and i think there's a couple of different things going on. i mean, certainly there is a growing our chinese center lunch deals by i suppose, sphere of china's growing economic supremacy. actually that's not
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a view that shared by europeans. there was a saudi commission recently which found our 40 percent european see china. so now i are necessary partner when only 12 percent of them same china as another bird to beach where it's no member say, predominantly taught us with an ally, so it doesn't make sense. but to me, one of the sentiment dealers is very much the arms industry here. i mean, if you want to justify arms expand that you're particularly out of time when economies are solving with a house pandemic. why would we choose to spend more money on defense when you got to have an enemy? russia has been painted into it's largely fuels are lost quite a representative from the eastern european countries on the borders of russia. but it's not unusual about the european parliament will be out of touch on this issue as it is with so many others in fantasies to ireland. the t shirt when it comes to
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trading and war did say mike award and said as regarding the war, which of course was fueled, arguably by arm sales from britain. the united states in the nation to israel said the use of force is disproportionate. you don't believe the the shock went far enough and he went a lot further than the bars. johnson here in london. actually they went to law for most of the members say john, in their defense like i was in the early part of them for many years. i know and i believe that our foreign minister has bought a lonely bible in defense of power. as you say, i would like them to come further. i mean, we have a piece of legislation on your home, which kind of stalk for lack of government support. unoccupied territory sale, which will kill a trade in goods from illegal settlements entirely in compliance, would be, you know, it could be a beacon for so many other countries on our house and to find one. i mean,
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it shows to me, they're all record play on the security council. i just started but small independent, neutral country we had or we used to have more so in the past could stop when everybody, no matter who they were are that has blown that a fair bit by spending the knee to us military, some through the use of our civilian aircraft, our airport by us military on a daily basis. and we do that because we're subservient to economic investment from america hall, which is really rational. and patrick government now says the policy and shannon applewood has changed. and of course, the chief strategist to the new prime minister, israel totally bennett, mr. boom. boom pot ones that he reg rejects for this. disproportionate can island be a member of a european union that is close geo, politically, and militarily to the united states,
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whilst not being in nato at the same time. is there a big tension for dublin because of this further contradiction, there were unfortunately not from the point of view of our salvage, because the tops of the military in orland, on the political sharpish and have long sought to be part of that kind of european military club moving with the, the big hardware, the big military investments that are now being promoted by the arms industry, or elements in orland. you want to purchase, not the citizen. so you mentioned the european defense fund in the what is that? okay, well, dollars i would say in some order, argues that it's actually illegal because we're legibly european union supposedly founded to bring peace on the continent of europe are never, would there be a world war again and all that good stuff. but it's just a fairy story really, but it is constitution. there were never to be a scenario where japan expenditure was directly found from any of all that changed
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in this financial package going forward for the next few years. for the 1st time. now, you bought it is used for direct military expansion. we have an appalling new scheme caused misnamed european piece to services, which actually should be called the european war facility. this replaced upon which was the african facility which was supposed to be far investments in africa after they have destroyed the place for the 1st time. for short, the african piece facility forms could never be used to bond or on military. and now the european piece facility provides european money so which can be used for african nations to buy back your p and are to use in their own countries. the stabilize the situation further on. probably then when the refugee is called the order of europe, the same big companies will benefit from the contracts to keep them out. so you have this big circle slash hold for the beach arms companies on so many different
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phones. and it's a complete archer on the setup, so can already be compatible with that. i would say no, but obviously they are, they play the game where we're in, but we're not saying, i mean, we're not the only non national country, but i've had questions recently showing the closer and closer move to a lot of nasal activities. and they just say, i know we're only observing or we're, we're not fully involved. they are, they have loads on their hands too. as far as i'm concerned. you said it's a great new form of protection for the continent and the arms. companies of course, say they're great employers on balance. how do you think buying and push in view each other and imagine whether members of the global south look to putin as something in a defender against us, a gemini? how do you see the meeting? yeah, i mean, look at it. huge amount to high about us, a lot of game played on posturing of home. boy, boy, you know,
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he's going to talk with you this choice, which is not really helpful, but at the same time they are the think it is a little bit of a sort of a departure from that 2 days left ways and see, you know, i mean i there's been a lot of hostility and a lot of i don't like the way the, the meeting has been. so i find is really objectionable. the way in which russia and china are being conscious, these enemies, so like, you know, we have this nasal so much about the globe growing chinese trash. this is a nation of 1600000000 people. their military budget is lower than the military budget of western europe. yeah. china, our military trash. that's ridiculous. you know. so. yeah, i mean look, let's say i don't see any calling of relations. they're not really, you know, island is neutral. maybe the me there next time,
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daily. thank you. high from me? that's the show that's over this blooms. they show we back on saturday, 9 years since we the julian assad. gently, i could do an embassy to seek political asylum today. he is being tortured in london, according to the un facing 175 years in prison for publishing revelations of supreme war crimes by major nations until then keep in touch with social media and let us know if you think those cold war us russian relations can be restored ah, me by the make. no, certainly no borders under the blind. please. we don't have authority. we go to the back seen the whole world needs to take action and be ready. people are judging common
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crisis. we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we need together in ah
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one of the worst ever shootings in america was in las vegas in 2017. the tragedy a close a little live in real life vegas. where many say elected officials are controlled by casino owners. the dangerous shooting revealed what the l v n p d really is. and now it's part of the spin machine to the american public barely remember that it happened just shows you the power of money and las vegas. the powerful showed that true colors when the pandemic had the most contagious contagion that we've seen in decades. and then you have a mayor who doesn't care. so here's caroline goodman, offering the lives of the vegas residence to be the control group. to the shiny facades conceal a deep indifference to the people the vice could have been saved if they were to take an action. absolutely, keep the registering and keep the slot machines being in vegas as a money machine is a huge cash register that is ran by people who don't care about people's lives
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being lost. the the, the, the super power summit can the 1st fight and put in face to face as president, bring the nations close together or when they drive and even deeper wedge between them. but moscow, top diplomats already set the mood, hopefully for the russian delegation. the autumn in all this going on under the roof of a luxury 18th century vener in geneva. we're going to take you around the mansions library with those precedents. we'll meet in a few hours time this week who were kind enough to offer access to this room and the villa went to excellent ordinary length to.
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