the the, the, the, the us and russian journalists fight in the fight to get into the geneva villa where presidents potent and vital holding the highly anticipated summit. but even those lucky enough to get inside was shoot away. quickly. go away. please go ahead and shake between the russian. mount american presidents begins that highly anticipated encounter with everything from nuclear arms control to mid east conflicts on the agenda. we'll keep bringing you all the action live from the venue in switzerland, in less than one minute. with russia us relations of rock, bottom, and insults flying. meteor painting the talk says there is a personal grudge match. so we've been asking people in new york and moscow food,

when, if things actually got scrappy between 2005, which of course it was bad, but in a fight was white. and the reason why the for when use hello wherever you're watching around the world. welcome. this is archie international. it's wednesday, the 16th of june, a big day for diplomacy notice between russia and the united states. today's many hours of conversation could have implications far beyond job items that they may put in. all right. now, holding the highly anticipated summit in switzerland, they've completed the 1st phase of the event involving just the president plus that top diplomat abroad. a meeting is now underway. there's plenty of stake too, and our team is in the city geneva right now. the, who's

me with all that, a lot of heat and this is a not just on us. we all battling mid 30 degrees celsius. it is pretty hot on this beautiful terrace, also very hot. of course. i'll be heated conversations, not on no doubt taken place by the close doors and the historic 18th century shots on a beautiful lake side view. here in geneva dot is of course why the russian us presidents of thrashing out all the various issues geneva has been preparing my goodness is that security from barbed wire to some serious weapons that i did see walking along the lake a couple of days ago. we've seen lots of policemen. we've seen military, we've seen helicopters and planes and boats. you name it,

everyone i feel is hopper in geneva. there is so much anticipation and height and body and it's quite a bit, a bit tennis a time. well, it has its own dissipation now because for all of the security, there's just as many journalists here as well, they were all gathered outside of the villa, which just over through our left about columbus or away where that summit is taking place. there was a real scrum in order to try and get your camera front and center the maybe shout a question outside of the building. of course. then they went inside. of course. that's where well thought it was on the front. we'd seen out on the doorstep by the, by the carpet. we see, and of course, how president putin present by shake and shaking hands. that, of course, that was seen ready as a good to taught if they, if they've done that, it's not going to go community cough. there was a few smiles. model is going to get a lot of fun. tell us that ends out what the region grew. it's not an inside john.

the did all couple of questions. it was quite interesting. actually. this seemed fairly casual that will not question thing for it around boots and i believe was oft, what would you do if nato included ukraine in the membership and he sort of nodded, but didn't do anything. in the meantime. i think an embassy, john, this all by jen. do you trust? pretend and bite and apparently noted, but then the white house burg passenger saki flight walk, bought those comments and said, you know, that was so much going on. i think it was just, you know, a bit confusing. he could have been noting at any of those things, quite frankly. we don't know what's going on. what we do know is that both of them are very glad to have met. and they said that this was crucial to normalizing what a clearly very can relation. what did they say that the sort of criticisms and after that i feel to mr. president, i'd like to thank you for your initiative to meet. i know that you've had a long trip and the heavy workload. there are many issues that have accumulated in

us russian relations that require the top level discussion. i hope our meeting will be productive. i said i was always the well, just a little taster of what the 2 leaders thinking going into the summer. i can tell you that the journalist who did get in to the villa they were determined to try and get as much as they possibly could out of the 2 leaders with a short amount of face time they had with them. it was a little bit too much for the security, and they were thrown out in there pretty quickly. the the movie, the dog job and the

job go away please. i've gone move all the way while since that is pretty much being black out, it will kicked out and we're waiting on the outside, the thumb calling to what we do know that they are holding separate press conferences. the 5 looks at to be less than an hour, at least not to schedule. president putin is fall off, and then president biden probably an hour, an hour and a half later. that's the word on the street at the moment to schedule lots. if it goes to schedule, we'll see pretty quick here. say have a lot to talk about or if they decided that our austin office going to got out of that. let's hope not. but we do know that i the way we will know what happened because my dad's kid is waiting on stand by fool, of course was from those 2 liters. in the meantime, what he did was talked off through a little bit what could be expected, what john are talking about, and generally the atmosphere a lot around the villa at the moment. what that historic summit is, of course,

taking place right now. the leaders and the delegations gauged and talks and everything else inside on the business end of the day. but that was something of a stampede that the at the entrance to the village journalist they pushed they shove this screen some of the lungs out. some of them to get inside cuz obviously the bad shoot isn't huge. the holes in the rooms, they are relatively small. so i used to what? usually some places, usually the to summit. so people, obviously, you know, the professionals. everybody was able to look to the screws once a shot, ask questions, and perhaps, you know, to, to give you an idea of how important this event is that visit these people course stab piece with an army of security agents around trying to get that. they did, some of them got inside got inside the protocol room where joe body vladimir putin, their foreign secretary. sorry,

secretary of state and foreign ministers where they need to get a narrow group. they've got inside and we've had complaints. they couldn't hear what the, what the leaders will say, which perhaps could be explained by some of the jen. again screaming, screaming their lungs out, we will to have some channels for blending that they were. they were shoved up, they wouldn't listen. if you, if you look at the footage, you know, they were told repeatedly, go away, get out move. they simply wouldn't do it. and the dog does this job and look, i can tell you that the day so far has beats the more pessimistic predictions people had speculated that they wouldn't even shake hands. they did multiple times and then we saw joe barton, let me put, and even sharing jokes, laughing at each other's comments inside. so obviously the talks are underway.

nevertheless, it must be said to get not to expect too much. booth delegation have said as much. there was have an awkward movement when the job button, after the appointment is called voice drove up to the entrance. he sat inside the car for a full minute more than a minute, meters away looking head in through through a plain window. just perhaps awkward, no reason given for that, but eventually he did get out after the inside the suite president also had the message of support and not, not safe inside the switzerland has done an outstanding job, provide the movie safety and security and the privacy that the to need to go about their business and, you know, try to at least restore relation to prison. mister president of the russian federal, mister president of the united states of america on behalf of the swiss government . i would like to welcome you to geneva,

the city of peace. it is known and pleasure for switzerland to host here for the summit. and accordance with the tradition of good mediation, promote dialogue and mutual understanding. with both presidents, fruitful dialogue in the interest of your 2 countries and the world. best wishes and goodbye. because you don't look, there are as many opinions about what's happening and what will happen inside of there are cameras here and there are a lot that, but most people agree on is that we shouldn't expect too much of temper. you will expectations of both delegations have said as much of the rush inside sex. this isn't going to be a historic sub the lower your expectations. this is, this is only the start and here's hoping that it's continuous look, that can be breakthroughs and huge progress. and some it's between allied between fred and would like when the american president gives the saudi arabia itself, hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons on the bill of russian. lead comes, the comes to moscow, excused himself the credit. here we have 2 sides that until recently will argue,

and i'm speaking the deferred disagree on almost almost every major international theme international topic. so certainly this is, this is a starting place. this is a foundation on which they hope to be able to build trust to build perhaps even respect for each other and learn to talk about the issues that both sides care about the well we do have a little bit of movement to tell you just outside of the villa conch, the what we know it's the u. s. limousine for joe biden. holder. i couldn't quite see the flag at the front of it, but i knew it was the us limousine because of the jump from security stood in front of it, were asking the question whether you join the secret service because you look like you're in the secret service or whether you just thought, looking like the secret service when you're in the secret service. i told peter this is a serious job. i'm not. instead of hollywood game wouldn't list, whichever way it works out, you can spot the u. s. secret service straight away. so joe, buttons,

vehicle outside those talks are still continuing both. so what we're going to do is because we still don't know anything that's going on inside, we're going to extrapolate from what we've seen so far on how those presidents looked. we're talking to a body language analyst right now. we're joined by don stanson. thank you very much for talking to us. tell us. what does this look like in your professional opinion? all of these 2 people are going to start a beautiful friendship, or is this just a few steps towards perhaps even being able to talk to one another again. thank you guys. well, i was home so several. so you guys in the past, and this is an fascinating, it's such a boss dynamic to miss the future. one of the things that i look for if somebody called leakage nice word, but it's not so that with signs that people get ready. well, now i didn't anything about from mounts that. so a lot of tension there between the 2 men in terms of

the touch, what i did want to ask you about is that a president putin has got quite open to that. and that's what i would say, the fact he does usually stand with his hands down his side. i did actually notes about a couple of years ago. i'm pretty much, he's never failed me. he always does it. in your professional opinion, what does that signify? okay, great question. so these are called is so for example of mr. trump, we used to see this course handshake. and also we used to see lots of gestures between mister putin on from where one would put behind on the back of the person. so insensitive, putative right, right. comparative man. and we tend to do is especially sitting down. we can see me spread these lice amounts of power gesture. and also when we don't go our of them in our tools, i am conscious gesture, which means i am so powerful when i believe i'm so powerful, i'm not able to make sense. so anyone that hands down the bank or to the side

is no authority period. gesture so, so he believes, and so the most powerful person. now now there was some footage of joe biden having notes and we've seen him in the past have to use these wherever he's got which journalist he's going to ask questions from big large fund. i mean not, but i'm as guilty as anybody of having to have notes and making track keeping on track of where i'm going. what does it mean when you turn up for a meeting like this? and you've got essentially some cheat sheets. yeah, and again, it looks very good to me because obviously the team and the to really build the pool and for some mission relationships and some great debate. so i don't think it goes to break report anything. it's almost, you know, for anyone that you go meet for the 1st time, if you will, they sort of breaking compact, looking down, others we get paints are really confident or post a picture. we will also looking at the headlines. i mean,

the headlines generally have suggested that biden is coming here from a position of strength, but he is the one who's going to be pressing through 10. apparently him crossing his legs is a sign that he is already the winner. if thoughts, if you off twitter and instagram, no one ever does, but they still have an opinion. what's your opinion on cross legs from an american president? well, only tend to look each person the individual. so i look what's called a baseline. so mr. boyd and tends to talk about posture is also a different situation. so i me personally wouldn't re attribute the him for the more powerful mom. i mean, if anything, if you look at mister putin, by contrast to sort of slouching in the chair, his hands on his knees, these legs are open again, just just basically. yeah. may i. so this is mapping very from, with the, but i'm not really good at this stage. going to make a great effort. was kind of coming over is the fact that, i mean mr. bond, it is

a very tactile, anyway, like to shake hands and put his arms around people. and again, not just, not mister houston, you know, he doesn't do that. so i'm, it's gonna be interesting to see how this develops. thanks for the analysis of what this looks like, but can i ask a question about wow, if you were to tell somebody how to walk into one of these meetings, what would you be telling them that they needed to do? how do you make sure that you come across as well? i'm the one that's going to lead this meeting. i'm the one that's going to come away with what i want from this meeting. well, you can just show me standing, brian macon. so strong contacts between 3 to 4 seconds with the person that you is speaking, say and, and also what you tend to see from politicians is the more space that i occupy, the more powerful are they to see themselves to be. so for example, one of the g 7 seems a couple years ago, we tend to say from true though they will adopt. why should the legs put their

hands on the hicks? and these are all gestures to signify power so, so that's kind of interesting century why would have, why, so want to do is strong posture. good. i complex. and again, we've not seen any sort of power, gestures from either model of the moment, ready, tens of when they walk through the door. there was kind of 3 by the swift presidents. so in the past, what moses said, politicians will gesture the old among through. i'm asked to say you will, the weaker person, so the moment not seeing any so great displays of power was going to interesting so it turns out that all these is that my mother has been telling me straight to my back. all she wants me to do is be powerful. i feeling straight into the bar and checking how i'm standing and thinking of my powerful or my passive as i'm standing. i feel a feel quite,

i feel thing was ready to bring it down that we have the way, but i'll give you a good tip as well as when you took a look at the position of their fees. so for example, if the person's focus pointing it in a different direction to a lack of logic to they're saying i want to leave now. so look at some acculturation when there's something together to me me. well all i can say is that literally means that my co host absolutely hate me. dara . i cannot have you more on this program because you clearly tried to drive a wedge between office was 1049, which ex spot. thank you for the fun that. thank you for bringing us a bit of love to tea, but also of course, breaking down very important things before the very important press conference. so we're going to wait for later. thank you so much for coming on to the playground. thank you. well, before we do get to those press conferences before we get more into the real nitty gritty, serious topics that we, i've seen

a law bill in the build up to the summit that it was billed as a head to head between 2 real heavy weights of the political world, well, we decided to look at what would it be like if they went to heads the heads in a different heavy weight realm. in that realm of a boxing ring? what the people of new york, the people of moscow thought would happen? who would be bad, but in a fight? probably vital plaid american parent. and unfortunately, he would win because his mother been divided. i think probably because he a little more in shape. they both wouldn't make it after the 1st couple of runs of involved give him if they thought nobody wins, because the more a war biden is going to do is the very best to represent. but probably got a lot more homework about how to get around it. look pretty big side of your

of course the russian president will. william wells can win here. blood hobbies in his pictures on hard back. but white in the solar wind computing video to do most or maybe by doing work out, we don't know yet. so i think they're both very different. have lovely so so they will do no fights. they will end in peace. i've had enough war well, to get more into what the 2 leaders will have been discussing. i'm joined now by member of the european parliament for alternative for germany, maximillian chromos. many thanks very much for speaking to the human rights. they were described in particular by the us side is something that they were going to try and hit the russian side with. now you sit on the human rights council when it comes to the european parliament. the united states hasn't really liked it when the mirror is being turned around on human rights issues. what as neither

representative of russia or the united states, you human rights opinion when it comes to us human rights record. the you in that term is following the u. s blindly usually and you know, to us police in his own exceptional, i live on the shining city upon the hill. so if you show, showed up the mirror and what's inside of it, they protested. great to see me. and what the american politics is doing is they know it's a human right. is our mean on our tool to maintain our empire and european position . and they believe it. yeah, that's really just gonna say we saw the card pull top outside the house party does a room potentially, but the extended fun to talk talk to all that have come to an end. we might even be hearing something sooner than later. but before that, what i do want to ask you about, because i think this is something that probably will come up, is nato. russia clearly has

a view that nato is expanding to borders that this object goes against all those viable promises that were made off the traps. the soviet union has made her live itself is the idea of russia, the aggressor, its last remaining lifeline. i'm not true, but at last remaining live fine, but i mean look at the age of to abide and he was ready, wasn't in congress when the code was still there and people usually don't change stem mind so mentally. and if you go to the native bureaucracy, then people grew up with the russians on the enemy. and now we have to tell them i'm 3, it has changed a little bit. the old soviet union have collab. and personally, i think there are many native officials who are so happy that they now can come back to what they learned when they were younger. and they say, no, we always said that the russians are the enemy. let's, let's move forward with that. and there is a kind of

a group thing i get to and of course, and they to become more more aggressive. i want to talk to you about the comments made by vladimir prudent when it came to the united states being in a similar position as the u. s. s. i was just before collapsing idea of a multi polar world and whether the 3rd party that isn't here right now with this meeting is actually president of china. how does this all fit together? what are they looking to achieve here? and where does the u. s. vision of the world fit with perhaps the rest of the world's vision. the us vision rose means we really the world when biting came into office, he said the mer america is ready to lead to wrote again. and i treated maybe i'm not ready to get left by the americans that i run to govern myself, but that is not the concept. so they say we lead it with our concept of human rights. and human rights is what is defined federal source, including edgy

t q i plus plus, plus rights in canada and don't, don't touch it. and the rest of the world says no, no, we have our own traditional regional id to run. this is margie polarity. and the americans now try to export their cultural idea to say this is a global business, a global ethics, which everyone has to share. and then the russian said, no, we have our own tradition, our own way to run our country, chinese se, come on, we are, we have to go to the large population. we have our own tradition. we want to do it on our ation way to do it. on your american way, and this is why we quote him now a systemic rival. did the realty is that america say we want to a global system, a global attic for everyone. and what the chinese and the russians say muslims more, more and more to let's have different word regions and allow different regions to

run. don't reach on the way. this is in my mind, the big split between american liberalism and the rest of what about how about nature statement came out last time i thought to clad that china post systematic college. what i thought was really interesting was that waltz biden is basically and thought about coming and saying we really need to direct all our forces eastwards in a way. very interesting under the market said it's something we need to recognise. but let's not overrate. and i wonder, obviously with my cool, it's time and power coming to an end. whether that sort of reasonable move, rational move, balancing force within the european community in response to china, in response to russia. what does that will leave a little bit? and again, sort of the us and europe kind of thought brought together and if the even ruth insured before her and now what i see comes after merkel seems to me worse than her

. but it's completely true. she always understood that we need for several reasons . good relationship in both russia and china. china is to say clear, our biggest trade part for both germany enter your pin union. and we have a trade surplus, germany as a trade surplus of china. if the only industrial country, if we follow the american and green our trade china, then one 3rd of the, of the ducks company are bank crop. so you have to, to be realistic. and this is what merkel is doing. and now you know her term and as we will see, what follow through last, it is like merkel but a weaker. if the greens come we can shut down everything because then we get american politics from berlin. i think if i was going to be a better man, we're looking at i'm unless you really but thank you very much. that is

a 1000000 cry m e p for the alternative to germany party. what we're here for, of course, slow is the, the summit between joe biden and vladimir putin. we got to a situation when it comes to the relationship between these 2. well, it's not good at all. we can have a look at why that relationship is the way it is right now. the united states and russia made great progress and building a new relationship. today, our relationship is broad and it is strong. i don't expect russia to look like the united states. number 2 is we will want the same type of democracy as in iraq to tell you the truth. ah

me 200 years has not been able to establish a stable, confident relationship with the way. why not? when you're asking, when russia has not been able to establish stable relationships with the west? well, let me off q, why is the west not established stable relations with russia? both such should make the efforts. god forbid, you enter into any contradictions with our american partners on the american continent. this is considered the holy of holies. and yet allocating shifts with missile munitions, 10 kilometers from where we are, is considered. ok. it's an equal approach. the want to reset the relationship. it says goosgo, which means what would the

brush as aggression against ukraine threatens our vision of a europe that is whole. busy free and at peace the one thing i'm county knows with, with prison, proven event occasion to spend some significant amount of time with is that at his core he is a, he's practical. ah, what we've broken away from not life pictures. joe biden has just left the villa grounds just over to our left. he's got into the beast, the us president limo. the talks all 3 hours over the looks like the talks over maybe the foreign ministers continuing something. but considering this often to thought local time is now 5 thought he thought is around throughout watching less than you were expected. they said low, we're looking $4.00 to $5.00. but he came out the, i mean,

the cars been waiting for around probably 20 minutes. 50 minutes before putting off, we recognize the american flags. and then of course the security detail, they were saying that was the fast action that we've seen all pay. otherwise, we have been waiting for any glimmer, someone to look through the car and someone to open the window, any sign something's going on and try to determine anything from the gate to the u . s. president. from the, from the body language expert. you are but literally seconds from the door open to him getting and he wasn't holding around there for anything. thumbs up there was a big thumbs up generally, like me just saying sums up like goods thing done. i do side with joe biden on, i've got films up myself we. those will certainly hear the know the noise this cause and we see the calls will be coming over from our left over to all right. the way it's where you'll be giving that press conference know if everything's on schedule as we think wrapped up a little sooner than.