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me hello and welcome back to geneva, where we've heard from the russian president vladimir, following his much anticipated summit with joe biden. we are seeing just outside of the the villa where the meeting took place, the russian presidential limo. we're expecting vladimir putin will be leaving very soon from that meeting. there was certainly a lot, a lot of ground covered quite a few questions and given far more than i think he originally anticipated because they kept say, one more. one more question. i forgot half the story just about we've got half the sorts in the rush, and so i was hoping to have calls from president biden within half now i thought, i think we really need to delve in precisely what it was that president putin's that because that was so much to impact, generally positive, but i think says one person who is the best place, all man on the ground who was in the room with the press conference taking place

with the russian president. does dia, hello, thanks for joining us. walk us through what was said in the room to make maybe he was crushed by those channels that we saw earlier. wait, i think we do still have minutes. if we can try and get more odd one more time you what we even saw you, you're famous. did you know you're on the television? we thought you all seem president putin a question? no, no, i think it's we will come back tomorrow. in that case, we were listening to exactly the relationship that came up. they talked about vladimir putin with us about the times. joe biden. nicole tim mckillop, joe biden, had said that he had no soul when he looked into his eyes. we've spoken to diplomats throughout the day here about what is the difference between what said

before you go into the room and what said in the room. president said he had no illusions about where the united states stood on their, their agenda and where joe biden stood on the united states, the agenda. and what was very important that if he did, he used to watch, protect, in which i know it can seem like a flight you blind? yes, it was productive. but i actually think that here, productive was pretty much the fact that one can get and one course, a huge takeaway that was very productive, was the return of ambassadors. both had been expelled in the fall out about 23 weeks ago. we were waiting to see what would happen. now we do have confirmation that they will be going back within about 2 days. also didn't seem like it was a hostile environment. also very important. we can try murat does death. again, i'm not sure if you're there, we're going to try to times a charm. can you walk us through what was going on with the vladimir putin press conference?

now we are, we can but we are going to hear it from black to me on the team said that that water sign we've got we've got as well as all the security communication there is there has been technical trouble all day but, but there was, there's a lot to get through through what vladimir putin said here, and there was no hospitality from the country meeting. very constructive views differ on many issues, but i believe both sides have shown a willingness to understand each other and to bring on differing positions close together. i have no illusions following the meeting,

neither old nor new. there can't be any illusions at all. okay, well we have lost murat again, as you can imagine, there is a lot of journalists with a lot of equipment, a lot of signals being sent in a lot of different places. momento, we've got soldiers, we saw tanks and weaponry. so i think may be thought is not helping with the signal for sure that we had the historicity was not a thing not is very important, especially given the fact that maybe some more we're expecting has been given the things that especially of come from the american camp towards president who said one, not the i think he take away was that they, well actually they did mention prison a fall. yeah, this was something that people thought was just kind of a small compromise and achievable compromise. there are 2 high profile us systems and russian j to in, to russians and us jail that when know specifics given about what specifically

those for bought dialogue bought dialogue. they said it's about, it's definitely something we could walk on. we did commit to return to the conversation. so i'm sure for the family of those that hoping this of course relatives will be the chosen ones. yeah. i mean, we also looked at cyber as well. now this was something that was very hotly anticipated that the 2 would talk about accusations that russia elections that they of hacked into us businesses. you know, as government accounts us every how much drive everything, all of the hacks know, what president putin pointed out was something that the united states themselves that made which is that, well, hacking, for the most part, originate in the united states when it comes to the list of countries that the most cyber attacks originate from the united states and canada, some countries in latin america and the united kingdom, russia doesn't appear on that list. in fact,

when it comes to finding out exactly who was behind cox, russia said they've made 5 requests, lot of 5 requests last year, 10 requests 35. i think if i requested this year for information from the u. s. and yet to hear anything in return, this was the one of those points where the dialogue with again mentioned by the russian president that there would be bilateral cooperation on getting to the bottom of fiber attacks. because let me approved and pointed out the fiber i called the u. s. pipeline that we saw just recently was huge news across the us lesson news, but still just as important was a major cyber attack that took place on russian health care that originated in the united states. now they're going to have some bilateral meeting, not and tried to get to the bottom of it. let me approve the thing didn't believe that the hoc on the or the cyber attack on the russian health care system had been carried out by state. but that it needed to be discussed by state actors because this is a new from to yet in defense,

dispatcher will to change from us because actually 998 russia at the un has been putting forward resolutions. that would create a framework in a sense, the watch ahead of that time because it's really, i mean, cyber warfare has been around for a long time. but the frequency with which there is a toxic and carried out has really grown and recent. yes. so suddenly, and it was actually up to us, it was the us only member of $190.00 plus. that was deterring it every single time . so clearly now the u. s. is realizing that something does need to be monitored. another issue that we absolutely knew was going to come up, it was something that was in pretty much every single headline and they usually started with bite and it's going to press president putin on human rights. i think there are 2 parts to this. the 1st part i would say is up to you and said, look, we're going to agree on a document visual about individuals. alex, they know me, we're going to listen to exactly what he said in the 2nd, but he's also, i do want you to look in the mirror because you're coming round and you're telling the world how to live and that they don't have the right human. right. that shot is

rushers, the big bad when it all like, tell me one time a bay. it's still up and running around the still dozens, indefinitely. 40 people still indefinitely detained in guantanamo bay. despite the international public outrage, i started on 100 and i think 11000 civilians have died in 21 years. and as of course we know from the song sneaks often they, you know, the civilians were targeted. and, and i also, and i knew this would happen, they brought up, john, read the sick these, that almost 500 people have been arrested in respect to that. and that story is not dorming of the camp. this will mean capsule in january and the story is that human rights was that she's depression of people who have a different political opinions. people went by and large and lined with president trump on the not to the atlantic st. bonnie, who was really at the cool of all of this. what did said, he said look,

everything was done in accordance with the law. let's listen before the nation you system there by the recording on non systemic opposition and the citizen you've mentioned this person knew full well that he was violating russian law and he knew full well, but there was a warrant for his arrest. nevertheless, he came back to russia and he deliberately wanted to be arrested. so he did what he wanted to do. what else can we say here? just a moment. alternately going into this, this was portrayed is a huge clash between political heavyweight, it did come across at times. like there wasn't a man behind the name. this was biting versus putin, putin versus bite. and they, what we did here from the russian president is that they spoke as humans, they spoke with people and we heard the presidency job and brought up being told by

his mother they, they really open that up is that there is a human side relationship that's clearly never going to end with them being friends, but the thing that they could do a bit of business. yeah. and as i mean, i don't know, you have so much the what sole has come from the white house. so long dating, of course, back to bush, the famous time that he said he looked through 10 in the eyes and he said, you know, i saw his soul and i think in the past and i could walk with and this was something of course that i didn't brought up from that 2011 meeting what he said, and he looked and scrutinized everyone's to contribute. and barney, i'm sad. i don't think you have a soul one dot comment was raised. this is exactly what putin responded to the john nest. new school can yet know several years ago when you met dan vice president vida. and he said, you look into your eyes and didn't see a soul there. when you looked into his eyes, they just said person, you could work with me. sure. and this is not the 1st time i've heard this story, although i do not remember it at all,

but i admit it might actually have happened. it seems to me that president by then, and i spoke the same language and that does not necessarily mean we have to look into each other's souls, all right, or swear, our eternal friendship. we protect the interests of our country. and these relations are always pragmatic. i'm all without, she quite interesting is particular not question it ready to state the different characters between the questions of the russian. john listened on some from the western media. the russians on this will very much focused on what came out of it. you know, what was the atmosphere precisely what you know, what agreement with whate, what experts are going to be met. whereas the u. s. john seems to be following swap osh. i shouldn't be surprised, but the headline, you know, that we've been reading. what about what biden managed to get? i'll tell, did you know, bite and press the button. it was very much about trying to press them. we're trying to corner him into thoughts and issues. and actually at a certain point, they felt repeating himself so much that even president putin said, i mean,

i've already said this, but this is the nature of course, of a press. i'm going to have to on several questions. i can the big takeaways off. definitely seem productive, definitely looks at all levels. the communication has opened very interesting the they said that neither of them extended an invitation either discredited on white health reset. it's just not the time you need to pick up time for that definitely looks like their thoughts and aspects that they will be agreeing on. what the climate, the arctic cyber wolf looks like. there are steps towards something that i think by and large, it was almost better than what people expect. i think so one of the interesting bits that we heard was and was the russian presidency to prohibit joe by the great, this was in the sports my yes, that was going to be point school that wasn't going to be a when a, nobody walks off with the trunk we're gonna find on pocket for now, we are joined by luke revenge. thank you very much for joining me. independent journalist belgian independent journalist like hold your french yesterday policies for the french half french that way. half right, stability, responsibility, and dialogue. they were the 3 words i underlined the most of my notes when i was

taking them of what vladimir putin had to say. how has, what's your impression of that in relation to all those 3 things? what, it's, what was expected? no degradation, you know, degradation of the relations. of course, they are not the perfect friends coming out of this meeting. clearly. it was too short, too much on the agenda clearly, but they touched on every point apparently from what brought me putting said for me, what i see into this press conference of the russian president is that it was very articulate as usual. the onset, every question in detail, even the worst one you mentioned, the fact that, you know, it's bore the ring on insult. when it comes to the american press, it's incredible while the russian price is very polite when they come to interviewing president biden. not the american press with the russian president really arch enemy or whatever they have in mind. so it's a good result. i think the press conference was excellent because it is seen as

such in adequate change. so they count, start editing things and showing the president putin in the wrong light. so this was very clear. and as you mentioned, the cyber attacks, which is the key thing 1st, i think we'll listen to what some by the next se, but he will not use the word will fair. now, he will avoid it. it's not cyber warfare. there are jacks, interact, questions on both sides is that the russians has been waiting for the answer from the americans. so it's a good conference somehow, you know, we didn't expect to, you know, but on them kissing each other mountain, i think it's, they were, was there anything that surprised you did receive it of the american presence. reading the last question with a 9 years old and now off she was. so please to ask this question. this is very taught at 9 year old. wondering about the history of the ask you about trade. there was a question. the sanctions were brought up and talked about

a little bit president who was asked, can you see an increase in trade between the 23 to 4 percent. it is for 3 of us trades with russia. could we see that increased proven saying that's down to the united states and it on sanctions? how can you see that developing what i think, you know, president biden is the civic. this guy is, is a politician from the cold war. so, you know, knows that to take an example, the mail is russian. he knows everything that ukraine cannot become part of nato, all versus behind the scene and all everybody knows what every one the other one knows and, and i think president biden will not stop american companies from trading with russia. if you're, if you're doing business, you're not planning aggression now. you and if you plan aggression, you all lose money. absolutely. well, i didn't want to ask you was there of completely lost?

i think it's got some story. what i was going to say, know what i was awesome. i it is. i think it is it. i got camera but had actually audio what i want to ask you was moving forward. now do you think that we're going to see maybe a different kind of rhetoric from both sides now that they've met? i think that was a lot of anticipation. people always expected them to come out for the fight and rattling the psalms. that didn't happen. it was, it was always a very, i found a very pleasant press conference in the sense i felt that key areas were targeted. a lot of that kind of negative energy that had been suffering around the summit period and took out of it by talking to you about how boy was talking about his family. do you think we're going to see that shift in the way that they speak about each other and to each other in the future? i think the tone of russia doesn't need to change has been very quiet and open from the beginning. it's the tone of probably bite on that change. i'm not sure that when he said prism poured him was a kid that he really meant to say it. he's very slow. not to say anything else.

well, joe biden may be about to start at any minute. i will warn you, lucas, as we do, we'll go straight to mcfall. that wanted to ask you a question about jenn was again about who was allowed there. now i know to some of our colleagues from cnn, nbc abc, cbc the canadian broadcasting as well. we're in the house today. no russian journalists invited to the joe biden press conference. that's coming up. what's your make up? while i'm making that, that president biden is afraid of having to talk openly, the price where he doesn't know the questions in advance. do you think that the cause to a domestic audience? if he's asked the question about, say, the cyber attack stuff, which is something that president putin says, both he and this american counterparts, the greatest, the cyber attacks and originate from the united states. that he was not going to play with a domestic audience, particularly domestic political already. and what's great is that many americans watched this in man guns. heard it from the mouth of the devil outside. i mean,

food can and so it's excellent for once, you know, it's not edited. that's exactly what i was going to ask you before i had my son start to talk was about how one of the questions was. do you think it's right, president putin, that you give an interview, for example, to an american journalist for president vital does not get them to russian. but my question to you is, i'm not sure what he provides. he said is sometimes, oh, i think the last president biden have to say, anyway, hello everyone. well, i've just finished the, the last meeting. this week's long trip the us rush summer. and i know there are a lot of hype around this meeting, but it's pretty straightforward to meet the meeting. one, there is no substitute as knows. you've covered me for

a while now for face to face dialogue between leaders. not and president put and i had a share unique responsibility to manage the relationship between 2 powerful and proud countries. relationship that has to be stable and predictable. and it should be able to, we should be able to cooperate words in our mutual interest. and where we have differences, i want to present, put and understand why i say what i say and why i do what i do and how will respond to specific kinds of actions that harm america's interest. now, i told president bush, my agenda is not against russia or anyone else. it's for the american people. fighting covered 90, rebuilding our economy, reestablish relationships around the world are allies in french, protecting the american people. that's my responsibility as president. i also to

all of that, no president, united states could keep faith with the american people. if they did not speak out to defend our democratic values, to stand up for the universal and fundamental freedoms that all men and women have in our view. that's just part of the dna of our country. so human rights is going to always be on the table. i told it's not about just going after russia when they violate human rights. it's about who we are. how could i be the president of the united states of america, and not speak out against the violation human rights? i told him that, unlike other countries, including russia, were uniquely a product of an idea. you've heard me say this before again, and again, i'm going to keep saying what's that idea? we don't derive our rights from the government. we possess them because we're born

period and we yield them to a government. so the form i pointed out to him that that's why we're going to raise our concerns about cases like electron devonie. i made it clear to president food and will continue to raise issues of fundamental human rights. because that's what we are. that's who we are. the idea is, we hold these true self evident that all men and women, we haven't lived up to completely, but we've always why and the, the arc of commitment and included more and more people. and i raised a case of 2 wrong clean prisons, american citizens, paul, well and, and trevor read. i also raised the ability of radio free europe, radio, liberty to operate and the importance of a free press and freedom of speech. i made it clear that we will not tolerate attempts to violate our democratic sovereignty or to stabilize our democratic

elections and we would respond. the bottom line is i told president putting that we need to have some basic rules of the road that we can all abide by. i also said there are areas where there is a mutual interest for us to cooperate for our people, russian and american people. but also for the benefit of the world and the security of the world. one of those areas is strategic stability. you asked me many times, what was i going to discuss with food before i came, i told you i only negotiate with the individual. and now i can tell you what i was intending to do all along. that is to discuss and raise the issue strategic stability and try to set up a mechanism where, why be we dealt with it. we discussed in detail the next steps are countries to to take on arms control measures the steps we need to take to reduce the risk of unintended conflict. and i'm please you agreed today to launch of bilateral strategic stability dialogue,

diplomatic speak for saying get our military experts and our, our, our diplomats together to work in a mechanism that can lead to control of new and dangerous as fiscal weapons that are coming on the scene now that reduce the times of response that raised the prospects of accidental war. and we went into some detail of what those weapon systems were. another we spent a great deal of time on was cyber in cybersecurity. i talked about the proposition that certain critical infrastructure should be off limits to attack period by cyber . any other means i gave them a list if i'm not mistaken, if i don't have it in front me. 16 specific entities. 16 defined as critical infrastructure under u. s. policy from the energy sector to our water systems. course. the principle is one thing. it has to be backed up by practice. responsible countries need to

take action against criminals who conduct ransomware activities on their territory . so we agreed to task ash, experts and both are both our countries to work on specific understandings about what's off limits and to follow up on specific cases that originate in other countries. in there either are countries. there is a long list of other things we spend time on. the urgent need to preserve and reopen humanitarian carter's insurance, so that we can get food just simple food and basic necessity. the people are starving to death. how to build it, and how it is in the interest of both rushing the united states to ensure that iran, iran does not acquire nuclear weapons. we agreed to work together there because as much interest in russia interest as ours and how we can insure the arctic remains

and the region of cooperation rather than conflict. i caught part of prejudice trying to press conference and he talked about the need for us to be able to have some kind of modus operandi where he dealt with making sure the artic was, in fact a free zone. and to how we can each contribute to the shared effort of preventing the reserve researches of terrorism that ganna stan is very much in, in, in the interest of russia not to have researches of terrorism canister and are also areas that are more challenging. i communicated the united states unwavering commitment to the sovereignty and territorially charity of ukraine. we agreed to pursue diplomacy related to the mx agreement. and i shared our concern about bella, bruce. he didn't disagree with what happened. he just has a perspective what to do about it, but i know you have a lot of questions. so let me close with this. it was important to meet in person.

so that can be no mistake about or misrepresentations about what i wanted to communicate. i did what i came to do, number one. and then if i areas of practical work, our 2 countries can do to advance our mutual interest and also benefit the world. to communicate directly directly at united states will respond to actions that impair or vital interest or those of our allies and 3 to clearly lay out our country's priorities and our values. so we heard it straight for me and i must tell you the tone of the entire meetings. i guess it was total 4 hours was was what was, was good positive. there wasn't any, any strident action. take it where we disagreed. i disagree, stated where it was,

where he disagreed, he stated, but it was not done in a hyperbolic atmosphere. that is too much of what's been going on over the last week. i believe i hope united states is showing the world that we are back standing with our allies rallied our fellow democracies to make concert committee concerted commitments to take on the biggest challenges our world faces. and now we've established a clear basis on how we intend to do with russia and the u. s. russian relationship . there's much more work ahead. i'm not suggesting any, this is done. we've gotten a lot of business done in this trip. and before i take your questions, i want to say one last thing folks, look, this is about, this is about how we move from here. this is i listen to again, a significant portion of what president prudent press conference was. and as he

pointed out, this is about practical, straightforward no nonsense decisions that we have to make her not make. we'll find out within the next 6 months to a year, whether or not we actually have a strategic dialogue matters. we'll find out whether we work to deal with everything from release of people in, in russia, prisons or not. we'll find out whether we have a cybersecurity arrangement that began to bring some order. because look, the countries that most are likely to be damaged. failure to do that, are the major countries. for example, when i talked about the pipeline that cyber hit for 5000000 ransomware hit the united states, i looked at him. i said, well, how would you feel if ransomware took on the pipeline from your oil, feels.