the hey folks, welcome to dennis miller plus, why now listen, i have to send up a flare. i don't know the world of reality tv all that much. but we chatted before the shelf buried. i showed lady kristin cavalry and she at least seized the reins and jumped off course you know, are from the popular reality series laguna beach for i think they were all wow kids down there. and then she joined the spin officers in the hills. that was huge, i remember hearing that all the time, the last 2 seasons and also had her own very capillary show on the e network. that's the exclamation point because it's exciting. show bits. i don't know a lot about the world, but i know that i'm impressed. she's broaden down to become a brand rep. she has her own brand, accomplish business woman. now it's called uncommon,

james. and i must say that shipped her if her taste in items it was good as her taste and branding names uncommon. james is a cool what she's just released her new skin, caroline, uncommon beauty. we will chatter up. i think she's living down in nashville right now. and she can educate me on the ways of reality, tv and branding. maybe i should come out with a dentist speller, beauty line. now maybe not that as well or flush what the hey folks. welcome to dennis miller plus one. we are joined today by our friend kristen cavalry and you know what, we had a few ladies on recently who were building these brands. you can see that there is a way to do this. now i'm very strategic. i'm fascinated by, but of course, you know, or from, i guess she became a household name in laguna beach and then she joined the spin off series. the hills

for its last to season had her own show, very cavalry on e. and she's also, as i said, a business woman with her lifestyle, brand uncommon, james, fascinated by that name. she'll break the code for us and just released her new skin care line, uncommon beauty christian capillary. how are you? i am good. thank you. i was reading your notes and i came across one of my favorite notes because there's there show biz and then there's business. and then somewhere in there it says she had 2 dogs. and i said, i like her already. i'm a dog person myself. probably not sure how that's really funny. well, i had to shepherd's and a yorkie, so big and little. but to be honest about, gosh, maybe 8 or 9 months ago, one of my german shepherds just went missing. we still don't know what happened to

him where he is. he had his color on my number and electric color and everything. so really devastated about that. still being who we had the puppy was just crazy, but we still have kona, my other german shepherd. and then my little, your bardo who i've had for 13 years to big, big your brother. sorry to hear about the one big guy, but the kona and bardo cute names you have such a lovely pad there. where are you coming to us from kristen where you live enough? so i'm in franklin, tennessee. i'm about 35 minutes outside of nashville in the country, and i love it. i never thought, you know, going to be for all, never thought i would end up here, but it really suits me and i really love it. i'm really happy that route here. now i think there's some hills done there there. i've driven out of the from the hills to the hills. it's not a clear. yes, but i think i've been in the environs. it's quite lovely out there. that

love tell me, you know, we had kathy ireland on maybe a couple weeks ago. i've known kathy for a long time. and i remember early on she was always very smart about thinking she didn't disparage being a model as you don't with the reality shows. i'm sure, but she saw the next step and she wanted to use it as a platform of springing. i think she's done really well. and i'm wondering who did you 1st see in this field of breaking at and establishing a brand who started the pique, your interest that made you think maybe i should use my social media cloud to go down this road? that's a great question. i actually so jessica simpson, you know, she had the newly weds and then she became the most successful every brand at the time. and i remember i had a line with chinese laundry. that was my introduction into this branding world. and i remember hearing the staff on her line guy and she's making that kind of money on her shoes alone. so i really thought that there was something to it. and then when i launched uncommon, james, 4 years ago,

i decided to go back to reality tv. and the sole reason that i wanted to was i looked at it as a marketing tool, you know, for all of that exposure. i'm really happy that i went back to reality tv for a multitude of reasons. but that was my main, my main reason initially, and i got to tell you, i mean it really capital up to the next level. once that 1st episode aired. and i'm really thankful that i made that decision to go back. i wrote an article the other day in the new york post about a young guy. listen, i missed this a little. i'm 67. so it's not quite my bailiwick, but it was read about a cat named the food god or something. young guys, a car dashing friend, and it's funny when you hear that you think well that there's not a whole world when the kid touched the pipe business, he was a stuff killer. he has rod 56 firms. the represents. i remember thinking, well there's the star gate of reality tv on the other side of that, there's very serious business to be done here, right?

there is, yeah, and i mean, i've actually had a conversation with some people that are on reality tv now. and all i say is launch wants something, get a product out there, something that people can buy because you can buy that kind of exposure. i mean, and i see it now, you know, from a marketing standpoint with uncommon, james, we're trying to recreate all of that to get our sales to be what it was when the show was on. and it's, it's very difficult where before, you know, you do some a tv show, you don't really have to spend any marketing money or anything like that. so it's very different. and so i always say, you know, you want to you, and i think you, when you put it on a tv show, people feel a connection to it. you know, everyone saw me launch on common james out of a room in my house and then how we grew year over year. and i, i do feel like people feel like they're invested in your company and uncommon, james was essentially a character on the show. and so people really they buy and that it's a very groovy name. i it sounds so cool. i don't even believe it was probably test

. margaret probably hatch from you about something. i don't know the story of the name, but just as you say, and i think, wow, that's a cool name for a company. tell me how you come up with uncommon. what's nice. well, thank you. james is my daughter's middle name, and i love james for girl, even though it's not tradition. you know, with uncommon and i, everything that we do is uncommon, james, i love a balance between masculine and feminine. i don't like anything to perfect. and so i just felt like uncommon made sense for, for what we were going for, but it was my 30th birthday and i was a group of friends and i had to be and we were just throwing names around and we just kind of came up with that well, it's a good one, and if the core behind you is any, any indicator you taste, i would say that you have exemplary taste. it look so nice. have you moved enough to tell me about, tell me about your streams, which,

which kind of start with shoes? you said what would tell me about streams? what else see it as under the common, james, labeled mile. yeah. so we launch would be jewelry. that's our bread and butter. i have little james, which is baby and kid. and then we have a lot of home products that we have candles, kitchen and bark countries. and then we're just launching uncommon beauty, which is our been getting hairline. and i'm really excited about this because about a year ago, i did a deep dive into the clean beauty world. and what i found out was that, you know, you can say you're a queen beauty brand. and in fact, you're really not, at least not up to my standards. so i felt like there was a need for us in her line that wasn't also being really effective. so we're launching with our 54 products. the products that i think everybody needs in their daily routine, they're very much a part of my daily routine and i'm really excited to get them out there. well, listen, i know victoria jackson who has her and her husband have hatch that skin care line

over the years that young people use. and for god's sakes it is an empire. now i would think that you have to go step by step with this though, because i think if, if you break the trust in today's world, it's very hard to get it back. if they sent, you're just slipping stuff out to the marketplace and don't have their best interests at heart, you have overstepped. and that can be costly. so i imagine you have to use caution here and use your head and roll it out when it's right. yeah, exactly, and i think, you know, that's the thing with social media. now, if there's one thing wrong with what you're saying, if you're not being 100 percent transparent and accurate, they're gonna tear you down and they're going to come for you. and so, you know, that's one thing with the clean world and i was what i learned that, you know, you can say you're clean and have all kinds of, you know, petroleum and all of these turbans and added fillers in your products. which is shocking to me. and so what we did was we went with the strictest lift on the

market and i feel very confident. i'm very, very excited about these products. i really stand behind them. and like you said, i mean we're rolling out with our 4 or 5 products and then in january of 22, we will roll out some price or a little bit more fun. not necessarily part of the everyday routine, but still very much a part of the routine. we're talking to christine cavalier and she is a business woman. now reality tv start to obviously her lifestyle brand uncommon. jane's as i said, exemplary name, and she just is releasing her new skin care line, uncommon beauty. i see you're open to a brick and mortar and nashville. if somebody went in on any given weekend, could they find you in the back arranging in inventory or working with counter you know, when we 1st opened it 3 years ago? yeah. you could, i, i'm not there that much anymore. to be honest. i was there a couple weeks ago, but now you know, we used to have our offices adjacent to the store and now we have

a separate office building. so i, i go to the office. i don't really go to the store anymore. and then we actually just about a month and a half ago opened up a store in dallas, and then we have one in chicago as well. punky true. you know it's funny. there came a time where i had people in my employ. i started as a stand up comedian and obviously you're on your own, they're your own guy, but nobody's working for you. then all of a sudden i got a shot and i people under nice working for me and i found it a little awkward at 1st. i just felt a little sheepish about being somebody's boss. how did you take to it right off the bat, or where are you company with it from the get go. you know, i still get a little uncomfortable about it, to be honest. and i still get like very guilty as the right word, but i definitely feel like i have to be in the office 5 days a week. i have to be showing base. you know, if i'm expecting everybody else to be here, i need to be here as well. so i definitely get weird about that. but i think the

hardest thing for me, as a boss, has, has been to fire people. that is something that i, i read i get, i get, you know, anxious about it. luckily now about a year ago, i hired an executive team, so i have a b o who sits directly below me and he now has to deal with all the operations and has to deal with all that stuff. so i'm more in my creative bubble now, which is why i started the company in the 1st place, but there is a period where i was overseas, everybody, and i was having a lot. oh, and it's, it's tough. you know, people often referred to their business as their baby. that's my baby. but you have dwarf that with the 3 actual babies, which i think you're beautiful. company of raising 3 kids right now. and i don't know. i always find that having the children love and me as far as my avarice is nature about getting a not avaricious but i wanted to get as much as anybody that i have that kind of

diverted my attention over here obviously. and i found i got more productive. what i did are you finding up? yeah. you know, that's so true when you have kids, your time is limited and i found that i just wanted to do the things that i was really passionate about. that really feels me and i want some common james, really as a hobby, i was a stay at home mom for the most part. i did a little hosting here and there, but essentially i was a stay at home mom living in chicago. and i wanted something to do, and then, you know, once i realized that there may be something here or that's when i decided to go back to reality tv my my soon to be ex husband was just finishing up football. so it allowed me them to be able to have a little bit more time to then i could go and do a show where i couldn't have done that before. and so, yeah, it all just kind of came together. but yeah, i mean my kids have always been my number one priority. i always say i have a family bucket and a work bucket. and work never spills over into the family and i'm just always been

like guy, you know me, my show i had very strict boundaries to the point where it was kind of a problem for e, but i was home every night no later than 435 to have dinner with my family and i never on the weekend, so you know, you just kind of figure out what works for you. what were talking to kristen car, larry and it sounds like she has reached a point in their life where she's got it all together. we'll talk to her more after the break and think she comes from denver and then she ends up in chicago. i will will find out about that. and also i think they've re launched this the hills. they have a new the hills by the way, you should get the music from and for the, for the redo, you should get the music from child to music. the hills are alive, started up at the bar, up in the mountains. the hills are alive and then sit down and do you know, some sort of groovy, rap hills hills hills. maybe he's getting uncommon or get common call him on com

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oh, when i would show the wrong, when old rule just don't rule out. the thing becomes that after an engagement equal betrayal, when so many find themselves well, the part we choose to look for common ground talk a lot about law energy and also use volcanoes as a metaphor to elucidate. so many of the big trends happening in geo politics and finance the folks. welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we've been talking to

kristin kat larry and she is a business woman now with her lifestyle brand uncommon. james, and that should log you in your head some some rooms you want out of your head immediately. that one has a nice lay of the land to it. she just released her new ticket and caroline, uncommon beauty. and you can see uncommon, a nice preferable mode, she can put that to anybody as she builds the empire here. and i think it's a smart choice. tell me about where do you, you know, i always think of you is a california girl just because that's when you got shameless, but you hatch in denver? is that where you're from? yes, i was born in denver. i've actually the many places and then i moved to connecticut before i'm moving back to colorado and then a suburb of chicago and then laguna beach, california and i, when i graduated high school, i moved up i, i met my husband j when i was 23 who was in chicago at the time

that brought me back to chicago, and then i've been in nashville now for 4 years. hi ron, that i think jane made the long sauntered from denver to chicago in his career. so it's funny that you to had you have made it to by ironic what, at what age in denver or where are you the 1st time you think i've got to head to california? what ones that happen? okay, so i move, going to be when i was a freshman high school, i was living with my mom at the time and buried mil and i a suburb of chicago. and to be honest, i was getting a lot of trouble. and my mom, my mom didn't really know what to do with me, and so she sent me out to my dad who was living and they're going to be for the time. and it's crazy because i always think had, i never moved to going to be my life would be wildly different. so it's just kind of amazing how your life takes to certain places. yeah,

and i don't remember them doing the reality show. and barrington, illinois, quite frankly, but i'm telling you that has to be the only time i've ever heard. i've ever heard the story as i was a wild child and buried in illinois, so they sent me to laguna. he never got the trouble did not get out there. i always fun billy kids. so i remember thing. i grew up so square in pittsburgh. i got there. when i 1st moved out to be from me to meet young kids and thing. my god, they're like, you know, european play boys in such a everybody was so advanced. when you 1st hit the ground running in laguna, was it a strange world or do you say yeah, i can do this. i believe i can do this. i that right. but, but i will say, i mean now that i'm older and i have kids,

i like the things that we did and i don't know, it's just kind of amazing. i felt like we're going to be it's, you know, these really well the community is what parents do as of easier just to look the other way, you know, turn, turn and turn a blind eye and that's what they did. and so we got into our trouble, i mean, in high school we would go up to l a and we would go out and we would party. and i mean it's just crazy to think about as an adult. now the stuff we did, but i'm alive. okay. well, i'd imagine a 34 year kids are pretty young, but you, you are going to have to figure out you get to play is coming up eventually christ . and when you have to talk to the kids, you have to tell them what you it. and i don't want you to do this, or you have to budget a little and say, well, i was, you know, and it's, it's definitely most parents have that moment where they, like, i got to figure out a way that's not to disingenuous of discouraging the kid from getting to well, but kids are going to be kids to be can i know it's true. i mean, i always say though, you know,

back in the day i used to just sneak right out. no big deal. now there's alarm system and you can have it. so anytime the door or window opens, there's a beep, so i'm like, well, good luck to my kids. they're not gonna be sneaking out like i was that for sure. are talking to kristen kind of larry and the the company is called unique games and uncommon game, sorry, via i c n a and the new product line is called tell me again, the name uncommon beauty and beauty. what tell me about the redo of the show the hills new beginnings. you know, i always think of these shows is capturing a moment in time. i like to think of, let me see people from a certain time in a certain place and i don't always needed shifted forward. how is it working out? are you a big player in it, or do you have a smaller part in it? and there's a new group of kids tell me the the layout. yeah, no, no,

i did one episode and it was kind of fun. it was like a little mini reading union, but i, i don't want to go back to reality tv to be honest. you know, i put in my time and like you said, i'm 34. now i want to focus on my kids in my company. i don't need to be putting my life all over the place anymore, but it is a combination of some of the original cast, rody, audrey and heidi's friends are and then some new new kids on the block if you will . but you know, i had a fun film in it, and that's where i'm going to leave it. but tell me about where the next step is for the business. where do we go with uncommon, james? from here, do you want to, i don't know. some people shoot to the stars other people like the book ends on it . i'd like it to be this big, or do you just want to grow this brand and destroy yourself into it? yeah, i think i learned through the pandemic a, you know, pre pandemic. i've had all of these, these goals and i still have goals, but before it was like, ok and 21. i want to do x, y, and z. and then in 22,

i want to do this that and the other we're now i'm letting go a little bit and i'm finding that, you know, the jewelry uncommon, james is doing extremely well. if the skin here can be at the same level, i'm a happy camper. maybe we'll open up another store. i'm just not so hung up now on what is the future hold. and instead, i'm sort of what he likes to happen. you know, of course, now every like, what are you going to sell the company? are you going to do that? and i don't know. i don't know if i'm going to sell that company one day or my daughter maybe wants to take it over. right now. i'm really enjoying where things are at and i'm okay just being where we are and being present. yeah, it's interesting. i don't like to ask people questions about their 2 famous people lives. so the details of that are unimportant, but obviously are, as you said, getting divorced soon. you have 3 children, you have a burgeoning business, you can do 2 things with it. you can do a reality show, bought it, or you can make your life. the reality show, i say right now, you're probably

a stranger in a strange land to some degree, not having the affiliation of the show newly out of your marriage. everybody knows that that's tough for anybody. 3 kids. and i imagine you're exploring a very intricate scripts on the basis about a reality show called your actual leg. yeah, yeah, exactly. i'm finding myself again. you know, and, and that excites me. i'm feeling really good. i'm really, really up to you. but yeah, i mean, the been a massively transitional year for me and i'm excited about the future. and the thing is like when you get into your end of things the business, and would you feel that the uncommon label would eventually ever want to do a show not with you in it. but we're just do you have any interest in becoming the producer of media or would you like to stay with product lines? mostly? no, you know i would be interested in it at the moment. no. i think just because my kids

are still so young and i feel like my, my workload is mapped out at the moment. so i'm not trying to add anything else onto it. but maybe in a few years i would be interested in something like that. we'll say, do you think nashville the picture fancy, are you there for a while? can you see staying there, or do you ever see returning to either chicago, connecticut, del, a, or you, you and nashville, gal now? i'm gal, i love it or something so peaceful about it and you know why kids are here and so now i'm so happy here will folks, we've been talking to a kristen kind of a learning and you of course know her from the well. she started out on laguna beach, young girl that point and it's grown into a, a full blooming c e o, a woman. she then joined the spin off series, the hills. they've come back around for hills,

the new beginning. she's in one episode, but at least the least some of the old people came back to kick the new one off. very cavalier he was on a and she is now the lifestyle brand uncommon. james is her bailey wick, and they've just released her new skin care line, uncommon beauty sounds like they've got stores down in nashville, chicago, dallas, and it might grow out from there. we've enjoyed our time, chris soon. we appreciate you coming on today. thanks for having a great talking to you. all right later gator let christie have a larry. this is dennis miller plus one. 0, these are the full people who pulled the trigger. i survive something on survival for. one of the hardest things that i had the face was not having

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