to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan samuel, we in budapest, he is the podcast to read the goggle, which can be found on youtube rumble and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at me, internet media project or a gentleman cross off rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to start off with be my here in moscow as well. and team and you and i, and george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday. and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this program, china. europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that that was very interesting? go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that european country, yes, especially germany, which has a huge economic di, you know, to china and east european countries away. absolutely. do not want to have

confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese, the rhetoric and war, chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these countries don't have to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy for many years states that somehow the united states is more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some controversy in eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than, than the united states. but they don't want to fight china and when, at the last, the recent nature meeting sharing, that was the fact to declare in any way, let me quote that china stated the bishop sergio behavior present systemic jet and just all the rules based into there. so all the errors relevant to nato security.

and of course, in nato language, that means chinese a name because cool presents systemic chairman, just and also it's a big lie because in what way can china throughout the nato? i mean military military in nature as many times stronger than china and chinese located in the different part of the world. and china during the last, at least 40 years journey did not invade or the congress. it did not take any territory under his control. it did not do more critize, a foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed us caused by the states. and certainly reminded me of the situation that we saw during world war 2. well now to germany, awful allies in europe such as italy, such as congress, but just finland. they were not interested in outside your would you and then

establishing german hold on. i mean, feels want to take that was, i was really, there is next to that. what they didn't want to take learning crap, you know, it barely and wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot a site, but they didn't want to die on the whole purpose for them. i mean germans for the beans to participate in the seizure, but any group and germans forced to die. so that when you, when you're surrounded, hostile ideology, every medical you, what would you say got a lot more than they bargained for rules based order. we just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that down the rules based ordered tour. ok, no, that would be one of the things i wanted to do this george, because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden is present. america is back. well, not everybody wants it, even with it within the, your a, p and union within nato. want one america back the way it was before and see what's

happening. the way i look at it is this huge cleavage is big. it's very small now, but it's going to grow and grow and grow because the us is the master of nato undoubted. okay, what they want, they get ok. european union is different. ok, you can, you can have this threat, inflation, these imaginary threats. we have to spend all this money because of the russian threat, but when it comes that you cannot mix here a little bit more hard headed and sober, okay. and just as being pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together? and then china is the, the obvious in it. it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead, george. right, no, i think there are many issues. there's without question, what will the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. so it would be one step ahead of because, you know, thinking about what, what's the next right, that we can justify continued existence, but the communicate that was issued,

the other day was still basically focused on russia, russia, i mean, the paragraph off the back of the bag, about all the terrible thing brushes done, all the terrible press. russia poses rushes, cheating, rushes violating this and so on. so yes, china is mentioned, but it comes down to like paragraph, 50 bible, something. and the language is much more circumspect. you know? yes, china, a challenge, really have to look up on it. but then the china is cooperating really generally was russia. that's it. that's the point, george. don't you think i mean it because natal essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly, but surely there, it's the overhead window all over again, getting essentially what they want to do, what it weighs china with russia. they want to see them as inseparable,

that the more they do, no more russia will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding. well, go ahead. i said it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules base order. and they even mentioned that like, well, china is a challenging the values based washington treaty, the treat that set up so so there is a, now there's a question. the united states sees china as a major geo political rival. it's an emerging economic giant. and the united states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become the economic financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. that will be the end of the dollar's role in the system. so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama. 4 much less on the trunk, you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility towards china. but the europeans, they are essentially a regional. how they're all regionals. they don't think,

globally, i mean, yeah. russia, they can think about, but there was a history there. and of course, as being pointed out to me of those, all of those states that are absent, rabidly, anti rush in the baltic states and poland. so they can't really get wrapped their heads around china. i mean, china is nowhere near europe. and so it's very hard for them to go along with this, even though the united states. but our question is trying to push them in this direction. you know, again, if we make the job position to the cold war, there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was just as one of the conditions here and, but there's no cold war. we can use that term that washington wants to push the european store visa be china. well, they, china is be use biggest trading partner. okay. again, we can go about, you know, a breads that are bad and all that, but trade is not a bad. it's a very bad,

a real ok and europe, as a company is trying to pull itself out of this. pandemic needs tray, and china was very much well good. they can be both ways the same. what, why do you have to have it both ways to say that been in completely impractical? well, washington keep fame. we will make russia pay the price, you know, that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made the, you pay the price because it wasn't the stage to impose sanctions on russia and for whom these sanctions are really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no russia who lost billions. you know, at least bon card billions for most on the, on the, and the russian sanctions in the 1st year, you know, and later there were more and more voices. so then you will pay the price and

what's china that price is going to be several times car with russia. but you know, it's a lesson you have to learn from history when he would join an aggressive extremist . i told you unfortunately, the people like victoria knew the people like john brandon, they have an extremist, i go to the moment when you, you with them, you lose, you should prepare for huge osis of poland or is the what the night stage to help them rush and besides that, that was their idea. they wanted to be strong, you know, with united states because of, okay, the space is behind them and they're not, the states is now canceling. they possibly want serious deals with china. that's what is happening, you know, and with greece, it's a moral guess because greece is bay very much the with chinese can on. they sold them several of their ports, you know, in greece. so indeed is going to be painful. and the problem is that this is the

price or ideology. i mean, also this is the price of flights. i mean, look at the way american liberal press covered by the me is it, you know, i almost woman and washington post max boot by the why this miracle fujen space by them knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when she did it much better . the trump was simple than call it, i mean, the whole idea of present in, by the, which means, you know, some kind of a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to left. you know, they're so stupid. that's okay. so that was the, the main people, the media in the last 2 weeks. i mean, john, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rice for the babylon, b or the onion because i read the article. thank you. give me a presenting to me and it's completely satirical. i mean, if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joke, right?

yeah. well, i think the probably the big like mag boot have a problem on their hands. they spent the last 5 years making these claims that trump is a trade the trump is selling out. the country trump is working in trump is trees in the any, any just go buy from the war. russia even even what he's imposing sanctions, were what he's picking out. diplomats is really secretly applaud by the throw us off the same so that they've been battling this by yet. now they have bite in their mind. you know, they rejoice the trumpet the to be, or is there any being randomly? course the russian truck was double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it's ok when biden does it durable. when from the last 25. thank you

george. if trumpet had the same exact summit, when he would be a traitor, by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader, it directs boot. does actually show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to american foreign policy. it's, it's all about their perceptions and the echo lima, their ideology, right gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break will give me a discussion on some real stay on the news with

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me welcome back to cross that. are all things considered? i peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news and this is the home edition. the alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because it's slowly but surely being revealed as we approached the january 6 trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of a name, co conspirators, and, well people wondering, hire their names reactive,

and is it because they had contact with the authorities of the f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. but what's even more troubling is that the legacy, liberal, liberal media points a finger you saying? well, you must be a conspiracy conspiracy. there is for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions. we'll have to ask those questions. go ahead, george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is a southern sea change, the story of the events of january the thing. and it reminds me of what happened some point in 2017 with the trump russia story. when debbie noon is suddenly disclosed that the f, b, i so valence warren of cancer page was based entirely on the steel don't be a missile. the shocking disclosure and of course, the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x f, b i. c,

i a was actually nonsense from spirit garrett. this is not how the f b, i operate does not the operate. this is total total. and then we got the inspector general report and pretty much confirmed everything that devin knew. something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news, and then calls until get out and the significant blend. greenwald. and it's now really very serious question britches. there are that there are always people mention in the indictments, uninvited co conspirators. and then mysterious person, one person to person 3 group for some reason, even even though, according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the events of genuine. for some reason, they haven't been invited. so therefore, the next question is raised to what extent did the f b, i know what was going to happen. wholesale extent was the f

b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those and actually causing that arrive to a place where the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story. and of course, as you say, the legacy media is gone haywire. how can you get these people have a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say his name person a ok, how cable. but that's my, that's my alibi, that's my rooms. this is the contact i had with them. no, no, no. the state says you cannot reveal the name. that is a kangaroo bar deem of the thing that is so i think you know, because so much of happened over the last few years, isn't it? people, again, prior to trump going down the us later, we could buy that is a bench bar as they pay the press and leave

a pretence of an added to the adversarial relationship. when the intelligence community with the, with the cia that's hard to today, they are covering up for them every step of the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is terrifying and for people thinking about it because i mean, i have monitors at work. i see what i'm seeing in and in, but some you say with there are, i mean all january thinks i mean in their building up to something here. and it looks like there is a major, a cover up we need to learn more. but i mean, this is very, very destructive, where the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were. you know, technically, professionally supposed to keep an eye on. go ahead. well, that's why i call president obama. that was president in us history. you know, it was on his watch. and, you know, formally he was a democrat, you know, almost just president. it was, watch the f,

b i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and, and they were questions about elections and about their age, interviews to patients. it became clear that these people are, there is one point i think, which is important here. in our president, would you mention the january c? storage is press one, and i know that. so people on the left in the united states took it back. you know, we've had some criticism from peter coasting, for example. i think, well, you mentioned that he was not the right to stand or that have to stand just it's a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993. you know, that was the last. i've been something like january 6 happened in russia, and of course, we don't get very badly when we saw this man, you know, one of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not,

you know, was no threat and in him was probably misbehaving. but he called bar in both blood just shot her dad. and there was this video and now people gauge in 1520 years, even though they did not current any one and the almost are not involved in violence. that's why people in russia taken it, but it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat, you know they, they don't think that way. ok, but ga, mean, ashley babbitt, i mean, you know when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage they were told we've seen snippets of it as some of it from what i have seen counter contradicts the narrative that the liberal of legacy medias portraying, of what happened there, but it seems to imply the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. okay. it seems to me that either, you know, they have

a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create one because we never find out how ashley babbitt died. then this whole thing is a bars from beginning to end. yeah, yeah, it really is. and now you mentioned the 14000 hours of footage, we could even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 dependence on not getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure that, you know, given the politicization of the d o, j, that if this port age was really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment, the things that we do see, people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. they go against the narrative, we get the strange characters bellowing outside, so mechanical storm,

a capital. and they will be told by the writers themselves. you know, he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator. why, of annapolis and why the bus was things like after why ever you've been indicted and then you've got to gain the questions like, what about the lead of the louise white supremacist groups like the proud boys and the keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christopher ray and the other is always going on about how can none of the leaders has been indicted over this? i mean they supposed to take part in those events. so i haven't been backwards raising all of these suspicions. and then we got the ashley bobbitt, which is we're not even finding out who the person was, who shot that. and why did he do it? well, what, what i think lean from what people have been saying they know who the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so. okay. but, but the, my, this, this goes to a bigger, broader point because in the way that the narrative of january 6th being present in

pearl harbor at 911. there isn't ball disclosure. there isn't more transparency there. there will be parallel narratives that will live for a very, very long time. that cannot be reconciled. ok, and this is my biggest worry. and i think the, it's the media is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it is still litigating and judging the trump presidency with a trump resides in their brain and there's nothing they can do about it we we thought with the recent as well. and you know, so when the man leaves the stage is take it off of bob warm. he's still the most powerful board in america while they're building this. it's incredible. go ahead. how fast i would like to remind our viewers that on the day one, when it happened, we said on this program that of course base back against would not be justified if

it was a crime which was inexcusable. what these people did. the other problem, the other question is the reaction of the state and the so called investigation and how all of these turned into and you're right, stuck fire, you know, right. our fire, if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was that dutch call me, just indeed would needed, or if he claimed, or maybe it was most likely a presentation on the not just what happened played was much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened play that was basically, a more boys asian or follow by one party, and we suddenly have 90 percent of us media strongly described by the and not expressions of us over very significant part of the american you ation. and the end, the service consequence is the fact the mon part of american hates and the,

it was not russia. who did it. i mean, you know, way better in the r i could see george laughing, but you know, outside forces and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be a drama. and it's actually, and we look at, look at rush gaijin in corral. the progressives. ok to keep the democratic coalition together. they will do where they get their finding another narrative to corral their give, bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok, as jo. ain't doing such a great job. ok at the end of the day. go ahead george. one minute. no question. is going to be midterm elections next year. at the moment it looks like, you know, we'll look at the back in history. the democrats will suffer losses. we can be absolutely certain that it will be

a russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's, and boot is that the during is news conference. what is that? well, are you optimistic? it says, well, i don't know, i mean, it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how, what by did this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american system. so yeah, there's no question though, or the russian involvement will play a role. but if we do find out that the f b i itself was actively involved in the events of john, the media will step in and say, this is all a very boring story. let's move on now gentlemen and one of my get some good ad here, and i want to think our viewers watching us here are the scenic, remember the ah,

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