tv Cross Talk RT June 21, 2021 6:30am-7:00am EDT
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the potent biting summit, his coming gun with bodies, real message on his european tour with the galvanized washington's outlines into some kind of anti china alliance. did he succeed? also the january 6, right? the f b i and the ark of history. me to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is the podcast to read the goggle, which can be found on youtube rumble and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at me, internet media project or a gentleman, cross, capitals, in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to start off with be my here in moscow as well. do you mind you? george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday . and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this
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program, china. europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that that it was very interesting? go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that european country, yes, especially germany, which has a huge economic dice, you know, to china and east european countries away. absolutely. do not want to have confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese rhetoric and war, chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these countries don't have to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy for many years states that somehow dominated states is more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some congest in
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eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than the united states. but they don't want to fight china and when, at the last, the recent nature meeting sharing, that was the fact to declare that anymore. let me quote that china stages emissions and the surgery behavior present systemic jet and just to the rules based internet or the as errors relevant to natal security and quote, him made those language that means chinese and any because cool presents systemic challenges. and also it's a big lie because in what way can china throughout the nato, i mean military, military in nature as many times stronger than china and chinese located in the completely different part of the world. and china, during the last, at least 40 years, charlie did not invade or the congress. he did not take any territory under his control. it did not do more critize,
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a foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed, of course style by the states and certainly reminded me of the situation that you know, we saw during world war 2. well now to germany. awful allies in europe, such as equally as such as congress, but just finland. they were not interested in in your would you and then establishing german hold on. i mean, feels want to take that was, i was really, there is next to that what they didn't want to take plenty of crap. you know, deleon's wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot a site, but they didn't want to die on the whole purpose for them. i mean germans for the beans to participate in the see job any group, and germans forced to die meal starting grow. so that when you, when you're surrounded, hostile ideology, very medical and you, what would you say got a more than they bargained for rules based order?
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we deem it just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that rule based order door. ok, no, that would be one of the things i wanted to do this george, because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden is present. america is back, but well, not everybody wants, even with it within the you're a p and union within nato. once, once, america, back the way it was before and see what's happening in the way i look at it as, as huge cleavage is big. it's very small now, but it's going to grow and grow and grow because the us is the master of nato undoubted. okay? what they want they get. okay. european union is different. ok, you can, you can have this threat. inflation is imaginary threat. we have to spend all this money because of the russian threat. but when it comes to e nomics to hear a little bit more hard headed and sober, okay. and just as demon pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together?
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and then china is the, the obvious in it. it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead, george. right? no, i think there are many issues that there's without question. well, the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. so it would be once that adult because you know, thinking about what, what's the next right, that we can justify our convenient existence. but the communicate that was issued, the other day was still basically focused on russia, russia, i mean, the car dropped off the bar off about all the terrible things, rushes done, all the terrible press, russia rushes, cheating, rushes violating this and so on. so yes, china is mention, but it comes down to like paragraph, $55.00 or something. and the language is much more circumspect. you know? yes, giant, a challenge really have to look up on it. but then the china is
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cooperating really generally with russia. that's it. that's the point, george, don't you think i mean it because natal essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly, but surely there be overkill window all over again. can essentially what they want to do is the way china with russia. they want to see them is inseparable, right? actually, the more they do that, no more russia guy will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding. i thought i said it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules based order. and they even mentioned like, well, china is a challenging the values based washington treaty, the treaty that set up. so there is a, now there's a question. the united states sees china as a major geo political rival. it's an emergency economic giants. and the united
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states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become the economic or financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. that will be the end of the dollar's role in the well system . so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama, much less on the trunk. you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility towards china. but the europeans, they are essentially a regional. how they're all regionals. they don't think, globally, any, yeah. russia, they can think of up as it was a history there. and of course, as being pointed out to me in those, all of those states that are absent, rabidly anti rush in the baltic states and poland. but they can't really get wrapped their heads around china. i mean, china is nowhere near europe. and so it's very hard for them to go along with this, even though the united states. but our question is trying to push them in this direction. okay. but you know, again, if we make the job positions cold war,
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there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was one of the conditions here and, but there's no cold war. we can use that term that washington wants to push the european storm. visa be china. well, big china is b, use biggest trading partner. okay. and again, we can go about, you know, a breads that are bad and all that. but trade is not a bad, very, very real, ok. and europe, as it is trying to pull itself out of this, pandemic needs tray, and china was very much well good. they can have it both ways at the same time. and that's why you have to have it both ways to save that. meaning, is it completely impractical? well, washington keep fame. we will make russia pay the price, you know, that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made the you pay
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the price because it wasn't the stage to impose sanctions on russia and for whom the sanctions were really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no russia who lost billions. you know, at least bankcard of billions, but most on the, on the rush and sanctions in the 1st year, you know, and later there were more and more horses. so then you will pay the price and what's china that price is going to be several times higher than with russia. but, you know, it's a lesson you have to learn from history when he would join an aggressive extremist . i told you, and unfortunately the people, i don't know the people like john brandon. they have an extreme mistake, george. the moment when you you with them, you'll lose your prepare for huge osis. poland. obviously, one night the stage to help them rush size that,
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that was there. they wanted to be strong, you know, with united states because of okay, the states is behind them and the united states is now canceling. they are possibly like serious deals with china. that's what is happening, you know, and with greece, it's a moral guess because greece is bay very much the with chinese can on. they sold them several of their ports, you know, in greece. so indeed it's going to be painful. and the problem is, this is the price or ideology, and also this is the price of life. i mean, look at the way american liberal press covered by them. these it, you know, i almost woman and washington post makes boot by them. why this miracle fujen space, by them knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when he did it much better than trump was simply that call it. i mean, the whole idea of present in by the median is some kind of
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a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to the left. you know, that's so stupid. that's okay. so that was the, the main people, the media in the last 2 weeks. i mean, john, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rice for the babylon, b or the onion because i read the article, thank you, deem of presenting to me. and it's completely satirical, i mean, if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joke, right? yeah. well, i think the people like mag boot have a problem on their hands. they spent the last 5 years making these claims that trump is a trade the trump is selling out the country trump is working in trump is trees and any, any just buy from toward russia even even what he's imposing sanctions, were what he's picking out. diplomats is really secretly applause by
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to throw us off the same so that they've been battling this by yet. now they have, by the man, you know, they rejoice the something to be, or is there any being friendly as the russians crop was double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it's ok when biden does it terrible when front of it. so in the last 25, thank you george. if trumpet had the same exact summit with he would be a traitor. by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader. if it's direct boot, this actually show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to american foreign policy. it's, it's all about their perceptions and echo lima. their ideology, i gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break book in the discussion and some real stay, ah,
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the survive and interrogation. you've gotta be ready to stand your ground. definitely don't want to be going to trial in a jump, so one cups. you're more likely to walk free. if you're rich and guilty, you are. if you're poor and you got 2 eyes and 2 ears and one mouth. so you should be seen in here and a whole lot more than you're saying. if you don't take that advice, usually going to dig yourself before the lose the welcome to cross that are all things considered. i peter live. l remind you were discussing some real news and this is the home edition. the
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alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because slowly but surely being revealed as we approached the january 6 trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of a name, co conspirators, and, well people wondering, hire their names redacted and is it because they had contact with the authorities of the f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. but what's even more troubling is that the legacy, liberal, liberal media points of finger you saying, well, you must be a conspiracy conspiracy. paris for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions. we're left to ask those questions. go ahead, george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is
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a see change the story of the events of january, the thing. and it reminds me of what happened some point in 2017 with the trump russia story. when debbie nunez suddenly disclosed that the f, b, i, so valence warren of cancer page was based entirely on the steel dos. the a missile, the shocking disclosure and of course, the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x, f, b i. as the absolute nonsense from garrett, this is not how the f b i operate does not the operate. this is total total, other non ford. then we got the inspector general report that pretty much confirmed everything that devin knew. something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news, and then dr. call center,
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and then significantly blend greenville. and it's now really very serious question britches. there are that there are always people mention in the indictments on indicted co conspirators. and then mysterious person, one person to person 3 group for some reason, even even though, according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the events of genuine. for some reason, they haven't been invited. so therefore, the next question is raised to what extent did the f b, i know what was going to happen most areas extent was the f b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those that actually causing that arrive to take place where the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story. and of course, as you say, the legacy media is gone haywire not how can you get these people have
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a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say his name person a ok, how can, but that, that's my, that's my alibi, that's my rooms this is the contact i had with them. no, no, no. the state says you cannot reveal the name that is a kangaroo deem of the thing that is so i think, you know, because so much has happened over the last few years, isn't it? people, again, prior to trump going down the us later, we could buy that is a bench bar as they pick the press and leave a pretence they've been added to the adversarial relationship when the intelligence community with the, with the cia that's hard to today, they are covering up for them every step, the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is terrifying and for people thinking about it, because i mean, i have monitors at work. i see what i'm seeing in and in, but some you say with there are,
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i mean it's all january thinks i mean in their building up to something here. and it looks like there is a major a cover up. we need to learn more. but i mean, this is very, very distracted by the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were, you know, technically, professionally supposed to keep an eye on go ahead demon. well, that's why i call president obama that was president in us history. you know, it was on his watch and, you know, formally he was a democrat, you know, almost 11 just president. it was under his watch that f, b, i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and, and they were questions about elections and about their age, interviews, duplications, it became clear that these people are getting well, there is one point i think, which is important here in our president, would you mention the january c? storage is press one, and i know that some people on the left in the united states to get bad, you know,
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we've had some criticism from people coasting. for example. i think, well, when you mentioned that she was not the right to stand or that have to stand just, it's a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993. you know, that was the last, have been something like january 6 happened in russia. and of course, we don't get very badly when we saw this man, you know, one of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not, you know, was not dressed and in him was probably misbehaving. but he bought in full blood just shot her dad. and there was this video and now people gauge in 1520 years, even though they did not current any one and the almost are not involved in violence. that's why when russia taken it, but it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat,
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you know they, they don't think that way. ok. but georgia being actually babbitt, i mean, you know, when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage and they were told of seen snippets of it as some of it from what i have seen counter contradicts the narrative that the liberal kind of legacy media's betraying of what happened there, but it seems to imply the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. ok. it seems to me that either, you know, they have a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create one because we never find out how actually babbitt died then this whole thing is a bars from beginning to end. yeah, yeah, it really is. and now you mentioned the 14000 hours of footage, we could even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 dependence on not
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getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure that, you know, given the politicization of the d o, j, that if this fort age was really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment, the things that we do see, people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. as you say, they go against the narrative, we get the strange characters bellowing outside, so mechanical storm, a capital. and they will be told by the writers themselves. you know, he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator, why of annapolis and why the bus was saying like, after why ever you've been indicted and then you've got to gain the questions like, what about the lead as a louise white supremacy groups like the proud boys and the keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christopher ray and the other is always going on about how
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come none of the leaders has been. 2 indicted over this, i mean they supposed to take part in those events. so i haven't been that's what's raising all of these suspicions. and then we got the ashley bobbitt, which is we're not even finding out who the person was who shot. and why did he do it? well, what, what i think lean from what people have been saying they know who the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so. okay. but, but the, my, this, this goes to such a bigger, broader point because in the way that the narrative of january 6 is being presented like pearl harbor 911. there isn't full disclosure. there isn't more transparency. there. there will be parallel narratives that will live for a very, very long time. that cannot be reconciled. ok, and this is my biggest worry, and i think it's the media is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it
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is still litigating and judging the trump presidency with a trump resides in their brain and there's nothing they can do about it we we thought with the recent as well. and you know, so when the man leads the stage is take it off of bob warm. he's still the most powerful board in america while they're building this. it's incredible. go ahead. how fast i would like to remind our viewers that on the day one, when it happened, we said on this program that of course, these attack against would not be justified. if it was a crime, it was inexcusable. these people, the other problem, the other question is the reaction of the state and the so called investigation and how all of these turned into and you'll rice, dog fi and, you know, rice, our fire, if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was that dutch call me,
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just indeed would needed, or if he claimed, or maybe it was most likely provocation or not just what happened played, was much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened played that was basically a more boys asian or follow by one g, and we suddenly have 90 percent of us media strongly described by the and not expressions of use over very significant part of the american you ation. and the end, the service consequence is the fact that on part of american paid and the it was not russia who did it, i mean, no way considering the r. i could see george laughing, but you know, the outside forces and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be a drama thing and it's actually and we look at, look at rush gay in corral. the progressives. ok to keep the democratic coalition
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together. they will do where they get their branding, another narrative to corral their bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok, as jo. ain't doing such a great job. ok. at the end of the day, go ahead. george. one minute, you know, question is going to be midterm elections next year at the moment it looks like, you know, we'll look at the backings and history of the democrats. so soft law says we can be absolutely certain that it will be a russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean, it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's and booty said this during is news conference. what is that? well, are you optimistic? it says, well, i don't know, i mean, it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how, what by did this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american
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system. so yeah, there's no question though, or the russian involvement will play a role. but you know, if we do find out that the f b i itself was actively involved in the events of january the 6th. then i think we're into quite a serious ball game and then i think the legacy media will step in and say, this is all a very boring story. let's move on now gentlemen. and one of they might get some good past ad here. and i want to think our viewers been watching us here are the scenic, remember the the, me, i this is your media a reflection of reality. the,
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in the world transformed what will make you feel safer. type relation or community. are you going the right way or are you being somewhere which direction? what is truth? what is in a world corrupted. you need to defend the join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. i expect you to go to college to louis. good. can you just see brother, the know the mean russell but i hope so. but over the over the nation. just motion learning in
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