tv Cross Talk RT June 21, 2021 12:30pm-1:01pm EDT
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unfortunately, one of these variants may bypass vaccines and put us back to square one or a very and that is more severe disease causing in all age groups and younger age groups, etc. so that's where our energies should be immunized, immunize the world. i talked about up antonia senior clinical at the university of exit medical school. we appreciate it. thank you for your time. thank you and thank you for your time as well. i appreciate you joining us for the monday program. my colleague, a union o'neill is here in half an hour's time with more of your stories. the who's who's i
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hello and welcome to cross stock. are all things considered? i'm funeral about the potent bike the summer has come and gone. but bobby's real message on his european tour was who galvanized washington's outlines into some kind of anti china alliance? did he succeed also the january 6th, right the f b. i and the ark of history, me to discuss these issues and more and joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is the podcast or the goggle, which can be found on youtube, grumble, and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at, you know, it's me internet media project or a gentleman cross up rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. okay, that's good to start off with be in my here in moscow as well and team and you and
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i and george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday. and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this program, china. europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that? because i thought it was very interesting. go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that european country, yes, especially germany, which has a huge economic dice, you know, to china and east european countries away. absolutely do not want to have confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese rhetoric and war or chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these countries don't have to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy for many years states that somehow those dates is
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more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some controversy in eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than, than the united states. but they don't want to fight china, and when, at the last the recent need to a meeting sharing that was defacto declared, then anyway, let me quote that china stages envisions and a surgery behavior present. systemic challenges to the rules based international. all the errors relevant to nato security and of course in they don't language. that means chinese name because cool presents systemic chairman, just and also it's a big lie because what way can china throughout the nato? i mean military military and they do as many times stronger than china and chinese located in the completely different part of the world. and china during the last, at least 40 years,
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charlie did not invade dot congress. it did not take any territory under its control. it did not democratize a foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed us, hostile by the, not the states. and certainly reminded me of the situation that, you know, we saw during world war 2. well, now to germany. awful allies in europe, such as equally as such as congress, but just been live. they were not interested in, in the outside. your would. you establishes german, hold on. i mean, fans wanted to take that was, i was really, there is next to that. what they didn't want to take. let me grab, you know, deleon's wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot a site, but they didn't want to die on the whole purpose for many germans, for the beans to participate in the seizure. but any group and germans forced us to
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die. so that when you, when you're surrounded, hostile i go and you're going to, what would you, they got a lot more than they bargained for rules based order. we just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that on the rules based order door. ok, that would be one of the things i wanted to do this george because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden, as president america is back, but well, not everybody wants to, even with it within the, your a p and union within nato. once, once, america, back the way it was before and see what's happening in the way i look at it is, is huge. cleavage is big, it's very small now, but it's going to grow and grow and grow because the us is the master of natal, undoubted, okay, what they want, they get ok. european union is different. ok, you can, you could have this threat. inflation is imaginary threats. we have spent all this money because of the russian threat, but when it comes to e nomics to hear
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a little bit more hard headed and sober. ok. and just as being pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together? and then china is the, the obvious and it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead, george. but don't worry. there are many issues. there's without a question. what will the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. busy so it would be once that adult because you know, thinking about, well, what's the next rent that we can justify but the communicate that was issued, the other day was still basically focused on russia, russia, i mean, the car dropped off the bar about all the terrible thing brushes done, all the terrible press, russia rushes, cheating, rushes violating this and so on. so yes, china is mention, but that comes down to like paragraph, 50 bible, something and the language is much more circumspect. yes, giant
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a challenge. we already have to look up on it, but then the china is cooperating really generally was russia. that's it. that's the point, george. don't you think? i mean it because nature is essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly, but surely there be overkill window all over again. essentially what they want to do, they want to wait china with russia, they want to see them is inseparable. right? actually, the more they do that, no more russia guy will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding ahead. it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules based order. and they even mentioned like, well, china is a challenging the values based washington treaty the treated and set up they so
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so the result. now there's no question the united states sees china as a major geopolitical rival. it's an emerging economic giant. and the united states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become economic or financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. so that will be the end of the dollar us role in the system . so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama much worse on the trunk. you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility towards china. but the europeans, they are essentially regional out there all regionals. they don't think, globally, any, yeah. russia, they can think of up as it was a history there. and of course, as being pointed out in those, all of those states that are absent, rabidly anti russia in the baltic states and poland. but they can't really get wrap their heads around china. i mean, china is nowhere near europe and so it's very hard for them to go along with this. even though the united states,
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the question is trying to push them in this direction. ok. but again, if we make the juxtaposition to the cold war, there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was just, that's one of the conditions here and, but there's no cold war. we can use that term that washington wants to push the europe instore visa be china. well, big china is be use biggest trading partner. okay. and again, we can go about, you know, a breads that are bad and all that. but trade is not a bad, very, very real. okay. and europe, as a company is trying to pull itself out of this. pandemic needs trade. and in china it was very much, well good. they can be both ways the same. what, why do you have to have it both ways to say that when it completely impractical? well, washington keep saying we will make russia pay a price. you know,
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that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made that you pay the price because it wasn't tonight. the stage will impose thanks on sunday and for whom the sanctions are really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no, russia who more billions, you know, at least 100000000000, but most on the, on the, and the russian sanctions in the 1st year, you know, and later there were more and more voices. so they, you will pay the price and what's china that price is going to be several times higher than with russia. but, you know, it's, it's a less than you have to learn from history when he would join an aggressive extremist by doorway. and unfortunately, the people like victoria knew the people like john brandon, they have an extra mistake at the moment when you, you with them you lose,
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you should prepare for huge office all and all of this one night and stage to help them rush. and besides that, that was their idea. they wanted to be strong, you know, with united states because of, okay, the states is behind them and they're not in the states is now canceling. they are possibly what serious deals with china. that's what is happening, you know, and with greece, it's even more, i guess, because greece is very much the with chinese on they sold them on their porch, you know, in greece. so in did is going to be painful. and the problem with this is the price or i don't, i mean, also this is the price of life. i mean, look at way american liberal press covered by the season. you know, i almost woman and washington forced mike's boot by then why this miracle would you space by them knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when he did it much better
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than trump was simply that call it, i mean, whole idea of present in by the median as some kind of a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to the left. you know, that's so stupid. but that was the, the main thing with the media and the last 2 weeks. yeah, i mean, john, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rice for the babylon b or the onion because i read the article. thank you. game of presenting to me is completely satirical. i mean, if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joe, right? yeah, yeah. well i think the, the big like mag boots have a problem on their hands. they spent the last 5 years making these claims that trump is a trade the trump is selling out. the country trump is working in trump is trees in the any, any just go buy from toward russia even even what he's imposing sanctions. we're
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where he's picking out. diplomats is really secretly applaud by the throw us off the sand so that they've been battling this by now they have bite and then you know, they rejoice from the to be or is there any being friendly as the russians than truckload? double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it's ok when biting . does it terrible when in front of it. so in the last 25. thank you george. if trumpet had the same exact summit with he would be a traitor. by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader. if it's the ex boot, this actually show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to american foreign policy. it's all about their perceptions and the echo lima,
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ah, me always be polite, never engage with an aggravated or confrontational office. don't get into any conversation to start answering questions. just ask for an attorney to survive and interrogation. you've gotta be ready. you're definitely don't want to be going to trial in the jump suit, one cups. you're more likely to walk free. if you're rich and guilty, you are. if you're poor and you got 2 eyes and 2 ears and one mouth.
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so you should be seeing and hear and a whole lot more than you're saying. if you don't take that advice, usually going to dig yourself a whole welcome back to process. are all things considered? i, if you don't live else remind you, we're discussing some real news and this is the home addition. the alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because it's slowly but surely being revealed, as we broached the january 6 trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of unnamed co conspirators and well people wondering, hire their names redacted and is it because they had contact with the authorities
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to be f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. but what's even more troubling is that the legacy liberal, liberal media points to the bank? are you saying where you might be a conspiracy conspiracy? there is for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions where left to ask those questions? go ahead. george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is a southern c chain, the story of the events of january the same. and it reminds me of what happened some point in 2017, with the trump russia story. when debbie nunez suddenly disclosed that the f, b, i so valence warren of caught the page, was based entirely on the steel dossier. missiles are shocking disclosure and of course the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x f
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b i is the absolute nonsense transfer garrett. this is not how the f b i operates, does not the operate, this is total and then we got the inspector general report. pretty much confirmed everything that devin noon. there's something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news and then call some to get out and the significant glen green will look this up. and it's now really very serious question, which is there are that there are always people mention in the indictments. i'm invited co conspirators and then mysterious person, one person to person 3, group. some reason, even though, even though according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the event of genuine for some reason they haven't been invited. so therefore, the next question is raised to what extent did the f b, i know what was going to happen, who you are most. there's a good extent was the f
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b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those and in actually causing that arrive to take place. whereas the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story. and of course, as you say, the legacy immediate is gone haywire not how can you get these people have a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say is name person a ok. how? but that, that's my, that's my alibi, that's my rooms. this is the contact i had them. no, no, no. the state says you cannot. we build a name that is a kangaroo or diem of the thing that is so i think you know, because so much has happened over the last few years, isn't it? people again, that prior to trump going down the us later, we could buy that is a benchmark as they pick the, the press had emily, a pretense they've been added to the adversarial relationship when the intelligence
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community with the, you know, with the cia fast forward to today, they are covering up for them every step of the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is terrifying and for people thinking about it because i mean, i have monitors at work. i see what i'm seeing in and in, but somebody said with their off, i mean it's all january thinks, i mean if they're building up to something here and it looks like there is a major cover up, we need to learn more. but i mean, this is very, very distracted by the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were, you know, technically, professionally supposed to go ahead demon. well, that's why i call the president obama, the worst president in us history. you know, it was on his watch and, you know, for many, he was a democrat, you know, almost just president, it was under his watch that f, b, i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and,
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and they were questioned about elections and about their agent use to patients. it became clear that these people are there at one point i think, which is important here in our president. would you mention the january c store? it is press one, and i know that. so people on the left in the united states took it back. we've had some criticism from peter coasting, for example. i think, well, you mentioned that he was not think you know, the right to stand or that have to stand just it's a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993, you know, that was the last time and something like january 6 in russia. and of course we do it very badly when we saw this man. you know, a lot of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not, you know, was not drafted in him, was probably misbehaving,
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but he called bar in full blood just shot her dad. a and there was this video and now people gauge in 1520 years, even though they did not current anyone and almost are not involved in violence. that's why people rush out, they can embed it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat, you know they, they don't think that way. ok, the bit georgia mean actually, babbitt, i mean, you know, when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage and they were told we've seen snippets of it. and some of it from what i have seen the counter contradicts the narrative that the liberal of legacy media's betraying of what happened there. but it seems to imply the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. okay. it seems to me that either, you know, they have a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create
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one because we never find out how ashley. but babbitt died then this whole thing is a bars from beginning to end. yeah. yeah, it really is. and now you mentioned the 14000 hours of footage, we could even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 dependence on not getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure that, you know, given the politicization of the d o, j, that if this port age was really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment, the things that we do see, people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. as you say, they go against the narrative, we get the strange characters bellowing outside, so mechanical storm, a capital. and they will be told by the writers themselves. you know,
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he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator. why, of annapolis and why the bus was things like after why ever he'd been indicted and then you've got to gain the questions like, what about the lead as a louise white supremacist groups like the proud boys and the keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christopher ray and the other is always going on about how come none of the leaders has been indicted over this? i mean they supposed to take part in those events. so i haven't been backwards raising all of the suspicion all of these suspicions. and then we got the ashley bobbitt, which is we're not even finding out who the person was, who shot that. and why did he do it? well, what, what i think lean from what people have been saying they know who the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so. okay. but, but the, my, this, this goes to such a bigger, broader point. because in the way that the narrative of january 6th is being
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presented like pearl harbor $911.00. there isn't ball disclosure, there isn't. and parents see it there. there will be parallel narratives that will live for a very, very long time. that cannot be reconciled. ok, and this is my biggest worry, and i think that it's the media that is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it is still litigating and judging the trump presidency with a trump resides in their brain. and there's nothing they can do about a we, we thought with the recent some as well. and, you know, so when the man leaves the stage is take it off of bob on. he's still the most powerful force in america while they're building this. it's incredible. go ahead, how fast i would like to remind our viewers that on the day one, when it happened, we said on this program that of course,
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these attack against would not be justified. if it was a crime which was inexcusable. what these people did. the other problem, the other question is the reaction of the state and the so called investigation and how all of these turned into and you're right, stuck fire, you know, right. start fire if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was that dutch call me, just indeed would needed, or if he claimed, or maybe it was most likely a presentation on the not just what happened played was much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened played that was basically a molar boys is no follow by one g and we suddenly have 90 percent of us media strongly described by the and not expressions of us over very significant part of the american you ation. and the end, the service consequence is the fact that on part of american hates and the,
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it was not russia. who did it. i mean, you know, away centering the r. i could be george laughing, but you know, the outside board is and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be a drama thing and it's actually and we look at, look at rush gay, did it corral the progressives. ok, to keep the democratic coalition together. they will do where they get their finding another narrative to corral their give, bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok, as jo. ain't doing such a great job. ok. at the end of the day. go ahead. george. one minute, you know, question is going to be midterm elections next year at the moment it looks like, you know, look at the back of history, the democrats will suffer losses. we can be absolutely certain that it will be
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russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean, it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's, and boot is that the during is news conference. what is that? well, are you optimistic? it says, well, i don't know. i mean, it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how, what by did this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american system. so yeah, there's no question though, or the russian involvement will play a role. but you know, if we do find out that the f b, i itself was actively involved in the events of january the 6th, then i think we're into quite a serious ball game. and then i think the legacy media will step in and say, this is all a very boring story. let's move on gentlemen, and want to get some good past ad here. and i want to think our viewers watching us here are the scenic, remember the ah
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