the ah ah ah ah, ah hello and welcome to cross doctor all things considered. i'm peter lavelle. the poor, biting summit has come and gone, but bodies real message on his european tour with the galvanized washington's allies into some kind of anti china alliance. did he succeed also the january 6, right? the f b i and the arc of history me

to discuss these issues and more and joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is the podcast to read the goggle, which can be found on youtube, grumble, and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at me, internet media project, or a gentleman cross off rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to start off with be here in moscow as well and team and you george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday. and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this program, china, europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that that it was very interesting. go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that european countries, especially germany, which has a huge economic dice. you know,

to china at east european countries away. sure, absolutely. do not want to have a confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese rhetoric and war, chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these countries don't have to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy, for many years states that somehow the states is more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some controversy in eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than, than the united states. but they don't want to fight china. and when, at the last, the recent need to a meeting sharing that was the fact to declare the name me. let me quote that china stated the patient and the surgery of behavior present. systemic jenny just are the rules based international or the as errors relevant to natal security and of course

in they don't language that means chinese and him because cool presents david chad and just and also it's a big lie because in what way can china throughout the nato military, military, and they do as many times stronger than china and chinese, located in the completely different part of the world. and china, during the last, at least 40 years, china did more than baydar the congress. it did not take any territory under its control. it did not do more critize, a foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed us, hostile by the states. and certainly reminded me of the situation that, you know, we saw during world war 2. well, now to germany. awful allies in europe, such as easily as such as congress, but just been them they were interested in,

in the outside your would you and then establishing german hold on. i mean, feels want to take that was, i was really, there is next to them, but they didn't want to take plenty of crap. you know, it deleon's wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot to side. but they didn't want to die on the won't problems for the insurance, for the beans to participate in the seizure, but any group and germans forced us to die. yes. so when you, when you're surrounded, hostile i go and you're going to, what would you say got a lot more than they bargained for rules based order. we just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that down the rules based ordered tour. ok, that would be one of the things i wanted to do this george, because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden is present. america is back. well, not everybody wants it. even with it within the, your a,

p and union within nato. once, once, america, back the way it was before and see what's happening in the way i look at it is, is huge. cleavage is big. it's very small now, but it's going to grow and grow, grow because the us is the master of nato undoubted. okay. what they want they get . okay. europe in union is different. ok, you can, you can have this threat. inflation is imaginary threat. you know, we have spent all this money because of the russian threat. but when he comes, he cannot mix here a little bit more hard headed and sober. okay. and just as demon pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together? and then china is the, the obvious and it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead, george. there are many issues. there's without question, what will the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. so it would be one step ahead of because, you know,

thinking about the next, the right that we can just by our continued existence. but the communicate that was issued, the other day was still basically focused on russia, russia, i mean, the paragraph off the bar about all the terrible thing brushes done, all the terrible press, russia rushes, cheating, russia, violating this and so on. so yes, china is mentioned, but that comes down to like paragraph, 50 bible, something and the language is much more circumspect. you know? yes, giant, a challenge really have to look up on it. but then the china is cooperating really generally with russia. that's the point. george, don't you think? i mean, because nature is essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly but surely there, it's the overkill window all over again. essentially what they want to do is they want to wait china with russia. they want to see them is inseparable.

the more they do that no more russia guy will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding. well, go ahead. it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules based order. and they even mentions of like, well, china is challenging the values based washington treaty treat, setup so so there is a, now there's a question. the united states sees china as a major geopolitical rival. it's an emerging economic giant, and the united states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become the economic or financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. that will be the end of the dollar's role in the well system . so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama much worse on the trunk. you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility towards, but the europeans,

they are essentially a regional. how they're all regionals. they don't think, globally, any, yeah. russia, they can think about, but there was a history there. and of course, as dba, pointed out them in those, all of those states that are absent, rabidly anti russian in the baltic states and poland. but they can't really get wrapped their heads around china. i mean, china is nowhere near europe. and so it's very hard for them to go along with this, even though the united states. but our question is trying to push them in this direction. you know, again, if we make the jets musicians to the cold war, there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was just as one of the conditions here and, but there's no call more. we can use that term that washington wants to push the european store visa be china. well, they, china is b use biggest trading partner. ok. again, we can go about, you know,

a breads that are bad and all that. but trade is not a very bad, a real ok. and europe, as a company is trying to pull itself out of this. pandemic needs trade. and in china, it was very much, well good. they can be both ways the same. what, why do you have to have it both ways to say that mean and completely impractical? well, washington keep saying we will make russia pay the price. you know, that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made that you pay the price because it wasn't tonight the stage to impose sanctions on russia and for whom these sections are really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no, russia who more billions, you know, at least 100000000000, but most on the, on the, and the russian sanctions in the 1st year, you know,

and later there are more and more sense so that you will pay the price. and what's china that price is going to be several times higher than with russia. but you know, it's a less than you have to learn from history when he would join and chris, you, extremist by george and unfortunately, the people i don't know, the people don't. brandon, they have an extremist, i go to the moment when you use with them, you lose, you should prepare for huge osis, poland, or via the what the night stage to help them rush. besides that, that was their idea. they wanted to be strong, you know, with united states because of, okay, they're not, the space is behind them. and they're not, the states is now canceling. they are plus, you believe what serious deals with china. that's what is happening. you know, and when greece, it's a moral guess because greece is very much the with chinese going on. they sold them

all their ports, you know, in greece. so in did is going to be painful. and the problem is that this is the price or i don't, i mean, also this is the price of life. i mean, look at way american liberal press, got it. you know, i almost woman and washington post max boot by the why, the rural kofuji space, by the knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when he did it much better than trump seem, but then call it. i mean, the whole idea of present in by the which and meeting us some kind of a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to last. you know, they're so stupid. but that was the, the main thing was the media and the last 2 weeks. i mean, sure, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rice for the babylon. b or the onion because i read the article. thank you . deem presenting to me. it's completely satirical. i mean,

if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joke, right? yeah, yeah. well i think the, the probably the people like mag boot have a problem on their hands. they spent the last. 1 5 years, making these claims that trump is a trade, the trump is selling out the country. trump is working in trump is trees in the any, any just by from toward russia even even what he's imposing sanctions. he, we're ready picking out. diplomats is really secretly applaud by the throw us off the same so that they've been battling this 5 years now. they have, by the man, you know, they rejoice the something to be or is there any being friendly as the russians than truckload, double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it's ok when biden

does it, but it's terrible when in front of it so in the last $25.00. thank you george. if trumpet had the same exact summit with he would be a traitor. by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader. if it's direct boot does actually show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to the american foreign policy. it's, it's all about their perceptions and the echo lima, their ideology. i gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break book in the, in our discussion and some real stay ah ah, ah,

ah, ah, join me every thursday on the alex silent shore and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. me the welcome at the cross type where all things are considered. peter lavelle trim and you were discussing some real news and this is the home edition. the

alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because it's slowly but surely being revealed as we approached the january 6 trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of unnamed co conspirators and, well people are wondering, hire their names redacted and is it because they had contact with the authorities of the f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. but what's even more troubling is that the legacy libra liberal media points of bank. are you saying where you might be a conspiracy conspiracy? there's for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions. we're left to ask those questions. go ahead, george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is a southern sea change in the story of the events of january,

the thing. and it reminds me of what happened some point in 2017 was the trump russia story when debbie nunez suddenly disclosed that the f, b. i. so valence warren of casa page, was based entirely on the steel dos. the a missile, the shocking disclosure and of course, the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x f b i is the actual nonsense from garrett. this is not how the f b, i operates the operate. this is total total utter nonsense. then we got the inspector general report them. pretty much confirmed everything that devin noon. there's something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news and then call them to get out and then significantly blend. greenwald. and it's now really very serious question,

which is there are that there are always people mention in the indictments on indicted co conspirators. and then mysterious person, one person to person 3 group for some reason. even even though, according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the events of julia. for some reason they haven't been invited. so therefore the next question is race. to what extent did the f b i know what was going to happen, who you are most there is it to her extent was the f b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those that actually causing that arrive to take place where the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story. and of course as you say, the legacy media is gone haywire. how can you get these people have a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say is name person a ok. how?

but that, that's my, that's my alibi. that's my rooms. this is the contact i had the no, no, no, the state says you cannot reveal the name that is a kangaroo or demon the. the thing that is so i think, you know, because so much of happened over the last few years, isn't it? people again, prior to try going down the us later, we could buy that is a benchmark as a depressed had and lee, a pretense of an advert. adversarial relationship when the intelligence community with the yeah, with the cia that's hard to today. they are covering up for them every step of the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is terrifying and for people thinking about it because i mean, i have monitors at work i see as being in and in. but some you saying there are, i mean it's all january thinks i mean in and they're building up to something here . and it looks like there is a major a cover up, we need to learn more. but i mean,

this is very, very distracted by the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were, you know, technically, professionally supposed to keep an eye on go ahead dimmer. well, that's why i call president obama that was president in us history. you know, it was on his watch and, you know, formally he was a democrat, you know, almost just president, it was on the watch that f, b, i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and, and they were questions about elections and about their agent use to patients, it became clear that these people are there is one point i think, which is important here in our president. would you mention the january c? storage is press one and i know that. so people on the left in the united states took it back. we've had some criticism from peter coasting, for example. i think,

well, when you mentioned it, he was not the right to stand or that have to stand just it's a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993. you know, that was the last, have been something like january 6 happened in russia. and of course it will be very badly. well, we saw this man, you know, a lot of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not, you know, was not threatening him, was probably misbehaving, but he called bar in full blood just shot her dad. and there was this video, and now people gaten 1520 years, even though they did not current any one and the almost are not involved in violence. that's why you, when russia taken it, but it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat, you know they, they don't think that way. ok, been george. i mean, actually,

babbitt, i mean, you know, when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage and they were told we've seen snippets of it. and some of it from what i have seen the counter contradicts the narrative that the liberal of legacy media's betraying of what happened there. but it seems the end plus the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. okay. it seems to me that either, you know, they have a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create one because we never find out how actually babbitt died then this whole thing is borrowed from beginning to end. yeah, yeah. it really is and now you mentioned the 14000 hours of footage, we could even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 dependence on not getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure that, you know,

given the politicization of the d o, j, that if this port age was really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment, the things that we do see, people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. they go against the narrative, we get the strange characters bellowing outside, so mechanical storm, a capital. and they will be told by the writers themselves. you know, he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator. why, of annapolis and why the bus was things like after why ever you've been indicted and then you've got to gain the questions like, what about the lead of the louise white supremacist groups like the proud boys and the keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christopher ray and the other is always going on about how can none of the leaders has been indicted over this? i mean they supposed to take part in those events. so i haven't been backwards

raising all of these suspicions. and then we got the ashley bobbitt, which is we're not even finding out who the person was, who shot that. and why did he do it? well, what, what i think lean from what people have been saying they know what the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so, but, but the, my, this, this goes to a bigger, broader point. because in the way that the narrative of january 6th being present in pearl harbor at $911.00. there isn't ball disclosure. there isn't all transparency there. there will be parallel narratives that will live for a very, very long time. that cannot be reconciled. ok, and this is my biggest worry, and i think it's the media that is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it is still litigating and judging the trump presidency of

a trump resides in their brain and there's nothing they can do about it. we, we thought with the recent some as well. and you know, so when the man leaves the stage is take it off of bob warm. he's still the most powerful board in america while they're building this. it's incredible. go ahead. how fast i would like to remind our viewers that on the day one, when it's happened, we said on this program that of course these attack against would not be justified . if it was a crime which was inexcusable. what these people did. the other problem, the other question is the reaction of the state and the so called investigation and how all of these turned into and you're right, stuck fire, you know, right. our fire, if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was that dutch call me, just indeed would needed, or if he claimed,

or maybe it was most likely a presentation on the not just what happened played was much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened play that was basically, a molar, boys, asian or follow by one party and we suddenly have 90 percent of us media strongly described by the and not expressions of us over very significant part of the american you ation. and the end, the service consequence is the fact the mom part of american hates and the, it was not russia who did it. i mean, you know, way better in the r i could see george laughing, but you know, they're outside forces and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be a drama. and it's actually, and we look at, look at rush gay in corral, the progressives. ok to keep the democratic coalition together, they will do where they get their branding. another narrative to corral their give,

bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok, as jo. ain't doing such a great job. ok at the end of the day, go ahead to one minute. you know, question is going to be midterm elections next year at the moment it looks like, you know, we'll look at backings and history. the democrats will suffer losses. we can be absolutely certain that it will be a russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's, and boot is that the during is news conference ways that well, are you optimistic? it says, well, i don't know, i mean, it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how, what by did this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american system. so yeah, there's no question though, or the russian involvement will play a role. but if we do find out that the f

b i itself was actively involved in the events of january the 6th. then i think we're into quite a serious ball game. and then i think the legacy media will step in and say, this is all a very boring story. let's move on gentlemen. and one of my get some good pets and here and i want to think our viewers the watching us here are the scenic remember the ah, so to to quit cali city for good can each other than the human russell? i hope so. but over the over the book or just sort of the motion learning a lot of stories going

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