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i hello and welcome to cross stock. are all things considered? i'm peter lavelle. the pollutant biking summit has come and gone by the real message on his european tour with his galvanized washington's outlines into some kind of anti china alliance. did he succeed also the january 6th, right? the f b i and the arc of history me to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, some you all we in budapest, he is the podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube, grumble, and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobby. she is a political analyst and editor at me, internet media project, or a gentleman,

cross, capitals and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, that's good to start off with being here in moscow as well and team and you and i and george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday. and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this program, china. europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that it was very interesting? go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that european country, yes, especially german, you, which has a huge economic dice, you know, to china at east european countries away. sure, absolutely. do not want to have a confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese rhetoric and war, chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these because all has to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was

a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy for many years states that somehow those dates is more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some controversy in eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than, than the united states. but they don't want to fight china and when, at the last the recent need to a meeting sharing, that was the fact to declare that anymore. let me quote that china stated the patients and the surgery of behavior present. systemic jenny, just to the rules based international or the as errors relevant to nato security. and of course in they don't language that means chinese and him because cool presents to stay with chad and just and also it's a big lie because in what way can china throughout the nato military military. and they do as many times stronger than china and chinese,

located in the completely different part of the world. and china, during the last, at least 40 years, china did more than baydar the congress. it did not take any territory under its control. it did not do more critize, a foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed us, hostile by the states. and certainly reminded me of the situation that, you know, we saw during world war 2. well, nancy, germany had awful allies in europe such as easily as such as congress, but just been them. they were more interested in the outside your would you and then establishing german hold on. i mean, fans wanted to take better care really. there is next to them, but they didn't want to take learning crap. you know, it deleon's wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot a site, but they didn't want to. i won't force them any germans for the beans to

participate in procedure, but any group and germans forced us to die. so that when you, when you're surrounded, hostile i go and you're going to, what would you say got a lot more than they bargained for rules based order. we just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that down the rules based ordered tour ok. now, one of the things i wanted to do this george, because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden is present. america is back. well, not everybody wants it, even with it within the, your a, p and union within nato. once, once, america, back the way it was before and see what's happening in the way i look at it is huge . cleavage is big. it's very small now, but it's going to grow and grow, grow because the us is the master of nato undoubted. okay. what they want they get . okay. europe in union is different. ok, you can,

you could have this threat. inflation is imaginary threat. you know, we have spent all this money because of the russian threat. but when it comes that you cannot mix here a little bit more hard headed and sober, okay. and just as demon pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together? and then china is the, the obvious and it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead, george. right? no, i think there are many issues. there's without question. what will the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. so it would be one step ahead of because, you know, thinking about, well, what's the next grant that we can justify continued existence, but the communicate that was issued, the other day was still basically focused on russia, russia, i mean, the paragraph off the bar about all the terrible thing brushes done. 4 all the terrible press, russia, rushes, cheating, rush, violating this and so on. so yes,

china is mentioned, but that comes down to like paragraph, 50 bible, something. and the language is much more circumspect. you know? yes, giant, a challenge really have to look up on it. but then the china is cooperating really generally with russia. that's it. that's the point, george. don't you think? i mean it because nature is essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly but surely there, it's the overhead window all over again. getting essentially what they want to do is they want to wait china with russia, they want to see them is inseparable. the more they do that no more russia guy will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding. well, it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules based order. and they even mentioned like, well, china is

a challenging the values based washington treated the trigger that setup so so there is a, now there's a question, the united states, these china as a major geopolitical rival. it's an emerging economic giant. and the united states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become the economic or financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. that will be the end of the us role in the well system. so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama much worse on the trunk. you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility to china. but the europeans, they are essentially a regional. how they're all regionals. they don't think, globally, i mean, yeah. russia, they can think about, but there was a history there. and of course as dba, pointed out in those, all of those states that are absent, rabidly anti russian in the baltic states and poland. so they can't really get wrap their heads. china, i mean,

china is nowhere near europe and so it's very hard for them to go along with this. even though the united states black question is trying to push them in this direction. you know, again, if we make the juxtaposition to the cold war, there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was just as one of the conditions here and, but there's no call more. we can use that term that washington wants to push the european store visa be china. well, they, china is be use biggest trading partner. ok. again, we can go about, you know, a breads that are bad and all that. but trade is not a very bad a real ok. and europe as a company is trying to pull itself out of this. pat demik needs tray and china was very much well good. they can be both ways the same. what, why do you have to have it both ways at the same time and completely impractical?

well, washington keep saying we will make russia pay a price. you know, that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made that you pay the price because it wasn't the stage to impose sanctions on russia and for whom these sections are really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no, russia who more billions, you know, at least bunker to billions for most on the, on the, and the russian sanctions in the 1st year, you know, and later there were more and more horses so that you will pay the price. and with china, that price is going to be several times higher than with russia. but you know, it's a lesson you have to learn from history when he would join and chris you, extremist by george. and unfortunately the people, i think dora knew the people john brandon, they have an extremist,

i go to the moment when you use with them your rules, you should prepare for huge osis, poland, or is the one night stage to help them rush. besides that, that was their idea. they wanted to be strong, you know, with united states because of, okay, they were not the space behind them. and the night the states is now canceling. they are plus, you believe what serious deals with china. that's what is happening. you know, and with greece, it's a moral guess because greece is bay very much the with chinese, economically. they sold them all their ports, you know, in greece. so indeed it's going to be painful. and the problem is that this is the price or ideology. i mean, also this is the price of flights. i mean, look at the way american liberal press got it. you know, i almost woman and washington post max boot biden wiped the smoke off in

space by them, knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when she did it much better than trump was seen, but then call it, i mean, the whole idea of present in by the media has some kind of a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to last. you know, they're so stupid. but that was the, the main thing was the media in the last 2 weeks. yeah. i mean, sure, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rights for the babylon. b or the onion because i read the article. thank you. deem presenting to me is completely satirical. i mean, if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joke, right? yeah, yeah, well i think the, the big like mag boot have a problem on their hands. they spent the last. 1 5 years, making these claims that trump is a trade, the trump is selling out the country. trump is working in trump is trees in

the any, any just by from toward russia even even what he's imposing sanctions. he, we're ready picking out diplomats is really secretly applaud bye to throw us off the sand so that they've been battling this by now they have bite and then you know, they rejoice something to be or is there any being friendly as the russians than truckload? double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it. okay. when biting does it's terrible when in front of it. so in the last 25. thank you george . if trumpet had the same exact summit with he would be a traitor. by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader. if it's direct boot does actually

show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to american foreign policy. it's, it's all about their perceptions and echo lima. their ideology. i gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break book in the, in our discussion and some real estate or d, r. o i i, i need me ah,

ah, i use join me every 1st day on the alex simon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then me the welcome to the cross type where all things are considered. peter lavelle trim and you were discussing some real news and this is the home edition. the

alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because it slowly but surely being revealed as we approached the january 6 trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of unnamed co conspirators and well people are wondering higher their names, reacted, and is it because they had contact with the authorities of the f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. what was even more troubling is that the legacy liberal, liberal media points of bank? are you saying? well, you might be a conspiracy conspiracy. there is for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions. we're left to ask those questions. go ahead, george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is a sub see change in the story of the events of january, the thing. and it reminds me of what happened. some point in 2017 was the trump

russia story when debbie nunez suddenly disclosed that the f, b. i. so valence warren of casa page, was based entirely on the steel dos. the a missile, the shocking disclosure and of course, the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x f b. i is the absolute nonsense from garrett. this is not how the f b, i operates the operate. this is total total, utter nonsense. then we got the inspector general report them pretty much confirmed everything that, that in newness. so something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news and then call them to get out and then significantly blend, greenwald up. and it's now really very serious question, which is there are that there are always people mention in the indictments on

indicted co conspirators. and then mysterious person, one person to person 3 group for some reason. even though, even though, according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the events of julia. for some reason they haven't been invited. so therefore the next question is race. to what extent did the f b i know what was going to happen, who you are most there is a extent was the f b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those that actually causing that arrive to take place. whereas the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story. and of course, as you say, the legacy of media is gone haywire. how can you get these people have a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say is name person a ok. how people. but that, that's my, that's my alibi. that's my rooms. this is the contact i had with them. no, no,

no. the state says you cannot reveal the name that is a kangaroo or demon the thing that is so i think, you know, because so much has happened over the last few years, isn't it? people, again, prior to trump going down the us later, we could buy that is a benchmark as a depressed had and li, a pretense of an advert. adversarial relationship when the intelligence community with the yeah, with the cia that's hard to today. they are covering up for them every step, the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is terrifying and for people thinking about it because i mean, i have monitors at work. i see what i'm seeing in and then, but somebody saying there are, i mean it's all january thinks i mean in their building up to something here. and it looks like there is a major a cover up. we need to learn more. but i mean, this is very,

very district where the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were, you know, technically, professionally supposed to keep an eye on. go ahead. well, that's why i call president obama that was president in us history. you know, it was on his watch and, you know, formally he was a democrat, you know, almost just president, it was on the watch that f, b, i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and, and they were questioned about elections and about their agent years to patients, it became clear that these people are there as well when i think which is important here in our president, would you mention the january c? storage is press one and i know that. so people on the left in the united states took it back. we've had some criticism from peter coasting, for example, i think well, which i mentioned it, he was not the right to stand or that have to stand just it's

a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993. you know, that was the last, have been something like january 6 in russia. and of course, it will be very badly when we saw this man, you know, one of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not, you know, was not draft and you know, was probably misbehaving. but he called bar in full blood, just shot her dad. and there was this video and now people gate and 1520 years, even though they did not current anyone and the almost are not involved in violence . that's why you've been russia taken it, but it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat, you know they, they don't think that way. ok, been george. i mean, actually, babbitt, i mean, you know when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage and they were told we've seen snippets of

it. and some of it from what i have seen the counter contradicts the narrative, bit the liberal of legacy medias portraying of what happened there. but it seems the end plus the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. okay. it seems to me that either, you know, they have a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create one because we never find out how actually babbitt died then this whole thing is bars from beginning to end. yeah, yeah. it really is and now you mentioned that the 14000 hours of footage, we could even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 defendants and not getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure, you know, given the politicization of the d o, j,

that if the 14 wasn't really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment, the things that we do see people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. you say they go against the narrative, we get strange characters, bellowing outside. so mcgonigal storm a capital. and they are being told by the writers themselves. you know, he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator. why? of a map of why the bus was saying, look after, why ever you been it. and then you got again, the question is like, what about the lead is always white supremacist groups like the proud boys and the keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christopher ray and the other is always going on about how can none of the leaders has been indicted over this, i mean they supposed to take part in those events. so i haven't been backwards raising all of the suspicions. and then we got the ashley bobbitt,

which is we're not even finding out who the person was who shot that. and why did he do it from what, from what i think lean from what people have been saying. they know when the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so but, but the, my, this, this goes to a bigger, broader point because in the way that the narrative of january thinks, being presented like pearl harbor 911. there isn't ball disclosure, there isn't more transparency. there. there will be parallel narratives that will live for a very, very long time. the can not be reckoned sign ok, and this is my biggest worry and the, it's the media is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it is still litigating and judge, the trump presidency of a trump resides in their brain and there's nothing they can do about it we,

we thought with the recent some as well. and you know, so when the man leave the stage is taken off of blackboard, he's still the most powerful boston american brother building. it's incredible. go ahead. how fast i would like to remind our viewers that the one that they want when it's happened. we said on this program that of course base attack against would not be justified. it was a crime, it was inexcusable. what these people did, the other problem. the other question is the reaction, all the state and the soul old investigation and how all of these turned into and you're right, stuck fire? you know, right. our fire, if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was the dutch or mean, yes indeed would needed, or if he claimed, or maybe it was most likely presentation on the not just what happened played was

much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened play that was basically a molar, boys, asian or follow by one party and we suddenly have 19 percent of us media strongly described by the and not expressions of us over very significant part of them. very, you ation and the end, the service call sequence is the fact that on part of american hates and it was not russia who did it. i mean, you know, away considering the r i could be george laughing, but you know, they're outside forces and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be in trauma. and it's actually, and we look at, look at russia, gay, did it corral? the progressives. ok, to keep the democratic coalition together, they will do where they get their branding. another narrative to corral. there didn't bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok. as jo ain't

doing such a great job. ok at the end of the day, go ahead to one minute before we finish. no question. there's going to be midterm elections next year. at the moment it looks like, you know, we'll look at the bathrooms in history. the democrats will suffer losses. we can be absolutely certain that it will be a russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean, it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's and boot is that the during is news conference ways that well, are you optimistic? i mean, it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how what by this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american system. so yeah, there's no question though, or the russian involvement will play a role. but you know, if we do find out that the f b i itself was actively involved in the events of january the 6th. then i think

we're into a serious ball game and then i think the legacy media will step in and say, this is all a very boring story. let's move on that note gentlemen, and one of my get some good it has. and here in last i want to think he was watching us. here are the scenic, remember the me i choose with

ah, bill us is really nice. i was a potential losing the city. i jeopardize sure thing. they mean them. so me push has a similar is up on the spectrum to closure and he's pretty good news rather than the person who function was it was a choice community on that.