i dime action returns and welcome to going undergo with a new look and feel and having the stories and perspectives buried by the powerful coming up in the show. palestine is still the issue as hospital schools and information itself is targeted by u. k. u, as in the you nation weaponry and gaza, we speak to legend refill, make a john pilcher about the double standards of power and the death of all his journalism from palestine to china. all this more coming up in today's special edition of going underground. palestine is still the issue, the title of a sequel 20. 0, to fill my legendary journal until make a job build yours a sentiment seemingly unheeded bicycles, mainstream media, even when the offices of nature nation journalists bombed by the u. k. u. s. a. u armed israeli military, joining me from sidney is john pilcher. john, thanks so much for coming on the show. you said the power side is the issue in the last century and in this century,

how does it link everything from war and peace atrocities, imperialism information to neoliberalism? will power find the center of, of a great imperial act. i've made 2 films called palestine is still issue 28 years apart. i may make another one. it will be cold, pell assigned this to leave true. because palestine, unless we understand the atrocity being imposed on palestine and the right of people to defend themselves, the right of people to resist against an external outside force, a force. but it becomes more extreme by the moment and i'm talking about israel. they will never understand how the world works has been a whole attempt to make him out of central issue of the reporting. and that's

nonsense. hamas is a peculiar demon. in fact, hum, hum. our son is military wing, a part of a resistance, a resistance, but was provoked by the israeli is the real team and this is his israel, but it's not simply israel. i mean, this is as much a british and american war against palestine as it is. and israeli one who know just a few years ago the chief of the defense staff in britain. so nick carter visited israel and between himself and the senior israeli strategist, they drawer up, drew up basically a secret plan, a partnership and military partnership between israel and britain. in fact,

that goes much deeper than that it's, it's just, it's an integration of the 2 military forces where you have israelis being trained in, in ordinance design in britain ordinance design as bombs and british soldiers is being trained in, in with, with, with units that have been as p d f describe as palestinian tested. so the, the, the integration of britain and especially the united states with, which gives israel $10000000.00 a day is, is complete. so it is in one sense, it's a british european american war against the people of palestine who are doing one thing. and that is refusing, exercising the moral and legal right to resist

a brutal occupation. britain says it's a friend of israel, you know, the 2 sides ism that he's mandated under broadcasting restrictions as it were here. because obviously when you are talking about a draw cities, as we know, israel says the responsibility lies with hamas. it is using civilians as human shields among journalists, schools, and homes. and they gave fair warning and dominant grab the foreign secretary here says the u. k condemns amounts. attacks on civilians and reaffirms israel's right to self defense. well, right fine. i should, you had to say that, but there are not 2 sides and actually did a very notion of to size is obscene. it's like people looking up at german bombs during the blitz since i got. but there's 2 sides here. you know, the, the, the, the palestinians have crewed rockets and when they're accused of indiscriminate

chelly. yes. the rockets accrued but on the other hand, israel is doing discriminant targeting it's, it's, it's, it's been deliberately attacking as a toys on civilian targets. and we have the spectacle, the other day of a high rise building in which the, the, the media, almost all palestinian, certainly non western media. we, we had the spectacle of this building being blown up by the israelis with the nonsensical story that it was harboring her mouth. it was and, and all those journals, there are witnesses that it's like the babies have report to germany, poet who talks about a war between israel and her mouth. bowen knows that it's wrong. it's an attack on

unoccupied people by the occupier. israel, back by great powers. do you think lees journalists? you mentioned jeremy bo in the middle east, editor of the state mandated b, b. c, who had to apologize previously being pro palestine in his report. and you think they understand that firing stung grenades into the alex and mosque on the equivalent of christmas eve is like doing that to the vatican on christmas eve. i mean, it was either it's a bit like that, bombing the vatican, or sending the soldiers into the vatican. well, if they don't know, what are they doing out there? i mean, you don't actually have to be in the holy land to understand that the provocation, the attack on palestinians, and the, the attack on, on, on the holy a small skin in, in, in islam was entirely unprovoked. and the, the fact that, and hum off

a warn the israelis stop these attacks on our people in jerusalem. stop them now or we will resist. and so they resisted as every people has a right to do. so. western media, you know where of a garza yes, there are a lot of palestinian turn was risking their lives. and muslim journalists and arabic speaking journalists, but where all the high paid western journalists, it looks to me like a boy caught a gaza. you think there was a time when journalists tried harder to get into guys are obviously the john this is saying they don't explicitly say, but it israel that actually prevents them and doesn't give them the passes. and i should say, israel obviously says there were rocks at alex mosque, and israel says they give warnings, although that's disputed by some of the children who've seen that parents being killed. well, we know that israel is ally machine and it's been proven to be that. but i think we

do have to one of the responsibility in britain. it had the responsibility of not only the president government, but the labor party is part of that of installment labor party, which allowed pro israel groups to, to direct the policies of the labor party. but in fact, support this. so time when you have the, the shadow foreign secretary say to criticize israeli atrocities is anti semitic. then we're in, wherein louis carol, well really the b, b, c had a piece of to some of the atrocities in the past week thing. but why is it all these protest as we saw that some of the largest projects in the world here in london? but i know they've been all around the world. why is it they don't protest about the syrian government or against the, according to western sources, genocide,

committed by china. and we're going to talk about china and bought to what, why are these protest is about palestine at all? why don't they protest against benefee? why don't they protest to the phrase and government about genocide against the indigenous people? why don't they protest to the u. s. government about the dozens of countries that is overthrown as about the, the, the great numbers of people but is that is his death. that is cause tennis dispossession. it does cause it's, it's, it's a banal argument. people are protesting about an atrocity that is going on before our eyes and we're allowed to see that atrocity because of some of the bravest jo, unless i know i know some of these people, photographers, cameraman, people,

whose building we saw blowing up in one of my films, the boy you don't see there is a wreck, frequent some which and there's railey sniper guns down the palestinian camera man who's lying wounded on the ground. and then they continue to shoot as his legs. he within so seriously wounded he probably wouldn't walk again. but that's the kind of bravery. but these people in most the palestinians, i have to say mostly palestinians. the high paid bdc people and others are just not there. now, yes, it may be very difficult. the israelis who who, who's domain they seem to cover very well, won't let them in. why don't i get it regardless?

they are in the tunnel is that they keep telling us about, from egypt. congresswoman to lay in the united states palestinian extraction arguably fell into a trap. trying to attack come us, but be alexandria cause you go. tears. this writings john, the democrat buddy said that apartheid states are not democracies. tony blinking someone who supported the destruction. it ended up like that of africa's riches per capita company country. libya said, said he wasn't convinced about the a p. algebra rebuilding being full of a mass operatives. is it changing in the united states? if it's not changing in london? is that a change? i don't know if it's a change, you know, biden or no bama were in 2014, during the last israeli killing trask on palestine. they were killing something

like an average of 11 children a day. and yet, a bomber in body arranged the re supply of precision weapons to israel biden is now the president. i don't see the difference. the only difference, the only resistance is, is the resistance. that's what's different the of, in this attack there is a real resistance. and there is that should be matched by people going beyond the government, beyond the parliaments, and going into the streets. that's the only way, whether the whether or not that succeeds, i don't know, but there is no other way. you suggested a link between those pictures of, of atrocities coming from palestine and the british army. and the, and the british state has the israel. i know they've been accused of killing jonas in the past, borrowed from the nato playbook when it famously blew up belgrade tv,

and you get sloppier in this destruction of the, the big tower and gaza housing, media organizations. it's a lot more dangerous now when, when, when i was a war correspond, but in particularly in se, asia, because now your side that is the side representing the people whose newspaper are broadcasting. organization st. you are aiming for you, your target and but at the very least, these palestinian cameraman, photographers, and journalists, they are targets. but every, all journalists now targets go into abroad to church in london, into the corner. the pays tribute to journalists who died and in covering covering was and there they are. the names the names are listed in the last few

years, but indicate the trend that the u. s. in particular, doesn't give a damn where the journalists feel, whether you have a line you're hanging around your neck that says journalist, you get shot. the israelis, of course, no, don't. you don't give a damn. they don't even consider it. you'll get short period. john, i'll stop you there more from john pilcher after the break, when we discuss double standards from china to the torture of julianna sanchez ah, we're witnessing a very disturbing media trend serving an ideology and scoring political points trumps informing citizens. we have the russia gate hoax, the impeachment hoax, and the suppression of any debate on the origin of coven now front and center is the capitol hill, ryan. what does the f b i know?

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part 2 of our special interview with john, build your input when we talked about the atrocities taking place in garza, the country currently holding the presidency of the un security council is china, which failed to persuade joe biden to issue a resolution on the current slaughter. the people's republic. demonized by nature is the subject of john pill, june 2016 film, the coming war on china. this is the distinguished historian. shouldn't theodore h. white, an advisor to the white house around the wake of speaking and the 19 sixty's. prox china is too vast to be governed by mercy. yet a chinese mind craves order. they must be brought to recognise they are the biggest factor in the world disorder. and we must untangle the madness of their mind. the most difficult task in the world is to reach the

minds of men who what white was really complaining about was the loss of a china that the imperial west could dominate. a clip from john villages, the coming war and china there is boris johnson deploys britons h him as elizabeth aircraft carrier to confront china. i'm still here with john pilcher, who joins me from sidney in australia. well, of israel is britain strategic, military partner. we are told in a to a nation media day after day that our enemies to our national security, russia and china, china holding the rotating presidency of the un security council. you said the coming war on china out of you noticed the difference here is, are gods, palestine with china, apparently trying to force the issue with a statement from the un security council core received against the wishes of the united states. the whole chair, the whole campaign against china and the campaign against palestine. one on

the same thing it is about control is about imperial powers that a certain time in their history threaten they feel threatened. they're not actually threatened. they have threatened and economic terms in the they may, there they are, economic prosperity is receding. but so in order to correct this, they play me with the prospect of war. it's a terribly dangerous game. when i made becoming more against china and that was in 2016, i wrote that title almost has a provocation. if i was doing that, so now i would say it's a reality. in a few short years, china from being in many senses are strategic ally of the west.

certainly in the so called war against terrorism, it was and it's a relationship over trade and currencies. this was a peaceful, a peaceful relationship and a change with the so called private to asia. and what we have now is which has never reported. and this is very important because it's basically a cy ops war, a propaganda war. there are 400 active basses surrounding china, but us bases, they start here in australia with probably one of the most important pine gap, all the way up through the philippines, thailand, korea and japan. so that we have bases now which are

primed for nuclear attack. in oakland and in korea pointed to china, something like 5 or 600 miles away. that's the kind of provocation that we're living with day by day. now, that's almost never news. that is the dangerous stage that we're in, leaving us in a stage when they call b mistake or accident. and it becomes a nuclear war. the try now doesn't, in military terms, china doesn't threaten anybody. it's made it. it's made it very clear that water is interested in its business in trading, in, in, in development, in, in making its own people prosperous in

a way that they have never known you. when you're in china, you have a history of like a presence. the history of china right through the 19th century, as a colonial, impoverished servant of the west. they feel that they call it the, the century of humiliation that's over and to spin. and it's been, it's, it's over in a very spectacular way because china has risen to the point where anything the west can do. it can do and often do it better. almost half of all a chinese coven vaccine is going to other countries that's indicative of china's development policies. this is, this is the beginning of

a world based on development, not, not. you know, that doesn't mean to say, but a great power itself doesn't have a present difficulties for all of us, but the difficulties are much diminished if that great power is not a military aggressor. there's only one military aggressor in the world, and that is the us back by u. k. packed by its vessel state australia. and the reason for that is that the u. s. has realized its losing its economic dominance, but what it does have or thinks it has his military dominance. it's a very dangerous time. well, you know the news here that we get. i mean human rights watch amnesty calling claims of the human rights abuses in jin chang true. we and use every day about the the oppression of oligarchs. actually in hong kong, britain,

upgrading its nuclear weapons and has sent a mess. elizabeth, it's the black sea protecting us from russia, and it's headed for the south china sea. what do you think goes through the minds of the soldiers on board h. m as elizabeth, the 2nd. and boris johnson here, when he sends our aircraft carrier, they're doing a pandemic. well, they will have been told a story and they can hardly be blamed for what is going through their minds, frankly, whether an aircraft carrier that has cost billions and who's aircraft by courtesy of the united states and those a crowd don't work very well. anyway, it would be in a very black sense, be funny if it wasn't so serious. there's no reason to confront china in the south china sea. most of the stories, adverbs in zang, about the way goes ah, out,

now propaganda, without evidence, without evidence. in fact, in certain, jang, there was a problem with the i think it's the what the call the east coast town. freedom movement which the us state department described as one of the most extreme terrorist organizations. so china has a terrorism problem in, in that province, whether, whether or not china is being able to handle secessionist problem. the same that the soviet union has had, and many of the countries of had but there is no evidence whatsoever. but there is the kind of suffering that has worthy of the description genocide, that term genocide i should remind you, came from the lips of mike pompeo. who described himself as

a liar and most of the so called evidence has come from a researcher now associated with the jamestown foundation in washington called adrian's ends. if you look at things is all his so called documentation, it's documentation used by amnesty and many others. it's fraudulent, he denies that, obviously we do invite him on the program and people can see our interview with a week counsel person on the show on youtube channel. i mean, you mentioned earlier about these bases around china. i mean, obviously track and trace of a cove. it is a problem here in britain. we don't seem to be able to track and trace corona, virus infection, but the, the seems to be a larger number of bases that are tracking and tracing all her every

moves. just tell me what pain gap is. what part piney gap was set up by the c i a in the it's near l. a. springs. it was set up in the late ninety's sixty's for many years it was denied the stranger and government denied that it was an american base. they described as a shared facility, it wasn't nothing and the kind, it's a completely american run, facilitate with astray and employers, but as the straight an intelligence and us intelligence is completely integrated. that's not a problem. is it certainly one of the most important basis in the world? and then with snowdon in his released document showed it to be a base that spied right across asia. right across china. right across

russia. a major spy operation, not a defensive operation. aspire operation. so at the moment it probably is the major spy base on, on, on china, or, and all the other imagine the enemies of, of the united states. and it was, of course, julian assad, your help snowden avoid the clutches of the united states. perhaps georgia, just very quickly what have you heard about what is happening in the science case? biden doubling down, it seems on 175 years for the world's most famous journalist. there was some wishful thinking for a while, but the by the ministration may not carry on. trump's pursuit of purely no songs, it is. and it's now heading for the high court in london, where it'll probably happen in,

in the autumn path, september, october, in which the high court will decide whether there is any credibility in the us, appealing against this decision to let truly in go. my own sense is and i feel slightly nervous about making this prediction. it's julie and will be set free. i certainly hope so because he embodies, he embodies the very resistance that we've been talking about in this program. it's the resistance of information, of transparency, of, of a whole moral purpose of resisting the forces of oppression. julian himself and his case exemplifies lat. that's why what happens

to him is so important to all of us. john bill jer, thank you. and that's it for the show will be back on saturday after a bilateral meeting between us secretary of state downs and the blinking russian foreign minister said a lab rove until then if you're watching this online, get in touch my social media comment below on youtube to let us know if you think the circle, mainstream media is fair when it comes to the issues discussed in this program. ah, ah, i'm at casual moore, my guide to financial survival. this is a hedge fund. it's a device used by professional value eggs to earn money. that's right. these hedge funds are completely not accountable, and we're just adding more more to them. totally, the stabilize the global economy. you need to protect yourself and get inform.

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