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which we, you know, as a society we see the bad guy in the good guy. well that cops and robbers, but when the car becomes the robber, the game is over. the game is over. f corruption, it was a heretic, twist a faint lead to reggie's relief. bruce was more fortunate. his father's death led to an unexpected turn. providence was his big thing and he had a great life insurance and it was 184000 that my dad left me and i was able to parlay that up to about 236 stock market. and then it was just a 100 percent of my time dedicated to my case, a lot enabled boost to hire a private investigator. we had essentially a growing worchester of evidence that hadn't committed the crime. or at least that all the evidence that was presented was, was false evidence. i had received

a complaint from oscar. i flew up to the state prison where bruce or was i spoke to him when somebody is accused of murder or you're arrested for murder. it's tape recording, everything is tape recording. i couldn't find his tape. ready it had been taken out of evidence by detective mon too, and it was never put back in evidence inactive minds. you said the footprints outside the house matched the footprints on the inside. lieutenant gavin found the footprints weren't actually looked at by scientist or any qualified expert. so we took matters into his own hands. ready so i contacted our people and we're scientific investigative division. so he takes out this big magnifying glass, looks at it looks at the other one he goes, these 2 don't match. see, this is a great embarrassment for any large organization that you've convicted somebody for murder, and then 51020 years later. if it turns out that the person's actually innocent, and this is what my lieutenant said,

that is not getting out of prison. do you understand me, sergeant cabin, they will do everything they can to stop. you prevent you from coming forward with the information you have. upon reviewing the comprehensive work of the private investigator, the p. d. internal affairs department claimed versus complaints were unfounded and that no misconduct had occurred. you can have an internal investigation where we all investigate ourselves, that like a general my mom against the authorities or anything like that. i'm just the gift system that they have no checks and balances. youth who is taking y'all. i believe in internal affairs should be separate from the police department. there is no way that a police department can investigate themselves. currently, there are no independent organizations whose job is to investigate police misconduct, and there are no oversight of prosecutors either. brush tauriel misconduct does a major factor of wrongful convictions. just

a single thread that runs through almost all of the wrongful condition cases. jeff jessica beck as a masters and criminal justice, specializing and wrongful convictions. he's also a survivor prosecutorial misconduct. i spent 16 years in prison that was roughly 17, emerged at 32. jeff eventually won a lawsuit against putnam county new york for his section, which enabled him to start his own foundation. and i'm the founder and executive director of the jennifer justice foundation for justice. there's no deterrence, there's no oversight. there's no punishment for prosecutors, so they can break the law. they don't face criminal penalties even when they engage and withholding evidence of innocence threatening witnesses, coercing witnesses, no matter how serious the misconduct is. if the prosecutor commits that after an arrest has been made, they have what's called prosecutorial immunity. they're above the law. you prosecutors to really uphold what's become just words. which is, you know,

they're there to do justice. they're there to do the right thing. it becomes more like where they're at when, especially when prosecutor's office actually keeps statistics on conviction rates. well, you should be credited that you looked at a case where the police thought they had a good case, but a good prosecutor looked and said, you know what their mistakes made here. we should drop the charges in this case. we should incentivize that. but instead, we actually incentivize the opposite of getting convictions and getting conviction rates. all the sudden justice gets lost in that process and whether this guy committed the crime or not gets lost in that process because it's all about winning my case immunity. i mean, in the real world, you know, you're supposed to be held accountable for your wrong don't. and so therefore, if you are a person of authority of authority the you have to be held at a higher standard than just a lame me. i think we actually to step back and kind of rethink the whole system in

the way we're approaching it because it's become this game and people's lives are lost as a result of the me. if you ever do find yourself wrongfully convicted, odds are you never get. now. the 1st thing you need to do in preservation letters to the police department labs and the courts questing that you want all your evidence said. otherwise, they may destroy within 30 days. try to find an innocence project that will take your case. prepare for this process to take years in pray for miracle. the innocence project estimates conservative way there could easily be 40000 to over 800000 americans, currently wrongfully convicted. the majority of which are people of color the

private investigator never gave up. on his case, a very vigorous private investigator who made a complaint to b e l and on the desk of a internal affairs investigator who looked at braces claims in a very serious minded fashion. the the people liked the fact of mon 2 and the others out there that have made our job very difficult to do day after day. because we lose the confidence of the public and we lose the competence of the court. we have to have police chiefs, directors of public service that are willing to do the right thing and terminate employees who are doing the wrong thing. you want to say you're the good guy, but you're ostracized by everybody that you believe. then it's a very difficult situation. because i have to continue to work for the same department that did this to bruce listener. i don't look at myself as a hero. i look at myself as a sort of as a survivor,

because the system attacked me system one after me. and the system did everything i could to keep bruce liquor in jail and everything to keep me quiet. it's been a lot of therapy. my wife and i met at in 3rd grade. we were elementary, junior, i high school sweethearts who lived on the same street. and as i've been, it's been a very difficult, difficult road. she is 3rd generation l a p d. and the survival is day by day. and always looking over your shoulder, whether you're doing the right thing or not, you're constantly looking over your shoulder. and every time i get called into the captain's office, i wonder, what did i do now? and i've never had that feeling before. i just kept on telling myself, they are not going to defeat me. they're not going to defeat me. it's just when you come across something like this, what are you going to do? and that's the difficult thing. if i had not given up the information that i did to

the l a times bruce lisco would still be in prison. a bloody footprint that was attributed to bruce in his trial, had recently been re analyzed and shown to not been made from bruce issue. so they got his interest in the case and we started talking to is a private investigator and began the 7 month investigation. and the conclusion about they filed an article called a case of doubt that eventually won them in award. when the time's work, i went up sitting between 2005 when the 1st article came out and 2009 in prison for solid ears. a widely recognised innocent man, we knew back in 2003, 2004, that we had probably a person that was in prison for a crime. he did not commit. and it took 5 years for the courts to work through the, the entire system. there were a lot of delays because of the conduct of my own police department. and the conduct of the california attorney general. reggie cole spent 16 years in prison for

a crime. he didn't commit 10 of those years were spent in solitary confinement, and he had to kill another man to get a trial. it's a miracle reggie got out at all. i. tim is a miracle story as well. in late 2000. after 26 years, he made pearl. i signed some papers for the pro officer. he said, okay, see you later. didn't asked me how i was getting home. didn't ask me if i had a home. when i realized these people honestly don't give me to survive, getting out a lot harder than it sounds. you may have develop post traumatic stress disorder agoraphobia param, lawyer,

and require immediate treatment. you want to need food and new clothes. you're going to need money for transportation to and from your for all office a meeting. if you missed a meeting, you could find yourself back in jail. i need a job, but there's a lot of discrimination out there for employment and housing. speaking of which you're going to need a home, i wouldn't have a home if it wasn't for the rescue, a life foundation to set up the house, transitional housing god. and that found ation is what's gotten me by it's the reason i'm sitting here and not back inside the rescue alive found ation was founded by dwayne mc galloway, who knows how challenging it can be to re enter society. dwayne did 25 years himself for murder after school, we would have to go to my mother's dress shop and hang out all day work around the business time. we had several organisations that we just controlled area. so it was

pretty say we had the black pastors ring is organization united ways we had the nation a is it was pretty cool. you know, you didn't have to worry about people coming in holding you up and every day you have to worry about that. that's what it was after the call and tell people when they got pushed on the ground, that everything seeing like, you know, went crazy. all above came out in a, you know, you will, you will fair game in the store operator. that's when we started having a lot, a lot of burglaries, my mother, she just a little bit late. she's beat up the one day while i was there and i grabbed it due to the ground and keep doing better after he got the money. did he figured was enough money, you know, low key and i was probably about 11 years old and, you know, he had his gun on issue and now didn't mean not to move in just, you know, kick in her and demanding more money. and he got all the money we had,

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me dares think we dare to ask me the me without me come in about me being so tight and he smoked, we submit just take me through medicare and lead other things you know, lead to cocaine. pcp was in lean to my crime that happened to me to prison, to fit in for a 2nd degree. murder. to do is rob me. they were supposed to been the middleman going to gets jobs. and in the, in the rob and me because it,

it happened to us in our business, the found the business so much this guy. he was just the one that was robbing me all the time. he was the image of somebody had been victimized in my family and all these other times you got away, but this time you weren't going to get away. so it was kind of like a retaliation thing for you and you, you got to pay for that. so what i found is that what you can forgive, you end up becoming what you can forgive, you end up becoming so i had to learn how to forgive and let it go. and i had to learn how to give him that they go, because he was also after i got to see his record. and this guy had a rough seat, you know, from here from one sided room to the other. you know, and i, and i could see that, you know, he needed the same help that i need. we are generally taught to imagine that there is such thing as, for example, a murderer. in other words,

the murder in the public imagination. and in most of our minds, whether we thought about it or not initially is someone who likes to murder and who would murder given the opportunity? i think that's what it's like, a vocation, right? that's what murders do. they go around murdering, right. and that's why you don't let them at a principal out of prison, they're going to murder again. the reality is that like murder is almost always the context of the situation, it is statistically speaking, very rarely driven by a compulsion or a desire to do harm. right, it's a reaction to some set of circumstances to a real or perceived threat, to some extreme emotional state. it's not a propensity, basically, we're confusing the profile of a psychopath. the psychopath we've read about, you know, the serial killer with prisoners in general. if we, as a society, stop and imagine that the people in prison are fully human, incredibly diverse, have often been through some of the most extreme and difficult situations and

conditions, some of which many of us couldn't even really begin to imagine. then suddenly, all that judgement and all that hostility and all that vindictiveness doesn't have to. it's a natural place anymore. many of our students have committed murder and felt horrible about their crime. as soon as it happen, it's not like they needed to sit in prison for 15 or 20 years to realize they've done a bad thing or to never want to do it again. there is no human element to the criminal justice system. there is no human element, they're not there to help you. they're not their help society. they can say they, that's what is set up for all they want. that's not what it's there for, not in california, and not in a lot of places, just some systems set up to punish people. and they take a bad situation and they usually make it much worse.

you know what the official success rate of state prison is nearly 80 percent of all inmates go back within 5 years. success rate of 20 percent. imagine if we have those requirements of airplanes. wow. 8 out of 10 airplane pulling out of the sky. it's a little bit crazy making and that is department of justice. that's federal government research. dr. michael coil attended harvard university as a ph. d and justice studies. and as a professor of criminal justice, the california state university. dr. coil says the prison not only increases criminal behavior, but as a deleterious effect on society in the whole, what happens to a family when the wage earner is removed from society and thrown into prison for 10 years? what happens to those children? how are they impacted? what other chances of success in life start to go down? what, how does that impact the community loss of resources in that community? more demand in the community now to help to help the family,

maybe the other parent, maybe the children. it's so clearly a failure by every measure that you look at it that i think we just need to rethink the whole thing and not just keep trying to put lipstick on this bag. because that's what we're doing. but i think it is difficult for people to imagine a world without prisons. now we've become so accustomed to the idea of prisons, but it's hard. people imagine, well, what do you do with people if you don't put them in prison when, when they've done wrong, there are other alternative just ascii, said the degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its presence, hebrews, 133. remember those who are in chains as if you were in chains with them. we don't. we put everybody at risk. my husband dan was a police officer and he was killed in the line of duty. my goal at the trial was to

get the man who killed my husband, convicted of 1st degree murder, and be given the death penalty. and that's what i got. that's what happened. i thought, okay, here it is. i got justice. i'm going to be free from this, and it didn't happen. it was just a lie, it. it didn't change anything. a kayla cheryl's the famous for brokering the truth between the credits and the blood in 1992. been in 2004. he experienced an unimaginable tragedy. my oldest son was murdered from when a break, college was shot to death at a party. my daughter called me and was like a dad didn't get together on system street in the projects and stuff and talking to my going on a mission put around. so i jumped in my car and i drove over there to the projects and i jumped out the car and i, i said a i said man, we played this i for 924 two's game long enough. i'm like, you know,

it's left is all blind and toothless. you know, and i'm like, without anybody here to provide direction and guidance for the kids and the young folks and the parents in the loved ones that are left behind. like, i'm like, let's, let's do something different. there's an opportunity here for us to take the wisdom that we know works. what we would do for our own kid. the brown kids were in trouble and do it for everybody's good. we have to demand one to for all an ends to believe, team and prisons for profit. at least half of the people in there are in there for crimes of addiction or economic desperation or mental health. instead of just throwing everybody that we've decided we can't help in the prison use the money for restorative justice programs, re as and social services. there has to be citizen oversight and accountability for all our public service. luckily for us, we have access to all of the data. if you have any interest and justice or equal

access to opportunity in this country of all the data, luckily is out there. so it's a matter of whether you give i was survival depends on being logical. i was the bible depends on being slight and our survival depends on love for each other and love for yourself. the had a good monday morning to you, our fornia man. finally, free, after serving 16 years for a crime, he didn't commit. i didn't think it was really so i so my attorneys in business and i'm trying to describe, ah, those an unbelievable feeling that was just an emotional rollercoaster that you know, i mean, i cried, walking out and it's just the,

the magnitude of all these years like now here it is, and then a moment later i would be to bewildered to cry and i would just be in that that whole day was really scary for me. a lot of people like think that it would be like a but i was terrified. there were well wishers well wishers their officers knew that i think they knew the truth. certainly knew the character, you know, my character. and then i was in the parking lot. ah, the air smell different. i wish my mom could have been there, which my dad could have been there was my step mom could have been there but i think in a way they were ah news

. like once i got on the other side, tony, i just felt like running like just getting as far away from that place is not possible. that to answer that, everybody would think that i would have a joyous time for me. i mean, like, literally scared to death. my cousin was waiting for me, my private invest. it was waiting for me. i said, do on here. what actually? and i looked at paul and i said, you know, let's get this stuff on the truck out of here. and we couldn't leave fast enough. i thought that would i have breakfast and i was like may just the 3rd mean you just was overwhelming. like it

was completely overwhelming. i. i haven't been in a vehicle without being chained that my feet. i was waste chain and then handcuffs, hook to the waist. and in a paper, jumps to for 26 years. ah, yeah. the order to just try to i try to figure out who i have to. i'm still trying to figure out like how do you adjust color to the plan in mars to take the oxygen with the or i don't think i'm adjusted. ah,

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