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hello and welcome to cross stock. we're all things considered 9. peter labelle. well, it didn't take long days after the shooting bigler summit. the u. k. committed some very under pro magic acts in the black sea will tell you why. also after heated debate, the e. u is proven unable to find the unified voice to engage russia. whose fault is that? i can discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, marcus, about the ductless of london. he's a historian analyst, an author of the new book, arise, rossi, and the return of russia to world politics. and in budapest we cross the jordan, samuel, we is a podcast, or in the gaggle which can be found on youtube rumble and locals are and gentlemen, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. how it's going to london 1st market. can you explain to me what the u. k. is doing him,

the black, the, and all of their gobbledygook, explanations for their intrusion in territory waters of russia that russia claims that i know that they the u. k. does not recognize crimea as part of ukraine, but they are russia and, but you know, they have to of 2 different explanations that ukrainian waters, it's international water is what is that, what are they doing? and it's very and diplomatic. are they looking for a provocation? go ahead, marcus. well, the infamous incidents in russian maritime alters adjacent to be crime in an inch. was evidently a sage, the publication by both britson and america. and i say america as well, because london and washington act in unison on the international stage. and that is especially the case when it comes to russia. and this stage provocation was both

for holiday and exceedingly dangerous. now, the question is, why did last london and washington orchestrates this publication of russia? well, i cannot believe that the americans and the british seriously wish to go to russia into a military confrontation with the west because the americans and the british know, as we know, that a military conflict with russia, with rapid growth rapidly escalates into a new killer exchange so it is my opinion that the reason why the british and the americans sage this provocation was to portray russia as an aggressive and dangerous full force which warrants the increase in nato is present on the russian border in terms of soldiery and weaponry. and also, it warrants the k for ukraine to be admitted into the ranks of nato,

the british governments official line, but they do not recognize the crimea as part of russia and bear for a tremendous defender. the rule may be short shipping both and the incident was in ukrainian. alters is, is an logical and quite simply untenable argument to make. because if the, if that argument was applied across the world, then other countries in the world could no longer recognize the british jurisdiction over the new or northern island, or british jurisdiction over the mouth, venus, or the full con, diamonds, or in days, british jurisdiction over by the islands, so the real reason was to go russia to portray russia in a very negative, dangerous way to justify increasing dangerous prisons on the russian buddha. and also to increase the case for ukraine to be admitted into

george. we all know that the lee and the, i guess the daniel, the breeze op exercises are bland, but this week here was a trial balloon to see what the reaction was going to be. also, we have with a british him getting so close to a russian sovereign border on the crimea in the black sea is that it was a reconnaissance mission as well, seeing what kind of dependence are there. and so, i mean that there's provocation written all over the go ahead. yes, there was a provocation. and with our question, it is about trying to humiliate roster and to mobilize nato into more, more expenditure, more reasons for existence, more expansion. and, but i think also there is

a domestic aspect to it, which is the, i mean, the baris johnson government is in the hopeless tap as we have its minutes. the map and coffee resigning this weekend over a situation where he was violating his own co good restrictions. we know we have johnson counting his supposedly global britain, where by britain now has a major world's power and has a role to play in the world. when of course, it is complete nonsense because a britain is not a serious player on the world stage. and one britain did in the, in promoting russia was clearly absolutely ludicrous just on his face because of the, the rationale that it has come up with, such as a well, this was innocent passage when it was, which, even when you look at it,

just in terms of what the un convention of law the see says. the innocent passage does not apply to a war ship costing through territorial waters locked and loaded. and the engage in the propaganda exercised, johnson openly said, this is the propaganda exercise to show that these waters don't belong to russia, but belong to your grades of the propaganda exercise. and moreover, russia have already explicitly stated in april of this year that there is to be no innocent passage in the crime in that's a beta. let's say that in april. so this was months before johnson comes along with this month, and that's how this was innocent passage and we're just going from a to b. so i go back to your original question is, or, you know, i think brittany is trying to throw its weight around in the well, but is making it so up into an absolute laughing stock. and unfortunately,

because brittany doesn't have a proper opposition, let me, where is the labor party? there's no one really holding johnson's feet to the fire as to why exactly is he getting breton involved? but they actually do a very serious military conflict with the nuclear power in markets. at the end of the day. i mean, it was an attempt to humiliate russia, but it was the case with humiliated it. i mean, this was the self inflicted wounds. i mean, they ran late and they, they turned around and ran away. okay. and they, and of course, in the media coverage of it, you know, russia, there was a, a warning shop. they were claims involved in the a far as i understand that you government denied all of it, but none of that is true. it actually all happened. go ahead, mark is paid. so 1st of all, i must say this. i proceed to april, soon, not dismiss britain in the world who is at the heart, along with the americans of the bank in the global banking system and the global

financial system. britain in particular, specifically the city of london origin is an exceptionally powerful global player in about doing the thing i was i think that if i could interpret george's words and he can jump in obviously to, i mean the u. k is making itself relevant diplomatically, militarily on the coattails, have been trained to where i want to talk about a little bit later here. i think that's the context you're right. i mean, i'm not knowing dismissing the city of london. okay. but i mean, of course do use your own words. they never would have done this with the americans and agreed. yes, absolutely. the american military. george. that little. yeah, yeah. i mean, the americans provide the military muscle, but of course had traditionally britain is at the heart of the global financial banking system. now, as regards to nato, well, i believe that made expansion into eastern europe has come to

a halt perhaps made. so we'll expand into se in europe, specifically, serbia and both. but as regards eastern europe, it has come to an end. why do i say that? because the kremlin will use all means at its disposal. i mean, all means that its disposal to ensure that you train is never admitted into the ranks of nato, but i believe h must defend the been deployed in sebastian maritime borders. does show that the british and the americans feel emboldened because britain never recognised the baltic states on the left, the uranium of the soviet union. yet nonetheless, in london, never violated soviet maritime walters adjacent to the baltic states. and let me add this one of appoint pizza, the british ruling elite, instead of the polio the royal navy to see, to go. and russia should actually pulling the royal navy in full strength to the

english channel to defend england from illegal immigrants crossing on a daily basis from kelly. if they have about the british people, by the way, they would deploy the navy to well, long on this program, nato really does have an important mission. only one single one, defend your preventive immigration is one of an anti terrorism another. but those are way down on the list. apparently. george, you want to jump in? go ahead. yes or no, i don't. i don't disagree with marcus about the key role of the british finance in the, in the world. but as a military power, a britain is insignificant. i mean, we've seen how feebly britain has fought in recent years. i mean it's, it's military performance and iraq was a joke. so any attempt by britain in ukraine or in the black sea to get itself into of a military conflict with russia will end in

a complete debacle for britain. i mean, this is, and that's, i think, very different from the united states that the united states is a serious military force of great britain is not as there is a military force. and that's why i think johnson's idea that the great britain is the global britain is as a major power of the world is completely misconceived. rapidly was part of what i asked you both the same working for the markets here in you know, you can interpret the, the recent content bio summit in many different ways. and george and i different venue are gaggle. but i mean, is this undermining any possibility of kind of lowering tension because that's one interpretation you can take from the summit markets 1st. and i'm going to go ahead real quick. you know, i don't believe fact if i mean is meant to be an improvement in relation between

russia and the west. spend all so to speak is fine. i'm in the course of the west west and they need to withdraw its presence from the russian border. the americans need to pledge inviting that ukraine and georgia will not be admitted into the rights of nato. and also the americans need to dismantle missile defense system in poland and romania. unless that happens, there will be no improvement in relation to russia. your answer, george, go ahead. yeah, no, i, i think that's the right that i don't think there's any real prospect of improvement or relations with russia and the nature that makes the significant changes. nato will not make the changes. but, and i think there of countries such as great britain that thrive on tension with russia, it elevate the significance and suddenly you can play around being the sort of the big player in the, on the world stage. so johnson said that does not want any kind of a day tone because and, you know,

his role in the world is much them and so it's not a money maker in general, then it's not. all right, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break enough about your community discussion and some important news, stay the ah news ah. driven by shaped by those with vision. in me think we dare to ask me.

ah ah ah welcome x across that are all things are considered. i'm he to rebel, this is the home addition remind you were discussing some real news. i okay, gentlemen, let's change gears is going to go back to george and in budapest. well, you know, be there is a strobe out there that the russians are always trying to divide that members space of the e u conquering divide and all that back when the you to get together. and on the back of strong suggestion from the german chancellor and the french president,

to start a dialog on an on specific issues with russia, they pointed to the vote. and you know, what happened? no consensus here. the russians are left. what do we talk to you want to talk? who do we talk to? and that's the, the, that, that's where we stand right now. do you see that george? because it looks like, you know, the, the germans and the french want to move forward. but of course, it's the, the polls and the baltic states that do not want to is what actually want more things. and i mean, this is just turning the use policy towards rush into a presto. go ahead, george. yes. well, it's of the poland in bold estate, but it's also use the bar l, the u foreign minister, so to speak. remember, he was by the you council to come up with a working paper as to future your relations with russia. precisely because from germany, you know, probably it's really once

a working relationship with russia and then borrow comes up with this ridiculous paper about 10 days ago, which he talks about constrained and pushed back and engage with russia engage only on the issue that matters of the you know, one, anything that my mother, roger, so that's bar l who seems to be completely stuck in that mindset of rushing that level of both. so you've got what is really going on in the you the serious powers in the just bronze german. and it's really say we have to rinse what, what was the status quo and the 2014 working partnership with russia. and then you got the, you, your office, the name of morale and the news about the baltics and, and poland. just one more sanction. and the end result is out. we're going to have

more sanction. and now in, we're going to be working towards developing more sanctions. no one knows what about what, but the rest of most sanctions are needed. you know, i'm glad you're trying to a few 1014 because because that's, of course, on the back of the illegal force presume, change in ukraine, which for some reason is blamed on russia. and so we have this, you know, we have going on 7 years now, why should the russians really particularly care? i mean, if you don't want to, don't want to, why should they keep waiting around? i mean, this has been my position for a long time, but you don't want to parlay ben, get along, get on with your life will getting on get on with ours. we live in the same neighborhood, but if you don't want to be good neighborly, then what's the point, what, why should russia have to reach out the ball is in europe court. okay. and they need that relationship with russia. russian, we need to relationship with the europe less and less with every passing day. that's my contention. at least go ahead,

mark. trying to you expansion into the politic states, into eastern europe, and in to south east and europe. the you true me was a force to be reckoned with. it was an exceptionally affluent elite club whose members, with the exception of greece and portugal, made an immense amount of money. however, the use of leadership, overstretched themselves, when they admitted to the states, eastern europe, and se you're into the rights of the you. they never consider the consequences. potential consequences could have been countries such as poland and the states inside of the us. and now today, we see a fossil situation in which a minority of members of the you holding. so ransom

b u visa 3 russia, b a u. and i mean specifically the major countries from germany, but also italy and spain. and they offer such as hungry and greece want to have relations with russia. in fact, they want to go back to how relations were prior to the crew in kit, in february, 2014. the european union is handicapped. it is handicapped because of the behavior of poland and the baltic states. and i don't see how parents can actually get around that now because yes, the french and the germans have very strong financial relations with russia. a so also to spain and italy, in particular, the agricultural sectors in spain, them, it's really, i'm no longer to i'm no longer able to export their projects to the russian federation as they once were trying to be used functions on russia. so be you or

the leadership of the you only have itself to blame. i haven't expanded into parts of europe, which were always going to be problematic. i did not strategically plan for countries such as poland and the arctic state. and now, as i said, moments ago, be you in regard to its relationship with russia has become handicapped because poland and the 2 states do not wish to be any improvements between the you and why? because they are constantly portrayed russia as a french. so the whole of your and thereby they obviously even even more financial assistance from america and also even more soldiery and weaponry or so on their respective territories. george so, so obviously b, u isn't making any headway here. what are the benefits that countries like colon and the baltic republics? gardner disposition simply to be any kind of spite. and they want

a spike for historical cultural window, ideological reason, the entire block suffers. and as i say, every time i do cross up, the world is moving on europe. if you want to tread water, go right ahead because everybody else is moving forward. i mean, this is just the most ridiculous situation have. it's like dealing with children in the cafeteria. go ahead and calculation is, well, we'll, we will have washington in our walnut will be there for us. you know, we know about the united states, united states shell out money or something really big in it or the united states. and i mean, when trump said ok, well we're going to move troops out of germany. i move them into poland and then as oh, great, you know, we'll call it for trump and everything within that will materialize as always happens with the american promises. they never really materialize. and it's true

a mocker sandwiches that there was a moment in history when the you was, i got and it was serious was, you know, you have the hawkish, very russell oh, big united state. and then you had you, which had good relations with america, but also sold a partnership with russia and much, it was a little the energy in the u. k. came from. i wish your political big as a oh my god you that we're members. all it's going to become an american and it's going to become neutral, isn't going to be pro russian. we can't be a part of this because we have somebody saying this trans atlantic, ryan, it hasn't happened. and then the e. u now is ludicrous position is like even more hawkish. it's,

i think the united space. yeah. and it's very interesting with the, with since break the here we have obviously the u. k. out. and now they've gone in the most kind of like the u. k. is kind of the i can find them like american health around the world we discussed in the 1st part of the program, going into the black, the maybe doing it for the showing their value. ok. because their influence obviously over the lease diplomatically as non existent anymore. so, i mean, and now we have a small number of countries with the me, you dictating the direction of it. and, and i would say that the in the u. k. is role is it's more symbolic than anything else. i mean, the symbolism is really humiliating. every step of the way here and then you have paralysis in europe. so again, i repeat my position, why should the russians particularly care if they are good, they need to do with counter nato. the rest of it is internal injury and european problem go ahead markers. what is lamentable pizza is when britain

finally withdrew from the european union. there was, i'm perhaps this is a minuscule window of opportunity for an improvement between the european union and russia. because while britain was in the countries such as france and germany would come under more and more pressure in directly from america via britain. however, we have seen no improvements in relation between the you and russia. indeed, i regard as far to say, relation has a reason even so far in 2021. and we have to ask the question, why? well, i think to a very large extent, it comes down to the immense influence that washington exert inside of the europe

in union, not just economy, but also militarily. why? because most of the european union member states, also crucially, members of nato. and if mac countries are members of nato, ben back provides america with a tremendous amount of influence over the decision making process in those respective countries. but also in law, can i'm talking about the european union as a whole. so i believe if i was paris amberlynn sincerely want to have dialogue with russia. sincerely wants to be able to trade properly with russia. again, they are hamstrung by the very fact that they are both members of nato and because they are not able to eliminate american influence european union. i mean, it is remembered during pump, you know,

disregarding of disrespecting allies. but actually what we haven't to bide, which is continuation of other administrations, the more may leis inside the european union, the better. okay. i mean, one way to treat your allies, ok when they're in, they have a bullet paralysis. they can even make their own policy. and of course i agree with mark is that it works. the washington advantage. you're great. our lives are in paralysis. you know what a, what a bizarre way of looking at the world finish up or it's yes. that's right. remember, trump line was, oh my god, we're doing all this the europe, such ungrateful people, you know, they don't, you know, they don't realize all the wonderful things that we're doing for them. and so in the stabbing is in the back. and then when my grow suggested, well, maybe there should be your be in security and identity. it was, you had to go mind, no one forward, particularly independent nato. and this is always been the american thing. i have to jump in here, run out of the thing i guess in london,

and that's what they are watching. and i remember the ah, she's really something that comes right on police report. it's all in december 2020 a group of anti finishes. fill out a film crew access for 3 months. 3rd row, like if people, organization, it's an idea that must be opposed that channel out the game ground. they make their faces, but they can say what they believe and we believe in helping our community. we believe that fascism is one of the major threats to the united states as gotten grooven. this is a chance to see who and teeth are really are in order for me. my 1st amendment right and say that my life matter, i have to be onto the teeth that we can't trust the police. we can't trust the

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