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half of them women and children, family children actually have all homes. they managed. again, you'll have my 14000 redemption apartments and really been destroyed. you have the interest of the roads, the water system, even to the point of getting to be electricity and song. you have many clinics and stuff, so it's like the starting the economics that has invention and the human dimensions of guys guys are known, let alone go about westbank and through some of which have scores have thousands injured. so that is an insurance and targeting that has been an adult to ride the use of a cruel violence. and of course it's the innocent civilian. so i think that price and this is not the 1st time this is really the true high rate. sure, of
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a cruel and accountable occupation that uses all of these weapons state of the art, so to speak, in order to target and destroy either a captive civilian population or a civilian population and testing. and they all claim that this is just different. there's been, is just show misleading as the aerial bombardment to continued in the past few days. what do you think went through joe biden's mind appearing not to call explicitly for a sci fi and appearing to block the un security council resolution back way old members of the un security council proposed by the rotating president. china has the mind of bench back to the 3 ramp and the usual problem that we heard from american administration. ministrations that live there all day life
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between us and this and that they found security is sacrosanct. so this is the old language now, and they us, that is a new language and i think the mainstream, older generation that attracts or doesn't have understood that we then public opinion that is a change and we can talk about that great direction if you want that he will not really need to stand up and to call things. my name is my thing being a bit nice to him because of course he announced the selling of more weapons and bunker buster weapons like the ones we saw deployed in gaz or in the past few days . while pictures of dead children were emerging on social media,
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because then there's a, there's a tendency, those occurring factors that balanced indians of invisible or they are silenced. or they, i'd be humanized. and therefore, is there that count and then has to act with impunity claiming self protection and when it's victims as totally removed from the equations. and this is something that has become a habit among the mainstream administration, members, presidents or otherwise, and the us. now there's a challenge, i just have the international community is asking questions. i'm not saying that they are own, you're not demanding that the u. s. undertaken responsibilities and stuff being completed because they come to list it. and this is how this rolled on innocent lives. i'm john and palestine. my son's lead to the attendance for attendance and nothing. a statement from the security cancer,
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not loosen just a statement from the security council. he delayed meetings on the security council saying that we are engaged and signing and diplomacy. what diplomacy? i mean that they sent as far as love and civil service. they've done dr. how much anyway, and they think that this is missy. you have to address the issue is you have to go to the the one times and the toms against your money that are being committed against denies all of that. and it appears that the secret evidence that the united states gets is not permitted to come to the media or to the public. i mean, what, what do you, how do you rate tony blinking biden's, secretary of state. you said he hadn't seen the evidence that there was a need to destroy the associated press and 0 in,
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in gaza. but now intelligence sources have briefed him. no. actually, that is no evidence. how can he see it then leave them by saying them is israel thinks that that is an offer for us in that building. and so they have to the story, a building that houses actually, officers, doctors, lawyers, and for media stations, they totally demolish and destroy this whole and building because they just that that is an office for how much. and that's even though that is no proof, and actually how much money is everywhere, because it's not military, all of it has, has, has information offices has healed. and this is, has always, has all sorts of things all over the place. you cannot go down wyoming and shedding huge eyes when things because you have thing that may have had that office as good
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them been even services or they go to the things i'm a has anyway. but this is, this ingenuous has been explored. this is kind of up again, this kind of spend, i don't think, i think she's lying on the idea. oh yes. you stock. no, no long. i mean, i'm not lying, frankly, when they're not manufacturing an alternative reality to blame the victim and play that all of it is a cortez dead if the united states and britain, which also firm the right of self defense of israel, is a quartet debt. if people like that are involved in the quarter at a quarter times when that's for a long time. and actually the whole issue of defense is not the only one to the story. reality is not only to justify bias, one time to kill more palestinians and destroy him on homes. but this is also to
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prevent a smoke screen. and on the 2, she is an investigation embankment by the international criminal court. because it's constantly because this massive destruction and then says we are in the state of events or we are in compliance with international law of which of course, late implies and yet the saying this to prepare the case because i'm sure that these crimes against humanity and these one times will be investigated and they have to be you know, you use this many times as thousands and thousands of palestinians having killed over the years. i learned how my officials it was who were also killed in the reason fighting when what is, where is my mood of us and do you think the palestinian authority will now understand that a one state solution is what the people realize is the future. the 2 state solution
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is dead. i think the 2 states and more about boss who has really a guest is knocked with international community with international law and bush, if it's just you know, a work and show how be nice. um compet, did we are that agenda has been doing why is why is reading the actions because it does not comply with any of its obligation well destroyed by the surely was destroyed by fata and the palestinian authority as well. who kept seeking the 2 state solution, whilst all the settlements were making that that's exactly the point that is that it can just say we had in the middle of the dogs or we negotiated mod whatever . and at the same time, continue to see more learn more resources, build more settlements, which are going to be i don't stature and continuous monitor. i'm getting out a company has the ethnic cleansing plan and jerusalem, and attacking
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a lot of changing the elegy on the grounds. all these things, thinking that it's ok we will negotiate now or later is not the case. that's why the undermine the county bond and that the o negotiation strategy has certainly been undermined and has certainly lost any kind of credibility by the public. and that's why as a whole was back, including the us, including us and so on. and once they started the 2 state solution and acted with impunity outside their law, committed to them to spectrum. well, faster luck you enabled and allowed to enter this guy that does show what is left. i don't think one state solution has become an agenda, but it does the outcome. when you blow that divide green line. what is that it has
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succeeded to do now is do unite all palestinians everywhere. frankly, because this relentless assault, this honesty of discrimination, i guess punished indians. and they are not, as they say, because they want to eradicate the identity of palestine against the palestinians. and the west bank, including jerusalem and gaz in $48.00 village done, which became as an exile indefinitely. a g comes along with some people coming out in force that was just finally on, on that force. because i have to ask one thing about how obviously the narrative here is the, the old recent war began with mass rockets. it was, it began with the ledge ethnic cleansing and shake gerad. but also that, that came just off of the human rights watch report about apartheid. comparing israel to apologize. nelson mandela was unequivocally explicit about the about how
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white south africans civilians could be targets in militant struggle. do you believe that no n a n c style struggle is the cards against israel? i think you are beginning to see as of july saying we are not going to be the victims. we are not going to continue to accept this kind of artistic violence exercise against this. i'm not lifting finger. and because if you try to defend yourself, even though i'm to national law, allows you to defend yourself using all means including your immediate level that this is what this is them. they being on labeling every monday. and guys as how much i know, of course, how much my american standard organization that what it's legitimate to get all of that and gave anybody is implicated retirement and you see
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that that logic or lack of lots of so and then i think that that is a new dynamic. now that is a dynamic that says you cannot continue putting on the palestinians using blackmail understood at shaw and then asking us to accept this as state of interest, the smell. now things are changing, saying we will, we will not be better with the things that can and should be done. we are challenging with international community. we are not, we are not committing in our collective suicide. we are not going to set it up to the international community to maintain and so going through the system and to develop some backbone and, and to extend up to and to provide, understand which direction talk. and i'll stop you that more from before me a member of the past in, in the bridge and organization executive committee after this break. and why would
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joe biden secret qu in mexico, his alleged by president, am low. we speak to no m chomsky his daughter, professor of eva chomsky about what the class called washington bullets. all this more coming out to of going underground the the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is on often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk me welcome back. i'm still with the 1st woman to hold
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a seat in the highest executive body and valentine, dr. shrier, we should just as will all the damage be repaired from these british american in the nation bombs. unfortunately, they will give us more bombs and they will also try to compensate for the like if you eat, i guess it is that it better take a long time. there was several shots on guys. the last in 2014 can thousands of people and they were honest hauling. so who is going to be the, the, the building has not even been finished. so now they're going to have to renovate and sean on top of the previous destruction. one layer after the other. in addition, of course, does we send infrastructure right there to needs, including medical needs, senators and so i think people will rebuild. but the issue is not to keep this allow is to give this drawing and then as the palestinians this is how do
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stuff is going. how do you, how is accountable? how do you make your combination agreements is linked to israeli behavioral israeli human relations and use of these b, u has all sorts of stipulations i'm conditions then up there at the amounts including that agreements with is that they have never implemented that on legislation because i'll be holding an account to the same thing with the us and the country. the us even gives them more and neighbors more so i don't want to say lots of good, but it's the weird listing equation has to stop because you cannot keep supplying the aggressor with weapons. and you cannot keep saying, well, like you're going to have to do, but how do you rebuild the lodge of families whose members have been the story now?
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do the lives of children? well, i've seen that better. i'm siblings. good. whole families. whole families have been obliterated, 90 families where they can offer the population there, and 2014, anything in this that the israel is de facto weaponized in corona virus. israel does say that it had to, you know, keep its own population 1st, but that all this bombing, the impact on sewage infrastructure, water may contribute to corona virus. marion sooners. there was several, several buildings that do it. and at that time, due to the bombing, and of course they came to doctors including the they had doctors in charge of that going on by this campaign to stand up to ground about israel did not. i mean as excess vaccine,
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but the fuse do give any or any room to particularly and gather the doctors what the clinics are. the one going on about testing clinic was also the story completely. and then when, when you have a 100000 people, at least this place, where are they going? they're going to school is under a school is you have 3 or 4 or 5 families drafted to people in one room. and you don't know, you don't have to tell them, you don't know what's happening. they have no vaccines, you have no protection, they have no medical services whatsoever. no. and then you have the others around $50000.00 went to under our schools, but others went to relative stands and so on. so you have congestion among those buildings and homes that remain standing because people who are the people who are taking refuge, their audio protect, all these people about us is to become of them out. you cannot even keep track of
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how many people are contacting the disease and how many i bang this has become just minor. facing on the that's under section that there's raining on. my see my n y land isn't as created a system of sheer wisdom is ation and every aspect by its occupation, by it seems why it's violence is continuous with impunity using this and confounding then justice. so if you want to go to the root causes or vision to account stuff, this occupational engage in the positive way to provide the palestinians with the section the, acting to the latest violation of the latest tragedy that the palestinians have to knock down as ro, ivank you israel does, satan talks with the authority about vaccination distribution, but thank you very much. well, when our sales will briefly back to us proxy dictators in guatemala,
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it was israel that filled the gap in today. a local former coca cola boss is inaugurated is ecuadorian president, a new book looked into powerful corporate elite and washington so called backyard. it links us crews in guatemala, on doris nicaragua, panama handle salvatore to jo biden's cage, children on the us mexico border to join me now from salem in massachusetts. is professor of eva chomsky author of central america's forgotten history revolution, violence and the roots of migration. thanks so much for coming back on the river. i should just say, you know the mexican president under his man will lopez abra? do, said he had to complain to the by ration because it gives him of promoting a cou ahead of the ex, california prosecutor, a vice president to come on iris meeting with him some emblematic of, of his new book of us central america's forgotten history. clearly, one of the things that you see by looking at central america history is that the united states supports certain types of governments in central america. whether
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they were democratically elected or not, has absolutely 0 relevance. but if a central american government is willing to bow down to us economic demands, the united states will always support it. and if it isn't, the united states doesn't care whether it's democratically elected or not. but is very willing to overthrow it, as we've seen, over and over again at the present day. boris johnson's government jo, buttons administration and try to overthrow the government of venezuela. but there's a way that comes up again and again in the book of how the influence of a good job as administration does of aid countering us efforts towards neoliberalism. just tell me about venezuela's role in central america. not so much right now, but certainly during the period when it's, well, i had a lot more money to, to offer. and it's offered latin american countries,
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a potential pass away from the meal liberal policies being imposed by the united states in the international financial institutions by offering low cost petroleum setting up trade relations, offering them a kind of an estate from the depth track that they had so long been caught in which makes that that is the debt trap makes them completely subject to the united states and the international financial institutions in terms of what kinds of domestic economic policies they can impose. the united states to very clear demand for central america. its domestic economic policies be favorable to us corporations, and that generally means that the policies are going to be unfavorable to the poor of those countries because the very policies that us corporations want are things like low wages, no taxes, no environmental regulations, no unions,
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police repression of any kind of protest, oh, and access to land that is military and police aid in this possessing peasants from their land so that us corporations can have access to them. that's precisely the opposite of the kinds of policies that would be beneficial to the poor majorities in central america. for millions of people around the world, they can, they can see one emblem maybe on their kitchen table of all of this. i don't know, maybe you should have had the front cover of the velvet underground 1st called them on their bananas. well, i would say bananas and coffee historically bananas and coffee starting in the 19th century has been the the primary exports of central america. although that's diversified, a bought now, and i would say that us consumers also will find central american products on their bodies. so if people who are listening to this in the united states, if you look at the labels on your close,
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probably every one of you is wearing an item of clothing that's going to say major hunter is made in the problem made in el salvador. obviously, you mentioned trade unions, the united states, excessive administration to deny any malign influence, of course, south of the rio grande it. as for trade unions, the f l. c. i o unions. they don't come up very well in this new book, and they're american institute for free, labeled labor development that they set up and then load and usaid. how have, how, how is the united states and it's intelligence military industrial complex inserted itself in trade unionism. so i think there's been a real transformation over the course of the 1900 ninety's and up to the present day in the us trade union movement. the certainly the post world war to us labor movement, official labor movement, the f l, and later f l. c i o, after 1955. really bought into the cold war or id, ology, of repressing and eliminating the left within the us trade union movement and
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supporting us foreign policy to eliminate the left in trade unions around the world . and that went right hand in hand with the policies towards latin america, towards central america, to try to promote what they called free trade unions. and that's why the a filter, the american institute for free labor development, was basically an anti communist push to try to de radicalize labor movements. and often with very high degrees of repression, including murder against trade, union activists, who saw the kinds of, of, of economic changes of reforms that the united states opposed. although in central america, when we have revolutions going on in nicaragua, salvador pharma and the united states is adamantly opposed to those revolutions, and a field plays an important role trying in trying to undermine those revolutions.
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however, i should also say that it's really, i think during those central american wars in the 1900 eighty's that we start seeing resistance from the low within the trade union movement against the leadership. the book has such a huge range. obviously, anyone who vote for trump will say nafta was abolished under his administration, but just skipping over and he's trumpeted and over throw any countries directly like president obama appears to have done in on doris, do you think biden will go back to the old playbook of overthrowing countries in central america given he was vice president when a man was a lie, was removed in under us 29. i wouldn't say that the united states, the gang directly over the roof, the lion hunters, but it certainly supported the overthrow of life in honduras. i don't actually see a very big friends between the obama and trump administrations, or between democratic and republican administrations. in general,
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what we've seen from the, by ministration so far is an absolute commitment to the same kind of pro foreign investment economic model. and also to supporting the military and police in those countries on the pretext of trying to slow and stop migration. so there's sort of a humanitarian, the near to both of these that is biden like ever us, president claims that this is a model that's going to help eliminate poverty in central america. it's been followed for 500 years and it hasn't eliminated poverty yet. and the militarization is kind of covered up by trying to get us to focus on what they call the border crisis. so there is a crisis at the border but the border crisis is not going to be stopped by moving the repression into central america itself. professor viva chomsky. thank you. thanks for having me on and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday,
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