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randy and get the group that richard shifted its bays, found trying to re in are kind of fun to the part of the bottle between i've got a son and bucket especially next to the table and the day she more than also you have the hall county network which is inimical to india's interest and all these groups. you might remember when the soviets were true in the end of the eighty's, india was what india had to suffer collateral damage because of taliban because it would die. the died that were fighting. so we do know that that time did have no want to fight them, they were routed by park to sign. and also some element of the sea year to catch me you, which became a major problem with continues to be a major issue, a security issue on india. sorry, we've run out of time. we could definitely talk about it a lot longer. but thanks
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a lot for joining us on the program, political commentator like n p no problem. thank you now. well, if you'd like to see more about your world news stories, you can always check out our t dot com or follow us on twitter. i'll be back with more in just about 30 minutes, so stay tuned. ah. the, the news, the news. i'm at 200 pounds here. we're going underground on the day of
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u. k prime minister marz johnson, 0 gold freedom day corona virus announcement. as we dig up the stories, the elite don't want you to find coming up in the show. will you be returning to a policy of heard? immunity is big pharma. monopolies count the 1000000000 they've made from vaccinating the world's richest countries, while the poorest become a playground. for covariance, we called family policy lead to the people's vaccine alliance. and 10 years after the creation of the world, the newest countries out to done, we talked with new ambassadors in the course of st. james, about whether it's future will be it's washington consensus, post or as an african oil shoot about all the more coming up in today's going underground refers to neighbors. johnson, leading a country with one of the worst corona virus desk tools in the world, arguably tells britain if he is eminently to let corona virus run through the population as part of a policy of her community. no surprise then that in the liberal policy of competition versus cooperation governs you games when it comes to the global south and vaccination. joining me now from the out of wife is the policy lead for the people's vaccine. the lines knock sounds helpful at the advisor. marriott,
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and i thank so much for coming on. what is the people's vaccine alliance? so we see johnson every day tell the nation here that we have one of the best vaccine rollers in the world. the people that seen global movement, global campaign of organizations, individuals with chapters all over the world and supported by many current presidents from prime ministers as well as former needed. and nobel laureate, i'm basically what the people back in is the last thing that's available to everybody on the planet, free of charge on the accent is according to need and not ability to pay. and what we have is the absolute opposite of that right now. we have seen an extreme back being inequality that not only lives at risk in many of the poorest countries in the world, but is actually continuing to be a threat for all of us. because we know that unless we get back to everyone, unless everyone is protected, then none of us say, well,
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i know china is administered at least a 1000000000 vaccines. i mean what you just said that that's exactly why the g 7 hosted by boris johnson and coldwell said we're going to we're, we're going to give out free vaccines to the poor delay. so you should be happy with that. so i have to say that, you know, if we look at the level of need to get them from the control the, the trip color charity that was offered at the g 7 is nothing short of a monumental failure. in our opinion. you know, we need another 1000000000 and i'm the g 7 off adult actually less than a 1000000000 in donations with no edge and see in terms of when the nations are going to be made. and the reality is that donations will be speaking about loosely needed. now, because we are seeing that the rates rise in some of the port of the country, but they're not going to fix this crisis to be back. we actually need the g 7
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countries to back the listing of the patrons on the fact that the science a know how can be shed throughout. well, we can get qualified manufacturers making them rama production. that's the only way that we're going to get back to back to make everybody and i'll get to intellectual property. and in a 2nd, surely these g 70 doesn't know what you are talking about in this phrase that so often used about when safe, et cetera. at china, it exploded. 48 percent of the vaccines. it produced britain in the united states. i don't know whether you know, how many they've, i mean it's reportedly as 0. why would they not do what you are saying given that it will harm their own economies? well, i think what we're saying is we actually divide across the us president has actually read to the proposal that we lift the patience on the back. the rest of the g 7 are
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either sitting on the fence or in the case of johnson. and i'm awfully opposed to this proposal i'm, we can only put that down to narrow vaccine nationalism and government, uplifting the profit interest. so big pharmacies, corporations ahead of global interest in terms of guessing, i guess, in this pandemic, under control. and we really need to see the state government, the german government stopped blocking these proposals that would ramp up supply and on the right side of history. now, if we've done this a year ago, we would be in a different position. now we would have so many more doses being made, developing countries having a short supply. * for themselves, yes, 12 months after all those commitments that the best thing would be a global public good. and they're still standing in the way in developing countries . i mean, i've seen case street in washington dc and the massive big farm lobbying firms. i
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mean, you're saying that the big firm and low being in london and brussels is, is worse than that in the united states. so that joe biden was able to, as you say, unlike britain in the you offer some kind of intellectual property waiver. look, i think, i think the farm and lobby is we all know is incredibly strong in the us and explain why the us president is not doing enough to turn those was into action at the well trade organization. but yes, the bama lobby is incredibly strong in europe. europe has the you have a very check and history of putting intellectual property roles in the way of access in developing countries. i have the u. k. so we need to switch sides that we must learn from history. 20 years ago we had a huge crisis down to have a, we had a 10000000 people die on fairly well. they was treatment available that could have
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saved them. yes, a pharmacy for monopolies refused to lower, their prices refused to allow generic manufacturers to make those treatments. once that decision was changed, we have seen millions of lives saved. we need to do the same again. now, ironically, these countries not doing what you want them to really affect, be actually felt by global capitalism. is that why even the i m f w t o and will bank seems to be supporting what you're saying? yeah, i mean, i think i can make it easy to, to, to fail to tackle basking inequality. the, the i, m f is that the cost to the global economy side will be in the region of mine, trillion dollars. we're already seeing a whole of the economy to laugh it's not in the interests of all of us to protect
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the i'm watering profit, the just a handful of pharmacy for corporations who are very successfully creating new 1000000000 as we speak, while the rest of the economy and that means job losses. that means poverty rising and we are already seeing property rising for the 1st time in 2 decades in developing countries, the economic consequences, the social consequences of a failure. so absolutely. we need to see some urgency. we haven't seen that yet. we need, i'm going to muscle and bars. don't seem to get on the right side of support. the missing of the patients on these passing. i mean, we've heard on this program has some people are accusing kovacs of being an entire failure altogether. but i mean, johnson has pledged 30000000 doses through kovacs any point in that initiative even? yes, said k boxed is an important mechanism. in fact, many developing countries is the only source of supply. unfortunately,
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that supply has just been trickled today and say, the foundation problem there is that came back to failed to challenge the pharmaceutical monopolies. they have basically just raise money, different corporations, what they want, and come back to the back of the key. for those back things, supplies, while pharmaceutical corp, prioritize back contracts with rich nations where they can make the most profit that are always going to do that. and that's why we need to, we need to, to a new model of more distributed manufacturing around the world. you know, the, well, it's currently dependent on just a handful of corporations who are calling all the shots. they get to decide how many get may, what prices charge and who gets to buy them. and that will always mean that the mechanisms like that for developing countries and developing countries themselves
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will always be about to be key. you see some a saying that government scientists, i mean to today there's this announcement about what people are using. the johnson administration of pursuing a heard immunity strategy. government scientists, many of them i do, the big pharmaceutical companies may be saying quietly to ministers and politicians look to many vaccines. you're just going to create variance that heard immunity be the strategy rather than more vaccinations. i'm not, i don't know whether i can comment on what it's the same to governments change many of those conversations that behind the door. well, i can't say is that people back in alliance. so they leading that could be me all that is from around the well, just a few months ago, back in march. and 2 of them said, unless we tackle this been inequality, we all going to see that thing resistant rare variance within 6 to 12 months. is
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that right? that was very frightening prospect that we will see back being resistant variance on our shores in rich countries that have, you know, successfully rolled up the box where we as feeling protested, we could see those very in the right by autumn when i'm the service station that will bring, it just doesn't bear thinking about ok, trying to be positive for 2nd. do you not think that the global south will learn from this and begin to understand the importance of local infrastructure, pharmaceutical manufacturing? maybe they'll get leaked blueprints to these patients did vaccines. and start working for themselves rather than relying on handouts from, well, it wouldn't be in the via the i m f from the g 7 countries. so, you know, i think we need to be clear that there is already a very strong back been manufacturing based in many developing countries in india.
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if you look at in the navy, those governments and now saying already we can make these, you know, we have proven science that was largely public funded. and let's not forget, the vaccines were funded by the files we share. now with those qualified manufacturers, we could be production ramped up in developing countries right now. within a matter of lungs, those manufacturers are coming. who would think we can make them as long as you share the client base already exist without. without that, we need more investment in manufacturing in developing countries across africa. the african union has a target of making 60 percent of its own vaccines within the next few decades. not vicious target. it's the right water. but those countries will need support and we
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need and they need the science now. manufacturing can be wrapped up where manufacturing people already and to repair. there's no regulator here that can intervene. there's no higher authority the united nations to intervene to force the europe, ian union and the british government to give away the recipe to the vaccine against corona buyers, there is no higher level. i mean, every, every proposal on the table at the well trade organization that would see these intellectual property listed, but to, to agree that is dependent on the government coming together and agreeing that now over a 100 countries already supporting this proposal, including president biden, including president micron, including the russian government, including the chinese government government, just a handful less like the u. k. and germany who was founding in the way. if they shifted we could get a consensus and we could get things moving as quickly as possible. they need to get,
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they need to start blocking this proposal. and i thank you. thank you very much. after the break, 10 years after the george clooney in washington sponsored creation of south to done as a light of a new dawn. what next for the country blighted by civil war, corruption of famine and new liberalism all the more can we often part to of going underground ah summer solutions where we focus on the solutions. not so much. the problem, stacy, right. we are joined by jeff booth, author of the price of tomorrow. the
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welcome back. in part one we spoke about vaccine apartheid is richard nations, would vaccines to the detriment of poor ones? but is this merely the way they to a nation? imperialism works is 10 years since the creation of oil rich, south sudan, now auctioning oil contracts on the global market ribbon buy food insecurity in killing the countries future though, be brighter than anyone can imagine. joining me now is south sedans, bastards, london, agnes, all swath. thank you so much master of coming on. people might have heard this out . you don't get george clooney you campaign for the creation of it. how is the 1st 10 years of its existence been years overall? has been going well defined. the challenge is also done has made a lot of progress. as you are aware, we build the nation out of scratch, given the station and do over 50 years. so struggled. i mean,
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you have war 3 and a half 1000000000 barrels a day being produced at the moment. 90 percent of the oil hasn't been extracted yet . i mean, you say it's been going well. why does it have food insecurity? and why? i don't know. take coven, for instance, i was reading, you only had maybe 4 ventilated for a population of 12000000 people. 24 in terms of cabinet. right now we have a lot of until later today, when we shift on the partners and we'll have sort of that issue and it's also done supporting view notate very well, we also have the united kingdom, usertesting, and dario health and education. so the number of different tomatoes has the increase rate of coverage. 19, you also don't need might not be the c via in comparison to other nation, but the impact is rio. yeah. the deaths and no and near as bad as here in britain vegas per capita. obviously, you mentioned british aid. what did you make of this?
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so your counterparts in effect in juba, apparently telling me telling n g o is not to contact me the or especially sky news, about any discussion of the foreign aid cuts from london. i have no comment on that. you k as and you know they have their division because the aide comes from them. however, creating an impact on nations such as the republican sauce so done, which is a developing state in comparison to develop nations. so what are things also known in particular day attention being drawn to the money aspect is doug and we are faced with natural disasters such as flood low cost. so for the last 3 years there have been have you flooding throughout the
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country. so 7 out of 10 states and water and as we speak, the heavy rainy, sporting a republic. and at the same time these affects their livelihood in terms of food security, income, how small funding skin. because people who do form for fish and sea, not necessarily for export for instance, we do, which we had to look to develop. yeah, i mean, we haven't natural disasters in other countries though, that, you know, obviously affect different places, but then they prepare for themselves. it wasn't able to prepare for the living. we're not able to prepare for the flooding given to what i have noted that it is a new nation build out of scratch. so, and this is the way it comes to health and the capacity building will leave in how to mitigate this flood. because he's not just, you know,
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it's a flood. most of the country seating on the water. i mean, eritrea has a new country. it has no food insecurity at all and doing health care. you don't think that part of the problem and sad sudan is this reliance on washington consensus partners like london and the european union. more than more than the tilting to beijing, which i know is a massive invest in a growing investor. and as i noted, social dining marriage out of a long struggle. so building institution takes time and currently the government through our region, we actually have region 2040. well we have, we did look into how to develop agriculture using their money from the oil.
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basically, process of diversifying the economy, which would lead to the reduction of what he sells. so that being sounds proficient instead of relying on 8. but i noted earlier the lundy is vast vaught of time. so small farming skill makes a difference, such as backyard funding. you know, it's also done. you can throw anything on the ground, any gross. so the line is a lot of time. so our main problem is the flooding and the natural disaster. or some might say your main problem is being so geo strategic there in africa and having oil in the 1st place is just go back a little. i mean, is it was the end of the ethiopian trail war, important for the creation of south to done is that, is that part of the context of the creation of your country is also done
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per se thing was not created. i came through a friend of the people in the south, so down struggled through a long civil war. we can lead to didn't know where she ations and fell, so dining independence merge through random which marks day july 9th, reverse. but in the armed fighting, i mean we know from wiki leaks, julian, a son is currently in jail in london. of course, revealing that the ca paid people in south to don's army to, to fight for the creation as well. and to the, the circumstances in which the referendum began, and in that aspect, we grateful for the friends of sol. so don't such are you, kate? he's 30 some friends or social than us is a friend of 1000 down. the people are also done with the one on the front line day
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died over for last over 4000000 lives to arrive, where we are. therefore, we are grateful for us and friends who stood with us during this trial. i mean, you say historical friends with the u. k. i mean, anyone who knows the colonial history of that area once done knows we slaughter and atrocities committed by british colonialism in what is now subsidized, actually, or they forgot that, well, i mean, on the other mega see, has its own history. or in fact, you know, that the creation of what i'm, which i correct is that it's not the creation per se, because the people of south would died for the, for these come mean, historically good relationship with london. i mean, you're going to attach. 5 the lord kitchener in juba, presumably, i mean you don't amend the relationship only by creation of the statute for them.
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but we have a good relationship with the u. k. we have an embassy and before that you k give social access to half emission in the united kingdom and this one before and that a friend after the signing of the comprehensive piece algorithm and in 2005, i don't know whether it amuses you that britain has a few problems with chinese investment in the past few days. big bosses of virtual meeting with the chinese government communist party and at the same time, under pressure from washington, arguably, britain is that the ban. i have some chinese companies, is that the same in south sudan because it goes to your president. salvage has shut down oil production with a chinese investment and then reopen it. these pressures similar between britain
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and says, so don, in this geo political war between washington emerging in relation to investment south. so that is open to investors. meeting is open to the entire universe. and not we are ready to reinvent men when you came with china as well as washington and whoever. why, why did the president have to shut down the chinese oil facilities and then reopen them? i mean, is the problem here that the people that give you the aid money? do the talking and prevent development in south sudan? oh, wow. can you making clear when, when the chat 2 years ago, 2 and a half years ago, president suffolk, you shut them down under pressure from washington, and then said, actually we are going to reopen it. and of course now there's massive chinese
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investment, hopefully coming into your country. but as you are aware, you've been before being dependent, my deloitte, actually the investment or the chinese investment. so and also our friends, such as the us, was offering the block, troy, and so others are willing to come invest in the oil industry. they're welcome to come to 1000. i mean, you don't think you're close relationship though with washington creates problems. i mean of venezuela is the country with the biggest known oil resources. do you think south sudan would be able to do a deal for oil infrastructural investment in your country while london and washington are looking on by the birth? johnson wants to overthrow the venezuelan government. he's talked about that. no, but he said, well,
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it's all tables for what you've done in london to invest in social and he's not like would injecting them. we are waiting if they are ready and you saying that british companies are welcome to get these new bids for these 5 blocks. and 74025000 square kilometers. have just about to go they are welcome to south to down and invest. come to invest in the oil industry in agriculture and minerals and different resources that we have there was i just, i just finally the environmental degradation of the country, the settlements paid by british oil companies. i is the government going to protect the environment of don, is it as it allows investment from british companies? we have ministry of environment. i'm sure. father street as well as the ministry of petroleum on commissions that are concerned with that effect. and we
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debt we call for capacity building in the area of the environment master, thank you. and that's for the show will be back on wednesday when the un security council meets to discuss the world's worst humanitarian crisis. yemen whose was fueled by british weaponry until then keep in touch by all our social media channels, subscribed to the channel on youtube, and let us know whether you think that saddam should pursue in on the lines path or a prosperous future. ah, ah one, i make no, certainly no borders and the blind number please. as a mortgage, we don't have authority. we don't actually, the whole world needs to take action and be ready. not
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