[000:00:00;00] the who's i'm action returns here we're going underground on the day of you get prime minister bars johnson 0 gold freedom day. corona virus announcement as we dig up the stories, the elite don't 20 to find coming up in the show. will the u. k. be returning to a policy of heard immunity is big pharma, monopolies counts, the billions they've made from vaccinating the world's richest countries, while the poorest become a playground. for covariance, we are skulks family policy, lead to the people's vaccine alliance. and 10 years after the creation of the world, the newest countries out to done, we talked with new ambassadors in the core to st. james, about whether it's future will be it's washington consensus, past or as an african oil soup about all of them all coming up in today's going underground. first. today, board johnson leading

a country with one of the worst corona virus. death tools in the world, arguably tells britain if he is imminently to let corona virus run through the population as part of a policy of her immunity. no surprise then that in the liberal policy of competition versus cooperation, governs you games when it comes to the global south and vaccination. joining me now from the wife who's the policy leads to the people's vaccine. the lads knock sam's health policy advisor, anna merritt, and i thank so much for coming on. what is the people's vaccine alliance? so we see johnson every day tells the nation here that we have one of the best vaccine rollers in the world. say the people that seen the global movement, a global campaign of organizations, individuals with chapters all over the well and supported by many current president, some prime ministers as well as former needed a nobel laureate. i'm basically what the people back in is the last thing that's available to everybody on the planet,

free of charge and the accent is according to need and not ability to pay. and what we have is the absolute opposite of that right now. we have seen an extreme back being an equality that not only lives the risk in many of the poor countries in the world, but is actually continuing to be a threat for all of us. because we know that unless we get back to everyone, unless everyone is protected, then none of the say, well i know china is administered at least a 1000000000 vaccines. i mean what you just said that that's exactly why the g 7 hosted by bars johnson and coldwell said we're going to we're, we're going to give out free vaccines to the book delay so you should be happy with that. so i have to say that, you know, if we look at the level of need to get them from the control, the, the trickle of charity that was offered at the g 7 is nothing short of a monumental failure. in our opinion. you know,

we need another 1000000000 and i'm the g 7 off adult actually less than a 1000000000 in donations with no urgency in terms of when the nations are going to be made. and the reality is that donation will be picking loosely needed now because we are seeing that the rates rise in some of the countries, but they're not going to fix this crisis to be back. we actually need the g 7 countries to box the listing of the patrons on the fact that the science a know how can be shed throughout. well, we can get more qualified manufacturers making them run production. that's the only way that we're going to get back to back to make everybody and this i'll get to intellectual property. and in a 2nd, surely these g 70 doesn't know what you are talking about in this phrase. it's so often used about when safe, et cetera. at china, it exploded, 48 percent of the vaccines. it produced britain in the united states. i don't know

whether, you know, how many they've, i mean it's reportedly as 0. why would they not do what you are saying given that it will harm their own economies? well i think what we're saying is we actually seen a divider in the us president have actually a read to the proposal that we lift the patients on the batting the rest of the g 7 are either sitting on the fence or in the case as far as johnson, and i'm awfully opposed to this proposal i'm, we can only put that down to narrow back the nationalism and government missing a profit, interest. the big pharmacy corporations ahead of global interest in terms of guessing, i guess, in this pandemic, under control. and we really need to see the government, the german government stopped blocking these proposals that would ramp up supplies

on the right side of history. now if we've done this a year ago, we would be in a different position. now we would have so many more doses being made developing countries we have in a short supply. * for themselves, yes, 12 months after all those commitments that the best thing would be a global public good. and they're still standing in the way of boxing in developing countries. i mean, i've seen case street in washington dc and the massive big farm lobbying firms. i mean, you saying that the big firm and lobbying in london in brussels is, is worse than that in the united states, so that joe biden was able to, as you say, unlike britain in the you offer some kind of intellectual property waiver. i think i think the fall, my lobby is we all and i was incredibly strong in the us on behalf i explained why the us president is not doing enough to turn those words into action at the well trained organization. but yes, the bama lobby is incredibly strong in europe. europe has the you have

a very checking history of putting intellectual property roles in the way of access and developing countries. i've have k. so we need to switch thought that we must learn from history. 20 years ago, we had a huge crisis down to have a we had a 10000000 people die on fairly well. there was treatment available that could have saved them yet. the pharmacy to monopolies refused to lower, their prices refused to allow generic manufacturers to make those treatments. once that decision was changed, we have seen millions of life saved. we need to do the same again. now, ironically, these country is not doing what you want them to really effect be actually felt by global capitalism. is that why even the i m f w t o and will bank seem to be supporting what you're saying?

yeah, i mean, i think i can make it easy to, to fail to tackle baffin inequality. the, the i m f is that the cost to the global economy side will be in the region of mine, trillion dollars. we're already seeing in the whole of the economy to laugh it's not in the interests of all of us to protect the i'm watering profit, the just a handful of people. corporations who are very successfully creating new 1000000000 as we speak, while the rest of the economy. and that means job losses. that means poverty rising and we already said, call it the rising for the 1st time in 2 decades in developing countries. the economic consequences, the social consequences of a failure to absolutely we need to see some urgency. we haven't seen that yet. we need, i'm on bars, don't seem to get on the right side and support the missing of the patients on

these batting. i mean, we've heard on this program has some people are accusing kovacs of being an entire failure altogether. but i mean, johnson has pledged 30000000 doses through kovacs any point in that initiative. even yes, it did say k boxed is an important mechanism. in fact, many developing countries, it's the only source of supply. unfortunately that supply has just been trickled today. and so the foundation problem there is that came back to failed to challenge the pharmaceutical monopolies. they have basically just raise money, different corporations, what they want, and come back to the back of the key for those back thing supplies, while pharmaceutical corp, prioritize back contracts with rich nations where they can make the most profit that are always going to do that. and that's why we need, we need to, to

a new model of more distributed manufacturing around the world. you know, the, well, it's currently dependent on just a handful of corporations who are calling all the shots. they get to decide how many get may, what price is charged and who gets to buy them. and that will always mean that the mechanisms like that for developing countries and developing countries themselves will always be about to be key. you see some a saying that government scientists, i mean today there's this announcement about what people are using. the johnson administration of pursuing a heard immunity strategy. government scientists, many of them i do, the big pharmaceutical companies may be saying quiet lead to ministers and politicians look to many vaccines. you're just going to create variance that heard immunity be the strategy rather than more vaccinations. i'm not,

i don't know whether i can comment on what find the same to governments change many of those conversations that behind by the door. well, i can't say is that the people being alliance, a leading that could be me on that it's from around the well, just a few months ago, back in march. and 2 of them said, unless we tackle this been inequality, we all going to see that being resistant, rare variance within 6 to 12 months. is that right? that with that very frightening prospect that we will feedback the resistance variance on our sure. enrich kind of cheese that how, you know, successfully rolled out the back seeing where we is feeling protested. we could see the very end the right. by autumn when i'm the devastation that will bring, it just doesn't bear thinking about, okay, trying to be positive for 2nd. do you not think that the global south will learn

from this and begin to understand the importance of local infrastructure, pharmaceutical manufacturing? maybe they'll get leaked blueprints to these patient did vaccines and start working for themselves, rather than relying on handouts from, well, it wouldn't be in the via the i m f from the g 7 countries. so, you know, i think we need to be clear that there is already a very strong back been manufacturing based in many developing countries. india, if you look at in the navy, those governments are now saying already we can make these, you know, we have proven science that was largely publicly funded. and let's not forget, the vaccines were funded by the taxpayers files we share. now with those qualified manufacturers, we could see production in developing countries right now. within a matter of loans, those manufacturers are coming. who would think we can make them as long as you client base already exist without,

without that we need more investment in manufacturing. in developing countries across africa, the african union has a target of making 60 percent of its own vaccines. within the next few decades, bishop target it's the right water. but those countries will need support and we need and they need the science now. manufacturing can be wrapped up when manufacturing foss, people ready, and to repair. there's no regulator here that can intervene. there's no higher authority the united nations to intervene to force the european union and the british government to give away the recipe to the vaccine against corona virus. the reason why i leveled, i mean every, every proposal on the table at the well trade organization that would see these intellectual property listed. but to agree that is dependent on the government

coming together and agreeing that now over a 100 countries already supporting this proposal, including president biden, including president micron, including the russian government, including the chinese government government. just a handful less like the u. k. and germany who was standing in the way, if they shifted, we could get a consensus and we could get things moving as quickly as possible. they need to get, they need to start blocking this proposal. and i thank you. thank you very much. after the break, 10 years after the george clooney in washington sponsored creation of south to done as a light of a new dawn. what next for the country blighted by civil war, corruption of famine and new liberalism? all the more can we help in part 2 of going underground? ah, the american foreign policy struggles to come determine with washington,

the dentist and others are thinking about the future. how will this country interact with the world and the region also in update angeline songs, this travesty in crime against humanity continues. she won't look for simple thing a little slow, letting the little girls come by susan. well, the girls can go and see me when you switch to a human meeting in the room. initial pathetic female spelled on the one, let me know which one was gonna fill in. 2 for me and then we can get you to this new move when you finish the initial begin, we lose you initially. it could have done on the,

on the financial young who lose you lose could put it in you could shoot. yeah. when we took the lower with the welcome back and part one we spoke about vaccine deposit is richard nations. hold vaccines to the detriment of poor ones. but is this merely the way nature nation imperialism works is 10 years since the creation of oil rich sudan. now auctioning oil contract on the global market ribbon buy food insecurity and killing the country's future though, be brighter than anyone can imagine. joining me now is south sedans, new investors, london, agnes, all swath. thank you so much. i master of coming on people might have heard this out. you don't get george clooney you campaign for the creation of it. how is the 1st 10 years of its existence been 10 years overall?

has been going well defined. the challenges also have made a lot of progress. as you are aware, we build a nation out of scratch, given the devastation, undo over 50 years of struggle. i mean, you have worth 3 enough 1000000000 barrels a day being produced at the moment. 90 percent of the oil hasn't been extracted yet . i mean, you say it's been going well, why does it have food insecurity and why? i don't know, take covert, for instance, i was reading, you only had maybe 4 ventilated population of 12000000 people. 24 in terms of cabin right now we have 11 to let us and thanks to the well wishes on the partners. and we'll help sort of that issue. and it's also done supporting view notate very well . we also have the united kingdom usertesting and dario health and education. so

the number of different tomatoes has increased rate of coverage. 19. you also don't need might not be the few via in comparison to other nation. but dame is rio . yeah. the deaths and no. and near as bad as here in britain, a catheter, obviously you mention british aid. what did you make of this for your counterparts in effects in juba. apparently telling me telling n g o is not to contact media, especially sky news, about any discussion of the foreign aid cuts from london. i have no comment on that. you k as and you know, they have their division because the aide comes from them. however, creating an impact on nations such as the republic of south so done, which is a developing state in comparison to develop nations. so what i think also learning

for people not be attention being drawn to the money aspect is doug and we are faced with natural disasters such as flog low cost. so for the last 3 years there have been have you flooding throughout the country. so 7 out of 10 states and water and as we speak, the heavy rainy sporting the republic. and at the same time, these affects their livelihood. in terms of food security, in terms of small funding skin. because people do form for fish and sea, not necessarily for export for instance, we do, which we had to look to develop. i mean, we haven't natural disasters in other countries though, that, you know, obviously affects different places, but then they prepare for themselves. it wasn't able to prepare for the living.

we're not able to prepare for the flooding given to what i have noted that it is a new nation build out of scratch. so, and this is the way it comes to health and capacity building live and how to mitigate the flood because he's not just you know, flood, most of the country sitting on the water. i mean, eritrea has a new country. it has no food insecurity at all and health care. you don't think that part of the problem and sad sudan is this reliance on washington consensus partners like london and the european union. more than more than the tilting to beijing, which i know is a massive invest in a growing investor and added on as i noted, so also donnie manage out of

a long struggle. so building institutions takes time. and currently the government through our region, we actually have vision 2040. well we have, we did look into how to develop agriculture using their money from the oil. basically process of diversifying the economy, which would lead to the reduction of poverty. sol, so that being some sufficient instead of relying on 8, but i noted earlier, delani is vast, verifying so small, farming scale makes a difference, such as backyard finding, you know, in cell. so down you can throw anything on the ground. i need gross. so the line is one time. so our main problem is the flooding and date of

the natural disaster. or some might say your main problem is being so g, o strategic there in africa and having oil in the 1st place is just go back a little. i mean, is it was the end of the ethiopian trail war, important for the creation of south to done is that is that part of the context of the creation of your country is also done. the 1st thing was not created. it came through a friend of the people who also struggled through a long civil war. we like to didn't know where she ations. i'm so so i mean in dependence merge through that random which marks the july 9th reverse center. but in the armed fighting, i mean we know from wiki leaks, julian assigns is currently in jail in london, of course, revealing that the ca paid people in south to don's ami a to,

to fight for the creation as well. and to the circumstances in which the referendum began, and in that aspect, we ungrateful for the friend so, so, so don't thank you. k, historical friend or social than us. is there a friend of thousands of them, the people who fell down with their one on the front line. they died over for we lost over 4000000 lives to arrive, where we are. therefore, we are grateful for us and friends who stood with us during this trial. i mean, you say historical friends with the u. k. i mean, anyone who knows the colonial history of that area once done knows we slaughter and atrocities committed by british colonialism in what is now subsidized, actually, or they forgot that mean call on the other mega c has its own history. or in fact, you know,

that the creation of the house with which i corrected that it's not the creation per se, because the people of south with and died for the, for des, carmine historically good relationship with london. i mean, you're not going to. 5 statues and lord kitchener in job presumably. i mean you don't amend relationship only by creation of statute for instance. but we have a good relationship with the u. k. we have an embassy gilba. and before that, you k give them access to half emission in the united kingdom and this one before a data friend, them after the finding of the comprehensive piece of limb and in 2005. i don't know whether it amuses you that britain has a few problems with chinese investment in the past few days. big bosses of virtual meeting with the chinese government communist body. and at the same time, under pressure from washington,

arguably britain is that the ban. some chinese companies is the same in south sit down because it goes, you're presidents of a gear, have to shut down oil production with a chinese investment and then reopen it at least pressure similar between britain and says saddam in this geopolitical war between washington emerging in relation to investment so, so i'm use open to investors, meeting is open to the entire universe and not we, we are ready to invest in the new game with china as well as we do washington and whoever. why, why did the president have to shut down the chinese oil facilities and then reopen them? i mean, it is the problem here that the people that give you the age money, do the talking and prevent development in south sudan. oh

we can you making clear when, when the chat 2 years ago, 2 and a half years ago, president suffolk, you shut them down under pressure from washington and then said, actually we are going to reopen it. of course, now there's massive chinese investment, hopefully coming into your country. but as you are aware, you've been before a day dependent my deloitte, actually the regimen was a chinese investment. so, and also our friends, such as the us, was offered a blog oil. and so if others are willing to come invest in the oil industry, they're welcome to come to 1000. i mean, you don't think they, you're close relationship though with washington creates problems. i mean, of venezuela is the country with the biggest known all resources. do you think it's out to dom we'll be able to do a deal for oil,

infrastructural investment in your country while london and washington are looking on by birth, johnson wants to overthrow the venezuelan government. he's talked about that. nobody said, well, it's all tables for what you've done in london to invest in social and he's not like injecting them yet waiting. if they are ready and you saying that british companies are welcome to get these new bids for these 5 blocks and the 74025000 square kilometers. have just about to go they are welcome to south to down and invent world come to inventing the oil industry in agriculture and minerals and different resources that we have. i just, i just finally, the environmental degradation of the country. the settlements paid by british oil

companies. i is the government going to protect the environment of don, is it as it allows investment from british companies? we have ministry of environment. i'm sure. father street, as well as the ministry of what's going on on commissions that are concerned with the effect. and we doubt we've called full capacity building in the area of the environment. mazda, thank you. and that's for the show will be back on wednesday when the un security council needs to discuss the world's worst humanitarian crisis. yemen who's was fueled by british weaponry until then keep in touch by all our social media channels, subscribed to the channel on youtube. and let us know when you think that saddam should pursue in on the line for a prosperous future. ah, ah. rather driven by

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