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called actually the one of the strongest open government laws ever passed by congress can, can represent, was passed in the week of the movie was created for a few our congress, jessica and congress. and they, they passed the act and it allowed them to declassify documents and do some limited investigation. it lasted for 4 years from 94 and 98 and uncovered quite a substantial bit of work. but unfortunately, the american media did not report it to the public, it was buried, forgotten in the memory hole. let's become the j a k case. so in 2013, i was pretty frustrated when all the networks in the united states celebrating the 60 anniversary of kennedy's assassination. none of them mentioned the alternate theories or my film. and basically i was interviewed for almost an hour and a half when tom broke out of nbc and they cut it down to
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a 2032nd clip. it hasn't been the media has not been balanced. they're still referring to the warren commission as if it's at some kind of accurate document. whereas there has been 3 official investigations resulting from that murder. we are trying to say ok, let's be honest. here is what we found. and we're putting all this information in most of this information in one film to our launch. i'm very proud of this documentary and it really raises many issues, the united states presidency since john kennedy. he was the last president to really work for peace in the world. he was looking, as i said, from this day tant, and he was withdrawn among other things from vietnam. this has been disputed when the film came out in 91. and now we have more evidence from the declassified files that it was definitely happening because robert mcnamara wrote a book in 95, robert magna was his defense secretary. and he said that without doubt,
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kennedy was withdrawing. and even if we were to lose that war, we would withdraw that the enemies were going to handle this war from now on. after that, mcgeorge bundy was a national security advisor for jeremy, came out with his book and said the same thing, although the bundy was against the withdrawal. he definitely sent it. also we have a phone call in there from lyndon johnson bolling out mcnamara and saying, you know, i never wanted to withdraw like you guys, i never agree with you and kennedy. when you said we have that phone call on team. so this is evidence is intractable that american historians have been denied it, you know, really denied. this is a shame, it'll change the young historians will be coming around because those on the left around the world will think of kennedy and go, we'll just look at the record. he increase the number of devices to vietnam. he didn't sign the civil rights act. he, he was the instigator of match ho brinkman ship with chris chef over the cuban
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missile crisis, which you can say he and cruise ship came, save the world because that the, his plan, the pentagon, the generals, were pushing kennedy to go into cuba to invade, to drop a nuke on cuba. there was a lot of pressure on kennedy for years. for 3 years, kennedy made 11 or 12 decisions not to send combat troops. he did send advisers because that was done because of the eisenhower administration in bomb and in the vietnam war. and with the french, remember, there's a whole history here. kennedy was in vietnam in 1954 as a young senator, and saw that he was an anti colonialist. and he saw the french army struggling, and he thought it was ridiculous, or he was a smart young man. he went to algeria in go to alger minutes speech about algeria condemning the french army in their war. and algeria, colonialism did not work for him. remember, he was irish,
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he was an english. and he had an, in an attitude, a rebellion against the colonial world. he did not want to see this, continued he, great relations with africa, the lumber affair, willie destroyed his. i mean, he was upset beyond belief at numbers, murder, c, i was involved. kennedy was working for peace on every level, indonesia, he had a great relationship with the non, to him was a mistake. and he was, he had to withdraw quietly. he had to, he couldn't put it up for a vote because he was gonna come up for a vote in november 64, which is a few months away. he went about this deliberately signed in an order to withdraw the 1st 1000 troops by christmas. 63, the 2 days after he was killed was count contradicted by johnson, lyndon johnson. so any historian who says there was some continuity between lyndon johnson and john kennedy, its rubbish, the number of course, the leader assassinated by us back forces pressing terrible,
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terrible times for congo. what does the evidence suggests then, about the involvement of lyndon johnson? am gerald ford in the cover up let alone allen dulles of the ca who was sacked by the government, john kennedy? it should disgrace. the 1st of all that lyndon johnson appointed allen dulles who was fired. i can, and he is the chief of the cia kennedy, vowing to shatter the ca, into a 1000 pieces. dallas was put on the board with the warren commission at 7 people and controlled a lot of it controlled all the information coming from the cia to the board, making sure that nothing derogatory or anything about assassinations abroad was mentioned to these other commissioners is a big big difference make, you're right there. and top of that, lyndon johnson has to be looked at as part of
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a cover up. that's not to say he was enrolled the assassination because we can prove that. but then johnson was about to be fired as vice president, that we know. and he wanted this thing to go away. he didn't, he said, we don't want to war with russia. we don't want to accuse russia that was kind of an excuse to, to a point and a point, the warren commission, they wanted a peaceful transition. that's what they, that was amiss. johnson would take over and continue kennedy's policies. by the way, you mentioned them, all right, but we go into that in a little section where kennedy is, is praised by martin luther king for his advances on the civil rights front getting those students a negro students into colleges in the south, which is quite a feat with george wallace in alabama. wallace was an enemy of kennedy and vowed that he would bring, bring them down, that he would say he would, he would effect abode in 60 for chinese and
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a lot more than is recognized. and this is wrong. it's really wrong that he is considered macho macro president only because he's younger. i remind you, he was a combat veteran of world war 2, and decorated and knew he didn't trust his generals. this is true after the bay of pigs disaster room where he was lied to by allen dulles. he said to his, to several members of his intimate circle that the generals were, were full of it, and that he would never trust generals because they'll march, you know, war there'll be a bunch of parades. and then of course, you're, you're stuck with the attrition of war and the damage it does. so he had many enemies on the pentagon and many enemies in the cia there were people inside his own administration who were, i would say, were willing to betray him. and the evidence, the evidence suggests that the assassination was jewel use. i mean, they could have just poisoned him if they wanted to stop jack kennedy introducing
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a pax americana in the white house. this was to make out it was a pro cuban assassin and therefore should enable involvement against fidel castro. it's not the simplest way to if you want to blame it on alone, not that would be the place to do it. do it in a crowd. that's why i would say, it's also in a 2nd hand to attempt a warning warning to other people, including lyndon johnson, not to cross a certain line. when you blow off a president's head in the middle of the motorcade, which is a very organized black off. so much has to be done. the security along the route was change the parade route was changed. the all the mechanics of that day were controlled and was, was part of an operation. and when that happened, i think it was very clear to the american people subconsciously, maybe that there were forces larger than any one man that were telling us that this,
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that this was a this is a change for change in our system. incense, a sense of democracy went out because actually after that, kennedy no american president, not one. and you can go down the list was able to make, implement any changes inside these, the military structure of the economy or the intelligence at sector the, the news to the agencies of government were, were untouchable. their budgets were never cut. although kennedy tried to cut a budget to shatter it into a 1000 pieces. his directives were reversed by lyndon johnson. everything that kennedy did accept civil rights was reversed by johnson, including aid for his progress, reliance, and last progress in south america. including his african initiatives, including his indonesia initiatives, johnson, $180.00 degree uter. another thing that we get into is lee harvey oswald, we,
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we are access now declassified. we've information. and then the cia was quite aware of his new where he was supervising him from 195863, which makes him an asset of the c. this is incredible. and also we know that jack ruby was to see was an f b. i in form, so we, the intelligence agencies are involved with these people from the beginning until leanne us. so we know that as well. this is crucial, was not on the 64 when the shots were fired because nobody saw him, the 3 people in the 3 women who worked on the 4th floor, they testified them testified, and their testimony was changed by the warren commission. and we tracked them down, another researcher, track them down in 1990 and got a strain. and the news is that these 3 women went down the stairs right
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away. did not see be hungry. oswald, on the stairs and they, they testified and sign on, but there was never listen to by the warrens which that kind of changing the witness statements is very important to this case. all of i have to stop you there for a 2nd. we'll hear more from all of us going up in a short break the when alex should say wrong. why don't just don't yes to shape out. the thing becomes the after kid and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves world apart, we choose to look for common ground in
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ah, no, you don't do it. you know it, uncle nice number didn't, but when we got home, i don't, i don't gonna don't go down the phone that i'll use enough for the only i get like, i mean it was that i didn't find the article most of it sort of it didn't go to the middle initial with those who knew put that all along. plenty puzzled initials for this particular
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use when i would show the wrong when all just don't the rules. yes. to see out, the thing becomes the after kid and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves world apart, we choose to look for common ground in the welcome back. i'm still here with all of us still in the director of j, f. k and i, j k revisited through the looking glass premiering at the cannes film festival. all of them towards the end. i'll give you the documentary. you have robert kennedy son saying that that robot kennedy's 1st reaction to news of the assassination of j. f
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. k. was to phone the ca and more or less did they do it? who conducted his heart was his actual cool. i mean, robert kennedy junior, very young. he said that to us he tells us the story. robert kennedy suspected something on day one. and jackie kennedy and him wrote a note soon thereafter to run to kosher. in the soviet union tell him that they knew that this was not russian plot to to kill kennedy. that in fact, it was right wing group in the united states. they sent in the letter and had done this. there was a correspondence between the kennedys and cruise shop that had been going on before the assassination. is an interesting sign angle to put in. robert kennedy makes very clear that his father, in $68.00 was running for president on part of that agenda was that he was going to revisit, going to enact policies that had begun under john his brother. and then he was,
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among other things, going to look into the assassination again because he never was, never believed the warren commission. among other things, he knew something was up. and then for that reason i do believe the robert kennedy was killed in cold blood. and quickly because they knew what was at stake if he got into office, there would be hell to pay because the so called mainstream media that are lied to us about iraq lied to us, arguably bad syria. they are very quick to say and their co, james woolsey this year, who of course said, of course, this was a soviet plan gone wrong to killed j. f k. they said they said robert kennedy was the attorney general for johnson if, if robert kennedy felt so strongly about as he could have prosecuted, the people that were involved in the, the real people who were involved in jeff cases as
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a nation. i did tell you that there was a phone call. we haven't, we have the voices on tape where linda johnson clearly tells robert mcnamara. this was a bad idea, withdrawn from vietnam. that how much clear can you be that johnson did not agree with these policies? and he used to use the us as a nation rather quickly to take control. and within 2 days, issue issued national security action memorandum, $273.00, which reversed which basically set up a new militancy in the american position. india now allowing us forward to conduct air patrols and naval patrols along the noisy enemy's coast. then ended in the tonkin bay buck debacle in august of $64.00 in the fall flag. it's now increasingly called last night and operation. yeah. and that was a basis for the war. but why did law kennedy not do anything? why did he not attorney general? he's gone off on day one. i mean,
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the moment this you have to understand robert kennedy was in conflict with judge hoover, the f b i x is one of his main main agencies. robert kennedy was, had no power after his brother was killed because johnson took over and jam over was right. it was breathing down robert kennedy's throne. and by the way, the f. b. r. hoover's organization was the main contributor of information to the warren commission. they were feeding them information and we now know from the de classifications in the film that we're showing, that among the things that never showed up in the warren commission was a seebert o'neill report which 2 top agents were there at the autopsy in bethesda, and testified very clearly to there being a massive head wound in the back of kennedy's head that was never seen in the photograph that came out of the official photographs that came out of the autopsy, which indicates a divergence of what people saw with their own eyes. there still some papers that
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were missing there were supposed to be released, obviously were thankful to donald trump for releasing some of them. do you think joe biden is gonna release them? he has till the 26 to make a decision on the release of other ones. tom did say though, because of national security law enforcement in foreign affairs concerned, i have no choice today to accept redactions rather than allow irreversible harm to national security by papers relating to the kennedy assassination release. damage on did back down. he said he was gonna release everything and he did at the last moment, we basically push it into biden's. presidency spine is, administration is now is now illegally illegally, whole withholding those documents from, from us and the people. so whether we'll see them or not, we don't know, we're going to try it. there is a lawsuit coming up against the binding ministration from the citizens. again for the release of these documents which are owed to us. it's ridiculous after 60 years
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to call and talk about national security in this matter. i wondered if the j f. k records active 92, which you, which came back of you are filled. obviously, already the media attacks started on the documentary, even though it's me know, the premiering this week. so this is a 60 year long campaign by mainstream nbc, the new york times. i mentioned back then as being involved in this, we do know from again declassification that the new york times cbs nbc were from day one supported the warren commission because among other reasons, the cbs people, john mccoy's daughter was, he was a warrant. he was a warn report. commissioner, john mccoy and his daughter was working with the president of cbs and was given information on the development of what c b s was doing to her father mccloy. and he
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was interviewed by walter cronkite and it's such and such a web how're that these people are very protected and mccoy. he comes across clumsily, but he's clearly not answering the questions asked for by asked by concrete which are direct saying wasn't there a conflict of interest? and there was a conflict of interest. 3 of the members of the 7 of his, 3 of the 7 members of the commission, john sherman cooper, hale bugs, and most of all, richard russell of georgia. we're had problems with the conclusions and we show from declassified files how their testimony, what especially their questions were erased from the final transcript. meaning they do not appear when russell found out about it. 2 years later, he was furious,
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but it was too late. he talked, we have a phone call with him in written and linda johnson where they're talking about the magic bullet. and he and russell say he just doesn't believe it because it's just incredible. no, no, nobody should like that. nobody. there's no bullet like that made, and johnson himself says, i don't believe it either. i don't believe the same bullets that hit kennedy had conway, that's what he says. so i mean, you have all these rays, all these things that we hear in broad daylight on phones and we see them. and it's quite interesting. the warren commission was believe, was bought by the press and sold to the american public on day one. you have to realize it is 800 page document and coming up 6 months later was a 26 volumes of specific testimony that was not even reviewed because it came later . so the whole thing was sold on day one to as oswald is sole assassin. so and fashion never proved it. we go to the, we go and into all the evidence on us,
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will all the original evidence and we show that it's a sham, that's autopsy trajectories, bullet, rifle, fingerprints. and above all, the autopsy were of a fraud. and they, none of them hold up, they would have been thrown out of court on day one. it's very important information is original evidence. and it's because of declassification. we were able to finally address what they, what the commission, the warren commission was told during employment. and suggestions, suggestions of allen dulles, involved in assassinations on the shell, the goal tryouts in tampa, florida, and chicago. you know that the phrase conspiracy will be used. cars is conspiracy theory. how do we use this phrase then to de, legitimize actual evidence and papers. i mean, no, i mean,
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people wouldn't believe operation, paperclip and mongoose. and, you know, they're bizarre stuff that we now know is fact called conspiracy. there is 1991 and people label you that it's easy to see. i term drug derogation, to, to discredit people. they made it up in 1900 fifties, in science, psychological worth. it makes it, we will call these people, conspiracy theories. okay? that's fine, but we know from history that there's been so many conspiracy is going back to the romans. the greeks beyond. beyond that is a history of conspiracies as the nature of man is no reason not to believe in this case. but when we think we go very far, to prove that it was beyond a conspiracy, it was, it was a conspiracy to kill. and there was a conspiracy to cover him up, which is bigger, with implications for millions and millions, maybe tens of millions of people's lives. so we're going to rely on more
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information perhaps if joe biden, an irish catholic allows the papers to be released. i have to really finish and i've given the catholic, he knows it to john kennedy. yeah, it's true and he's got the irish moves and i would imagine there is some sympathy there. but there's no way that by and who is a cold warriors way battle is going to go up against our structure. after kennedy. i repeat the military sector on the intelligence sack iran such and it became clear that you couldn't not get into there. not any was cutting basis defense, spacious and in our country and abroad. it was by their brilliant troops back from afghanistan. i would like to see by and no further, we have so much and we have a trillion dollar budget now with the military, basically in the contract. so it's a long way to go. but can he hunch that really in an essential way?
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that's what kennedy was doing. he was by firing the cia and his 2 age kimbell and bissell. you can't believe the shock waves he sent through washington. here he is, the young man, after truman and eyes an hour, the young man, 4233 years old. we're starting to change things. the way things were done. he did not believe in colonialism. he did not believe in the cold war. and he was moving away from, he had been silver, and he was educated by the bay of pigs, and above all, by the cuban missile crisis, he was a changed man. now, when just finally, when explosive evidence in black and white is produced, look at julian assange according to the un being tortured here. the founder of wiki leaks. what's gonna happen about the release of this documentary? why are you in can? and why isn't it on all the streaming services in the united states, so everyone can watch it from next week. this in this room was not finance in
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america. we went to the streamers, they turn it down. we were finance out of england. it was ingenious. a new film, the independent film company that financed this film. now when it came to distribution, we don't know what's going to happen in america. we know that we're john and we're selling very well among european countries. i do think an american company would have current would, should have the courage to step up and do this. but the, the climate of the country at this point after 2001, and the increasing conservative approach to government and fear, fear, fear of decline. fear of attack on our values on this is blinding the human. scary and the american government into censorship on youtube, censorship and facebook. censorship of an ex president for 2 years suspended from twitter. it's, it's astounding. i think you're going to and then,
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and then cut off or, and she to a certain degree, they put their pressuring archie in all countries of the world, as you knew, may know, and south america, even so everywhere, america's powerful country. but i don't believe they're going to be able to close this. close this news down, we are going to be released. and we, in england, it's going to be released by altitude in the u. k. and ireland will be the company . they're all of a stone. thank well thank you. actually, for the show will be back on saturday, 42 years with a brutal us back dictator somoza led to miami after the victory, the sound needs to revolution in nicaragua, until then keep in touch with social media and let us know if you believe the official story when it comes to the j. f k. assassination. ah ah
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the she was simply real thing a little funny. i wish i didn't go. well, the longer i was going to go and see me when you have a week when you have a meeting in the room, initial pathetic female field on the one, let me know which finance was going to fail and we'll get you started up and it's going to you soon as you move in to when you mentioned kim illusion initially it was done on the, on the financial young, moody and illusion. but you least could, you could shoot that to the lower the,
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with the injecting pressure to inoculate. again, tell you it governing companies around the globe are showing controversial ads that claim vaccines, the key to regaining freedoms. but put it to sy fi dime, the middle we debate the issue, you're going to create a society. they just choose not to have it. they're creating their own apartheid who needs the perhaps even seen should be happy to say it, but if solely that it is not working. if there is 11 work that can explain it. meanwhile, the world health organization slams wealthy states for the global vaccine disparity and produces 3 increased supplies developing nations. it comes as the regulated.
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