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ah, ah. hello and welcome to the doctor. all things considered rebel russian president vladimir putin has penned a long article on russia and ukraine. needless to say, it is evoked a lot of responses. we tell you why this article is important. also so long angle of merkel, germany's long serving chancellor. what will be her lasting legacy? ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan semi raleigh in budapest. he's a part to gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bob, which is a political adolescent editor, if you know me, internet media project or gentleman cross talk roles and effects,
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that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to george in budapest. well, george, russia always seems to be in the news one way or another. but it's an, it isn't a very different way this time. vladimir putin, the russian president, pen to very, very long article, a very studied article i would say about the relationship that russia has with ukraine now. and it's a, it's at the kremlin dot r u website. it's in english, ukrainian, and of course, russian. it is a vocal enormous outcry and discussion and obviously criticism here. why did he write this article? what's it about and who was directed to go ahead? well, i think the reason he wrote the article is that he is very concerned about the recent development of the, particularly since the, my dad and 2014 mainly the use of ukraine as a battering ram against russia. there's no sign of a baiting,
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whoever is in the white house is continued to be used and he wants to place in his story context. this has gone on for quite a long time. russia and ukraine, russians in the ukrainian people all want people argue that before and, but however, have been times in the past. when outside powers have sought to separate the russians in ukrainians, and particularly to use the ukrainian or russian, you mention the poles. and then of course he went on to the big one, which is austria, hungary, and german and upper best. remember, last year 100 german essentially created ukraine in the world war one. and what's happening now is a continuation of this effort. and he really emphasizes again and again as yes i did pull that,
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he will not tolerate what nato's use of ukraine as basically the kind of a forward base from which to buy the launch tactful, subvert, roger, and that's really what he's, he's concerned with these just simply, russia will not accept this use of ukraine by nature, regard that as an existential threat. ma, what we need to read this too because, you know, there's a number of theories out there. i mean, i think there are 3. i think it's directed to the, obviously the russian people. it was also directed to russians within the sovereign ukraine right now. and also, i think is george's bench. and here is a signal to the west, the ukraine as very special significance, the russians national security and certain things will not be tolerated. go ahead. i think it was primarily read them for the people of your brain at large. not only
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irrational, but also your brains will also suffer because of this terrible situation. i don't think would you expect that any kind of reception, any kind of constraint is reception from the graham government. he actually said, right before, i can recall that you're bringing people are not hostile to russia. they're ukrainian leadership. now, unfortunately, foster russia and they're very responsible, 80 years or friends don't landscape to this article shows that which was not from, you know, just you just said i will read it might have time. and he drew something about, you know, russia and ukraine is being brother, he's drunk about kind an apple. and he said, no, i see, want me to put you in. is the wasting his time on. instead of meeting me. well basically it's different than what zelinski had to say when he was campaigning for
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the cranium. presidency is meant the different thing. well, you certainly asked expecting a sions because everyone knew that he was a russian speaker. i mean, he is common to cobb his company made money on jokes in russian they almost never performed in ukrainian. and people expected him because he is from ukraine from the were wrong. people expected him to be sensitive to the sentiments, always ukrainians. but it's not the 1st time that it's happened. so i mean, coachman problem is to make russian official language in your grade. i mean the 2nd official language and he received a he is electorate in the east. 1 after that, basically young core which progress the same and he didn't do anything almost thing and to fulfill the expectations of. here's electra so in that sense, juliana is not very different from the previous president, but that, you know,
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the bad side with the was i do it is the walk and, and i think you can wait until writing this article where he basically says the russians and you bringing people, he has been waging because he hoped that these feeling the sentiment would express itself in great. but now when you have a drink calling in language rules in ukraine, basically prohibiting the public use russian language. when all the movies have to be docked and ukrainian, imagine, you know, you live in canada and then some assess. first you can't watch american movies for the usa, which say something good about police. and on the 2nd, all the movies strong, the usa will be dumped by our f. this with a thief fall, some excellent. know how would people kind of do it? it's a prejudice. and you know, after 5 years, which is finally decided, it was time to speak out and you know what, what, what i,
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what i find very interesting is that, okay, would you say that you agree, instant ration. so on people and immediate you, the reaction in the west was like, oh, this is a sign will be period is this is so dangerous, you know, mrs. merkel met by them in the washington you know, last week. and she, as they said, the chinese and i, me and rush, he's an enemy and this is not dangerous. this is local or style. you know, basically, you know, by the said that we will not allow china to undermine open free society, which open free society did china destroy the united states. and you will buy subordinate co in 2014 destroyed. and the open democratic society of ukraine, you know, it is no longer due mckorick suffered in a terrible, and these people never apologized for their course. they never do in georgia. what i think is very interesting here is that, why don't we approach it with,
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with great detail and a lot of research in time. and when i've been told we actually wrote in 2. but this is a intra family issue that is talking about here. when you look at, when you look at western policymakers, i think we from nato countries, their interest in ukraine or ukrainian is scans. it's best because your brain is from, from the western perspective, is a cudgel and burn the russian. i've always told this people, for many russians, ukraine is not a foreign policy issues, a domestic policy issue because of the familial relations they have people's relationship to the dom bout and even further into the a hander land of ukraine. and that's why it is so very important to russian for the west. it's just an idea. it's a policy, it's a go ahead. yes, that's exactly the point. and that's a point that makes the gain of the game in this article that the western. and he
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says, the western part, essentially run your grade. i mean, ukraine doesn't be have any sober and it just moment because it is run out of washington and brussels their own. the interest in ukraine is as a way of just pushing russia to the east of eliminating all russian influence out of europe altogether. which is why they're also interested in bella rhodes. i mean was the what the scenario that they played out in 2014, in, in my dance, they want to play out the bellows, the bellows. ukraine will be incorporated within the so the need so you can, russian will be just gone and that's the go. so they have no interest at all in your approach. and the evidence of that is that, look at the disaster. ukraine has experience just one of the 14th. i mean they last year, as you said in this article, it doesn't look to me like interested in getting dumbass back,
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so they're almost lost the dumbass as well. nato in the year can care less. i mean, let's be counter intuitive if they really, really, really cared. they would bring it into the alliance like, but it wouldn't be because of the savings of the ukrainian people. and it's democratic experience. and when they call it the, the revolution of dignity, you know, but they don't, they in that is really, that's the answer. it has nothing to do with ukraine. what do you mean? because it seems to me, again, it was really, they had interest in ukraine. i mean, they never had interest in the people of yugoslavia that had nothing to do with it . okay. they don't care about the people in syria, but they're there. they don't care about the people in iraq, but they stayed there. and then they don't care about the people of afghanistan and there's still some there want to stay there or find a way to stay there. again, these are all countries go ahead. well, i don't know, maybe they, i'd seen them felt, i mean, that the nation build us in washington. they don't,
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they don't want to have good results. but look, look at the fruit. ok. bushnell is now even worse than indeed in the us or canada. you fly. yeah, i mean, the privatization was just after you can only leaves off the area. you know, you grain in the 1st year after my don, it's g d b, i mean big school crania and dog boss, but the g, d. p. all the areas which remain your brain and this is 97 percent of the korean territory. the g d p fell almost 10 percent because ukraine cob all was almost always economic. the russia left their free trade zone with russia. embrace the european union, but the european union did not allow them to do its markets. so it's a tragedy yet, but also geopolitically. i think joe, politically, it's lucy tree for everyone in the national interest. you know, need somebody petrol, wrote an article,
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had learned how to break the code through read walk and ukraine, and the petro writes, and that basically it rushes great shift eastward as he calls. and i mean, embrace in china and gave them all the content. it was an enormous push when, when the last undermined young orange, and basically lives always paid to speak, made ukraine and then russia by, by the way, which is article, if you look at the just to it, he says that we agree that ukraine is a sovereign state, by the way, i have to a little bit argue with the georgia. i think austria hungary not create ukraine. i mean even push control about your grade in the early 19th century, but they certainly did create militant anti ration. ukrainian nation. that identity did not exist in the ninety's, but they created of them independence. they didn't. ok, i mean, anyway, there was a short period after that, lucian,
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when the ukraine was basically ruled by you nationalists about the identity of the type over a 1000000 to bring in there. yes, it was created by, by hundreds basically said that we have your grade, isn't it? because we don't want to be russia. we won't accept or break. we'll continue our discussion on some real and stay with the ah, me ah shoes. the ultimate to cross topler. all things are considered i. peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real names. the
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go back to georgia in budapest, well, anglo merkel. georgia is finally finally leaving the political stage. you know, i have to admit, i had a lot more hope for her in the beginning, mostly for the reason that she comes from eastern germany and i now you play in retrospect, i'll be honest with you about that. you could be more of a bridge, a beach for between east and west, and i was been proven disastrously wrong. ok. she's been in power a long time and i think she leaves with a pretty scanty legacy about a negative one. go ahead. george, very scanty legacy. it really what she's been about is just staying in power, not making any decisions and trying to have it both ways of old times. so she goes to. 2 washington law stripped washington. 5 and sign
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a washington declaration with joe biden, which others, the usual nato piety is about democracy and so on. but basically, what most important, that name is the call of european security that she's actually here. and then she has the insolence to demand that russia continue to provide a gas via the ukraine route. and so no, no, trying to nothing to do with the use of ukraine as a natural gas. i mean, you know, americans are very ignorant about all of this. they were like, it was germany that had went to the russians and said, we want this stream to a pipeline under the baltic because we are worried about the security
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of the actual german industry, which is, you know, basic the powers that powerful german economy based on x, well, it doesn't have secure energy, it's a lot of trouble now. she says, well, we're going to hold the russians feet to the fire. well, germany is not in any position to tell the russians, you know, where, where and how they get, just send an actual guess. i mean, so tell me about merkle. she does list. so i know $32.00, and then she goes off to washington and the rates. the russians are typical of marco was chancellor when there was the illegal change of government in, but she didn't say a word. did she? ok, i mean, that is why germany wanted pipelines because of e u. nato policy, that just stabilized ukraine that made a different trans that necessary for joe. so i think that is really one of the most of the greatest failings of her chancellors him. i mean,
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she bought the ukraine policy, she's trying to save energy policy, and it's not germany. if european why. ok, so the most again, i thought she came in with great hope and it's just kind of a, a whimper as she goes out the door. go ahead. well i, unfortunately i didn't have the same high expectations for in 2005 when she came to power because i speak german and then for the story and for 1003, when i get a truck that had the courage to refuse to go to iraq, and miracle was against it. you know, just look at the article, look at her speech and i want to start. she said, well, i mean she's coming. so she says something like, we have to stay hold to all american and british weiss, well, you know, translation to normal human language that we had to go, that we had to go with them. just like paul did, you know the breeders did,
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and that would have been a disaster for drugs and so i didn't speak patients for her when she came to power 5, but the heart of the full was beyond anything. i would imagine it was. look, what was, you know, europe when she came to power. there were some meetings been russia and the you you know, there they quoted me was about and no one dream dollars had night mass about degree crisis, which she handled terribly, you know, basically dispossession a lot of private individuals who had money in on their bank accounts in cyprus, leases, greece no one could imagine a war and you wore in eastern europe. and let's face it. not only did not say what she actually promoted, the might on her foreign minister of esther male. it came and spoke to the so
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called protest us, who killed 38th ukrainian policeman in the process of this. so cool that last, that actually for almost 5 months, between 2013 and 14 nico at petro, in his article, i think you're very right. you're right that the west repudiated the peaceful condition of power which was agreed and which was signed on the 22nd of february, 2014. immediately after it became clear that critical had a chance to seize total control. the west forgot about the supreme it was medical was the 1st to forget. it was her foreign minister. now the president of germany find was a style she signed this. she guaranteed this agreement between young and their position. and now the western media pretense, it doesn't remember, it portion said that they lost the paper. you know, they were when he will have to produce this document which people saw signed on television. you know, we just lost it, but i can't find it. it's the paper,
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i mean go back to georgia of 2015. they opened the doors, the immigration to europe, but that is, i think that is really the hallmark of history 100 years. now remember her that issue? yes, because of course it was the policy an absolute disaster in itself but. 2 he led directly to the breast, and i mean, if i have not been, she hadn't opened the door. the british was none of them to leave you. and that was a huge calamity for you, because it helped fuel the or bon, who hungary, who now all of the europeans, a little tearing their hair, all this horrible, horrible person. you help creative, he sees on this issue. it was always a nationalist, but this was that this was, you know, meet them, drink room, and it made the thing is, is that she lives every calamity. i mean, she bungled also. li,
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the energy policy because of the she mostly got closed down all the sort of the nuclear power plants. they said ok, we're going to get rid of all the fossil fuel energy. so then she, which is one of the reasons why you move for this not seem to. and now she essentially goes and blames the russians for something that she did. but the straight thing is, is that she has the viable these years. and there you can see the something fundamentally wrong in germany that's listed as the some, the placid complacency of wise and goes on and on in georgia. seems to me it's really interesting and we have the mantra for the establishment of nato, after the 2nd world war and the beginning of the cold war as the keep the americans in the germans down in the russians. thus he is that embodies that, but it's not been necessarily in the national interest of germany or even europe in my mind, me. and so for me, it's a spend force and it's getting negative returns,
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except for, you know, people making money off of this in western journalism and think tanks and things like that. i mean it's, it's a spent force. it's showing, it's not, it's not generating any positive returns of say, with you, george, go ahead. yeah, that's it. and we now look hopefully, well, maybe the next person in away from my go. but chances are the next will be very much like michael will try to have it both ways. well, you know, we need good relations. russia with stability europe. we need to stay with the americans. so that kind of revolution follows the of a demon reverse with gal schroeder because sort of have got some fresh ideas that that's not gonna happen. i mean, the game, you know, whoever like to i am just going to be yeah, yeah let's, let's just next in line speaking in the next person like you and i have talked at great length about how media joker europe's political classes. i think the anglo
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merkel is the queen, mother of the mediocrity that we see in the, of the political class. go ahead. if you want me to cut the long story short what i dislike about what was the worst thing about her? she is a real, alter liberal, she's still a very georgia and that explains all of her favorites. i mean, the look at the political scene in germany when she came to borrowing a 1005 no one could imagine that radical parties would be. she was a 2 party system where the liberals between them, you know, the christian democrats at social numbers. it looked like it would continue. now we have the furniture for germany, which obviously reflects that opinions of many people in germany, especially good relations with russia and the purely defensive role for nato. but the party has been sidelined, i mean the morocco was the 1st time to say that these people are never going to
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have any influence on politics whatsoever. so she, she basically, she's a division figure, she's a hillary clinton on germany. that sounds the other things that george just mentioned there also variable. i mean, she was the more the sanctions again structure that were imposed after 2014 crisis in your, in ukraine. they will range in cost europe, at least $100000000.00 euros. they want to post more because they keep exchanging these sanctions and during your meetings with the buy them, she basically keeps saying that sanctions need to stay. why should something that doesn't produce reported your results? why should state, you know, as and also i think she played a very negative role. you know, you know, i represent your whole that i told you when trump warning tonight the states as given, you know, the german news ranking know, merkle became
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a sort of leader of the free world because she was so i guess you clip you are and now it's saying, well, she spent for mental need her. she wants to have no extra steam to. she has been, we know by them is the lead all the pretty well. so i don't just go, it was just dismissal people, even though it was stuff that you're, i would contest would be my head to say, you know, this can kind of purity your, i think just complete mediocrity all over the place. modeling through and missed opportunities left and right and create and change to the political landscape of germany while we deem is absolutely right. we have people contesting this ideology and the the establishment. and that's all because of merkel over the last 30 seconds got a huge or yeah, there's always been an opportunity for your 2000 independent role between the
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united states and russia. and you know, there are people like my role on occasion before when i did that, you know, the role to quash, anything like that and actually europe into just a slave us of all of the united states. okay. i guess i think that will be her legacy. all right, jim, and that's all the time we have. want to take my guess here in moscow and in budapest, one i think our viewers for watching is here to see you next time. remember across buckles, ah ah, when i would show the wrong one, i'll just don't rule out the thing because the after an engagement equals the trail,
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