people need it, just doing it collectively. there's a need for, for baby products, food baby formulas. so those are the essential items that we are focusing on. i'm about to get into this phase, macau van, and it's full of good being taken to people in south africa. ah, me last week will be very busy over the day, some other days, even the blood moving down. but the up that i very with no way to be pretty good. so good down. but natal guntee completed most of that. but well, well, i've been told me that

i use this now with 2 local students who offered to take us to the local mosque. some way the food has been distributed, people have been coming here for hours and they've come from wide and for some people telling me that they've been in the sky for 2 hours and people haven't eaten for days. you see the shove, the empty after the looting, the shop allowing only a certain amount of time people are pending. bang and there's nothing left phase, no job. so my name hadn't been no nothing. it is nothing. so you came for nothing. yeah. so nothing is that the

place we came to be when was the last 3 days ago, is this the worst ever been? was there was also the never the violence and looting seems to be over for now. but the hunger and impact that it left in its wake is going to be felt for quite some time. paula, paula, you know our, to get closer look at the turmoil which is engulfing the streets of south africa. i'm drained by our shop guard at the founder of champion south africa. shaw, thank you so much for joining us. is our thoughts and prayers. and our attention has been on south africa these past few days. as you've been going through these trials, you know, i want to ask you how divided right now are the people in the street? so is it as simple as duma versus ram opposes supporters? no, i think it's it's too much to suggest that people are divided that we would think

of the american football team on opposite sides of the fence out in the streets. i think for the, for the majority of people in africa, they are united in being south african. they are united in one thing works best for their families. they are united in 124-9212 jobs. they may be divided some of them to be divided in certain strategies, but by a large they'd be united by you may say, okay, well what happened last week and we get to that in a 2nd. but i think overall is a company of 60000000 people is on different nuances, but the general sense of over nation one thing, what's best for the majority of the people of south africa for me remain. i love that message of optimism and i hope that is true. it looks like it could be true because i think that's what every good person wants, regardless of what kinds for you're in. but what did we see then last week? where was this divide? what made people, cuz what i saw was a lot of people are angry on the streets,

but then i saw this overwhelming ground over the weekend. are people angry at the people in the streets that were destroying the property and the businesses does that accurate? well, you know, we don't have a lot of time but, but, but in a nutshell, i mean the actual divide is with a ruling party, the african national congress, a party of nelson mandela, which is very topic because yesterday was international mandela day. once again, it's, he's party that appears to be what appears is divided and as a result of these party being divided with the encumbered president and the full of president and all supporters between the 2 and the ruling party, then as an inability to lead effectively this has been going on for over a decade and that played out with the rest of the former president, put the russian, but in fact will contend to court. the collection case is still going to be heard right and protest against him being arrested. the 1st president arrested in

a democratic south africa and the protest and spoke of interest. something else now read it is whether people opportunistic because of a poverty stricken. and it took advantage of the situation, or whether the site could, i don't really know the president of the country upfront, saying that there was a clear attempt was he call it in. so actually it was played on biased defense minister a couple of days later. in fact, i mean he's, can you say there was an attack on the democracy of south africa, and therefore we need to defend our democracy. now those are the big things that we haven't heard, you know, because the one thing. so that's because had a constitution in the world of discovery, grade bank, great financial institutions. so we have no reason to be concerned that he has been in the 27 years. he give credit for africa has been in existence. ok, so let's actually look at what was going on and the saying this weekend that he

would go after those that did lute those that did destroy property and he would prosecute them. now i get it for 80 president, any country the rest of you are going people that are unhappy with that. do you feel like that actually the folks as the current presence going to go through with his word and well, every repercussions for that is people in some might say we were just expressing our anger at the situation being caused by the government, by what you're saying a contempt of court, not necessarily a full trial has yet to be held well. prosecute, who so, so the 1st month is, if he said there's an insurrection, then you prosecute those who had talked against this, all the interaction. and that's what play out, and that is a political teacher. but if it's true, you have to play that. if you don't play daughter undermined the democratic system, it's the story about prosecuting the people who looted and devastated the poor city of data that we're talking about. thousands and thousands of people not cannot see

that happening on the pictures. as i play out is now playing out. he's not going to prosecute the people, not at all. it's either the leadership, if you believe that the link, but we have to pull the link. but the leadership inside the people as part of the grant insurrection. now, we don't really know if it's actually true, because the prism itself is said that they were caught unawares. the candidate didn't know of that. so there's lots of things that in fact, this left them guessing and therefore less probably you and i also guessing in terms of what really happened in south africa a week ago. well, it's interesting to see this and similarities of some of the news of, as has happened here in the united states, it's kind of replaying itself over in south africa, real quick for i let you go. do you think any of the events over the weekend will have an impact on the actual trial itself? it ever gets there of zoom? no, i don't. i think they're trying to go ahead as normal because that's what that would expect if we want to maintain an independent judiciary marker, see,

we cannot play down to the point of being emotional about it. i think the most important question beyond the trial is what now for south africa entry that's hosted around the world cup of people football cricket woke up and some of the major events in the family was accused that you would pendle link with with countries that are famine stricken what now for this country that essentially so on the one hand, an extremely rich country but is extreme, well, extreme poverty. and for me, the next question is we talk about it me dress when it comes to cold. 19 the has to be an economy redress in south africa to ensure that the majority of people of this country just as a faith in the democratic south africa. because the reality is 20 years into democracy, south africa, townships which is called putting into locations as you would call it in south africa. so that's because so that's a good topic, right?

all those locations don't the black locations look just like they were 7 years ago . that is a simple issue that obviously people feel like they obviously are economically stable. they take care of the, the land that they're in. asha such a delight to talk to you. you can tell your love and pride for the country that you live in, and we will chat again in the future. thanks for joining. thank you. the investigation by a global media consortium has revealed that malware developed by an israeli company has been used by on journalist human rights activists and political dissidents around the world. now there's this program called pegasus software. we're sold by our surveillance company and so group. and they said to tap into hundreds of devices, revealing personal information of those who were targeted. are huge alex, my hell of edge has the story. it can be described as

a military grade spying tool software that covertly worms its way into your phone. turning your device into a surveillance system which targets you. here's us whistleblower edward snowden. you're talking about the technology. we're back in november 2018. everything in the higher history of your phone. you can immediately copy everything the happenings on your phone from that day forward. every place you go, every one you call everything you read every photo, you take every, you know, audio note that's been on that or actually because they can turn the microphone on remotely. they can turn the camera on remotely, even when you haven't already taken a picture. everything that just passes by this device. now everything that your phone is a part of this company and their customers are now a part of the company that snowdon was addressing. is the n s o group. the software

in question is need pegasus. a recent investigation by a global media consortium has found evidence, the malware from the israeli based firm was used to spy on journalist human rights activists and political dissidence. in total, more than $50000.00 smartphones appear in a list uncovered by the investigation. however, that does not necessarily mean that all the devices were hacked. the people who worked on the report were able to identify more than 1000 individuals in 50 countries who were allegedly selected by n a. so clients for surveillance, according to the washington post, which participated in the investigation. those targeted by the spyware included 189 journalists, more than 600 politicians and government officials, at least 65 business executives, 85 human rights activists, and several heads of state. amnesty international security lab found that 2 women close to slain, saudi columnists, dramatic shogi, were also targeted by the spyware,

including his fiance. soon after his death in 2018, edward snowden great brought up at the end a so group may have also been used by ca, shogi killers. how did they know what his plans and intentions were? how do they decide that he was someone they needed to ask again, who is worth the risk? or the reality is the head bug, one of his few friends and contact using software created minus really company. and you know, we don't know the chain of consequence because this company will never comment on this as an show case. the recent report says, authoritarian governments are months of those who abuse the software, which is sold by n s o. while the report did not list clients, it said many were clustered in 10 countries, including as or by shan, bahrain hungry india conflicts don, mexico, morocco, rolanda, saudi arabia, and the united arab emirates, amnesty international and forbidden stories of paris based media nonprofit

organization, initially had access to the information which they shared with media organizations around the world. and so which in the past has promised a police abuses of a software, has firmly denied any wrong doing. calling the latest accusations false claims for r t and alex mileage. the pope has issued an order which restricts much of the most sacred traditions and a catholic church ceremony. we will explain it justification after the break ah, the ah,

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a pope francis imposes restrictions on a traditional latin mass. so why the upper well r t correspond natasha suite has more on why traditionalists are less than thrilled . so francis is restricting the celebration of wanton mass in an attempt to unite the church, but many catholics remained split over the decision i live or put us here any minute or 2 weeks after surgery that removed a portion of his colon poke. francis resumed his weekly appearances from a vatican window sunday, while the 84 year old sounded cheerful. one of his most recent decisions have brought about the vision and the church. but his goal is to bring believers together. just days before on friday, put francis said he was researching celebration of the lots and mass. this was the church. it's the standard form of worship until the $900.00 sixty's awesome. conservative catholics are outraged by the decision. the pope believes the move will unify the church. the pope said he made a quote from decision to immediately overturn from rolands in 200-7988. that

liberalize the availability of the mass celebrated before 1970. in a letter of the pope sure, the feeling he had for a need to intervene. now, traditional math celebration will come under the discretion of the dias see in bishop, the bishop will also have authority over granting permission. who would like to celebrate the old mass? the bishop is to designate one or more locations where groups can gather to celebrate. however, it won't be allowed in parish churches. document is also prohibiting the erection of new personal parishes, importers of allotted mass, or calling the pope's new restrictions harsh. however, supporters of the change agree, the church culture is holding tradition and customs above worship. and while there may be a separation of church and state in the us politics seem to play a role among american catholics. the lots and mass is highly preferred among conservative catholics, while liberal catholics tend to favor contemporary styles of prayer. now, when unifying the church as one bodies hallmark calling for clarification on the

new rules and how they should be implemented, reporting for the choose and suites r t. to give us the 360 view of the pope's controversial decisions i'm joined now by ed martin present associates, please eagles, and tim gordon, author of catholic republic. why america will perish, is out room. thanks for joining me. both. cam, since you're new, i'm going to, i'm going to 3rd 1st to you. i have to wonder why should church members or if they should be concerned by pope, for instance, is new decree. yet the sincerity of the pontiff is what's under question. in the wake of tradition on his custodian, if pope francis's sincerely concerned by the radical traditionalist who since the release of the notice or to me say the new mass in 1969. if he wants to curtail the schismatic attitude of the radical traditionalists,

he's not punishing them today because such schismatic. falk will just continue to celebrate the latin mass where and when they they deem to the ones that he's punishing that, prove that he's not being sincere. in the doling out of this punishment are the obedient catholics who will actually follow the dictates of holy mother church as to when and where they can celebrate the mass. it's. it's the primary concern that all of us have, he's not doing as he's saying he's doing, he's punishing the ones who are already in imperfect union with holy mother church or was it as you know, that talk to various catholics over the years. there's obviously a hard one, some pups from are controversial than the other. hope francis is very controversial . ed, as you're looking at this move right now, what pope francis is doing one is it unexpectedly considering he does come from the judge to it when the charge, but to is it what is going to be the long term effect besides just what we're

dealing with today, what are you, what are you seeing, what are you concerned about about the future of the church with this order? well, listen for most of the viewers of this program, their memory will include john paul, the 2nd for decades as a controversial figure. by the way, just not in the church in the same way. he was controversial because he took on communism and took on poverty and all kinds of things. and then cardinal rats and became the pope was a short period of time. the problem was put francis in my estimation, is he continually causes scandal that's a term in the church. it means confusion amongst the faithful. what he did in this case, by the way, shouldn't last just no small p politics. who we empowered to have more say on the life of the church, directly is the bishop in each diocese who now gets to say whether anyone gets to do the latin mass, any priest can say mass. and the problem for many of us is that this pope has appointed some of the most liberal bishops all over the world. people who believe in positions, especially on morality and politics,

political morality that are really troubling on marriage, on abortion, of the thing. so this pub continues to confuse the faithful and what the long term impact will be. when we put in political terms, what branching or did that then put the pope at the time was sign an executive order that said anybody wants to say the latin mass, any priest, and go ahead. what this pope did was change the executive order and say no, it has to be with only if you ask your bishop, the point here is that's an inside game. people are watching our kevin, like what is his about? but catholics are confused and it's like when the pope said at one point, who am i to judge about homosexuality? and then a few years later he said gay marriage cannot be blessed because it's unnatural. these people p one side though, the rainbow flags are going off the vatican steps the next time they're condemning it as a big it. and meanwhile, we have joe biden promoting abortion from the white house. and we have the catholic bishops uncertain about whether they should be able to say that he is morally troubled, which he clearly is so that the legacy of this pope today pro francis is confusion

. but in the end, i'm not sure this is going to matter. as my colleague points out, the people will really hate this are outside of the church. the others are in and frankly praying for better bishops and for the next pope to be more sympathetic. and as you hit them on the head, why i thought was important, we cover the story right here because there is such a strong base. it involves politics not only here in the united states, but around the world that the catholic church and those followers are behind. so it does have an impact and what is going on. i want to go back to you on tim, on this when are you worried about any other traditions or churches being, are advocated and how does this affect that millennials? because obviously i think a lot of people are surprised right now. one of the biggest inundation of the catholic church are the young people who are actually embracing these kinds of traditions. so when you could use it and get them out there, kind of left back out there where they were before they came to the church. there's no small amount of resign tomorrow on the part of the, the generation that gave us the nova sorta me say they thought that they were

speaking on behalf as the box, popularly of all young people for evermore. it turns out young people, after the late sixties and early seventies, have the kinds of changes that they made. young people, the eighty's, ninety's, 2000 want the tradition. and this makes men like pope francis and his cronies, the song colon mafia, the group that gave us po francis in the last conclave of the cardinal it. very bitter. they're not happy about this. you also asked what is the danger? what could be coming down the pike? the total abrogation of the latin mass, which i'm utterly happy to say, did not happen with to did see on a custodian, it just rolled back the positive changes made by benedict, the 16th, some more pontifical made by eagle eye. and so the total abrogation is what we fear . it could be next. they essentially undid the inability of liberal bishops to

disallow the latin mass. and what could be next is total abrogation of the latin mass everywhere. that's what we fear. low young people love it, and that's i think there's like the confusion. you know, i don't want to toss it back to you on this and because you've worked with poses in the past, you know, understand how they go. a lot of concerns said, you know, do you think this dramatic of a decision being now? do you think this might foreshadow the pope soon possible recent illness and surgery? these kind of putting in that last couple stabs, you could to a protocol that, that he wants to get rid of. well, i look, i think anybody who tries to guess when popes are going to go off or either pass away or move on or lose a losing battle. i will say this, like any other administration and i, i'm catholic, i want to be clear, i revere the church and i love the church and for people that aren't catholic, they'll hear this and think that that's why i don't like a church wiser administration. there's people around this pope that have a lot of power and influence, and this is the kind of thing that feels to me like someone wanted done. someone wanted it to happen and to cause this to have this thing to move forward. i fear lest the abrogation of a lot mass completely. but i do think we're seeing,

you know, more liberal bishops in place. and i, when i say liberal, i don't mean only in a political sense, in the american mindset. i mean, on issues of marriage on issues of abortion, on issues of end of life and the impact about, you know, the social justice. you mentioned the jesuits, the jesuit order was leading on some of the worst socialist policies in latin america and other parts of the world. so we should be worried about that. and it feels to me like some of the people around pope francis wanting to do something because i just pointed out it wasn't all the way it was sort of a half measure. but it doesn't bode well in a certain sense. i, i pray for the church. well, tim and thanks for joining me. my biggest concern is this was something that actually united all countries all languages without it being gone, what possibly could happen the future? thanks for joining me. thank you. and that's all the time we have or today show, but i promise that this is a conversation which we will continue to follow me on twitter at study and used to use the hash tag team and d h. and for this show more demo,

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