political theatre a proverbial lunch room, food bite on national display. one thing is for sure these proceedings will reflect deep political divisions. fagley finding the truth looks to be a secondary import. the eastern half of the united states were going to have billions, if not trillions of periodical cicada is interacting with tens of millions of human beings in their back yard. oh my god. obviously some of the cicadas do not have very high tolerance for alcohol because they are already passing out of minutes. 400 i mean that's very satisfying.

and with a confidential informant, anything that you try to pick apart everything that he did for the a year and you just like who i don't know, it's tough on the text message. all of his friends smoked, we all sort even through all of this. so he could have like he wants meeting and but he didn't understand that you said that hasn't happened or

whatever's behavior from the video is very concerning. but before i talk about that, go back the day before me where officer webber went to andrew statics, dorm room. and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew. the threat being, you're in trouble. you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings selling marijuana to 2 different confidential informants. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. wherever said, you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and i'll help make some of this. go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you can't tell

your roommate. you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just need to come and talk to me and this to work. nobody can know about this. the, potentially, the max is 40 years in prison, 40 years. and obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but the good possibility that you're going to get percent present time. if you don't inserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that amount, but most likely with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can't imagine why you know, and i was thinking in his situation sitting with this guy who we thought was probably just going to be just like a slap on the wrist meeting like

a don't let us catch your screw up again. and then all of a sudden this guy's like, yeah, you got to work with us or you're going to face, 40 years will crush your whole life. if we have to like me, i it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of it happening and watched it happen and able to see the body language and the reactions that take place between the individuals . and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death for years. do use and buys for me that were you have to wear away or you have to go buy marijuana from individuals and, you know, depend upon how you do and so forth. you know,

a lot of this could go away, you know, are you, andrew was under intense pressure and he was terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or anybody, anything other than marijuana. and i think the contact intensifies, and then i think they give them deadlines. have to do more just to people to get the you know, the levels though i think whatever it was, a bowie. and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static. can you check any call? the text message works just fine. when you're sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state and you're going to send him after these drug lords. to me that was the worst part about all me from november of

2013 until may of 2014. there were 3. buys that andrew dead under the direction of officer webber. ah ah. after those 3 buys levers still wanted one more. that would have been sometime in early 2014 with ah ah, really, it was very little communication from january to april.

i had to wait on him. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming a confidential informant and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that once an individual is approached and brought into that situation, it will change them forever. in, i don't know what was going on and, and his mind, i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper. find someone else. i don't down trade with information. you want to get all the charges. well, you've got to give me somebody bigger than you. ah,

there was a point around april 15th, that there was no more communication. and that's a real red flag. there were a red flag named nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us as long foresman may red flag name nothing. why wasn't jason webber and contact with andrew static every day? why didn't he know where he was at all times? and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring him in, bring the charges because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation to go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic. certain amount, if you want me to answer anything,

try to get what you normally i want to know who jason wherever work for, because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically play off andrews worst fears. and that was similar to nights point of view topic. what is sanker and are they to blame for the death of andrew san lewis week, cammie static and his mom blamed them go for her son's death. shameka just to be clear, stands for the south, east multi county agency, narcotics task force. essentially. they can be perceived as a local drug and force agency. down in richland county, sam car operates as their own entity, with their own board of directors and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. the one thing that we found really odd is that one of the sergeant's at the

campus police station was on the board of some cob. this or hewlett, at all the one drug task force board member n d s c. as police sergeant steve helga said sergeant, how good son was on the some come board. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest. a 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was and what he was doing, they shouldn't have been investigating. talking to me get started, you know, they're lying and why when he talked, then we had a reporter. he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off. you're no longer any renewal started.

ah, there, shoddy investigated, work was terrible. but again, it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some officers onto their campus, not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some access is due to money from the federal government. they're dealing and small level crimes like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrest that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point, isn't me. my little brother was actually going to in dfcs at the same time as andrew, and lived in the same dorm at the same time. there is no drug problem and we'll

pretend it's fabricated. i would say that they're targeting people that they know are going to have a little bit a pot here, and they're the numbers that they use. mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level . it tells you that they bastardize the war drugs in federal funding for their own benefit. as a purpose of federal funding, as well as the purpose of these standards is to investigate is to dean this male big organizations dangerous organizations for killers. real killed the andrew sad exodus room. mm. ah. in a democratic society that's free speech, right? words are spoken freely in those words that catch attention and result in

something that is beneficial to all have a place in the market in the marketplace of ideas. and those words and ideas that don't benefit society as a whole tend to get discredited or weaned out of the conversation. off through the magic of open dialogue, through the magic of free speak with you as to saying is that they no longer have the competence to respect the 1st amendment. they are not a confident nation. they see the rise of china and they've lost all their confidence and they're going to repeal effectively the 1st amendment i. ready ready watch cancelli class to the person. i knew often the said it was just besides the blue box

truly i don't want the because it's always moving to meet the he's going to repeat usually through which practice and gone. yeah. because really new go from the moment that she really needs to have somebody look on the not a monumental charges on top of it. i me, this is the videotape deposition of steve held us and take him out of the plaintiff in the matter of john camry, said x versus jason webber at all. here again, your family for the testimony are about to give me the truth,

the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i do say your name, steven fell this morning officer webber. morning. we've never met prior to say who the family wanted to bring a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance and death of andrew. me. where does the funding come 1st? there are 2 different grants are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in. so not at the time of the the, the grant application of the statistics coming quarterly reports that go on, i burned j grabbed better website, and those are reported. we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence,

so essentially the mis handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also, we have a ledge fraud and defeat. in other words, they misled andrew in to getting involved in his role as confidential informant, which we believe lead to his death. ah, are there any other specific courses you can point me to even are professors you've been trained on strictly confidential form and so i have no me one point your your department was a part of the program. i sat on the board. yes. so through the time that and the savage, what missing you are still a board member of them. yes. privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing what such as the sea ice

will be aligned across the sheet that would say in dfcs case and what the drug was that they were working on. but that was, it was a number system. we didn't know who the people were. neither the agent nor the so often tell, centrally 2016. the state college science was involved in the task force, correct me when were you informed of control buys being performed on campus for which andrew sat. it was a target look day that he went missing or that night when we 1st made aware of that and he said it was acting as a confidential informant point. right. with them on that moment. prior to that

on march 10, 2014 santander attacks. it said, are you still alive? so remember that bill? did you have any concerns about him? i, i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for a while. i didn't have any concerns. i just asked, you know, there's just a figure to speech. april 17 2014. you gave me a deadline of may 1 to complete another bio truck. why the may 1st deadline? because at that point he was on the freshman that he's gonna be graduating from school and he will be leaving the office in area. and it would be difficult for him to complete what he need to complete traveling back and forth. that was may 1

andrew i listen. i believe so. i know who steve, how the scenario was he involved in the andrew septic handling. so he would have never participated on our deals. was he aware that the consent search was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall that sometimes we, you know, if we go into the jury, different jurisdictions, sometimes we will notify the sheriff of chief police or, you know, if it's on campus steve, typically these individuals don't want to know what we're doing and south and sees a big one for that he never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what is the extent of the relation ship between some and campus place now? not just and i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. bitch could be and i wouldn't have any idea at all if you had known that andrew

said it or any other student at the school science was acting as a confidential informant or were the target of a bi from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student try this or me? [000:00:00;00] i

want to tell me exactly what they were doing with andrew up until that point, if they're, if they had him under so much pressure, letty actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with him. the truth. i'd like the truth. oh, campus police asked me if i had a gun missing and they thought that andrew might had one. and so then i checked my guns and yeah, there was a crystal missing from them, from the garage all ran through my mind. can't see this didn't oh for him to do it

without leaving a note or something. let us think by due us i do not believe that 2nd to the question that we may never have truthfully answered. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber get lined up. and then the biggest thing was he being asked by something more than marijuana was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know and never interacted with to buy whether it was pots or something else. i take it, he wasn't selling pod. i wouldn't think that that would lead to a bullet, but whatever it was,

i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than anybody. and he had expected or that he trapped to not do scared me ended up in the or i have a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the static family. and then the people that support the static family don't really care whether he wish murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 things. what happened in the end, the narrative that got us to the end should never have happened. and so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide and that was not any thing that andrew did without somebody pushing him

towards we adore having those guys around. and i value the fact that they have that much respect to come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them grow low. we're not sure really what to do with the farm. we want to keep it in the name by that's going to be pretty hard to do. now. i was expanding at the time of andrew spouse i was just was renting some more past year and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death i've basically just lost all my ambition. stone. have any wheel anymore.

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