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and i'll be speaking to guess on the world, the politics sport. business, i'm show business. i'll see you then in the me with the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things considered. i'm peter labelle, the democratic dominated select committee investigating the events of january 6 on capitol hill has been constituted, and we'll start proceedings next week. will it be merely political theater? a proverbial lunch room? food bite on national display. one thing is for sure these proceedings will reflect deep political divisions. fagley finding the truth looks to be of secondary importance. the,
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the cross talking january 6. i'm joined by my guess, debbie dewley in atlanta. she is president of the atlanta tea party in milwaukee. we have jennifer de master. she is an attorney and policy analyst. and in london, we cross to ari or amish. he is an attorney, as well as a foreign policy analyst or a cross psych rules. and in fact, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate jennifer. let me go to you 1st here as it is constituted it's, it's basically going to be a democratic show. ok, and i use show purposely here. and as we're going into this here, it seems to me that as i said in my introduction, the truth seems to be quite secondary because it looks like both sides want to claim a cover up being done by the other side here. i mean, is this exercise worth it's while, unless you just want to in, in plain passions, go ahead in milwaukee. it's really not worth while. it's not,
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not this. why not? because it becomes such a part of the show. you know, i think i think some of the republicans, jim jordan included, even kevin mccarthy. once you get to the true, they talked about wanting to truly understand what happened. why it was more security was not added. why the church was turned down by the mayor. you know what, what the democratic leaders know what the time did they know of any other security threats. and so these are, these are questions that if you truly believe that this was horrible, violent, and direction and want answers, you'd want answers to all of these questions and want to get to the bottom of it to make sure that never happens again. so democratic leadership, this, this committee doesn't seem to want to do that. that's why it doesn't really matter . because even if people might be concerned about what happened january 6th, you don't want understand even dinner crap in america. many the i've talked to if they want to just, you know, not really going to care this much about this investigation because it is,
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it is part of that americans are kind of tired of the partisan political things in congress. but if there was something that was bipartisan, that kind of hooked up the ears of your typical ordinary, reasonable american, regardless of party affiliation, because they want to be bipartisan, get truth. this is just simply not that already. can you address that? because there's so many questions that haven't been answered. i mean, the simplest, easiest one to ask is who killed ashley babbitt and it's 6 months on. i mean, why don't we know the person that did this? i mean, the only person that was shot during this entire thing and one side call it in inter insurrection, but it was a trump supporter that was murdered inside the capitol. i mean, these are very basic questions that don't seem to be being addressed. ok, because i want to know what happened and people that broke the law should be punished. go ahead, ari. so i don't think you do and we can say here in air as much conspiracy theory
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as we can. but bottom line is that those who attacked our capital on january 6 are thugs and domestic terrorist. there ladies in georgia and one in colorado, wisconsin, the democratic party, president biden, one, both states fair and square. i'd like those ladies to actually say that that the president of the united states is actually the elected and legitimate president. they won't, they won't, i'd like them to say the president, by the monday, let me finish you. did peter talk about what we want to be fair talking to you where you're going to get finished? it's not my 1st rodeo, so you've got to let people finish. secondly, on january 6, after months of this fraction of a man named president donald trump, who lost the election and he would refuse to step down. we have general milly, a 4 star general man. if you look at a stripes, that's every 6 months served overseas. that man was bored about a crew. that man was worried about a crew by a man. trump,
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who was unwilling to leave, that he sent his thugs and i use that word purposefully and wilfully thugs. to store the u. s. capital, you know what? the democrats. 5 and republicans agreed in may on a non partisan independent commission. the republicans backed out led by mccarthy, kevin mccarthy, minority leader of the house. then again, they sent 5 members. now, by the way, this the up, the 7 numbers selected by speaker nancy pelosi, one is republican list cheney. by all means if you want to question list chinese credentials, then you may not even be a republican here. point 5 guys, jim jordan, jim jordan, you know what? when our cooking laugh yeah. you can laugh because you don't have much of an argument, but you know what? when our cook pony, our component cannot question. william ness is partisanship. you don't appoint an arsonist to investigate the so so no, that's that. so you guys lot. okay, so nancy pelosi isn't partisan. your whole argument collapse or ok exact. right?
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i want to jot. i want to get everybody. hey, i want to get everybody in the program when every be fair and, and debbie hasn't said one word yet debbie, you have the floor. go ahead. well, to begin with, i will answer your question. tell me what praise i were before i admit that dementia. joe, in here, his caretakers won the presidency. i'm in georgia. i know that the election fraud is being uncovered as we speak. that weather is below nice. that's a lot. that's a lot going on regarding debbie debbie didn't interrupt you ari. debbie didn't interrupt. you going to stop there because i double standard of democrat. why asked year there were 25 people killed and she and b l a. m drive? yes, i federal courthouse in portland,
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oregon was sent on bar in. try can over during the hearings on not confirming brett cabin, all democrats invited capital buildings. what about january? yeah, instead of about january 6, one your thoughts. okay. all right, i'm gonna jump in here, but are you didn't talk about that already. you didn't talk about january 6 either . okay, so let me go to jennifer and i go to michigan. let me go to the other part of the commission, but it's race baiting. hang on to work. okay. race baiting. okay. we're talking about january 6, jack jennifer here. why doesn't nancy pelosi want to be asked hard questions because it was she was in charge of the security of the capital and. and the sergeant and arms requested 5 times for more assistance, and he got crickets and then he got fired the next day. go ahead, jennifer. whenever you look into some want the answer to this question because it
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might show some democratic ordination might at least show some kind of knowledge. i mean, that's the only reason why somebody that claims to want to get to the bottom. what is actually research. i understand why, why democratic why, why did the left wing is very angry. i understand why they are perpetuating this guilty until proven innocent thing, because it gives that we what done the crap did during the molar investigation during the molar which all women job with guilty programs. and it was turned out to all be a lie about this. russia collusion hope, and because of that, you see why the democrats take your box, you're guilty until proven in it said, i want you to demand it because the fact that they don't have the fact they don't have the investigative material, they don't have the answers. and that's exactly why they're so angry and they want to shut everybody down and interrupt, you know, they don't have a case in america in the legal system. ok, there's something called bias and motivation here. and if a witness have bias, lyrical motivation or something else, they are what their, their testimony is not credible. that's what's happening here is that they want to
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how to be biased. the committee, i'll tell you one thing about the credential. jeannie, your credentials are that she is not acting in favor or her constituents. they're showing that their own poll numbers and why don't need i don't care about how many years. in fact, that's what making the majority of the american war sketchy about people that have been involved in politics for so many years. well, you've heard of the lot that don't want to get church and that there are calling people guilty until proven innocent. that is not the american way and we'll have everything right. you know, what are you can start asking questions about about who want and demanding the people acknowledge they're biting one when you can go back for years and make sure the democrats show that from back was really 12016 hillary back. and i tried to leave it for hillary. can jennifer, you know what? you're a lawyer, you got a lawyer. i know about hillary clinton and please talking about things. you have no idea what you're talking to. you don't how feed it. ok, i'm conceding some conceited guy. can see that the ari why hasn't got his buck
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kicked ok, we're talking about january sick, so i have think he's going to hang on debbie. hang on, please. okay, ari because i want to give everyone equal time here ari. there have been reports that the f b, i might have had embedded snitches, and undercover personnel here is that something you would like to learn more about? because we did have a we had, we had a governor and i let me finish it out. let me finish my question. all right, i have for you have to let me ask you in there. where would you like to have put it out? i have an offer. yeah. but if you do my question, if you don't. absolutely. now you're trying to tell your audience that you know, i knew that the crew, good be governor of michigan. there was an allegation that what's her name, what's her name? whitmeyer? janet. what the all good. okay. go ahead. well,
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you don't have to be condescending. i'm trying to be civil, right. what you're talking about. do i not part of the conversation fitting and talking about what you don't have to insult everyone, your disagreement, your job when you have time american democracy. i am not, i want to find out what happened because i don't want to happen. we all want to know what happened. what can we do? what's the f b? i always has informants to even alludes to the idea that the f b. i instigated this one, people with confederate flags. those are trader flags, trader flags, trader flags. i see that 3 times and capital to say that the f b, i instigated that one is actually still. so does that mean carrying a flag is a crime? is that with? no, it's not a crime. you know, it can, you can go bern, flags, but carry it to carry a confederate flag. makes it look like an idiot. i will, i wish you could focus all of your venom on the topic by hand. i will research by
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the way, i scout ok. i know you're sitting doing this. i mean, you really want to proceed without knowing everyone. i have plenty of arguments and so i guess here night we're going to go to a short page quite after the break. i'll continue our discussion on january 6 name with our ah, me the board with
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one of the show stoppers is the cost of the loans in the operation. the ah, welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. remind you we're discussing january 6th in before we continue, our e, our 3rd guest of the program has left. he had a very big problem with my questions and it personally insulting me so i found no other reason to have him continue on the program. ari has the right to his opinion and he'll continue to express them. and i respect that. i wish he would have respected other people's opinion. debbie, let me go back to you and let's get back to the facts here because of part of the program was this very turn in the wrong direction. i want to talk about january 6th
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or, you know, one of the problems that i have here is the why someone like representative jordan and banks cannot be part of these proceedings. i mean, it seems to me that they want to make sure all the lives cheney represents the opposition here. i mean, this is quite farcical and we know would lose if he has a right to her opinions. that's fine, but she's not representative of her caucus go ahead, demi. yeah, i actually, i have a problem with that. i think if i like republicans should walk away from the committee and exposed to them for sham then it is. i was not in the capital in january 6 because i actually called cobit so i had to stay at home, but i had family, very good friends that were there. and a lot of the reports that i am hearing or that the capital, the police and folks were waiting people to go in and talk to and my
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family picked up the phone, call them on their cell phone. and i said, you guys, okay. and they did not even know what was going on by way outside the capital. and they told me later that they did not go inside the capital. even though capital replace were waiving their me because i felt like it was a trial to go. since they found out there were trouble like how the over and that is a problem i you know, and to me, you know, who shot miss barrett that that was shot there. 9. so whether been released everywhere, what are our intelligence agency and they are covering up there is a double standard in the way that they're trading. what happened that the capital in, in the way that they traded. they of the extreme once. 2 the b l a m
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and then t for protest, the f b is clearly politically motivated and i had to actually was interview with, contacted you. and he did not even go in the capital and he was able to crazy, did not. but he said, i, you know, people have a major issue with the why the investigation and why you're trading the people own january 6. then the way you treated the b l a and you know and 24 protest. there's a double standard there for. yeah, i told him, well we try to order what to investigate and how to proceed from a top. so in our gym, i hate this because i'm a patriotic freedom loving american status. little problem. but debbie, you bring up a really good point. let me go to jennifer here. i mean, it seems to me, this is a gambit to dis, discredit,
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tens of millions of people that voted for donald trump. i mean, it seems to me a vast assault on people's constitutional rights here. and, and also the 2022 is right around the corner. and the specter of trump running again, i think this is what this is about. they want to nip it in the bud right now and to intimidate people. i mean that couple in it last, alaska, you know, they didn't happen to be polite. was these laptop, but they would need, they knocked down the door they, they handcuffed him. i mean, the, or what kind of due process is that, i mean, i find that quite chilling and people that committed loitering. i mean, is you, should you be in prison for 6 months without proper legal advice? i mean, this seems an assault on so many different ways and it, you know, a ring in regard to our guests. the left is here. i am very adamant. i want to know what happened and let the chips fall, but we happen. know what happened honestly and not to have this into this political
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theater. go ahead, jennifer. and that, that's exactly the issue that i think the republicans in congress, which trying to get to jim bang, jim jordan being appointed by kevin mccarthy to the committee. because kevin mccarthy knows that the majority of republicans, majority of conservative in america do not change or on people only on the center or they want. they want her out of office next turns. so, you know, knowing that he brings in people who want to get to the truth. jordan, a very good investigation on the know the legal system. well, you know, constitutional norm, well, yes, obviously he's conservative, but at least he has truck constituents. and many people, even people that were present when shrunk, spoke on january the people that had no part in any violence of the capital. and so that would bring some legitimacy to that, the democrats want none of that, but i have a real problem with a lot of and there are a couple of points here. so we were talking about
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a court of law investigation trying to find the truth. i mean, the legal system and in america the legal mentoring other than in your gym when you get evidence and so need somebody who i wasn't there january, i wasn't, you know, present. i of course, i know some people that were most that didn't go inside or only they didn't go inside, but a lot of it i got from, from social media, from videos. i have seen more videos posted on social media, not to media course. those are blocked down more videos and assuming you mean if we will, that those videos are legitimate that they haven't been edited on days or videos from at least 7 to 9 different people. different perspective showing the same thing . you're looking at sort of trunk. we're trying to trying to care people a way that we're breaking down windows, trying to stop people from going in your video that devastated or capital please fighting people and so different direction. by the way,
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the 1st thing you should be doing is investigating the capital who is not already noticed. heroes asking why they invited school and where they are part of this, your video, the capital leading people into the grown, into the how chamber and some of the major room. so i've seen multiple, i think, 4 videos, 3 from different people, that 4 videos, but pulling up while trumpet speaking on my way. when near the capital national mall with people getting out and she and to trump here. why is it so hard to submit a conspiracy there? these are actual videos where i sitting in the law. a judge will be saying, this is what i see with my eyes. now again, these are video perspectives, but this would be considered some kind of evidentiary testimony. giddy was legitimate that we watched him not just being the war trader. you're asking the question, you know, was infiltrated, you're in, people be movement that were treated by people that have absolutely turned violence
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. and so we should get to the bottom of this. why does it these narrative? why are people so quick to just this narrative and label others? because they're scared because one that's for sure where to actually come out. it's going to show that there was some democratic or knowledge and that's, and that's something that we need to get. the bottom of this has now been painted directions. what part, what part to democratic leadership play in this? and why is why and why still be perpetuated? because it still being perpetuated that there were actually there were actually multiple gas, the capitol police, off the jurors because of the interaction. because that's not sure that's actually been bombed by medical report examinations, legal documents for filing. the only person that was intentionally killed that was murdered, that gave was trumpet order and military veteran ashley babbitt. and that we have to get to the bottom. if you're looking at people on social media in journalists
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that are having to get to the bottom of it doesn't mean to media officials will not do their job. well, i don't debbie and jennifer brings up probably the most important point of this whole discussion is that you were being attacked because we ask questions. so what's wrong with asking questions? i tell you resolve problems. ok. and i think it's really quite interesting before jim jordan was pulled off. he was on fox news the night before or even on the same day. and he telegraphed what he would like to ask questions of the select committee . and then hours later he has cut because it looks like nobody wants to answer the questions that he wants to ask and we're asking on this program. go ahead, debbie. i totally agree. i mean, what's wrong with their asking questions? and i will just imagine next year when the republicans take control when they have seen it here i have health hearing from 2 different things. and i actually did try
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to democrat leadership, the people that can be placed on their committees. that's wrong. the democrats would be screaming at the top of their wall. and this is a question that i want to know. if you recall, by talks about weapons insurrection, it was called the insurrection from the beginning insurrection. if you want to overthrow the government, you're going to have weapons and farms with you. there have been non recovered. this thing was a sad up from the began and as i said, folks on no did not go in there camp a little because they, they failed. it was a stand for the police to be motioning for them to come in air. and i think the democrats do not, and i really think our intelligence agencies, the f b. i do not want a close look into what really went on because they are afraid what will be
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discovered. and i think that something that's telling me, and i think it's a double standard, as i said, it's a big double standard out there. what happens in, in 09122009. i was one of the ones to help organize a massive march. and they said there were a were 1000000 of us player there were we did not try to take anything we were peaceful. we picked up our garbage and we left. i think this is just the democrats in therapy. i don't want to close the but look at what really happened because my, some of their and for much may be some democrat act and this will be discovered as being infiltrators in engine them on, but on. definitely a great place needs to be looked at. why they were motioning people to come in the capital. yeah, jennifer,
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i'll give you the last 40 seconds here. go ahead. well, you know, back to one of the points you were making earlier about the with her not being, you know, the label if you're here is all they want it, but i think will kind of over it will at this point you can't just somebody names every time on the playground, if you see your argument is getting the bond to the movie, when i take your ball and go home, ok, the dot conspiracy theories any more, the actual court filings and court documents, and one of the court filings in court documents in the whittemore, the governor whitmore case of michigan is showing that these people feel like they were set up like they were given goals by the f b i. informant for given goal suited to these people. and well, i have, i have been here and we were brought out of time here, but i never thought i would suggest go to buzz feed to have a fascinating story on that. ok, what happened there? all right, i want to thank my my guess in atlanta and in milwaukee. want to think our viewers for watching us here at our tc next time. and remember,
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