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the hello and welcome to cross stock where all things considered. i'm peter lavelle. the democratic dominated select committee investigating the events of january 6 on capital hill has been constituted. it will start proceedings next week. will it be merely political theatre? a proverbial lunchroom food fight on national display? one thing is for sure these proceedings will reflect deep political divisions. sadly, finding the truth looks to be of secondary importance. the, the cross talking january 6, i'm joined by my guess, debbie dewley in atlanta. she is president of the atlanta tea party in milwaukee. we have jennifer de master. she is an attorney and policy analyst. and in london we cross who are you are amish. he is an attorney, as well as a foreign policy analyst or a cross psych rules and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i

always appreciate jennifer. let me go to you 1st here as it is constituted. it's, it's, it's basically going to be a democratic show. ok, and i use show purposely here and it's, we're going into this here. it seems to me that as i said in my introduction, the truth seems to be quite secondary because it looks like both sides want to claim a cover up being done by the other side here. i mean, is this exercise worth? it's while, unless you just want to in, in flame passions, go ahead in milwaukee. it's really not worth while. it's not, not at this. why not because it becomes such a part of the show. you know, i think i think some of the republicans, jim jordan included, even kevin mccarthy. once you get to the true, they talked about wanting to truly understand what happened. why it was more security was not added. why the charity was turned down by the mayor. you know what, what the democratic leaders know at the time if they know of any other security

threats. and so these are, these are questions that if you truly believe that this was horrible, violent, and direction and want answers, you'd want answers to all of these questions and want to get to the bottom of it to make sure this never happens again. so democratic leadership, this, this committee doesn't seem to want to do that. that's why it doesn't really matter . because even if people might be concerned about what happened january 6th, you don't want understand even dinner crap in america. many the i've talked to if they want to just, you know, not really going to care this much about this investigation because it is, it is so part of that americans are kind of tired of the partisan political things in congress. but if there was something that was bipartisan, that kind of hooked up the ears of your typical ordinary, reasonable american, regardless of party affiliation, because they want to be bipartisan, get truth. this is just simply not that already. can you address that? because there's so many questions that haven't been answered. i mean, the simplest,

easiest one to ask is who killed ashley babbitt and it's 6 months on. i mean, why don't we know the person that did this? i mean, the only person that was shot during this entire thing and one side call it in inter insurrection, but it was a trump supporter that was murdered inside the capitol. i mean, these are very basic questions that don't seem to be being addressed. ok, cuz i want to know what happened and people that broke the law should be punished. go ahead, ari. so i don't think you do and we can sit here and air as much conspiracy theory as we can. but bottom line is that those who attacked our capital on january 6 are thugs and domestic terrorist. there ladies in georgia and one in colorado, wisconsin, the democratic party president, a biden, one, both states fair and square. i'd like those ladies to actually say that that the president of the united states is actually the elected and legitimate president they want. and they won't. i'd like them to say the president,

by the one day like are let me finish. you didn't talk about what we want to be fair talking about where you're going to get finished my 1st rodeo, so you've got to let people finish. secondly, on january 6, after months of this fraction of a man named president donald trump, who lost the election and he would refuse to step down. we have general milly, a 4 star general man. if you look at a stripes, that's every 6 months served overseas. that man was worried about a crew. that man was worried about a crew by a man, trump, who was unwilling to leave. then he sent his thugs and i use that word purposefully and wilfully thugs. to store the u. s. capital, you know what? the democrats and republicans agreed in may on a non partisan independent commission. the republicans backed out led by mccarthy, kevin mccarthy, minority leader of the house. then again, they sent 5 members. now, by the way, this, the of the 7 numbers selected by speaker nancy pelosi,

one is republican list cheney. by all means, if you want to question list chinese credentials, then you may not even be a republican here. point 5 guys, jim jordan, jim jordan, you know what, when our cooking laugh. yeah. you can laugh because you don't have much of an argument, but you know what? when our cook pony al capone's cannot question william, that's his partisanship. you don't appoint an arsonist to investigate the fun so. so no, that's that. so you guys lot yet. ok. so nancy pelosi isn't partisan. i your whole argument collapse are ok, that's right. i want to jot. i want to get everybody. hey, i want to get everybody in the program when every be fair and debbie hasn't said one word yet debbie, you have the floor. go ahead. well, to begin with, i will answer his question. tell me what the trees were before i admit that to meet you, joe, and hear his caretaker's won the presidency. i'm in georgia. i know that election

fraud is being uncovered as we speak. that weather is below nice. that's a lot. that's a lot. if you go on air regarding laurie, debbie, debbie didn't mean interrupt you ari debbie did have to go up there because i live double standards of democrat. why a year? there were 25 people killed and she and b l a. m drive? yes. a federal courthouse in portland, oregon was set on bar in. try can over during the hearings on not confirming brett cameron, all democrats invited capital building. what about january? yeah, instead of about january 6, one your thoughts? okay. all right, i'm gonna jump in here, but are you didn't talk about that already. you didn't talk about january 6 either

. okay, so let me go to jennifer and i told him i go to michigan, let me go to the other part of the commission, but it's race baiting. hang on to work. okay. race speeding. okay. we're talking about january 6, jack jennifer here. why doesn't nancy pelosi want to be asked hard questions because it was she was in charge of the security of the capital and, and the sergeant and arms requested 5 times for more assistance. and he got crickets and then he got fired the next day. go ahead, jennifer. whenever you look into the answer to this question, because it might show some democratic ordination might at least show some kind of knowledge. i mean, that's the only reason why somebody that claims to want to get to the bottom would actually research this. i understand why, why democratic why, why the left wing is very angry. i understand why they are perpetuating this guilty until proven innocent thing because of exactly what democrats did during the molar investigation during the molar which all women john guilty programs. and it was

turned out to all be a lie about this russia collusion hope. and because of that, you see why the democrats take your box, you're guilty until proven in it said, i want you to demand it because the fact that they don't have the fact they don't have the investigative material, they don't have the answers. and that's exactly why they're so angry and they want to shut everybody down and interrupt anybody have. no, they don't have a case in america in the legal system. ok, there's something called bias and motivation here. and if a witness have by lyrical motivation or something else, they are what their, their testimony is not credible. that's what's happening here is that they want to how to be biased. the committee, i'll tell you one thing about the credentials for latrina, your credentials are that she is not acting in favor or her constituents. they're showing that their own poll numbers and why don't need. i don't care about how many years. in fact, that's what's making the majority of the american war sketchy about people that have been involved in politics for so many years. well, you've heard of the lot that don't want to get church and that there are calling people guilty until proven innocent. that is not the american way and we'll have

everything right. you know, what are you can start asking questions about about who want and demanding that people acknowledge the biting one. when you can go back for years and make sure the democrats show that from back was really 12016 hillary back. and i had to be there for hillary media to jennifer. you know what? you're a lawyer. you got a lawyer. i know about hillary clinton and please talking about things. you have no idea what you're talking to, you don't how or feed it. ok, i'm conceiving from conceited drunk, i can see that the ari why hasn't got his buck kicked. ok. we're talking about january 6. i have think he's going to hang on debbie. hang on please. okay, ari because i want to give everyone equal time here ari. there have been reports that the f b, i might have embedded snitches and undercover personnel here. is that something you would like to learn more about?

because we did have a, we had, we had a governor and i let me finish it out. let me finish my question already. i have for the ends, you have to let me ask you in there. where would you like to have plotted out man? i have an offer. yeah. but if you came to my question, if you don't, absolutely. now you're trying to tell your audience that you know, i knew that the crew, good be governor of michigan. there was an allegation that was what's her name? what's her name? whitmeyer? janet. what the good. okay. go ahead. well you don't have to be condescending. i'm trying to be civil because you're right. what you're talking about though, i not part of the conversation fitting and talking about what you don't have to insult everyone, your disagreement, your job, what your mac and democracy. i am not. i want to find out what happened because i don't want to happen. we all want to know what happened. what can we do? what's the f b?

i always has informants to even alludes to the idea that the f b, i instigated this one, people with confederate flags. those are trader flags, trader flags, trader flags. i see that 3 times and capital to say that the f b, i instigated that one is actually still. so does that mean carrying a flag is a crime? is that with no crime? you know, you can go bern flags, but carry it to carry a confederate flag makes you look like an idiot. i will. i wish you could focus all of your venom on the topic by hand. i wish research, by the way, i mean we're either a scout. ok. i know you're sitting alone doing that already. i mean, you really want to proceed without knowing everyone. i have plenty of arguments and so i guess here night we're going to go to a short page quite after the break. i'll continue our discussion on january 6 name with our

ah, well, the pen that makes no certainly no borders and the keys has emerged. we don't have authority, we go to the back seat, the whole world needs to take action and be ready. people who judge no crisis, we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenges for the response has been massive. so me, good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we need together

in join is raising prices up. they're the ones who are dictating prices. so we're creating a monster here. we created a brick and monster. we've got china, economy zooming. they can raise prices at will. and no matter how high china raise prices for americans to buy their good biden's going to print more money to send to china. this is the worst is dopey in chinese fingered trap that ever been invented . the welcome back to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. remind you we're discussing january 6th in before we continue, our e, our 3rd guest of the program has left. he had

a very big problem with my questions and ended it personally insulting me. so i found no other reason to have him continue on. the program already has the right to his opinion and he'll continue to express them. and i respect that. i wish he would have respected other people's opinion. debbie, let me go back to you and let's get back to the facts here because the 1st part of the program was this very turn in the wrong direction. i want to talk about january 6th. one of the problems that i have here is the why someone like representative jordan and banks cannot be part of these proceedings. i mean, it seems to me that they want to make sure all the lives cheney represents the opposition here. i mean, this is quite farcical and we know it would lose. she has a right to her opinions. that's fine, but she's not representative of her caucus go ahead, demi. yeah, i actually, i had a problem with that. i think if i like republicans should walk away from the committee and expose them for sham then it is. i was not in the

capital in january 6 because i actually cult code. so i had to stay at home, but i had family, very good friends that were they are. and a lot of the reports that i am hearing or that the capital, the police and folks were waiting people to go in the park. so i'll talk to and my family picked up the phone, call them on their cell phone. and i said, are you guys okay? and they did not even know what was going on by way outside the capital. and they told me later that they did not go inside the capital though. even though capital replace were waving their me because i felt like it was a try to go i found out they were trouble by how the over and lay out that it's a problem. i, you know, and to me, you know, have shot miss barrett that had a car that was shot there. 9 where they've been released everywhere. what are

our intelligence agency and they are covering up there is a double standard in the way that they're trading. what happened that the capital in, in the way that they traded the of the string once the b, l, a m, and then t for protest. the f b is clearly politically motivated. and i have been actually was interview with be contacted him and he did not even go in the capital and he was able to crazy, did not. but he said, i, you know, people have a major issue with the why the investigation and why you're trading the people own january 6 and the way you treated the b l a and you know, and to, for protest, there's a double standard there for. yeah, i told him,

well we take orders. what to investigate and how to proceed. so in our gym, i hate this because i'm a patriotic, great on loving american status will problem. but debbie, you bring up a really good point when you go to jennifer here. i mean, it seems to me, this is a gambit to this, this credit tens of millions of people that vote for donald trump. i mean, it seems to me a vast assault on people's constitutional rights here and, and also the 2022 is right around the corner and the specter of trump running again, i think this is what this is about. they want to nip it in the bud right now and to intimidate people. i mean that couple in it last, alaska, the, you know, they didn't have the hands b palos these laptop, but they would need, they knocked down the door they, they handcuffed him. i mean, the, or what kind of due process is that, i mean, i find that quite chilling and people that committed loitering. i mean, as you,

should you be in prison for 6 months without proper legal advice. i mean, this seems an assault on so many different ways and it, you know, a ring in regard to our guests that love to hear. i am very adamant. i want to know what happened and let the chips fall. but we have to know what happened. honestly and not to have this into this political theater. go ahead, jennifer. and that, that's exactly the issue that i think the republicans in congress, which trying to get to jim bang, jim jordan being appointed by kevin mccarthy to the committee. because kevin mccarthy knows that the majority of republicans, majority of conservative in america do not change or on people only on a center or they want. they want her out of office next turns. so, you know, knowing that he brings people who want to get to the truth. jordan is very good at investigation. and you know, the legal system, well, you know, constitutional norm, well, yes, obviously he's conservative,

but at least he has truck constituents. and many people, even people that were present when shrunk, spoke on january people that had no part in any violence of the capital. and so that would bring some legitimacy to that, the democrats want none of that, but i have a real problem with a lot of this. and there are a couple of points here. so we were talking about a court of law investigation trying to find the truth. i mean, the legal system in america, the legal country and other than in your gym when you get evidence. and so me, if somebody who i wasn't there january, i wasn't, you know, present. i of course, i know some people that were most that didn't go inside only didn't go inside, but a lot of it i got from, from social media, from videos. i have seen more videos posted on social media, not media course. those are blocked down more videos and assuming you mean if we will, that those videos are legitimate that they haven't been edited on days or videos

from at least 7 to 9 different people. different perspective showing the same thing . you're looking at some trunk. what are trying to trying to care people a way that we're breaking down windows, trying to stop people from going in. you do see videos that are capital please fighting people and so different direction. by the way, the 1st thing you should be doing is investigating the capital who is not already noticed. heroes asking why they invited school and where they are part of this, your video, the capital leading people into the grown, into the how chamber and some of the major room. so i've seen multiple, i think, 4 videos, 3 from different people, that 4 videos. but going up while trumpet speaking on my way, when near the capital national mall with people getting out and she and to trump here, why is it so hard to get a conspiracy there? these are actual videos where i sitting in the law a judge will be saying,

is it what i see with my eyes? now again, these are the video perspective, but this would be considered some kind of evidentiary testimony would legitimate that we could question not just being the war trader, your plugger this but ask, you know, question you know, was infiltrated, you're in, people be movement that were treated by people that have absolutely turned by and so we should get to the bottom of this. why did they are getting married or why are people so quick to just this narrative. 3 and label others, because because they're scared because one that's for sure where to actually come out. it's going to show that there was some democratic or knowledge and that's, and that's something that we need to get. the bottom of this was now been painted directions. what part, what part to democratic leadership play in next? and why is why and why still be perpetuated? because it still being perpetuated that there were actually there were actually multiple gas, the capitol police,

off the jersey because of the interaction because that's not shoes. that's actually been bombed by medical report examinations, legal documents for filing. the only person that was intentionally killed that was murdered, that gave was trumpet order and military veteran ashley babbitt and that we have to get to the bottom. if you're looking at people on social media, journalists that are having to get to the bottom of it doesn't mean media officials will not do their job. well, i don't debbie and jennifer brings up probably the most important point of this whole discussion is that you were being attacked because we ask questions. so what's wrong with asking questions? i tell you resolve problems. ok. and i think it's really quite interesting before jim jordan was pulled off. he was on fox news the night before or even on the same day. and he telegraphed what he would like to ask questions of the select committee . and then hours later he is cut because it looks like nobody wants to answer the

questions that he wants to ask and we're asking on this program. go ahead, debbie. i totally agree. i mean, what's wrong with asking questions? and i will just imagine next year when the republicans take control when they have seen it here i have health hearing from 2 different things and i actually did try to democrat leadership, the people that can be placed on their committees. that's wrong. the democrats would be screaming at the top of their wall. and this is a question that i want to know. if you recall, by talks about weapons insurrection, it was called the insurrection from the beginning insurrection. if you want to overthrow the government, you're going to have weapons and farms with you. there have been non recovered. this thing was a sad up from the began and as i said, folks on no did not go in their camp a little because they, they failed. it was

a stand up for the police to be motioning for them to come in. and i think the democrats do not, and i really think our intelligence agencies, the f b, i do not want a closer look into what really went on because they are afraid what will be discovered. and i think that something that's telling me, and i think it's a double standard, as i said, it's a big double standard out there. what happens in, in 09122009. i was one of the ones to help organize a massive march. and they said there were a were 1000000 of us player there were we did not try to take anything we were peaceful. we picked up our garbage and we left an update. this is just the democrats in the api. i don't want to close the but look at what really happened

because my, some of their and for much may be some democrat act and this will be discovered as being infiltrators engine them on, but on. definitely a great place needs to be looked at why they were motioning people to come in the capital. yeah, jennifer, i'll give you the last 40 seconds here. go ahead. well, you know, back to one of the points you were making earlier about the not being, you know, the label. if you're there is all they want it, but i think we'll kind of over it at this point. you can't just somebody names every time on the playground. if you see your argument is getting the bond to the movie. when i take your ball and go home, okay, these are conspiracy theories anymore. these are actual court filings and court documents. and one of the court filings in court documents in the whittemore, the governor whitmore case of michigan is showing that these people feel like they were set up like they were given goals by the f, b. i. informant,

for given goals to, to, to these people. and well, i have to, i have been here and we were brought out of time here, but i never thought i would suggest go to buzz feed to have a fascinating story on that. ok, what happened there? all right, i want to thank my my guess in atlanta and in milwaukee. want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. and remember, cross ah ah, ah, the eastern half of the united states, we're going to have billions, if not trillions of periodical cicada is interacting with tens of millions of human beings in their backyard. oh, my god. obviously some of the cicadas do not have very high

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