i think mm, we dare to ask in algorithms and neural networks have been following us everywhere. we look online because our relationships are what matters most of us and that's how we find meaning and how we make sense in our place in silicon valley see don't mention in their sleep presentations. however, the ghost workers who train the software human they're involved in every step of the process when you're using anything online. but we're sold as this miracle of automate behind your screen. it's a workforce that seems algorithm is for next to nothing on a very good day to do $5.00. now a really bad day. i could do these workers are miserable by design. it's about labor costs, but it's also about creating layers of western responsibility between those who

solicit the kind of work and need it. and those who do it the, the, the, the, the boom bought the one business show you can afford them at some branch of boar in washington coming up. the crystal currency sector has begun to rebound after muslim bad news straight ahead. we take a look at the rally and what's driving it. then we take you a property atlantic, where the united kingdom is seeing a surgeon alerts from the ne, just over tracking app in the wake up lifting restriction. we'll take

a look at the potential economic fall out from a fresh web 14th known as the ping demik and high level officials from the world to largest academy have held their latest round of talk. this time in china later on trying to break your give you the details of the quote tense negotiations and what role the front of cybersecurity is playing on the political stage. in fact, you're today look dive right in and we leave the program with a big 24 hours for the world's most popular crypto currency. after what seemed like a month long spiral for bitcoin, that appeared to be one set of bad news after another. a possibly huge, and now it's been over the weekend said the coin price surging by more than 12 percent. and anonymous insider at amazon appears to have leak word that the e commerce giant will soon begin excepting bitcoin. and may even have plans to develop its own token. the news was all it took to catapult the price over $40000.00 by monday afternoon,

which is the highest has been in 6 weeks. so why has a rumor moved by one of the world's biggest e commerce giants had such an effect on the crypto currency that had struggled since hitting all time highs over $60000.00? well, joining disgust by co host, ben swan and chris the i thank you both for being here on this important topic of ben. i want to start with this. can you explain what this amazon insider said? can we take that report actually seriously? well, i think we can take it seriously only because, and i let me say about this as well. i've been hearing about amazon potentially taking big coin now for over 2 years. this is something that's actually cause of the big coin in the crypto market to jump several times in the past. but there were rumors that amazon was going to do this. now it started out because a reporter with city a. m and seattle apparently found some job listings on amazon website. those job listings were looking for block chain developers that's pretty suspicious. and then

they talk to an insider again, an anonymous source who supposedly told them reportedly said that amazon is looking at very soon beginning to accept big coin as well as potentially 8 other crypto currencies including the theory and possibly cordano including bitcoin cache. so there are several, several of them, and then over time amazon does plan to eventually, as you said, release its own token, its own coin. so the likelihood of this happening, i think, is extremely high. the question is that i have is why hasn't happened yet? as i said, for years i've been hearing at least 2 years that amazon would be doing this. i'm surprised. they haven't done christie. i mean, to bend point here. why did this news have such a big impact on big points price? i mean, after all, it actually doesn't deal with any of the issues that seem to have been driving bitcoin price down over the last 6 weeks and beyond. well, it has a huge impact because it basically just turn the tide of sentiment, because over the last 6 weeks, all we had was

a slew of bad news firms. we had the nonsense with isla mustang, the big ones back for the environment. and then we had china cracking down and forth all of the minors to relocate. and we kind of address all of these issues that most of this was kind of a nonsense news and just a temporary drop because the miners are forced to cash out a little bit in order to get money in order to relocate and to set up their entire operations again. so most of it was kind of a news, but the quaint has been in a slump because there have been absolutely no positive developments. recently. the only thing that we were hearing was that hey, more regulation is coming and more taxes are coming potentially. so because of that, it's kind of been in a slump. so this news today it came on expectedly. and because we had this continuous slew of bad news, a lot of trade for actually position very barely. there were a lot of shorts out in the market and that's what led to this john norman pop today . all the shorts were basically forced to cover and they were forced to buy it incrementally higher prices. and that's what was responsible for this huge gap up, basically, him tremendous short squeeze of the market and

a tremendous shift in the tide of the market momentum. so essentially, $950000000.00 worth of shorts got blown out and pop today on monday, which is the largest volume since may 19th and bed. i want to go back to what you mentioned there. we mentioned in the intro, you mentioned it in your 1st point here is part of the report indicate the amazon is considering developing its own crypto currency. how likely is that to happen and why? so you know, i don't really know how likely it is to happen. i would have said a couple years ago. it is more likely than it is today. i believe that someone like jeff will look at at crypto currency and say, hey, rather than just accepting 8 other crypt, correct things or 10 or 12 or 50, why not just make our own crypto currency? and so i can further rule the world right with expect for someone like your basis to think that way. it makes me think of another tech type mark zuckerberg, right. he tried this also remember the libra association and we saw the libra token,

but what was the problem with that? the problem was that banking regulators got involved and what i think martin 2nd burg found out, and i think what jeff diesel's will find out is this is a much more difficult game than they think that it is. and part of the reason why is because when you do this, you've got the fcc bringing down your neck all of a sudden and trying to determine whether or not you created a legitimate token, whether it's a utility, whether are nodded to actual security. there are a lot of questions that's around group to currencies, and if you're already one of the richest people in the world, it stands to put some of the other things you're doing at risk. if the fcc starts to create pressure, i think that's why facebook stopped doing it. i don't not sure that amazon will start doing well to that point where when you look at something like bitcoin completely decentralized crypto currency, not really sure who invented it for sure. so that makes it completely different. they don't have to face the regulatory scrutiny, at least in the launch where amazon, one of the world's largest companies, certainly will right away. also, i think facebook for sure,

they don't really sell anything and make much more sense for amazon to do that than facebook. so, christie, to that point? why did we see mark zuckerberg pretty much abandoned his plans for a supposedly game changing libra association. do you see amazon is more likely to succeed and is up in the space? i think if you actually tried, i think amazon would have a lot more success because tier point facebook and what that their social media companies. so to add a payment component to it, it's basically reinventing venmo on facebook doesn't make a lot of sense. but for amazon to do that, they have one of the biggest marketplaces ever. and this would essentially be copying ali baba because ali baba has their alley bucks, and that's been a tremendous success, because you can use allie bucks to directly pay for items on their marketplace and receive discounts for using the payment of that platform. so for amazon to do this, i think it's very smart. a do i like it? not really, because then it kind of sucks us into the shy. norma's amazon centipede,

where you're shopping with amazon managing our life with amazon. alexa, eating with amazon at whole foods, basically doing everything amazon and now banking and payment with amazon. so it gets like into this very dangerous kind of monopoly thing and to burn flint, i think they're going to base a lot of regulatory scrutiny here. just like facebook, but i think the difference is how they define the scope of this coin. because facebook was a little over ambitious with their libra project. they said they were going to create the currency of the world. and it was very ambitious and they had absolutely no plan out how to do it, but regular here, this and they get all freaked out being like you can't do this we, we have control of currency, not you, not tech companies. but if amazon wanted to do a model similarly to how alibaba deal with ali bucks, i think they'll have an easier time because essentially to say, hey, we're issuing a coin, uses coin to buy things on amazon marketplace. it's essentially like a gift card, not really any currency that's going to disrupt politics or anything like that. so if they frame it that way, i think they'll have an easier time with regulators. right. and so essentially that

makes it a virtual currency rather than say, a crypto currency boom bus been swan and christie. i thank you both for your insight today. you it's been one week since freedom day in the united kingdom if the nation took a major leap towards returning to some sort of normalcy. lifting nearly all remaining coven related restrictions on public life. and now it seems a so called ping demick could have a major impact on the newly reopened economy. the u. k. is using a tracking trace app by bad national health service, which calls for sell pipe lation. if you spent time close to an individual who later tested positive for cobit 19, and now there is a growing concerned that the pink demick, i'll keep saying that word ping demik could cost the nation's economy. $6300000000.00 in just 4 weeks. if rules related to the app art relaxed according to data from the center for economic economics and business research, the guardian is even reporting that some companies are saying 15 to 20 percent of their staff are absent due to isolation guidelines,

while insult by felician himself. last week, prime minister boris johnson was asked by parliament about the government's handling of the app and tracing. everybody understands the the inconvenience of being a being pinged as you writing says, you're, i'm, i was, i was with you in the, in the, in the comments chamber today. i apologize to everybody in business talk the dog. i did all kinds of services, public sector, or otherwise i who are experiencing inconvenience. and for more on this, let's bring in hilary ford, which the board member of the british american business association at present, a stroll mark, business development consultants. hillary, thanks for being here. as always, brand. alright hillary, i want to start with the basics. ok. so what did you, how exactly does this app work? and why are so many people being pinged in the u. k right now? right. so it's actually brand an algorithm on one smartphone. and how it works, it works fine. bluetooth technology that was developed by apple and google. so what

happens is that when somebody registered, it is anonymously into the post. it's called a postal code in the u. k. not a zip code, but they also enter in obviously, and allowing their bluetooth to be activated. therefore, anybody within a 60 radius of them for more than 15 minutes is then trace and where they go is trace the entire bluetooth ecosystem resonate throughout all of the phones. so if you're within 66 feet, and within 15 minutes of somebody who test positive, you are then pinged as a potential for carrying the virus. and this of course is resulted, as you mentioned, and you just said not to patients, leave it truthfully. the ping demick because multiple people, hundreds of thousands of facts over 600037 have been pink in the last couple of weeks. so it's a vast potential of the population aren't. and so i want to go to the economic angle with that $6300000000.00 over 4 weeks, which is could happen, which could affect the economy. of course, think about this, the, the delta very the better than appear to be going anywhere. so 4 weeks is just

a small sample size for what may be the case here. so how is this going to take a toll on the economy? what types of workers are being affected right now? well, it's interesting for us to note this, i think globally because the u. k is being viewed as sort of the canary in the coal mine because we have to see what's happening over there. so what sort of happening every kind of business really, brent and actually, ironically, versus the cobra pandemic. there are more shortages more quickly because of the staff shortages. that's what's causing that. so for example, let's just pick one sandwich, a chain petro. marcia has co, 17 locations, b, p 's port ho, b p petroleum, which is gas, people's cause or they've cose, multiple sites due to staff shortages. so pumps, anything recreational any postal services, so haircuts, supermarket chains, restaurants, anything where there are people in bold, they're having shortages, and even things like the nissan plant and the rolls royce plant, i've had to slow down because they're missing so many staff members. and so it seems like after lifting all of these restrictions,

things have almost gone back to where we were last spring and summer where so many things are shut down this time only because people forced to self isolate rather than the social distance that we looked at before now we've heard this could have an actual major effect on supply chains as well. how so it with a supply chain to do to the stop and what's happening is because the staff can't show up on like actually cove. it, we're actually, although the number the people were testing positive, a lot of people still were at work you're finding is people aren't able to go to work because we have this 10 day isolation period. and by the way, i wanted to add that you asked me how it worked. if one does not do what the and it just says which is your pink and then you make it a phone call. you can be fined up to 10000 pounds. and since the pound is it about $138.00, that's about $13800.00, so not many people want to throw that kind of money away. so the reason it's affecting the supply chain, brent is because so many staff members are out of the supply chain and that's what's happening across the u. k. there have been supermarket shortages and what

they reckon it is due to is people are now panic buying on top of the staff shortages. and that is putting obviously of spanner in the works for the entire supply chain. well, and while things were locked down, you could kind of anticipate who wasn't going to be there. they were going to work from home and things like that. and now obviously you're given one day. notice if that to say, i won't be there tomorrow, and i won't be there for 10 days because this is what's happening. i can see how that's having a huge effect now quickly here before we go, the energy. this is also please asking britain to please, please don't delete the app. don't turn off your bluetooth tray thing. don't turn off your location tracking because we need this app to work. otherwise, we're really not going to know what we might have a bigger pandemic on our hands here again. so what about that? is there concern there that this next wave could get even worse? yes, and i will tell you though, what's your 1st point about the app and then asking people not to delete the app a you go pull poll last week. found the one only $1.00 and $5.00 or actually even using the app at least 10 percent across every age demographic has turned it off

and or turned off their bluetooth. they might have the app, but they've turned off their bluetooth. so it makes it look like they're sitting at home diligently, but we're, they're doing lots of things. so i don't know that the app is even really effective . that does she a scary thing if you think about it, because it has that many pings, and so many people have turned it off. that's actually even scarier. so in terms of the big picture, what does this mean? actually, the delta virus is supposed to be more contagious, but not as deadly. and certainly there haven't been as many hospitalizations at this point. so at least currently right now as we stand, there aren't as many hospitalizations and it's not for you to be as deadly know as impactful as covert taylor, florida to the british american business association. thank you so much radical clarity to this conversation and time now for a quick break. but when we come back, chinese and us officials have held their more crucial meeting since their talks in alaska earlier in the year. straight ahead. we bring you up to speed on the talk and take a deep dive into what role cybersecurity has in their relationship. better get

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watch waiting for them to do can i get a little me . ready ready hey welcome back. tension between the world's 2 largest academies remain contentious as china in the united states have wrapped up their 2nd round of high level talks during the by the administration. the us delegation led by deputy secretary of state, wendy sherman found itself at odds with its chinese counterparts, which said the relationship quote is now at a stalemate on a host of issues. the disagreements between the 2 sides encompass topics from

sections to detained while way. cfo main ones though, is it all in the remedial with china urges us on conditionally withdraw to restrictions on chinese communist party members and their families don't withdraw. sanctions on chinese leaders live restrictions on chinese course, suppressing chinese interest withdrawal designation of chinese media and as for an agents withdraw the expedition request for being one. joe. we also expressed strong satisfaction with the us regarding wrong words and actions on such as 1900 origin tracing now high the taiwan jang, hong hong kong in the south. we demanded the u. s. immediately stuff interfering and chinese internal affairs. some damaging china in the interests stop stepping on red lines and playing with fire or engaging in provocation. and the growing rift between the 2 sides now involved cybersecurity after the u. s. and allies, a cute hackers tied to china. the ministry of states,

security of breaching microsoft exchange email servers earlier this year and allegation, the chinese government flatly denied last week. for more on this, let's bring in touch did leave the cybersecurity expert and president of dark intel . always a pleasure to have you on todd, i want to start with. they were really focused on these discussions, but cybersecurity is starting to play a big role between the 2 side. how important is cooperation between china in the u . s. on cybersecurity after what happened last week. well i think walk, reach is gonna be important, but it's a one sided cooperation. the chinese have never cooperated with us truly were faithfully when it comes to any of these discussions about what they need or want these. it's all ways about what china needs. it's never about the cooperation with the rest of the world. the united states is trying to represent, you know, the rest of the world and use these talks. but they're not really getting anywhere be, is trying, is not going to comply with anything we want top not that is not that i books you to talk about geo political tension solely between china and the united states here

. but i do have a question on that. what responsibility does china, who is on the other side of the world from the united states, is a straight up competitor as the world's 2nd largest economy, which many believe will become the world's largest economy. what responsibility do they have to basically do what the united states that well, they have no responsibility and they're certainly not taking to heart anything that we say b, as they're refuting everything we do, we've arrested some other citizens and they're complaining about it. you know, we know that those citizens have done things that are legal in this country, but they don't care. and so their responsibility to the world is probably a big one. if they truly believe that they were a partner with the rest of the countries in the world, but they don't, they want to do what's in the best interest of china and that's it. and on the same no, bloomberg is reporting the button restoration has no plans to sanction china for the microsoft exchange hack thing. it wouldn't be as effective as other action. you know, i know we've talked about this a lot todd,

but what can the u. s. government do as recourse against what they characterize as state sponsored cyber attack. well, the current administration is taking this, this tactic of naming and shaming. and i don't know that that's necessarily effective. i think there has to be some global of international look at what the chinese are doing. and we all collectively, not just going to states, need to take some sanctions against the chinese for what they're doing. because the microsoft issue was not just in united states. it was all over the world, you know, they got into servers all over the place and they're collecting their intelligence . and they're, they are leaving footprints that are identifiable as belonging to the chinese communist party and their, their employees. but the rest of the world's gotta step up and complain and take action against the answer. you can't do this loan, and i just, i'm sorry to keep playing devil's advocate with you here, todd. but last week also when this whole thing came down, the chinese response was,

we flatly deny that. you know, this is not government sponsored by any means. but then they also went on to point out that essentially the cia is always doing hacking operations in china that affects their economy that affects their business that affects national security. what do you say to that? well, i mean if, if they're doing their job is doing that, i don't know that for a fact, but i would assume based on what their, their mission is that they, they're doing it. the problem is the chinese got caught, the ca hasn't gotten caught. and that's the big difference. and so they just need to deal with the fact that they got caught and move on. and last week i spoke to person for the white house session security council actually said president biden. and senior us officials are going to meet with business executives in august to discuss how they can quote, work together to collectively improve the nation cybersecurity. what are we hoping to come out of this? is this still about reporting hacks? and again, i know i harp on this a lot,

but what can be done to cut down the recent rash of cyber attacks, ransomware, hacks, whatever you want to call them, what can they do? and how is a conversation between the white house and someone like microsoft or colonial pipeline, or can say, how is that going to change anything? well, i don't think it's going to change lot because i think just having the conversation is, is not putting forth the necessary changes within the government and or these companies . i think what's going to change things is what starting to, to proceed. and i said there's some time ago that there's going to be legal changes by congress. and congress was introduce some bipartisan bills to start affecting these companies and how they do business when it comes to cyber security. and i think that's the only thing that's going to change the industry, is that the c e o and the c u suite personnel have to be held responsible for these problems and right now they're not. and how can they be held responses that just say, finding businesses like microsoft when there is

a mistake like this or colonial pipeline for, you know, creating, i mean, not to say it was all their fault by any means. although it was a backdoor that they, the hackers were able to get into which created a shortage across the east coast. of course that was due to panic, buying less due to lack of supply. but i meter what can they do that? well, i think if we look at what we've already done, you remember with the enron, after enron and the problems out of that with the executive levels. they passed sarbanes oxley enforced the executives to be responsible for things and until we do something similar, i think with cybersecurity, which is i think, far more important than stealing money from their company. the cybersecurity issue affects all of us. it's not just the investors in that one company, and so i think until they pass something like that, we're not going to see an effective change then how so it's cybersecurity is handled with these companies. absolutely. cybersecurity expert, todd shipley, thanks for putting up with me today. i always appreciate having you thanks.

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final stage and would implement the technology on a section of public highway in the state. and that's it for this time you can catch go back on demand, on portable tv available on smartphones, tablets, through google play in the apple app store by searching portable tv. portable tv can also be downloaded on newer model, samsung, smart tv, and roku devices, or to check it out at portable tv. well see you next time on boone, but me look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, accept where's the short or conflict? with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. the point obviously is to great truck rather than fear i would like to take on various jobs with artificial intelligence,

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