use the number hospitalisation, but we're still being told a pandemic is far from over. joining me now from murphy side is professor callum simple, a member of sage, the scientific committee, advising berth, johnson's u. k. government, during the pandemic. callum, i don't show you a speaking as an advisor to borrow johnson or is calum simple. you can have to tell me, but we do know now the bar john to the extra advisor dominant cummings said that the prime minister is understanding from the scientists is always being co would seriously affect the over eighty's. that's been the main concern of the prime minister, reportedly. what is your latest study telling us about acute covered? so i'm a professor of medicine and child health, the university of liverpool and i get invited to attend stage meetings. the government senior advisors are chris with the and patrick balance, and they choose the expert and their advice, and that's my role. i bring to that data from research studies i'm personally responsible for. so i have to take personal responsibility for the data. i present

the, the reality is the cobra does not just the disease of the frail and elderly and we are seeing children a bit hostile and adult submitted hospital. the reality is the death mostly does occur in people over the age of 50 and far more people label with age of 75. that goes off exponentially buzzword very steeply as age gets all. but if you look at people damaged by covered, even people as young as 19 are suffering damage in hospital, which we can measure. and some of the children to rarely get inflammatory syndromes and require quite a lot of hospital care. so to say that this is just a disease, the frail, an elderly is definitely wrong. well, i'm sure the anti faxes will come out in force treating against this show, but this was a study of $70000.00 adults and all be this is rare. the proportions that

i've got to figure 27 percent between 1929 year olds, 37 and 3239 year old. and the organs effected a kidney long and hot. and you think this is a long term issue for these people suffering from this acute conditions caused by covered. so this is a study conducted and you can hospitals in 300 into hospitals. so it's generalizable as conduction england, scotland, and wales. so you can say to do any special problem in any one of our countries or any failing in any one particular hospital says or call quality generalizable data . the study has been peer reviewed. so unlike the fraudulent my format and report which has been retracted because of plagiarism and data quality issues, this is a study that's been to the gamut of peer review. what we found when we looked at 70000 adults age between 19 and i think the oldest son 100, something was quite

a surprise. we found it. even the younger adults were suffering tissue injuries to the lung, liver, kidney, heart, and occasionally the brain as well. the commonest injury was a thing called kidney acute kidney injury. and you would expect most people with a kidney injury to actually get better. but some will have a step wise reduction kidney function which may lead in decades to come to need for renewal, replacement therapy or problems handling drugs or metabolized for the kidney. so what we're starting to get know is really granular understanding of how calmer covered damages people of all ages, particularly adults. so these are cute injuries occurring in hospital. we do know this concept of long covert, but the injuries we're seeing in hospital are unlikely to get better overnight or even a matter of weeks. so i think some aspects of the damage caused by corporate and

hostile are leading into the parts of the syndrome called long covert and to some way to explain long hold it, not all the way that some way. and these are the vaccinated or the unvaccinated suffering like this. what are the proportions? the study reporting was conducted before vaccination, so it's, they were all unvaccinated. we've seen a huge benefit from vast nation and hospitals. the age groups being admitted to hostile majority or no under 50, and or unvaccinated, and the mature or have had the vaccine, but it's not low enough to work yet. so totally different population is now coming into hospital is mostly under 50. and the paradox here is these are salvageable people. these are people that we can save their lives with the highest interventions. but that means that they take a hospital resources as we say their lives. now we keep them well. so there's still

quite a high burden on our health care system generated by these people that are not vaccinated . now, i should just say about, i have a mexican in case no one knows about it. and antiviral being talked about. and as you said, peer review has shown it to be fraudulent. apparently, i should also just say that apparently the government has reported the thinking of vaccinating 12 or 15 year old. you're not so sure about the effectiveness of injecting children and i am are in a vaccine. i've been sitting on the fence on the vaccination of children issue for some time. while i waited to hear more about the safety data in the younger age groups. and the conclusion i'm coming to and this is very much partial conclusion. we do know that covered causes some harm to children, but if vanishingly rare, and if you won't silence the risks, the pure health risks against the, again,

very rare side effects of the vaccine is a really, really finally balanced argument. however, if you take into consider the wider impact of covered on disrupting children's education and their social and emotional development and taken to the consideration that children do amplify that disease to some extent. mainly because they're the only group that aren't vaccinated. that i think the overall argument sways in favor of fascinating are teenagers. but that's an arguments that's involving a big picture argument that's taking care of the effect of society and education. not just health suspiciously correlates with these reports, the government and just about to announce obviously being an expert particularly in the midst and maybe may be an issue. i should just quickly ask another thing about vaccination. their reports from israel,

that shortening the delay between 1st and 2nd, vaccines seems to have impacted on the efficacy of the vaccination program over there. whereas we've kept it the same sort of length here . are you aware aware of that? and then therefore, the dangers of shortening that length. yes, and we've got to study ongoing in the u. k. i think it's called the predict study. and they've looked at different durations of distance between 1st dose and 2nd dose . but i think they're shown showing that a 6 to a week delay between 1st and 2nd dose is probably optimal and is worthwhile keeping that delay right? about 6 to 8 weeks when prevalence is relatively middle of the road, not any high. and, and that's because you're, you do get a slightly better pick up with that delay. and it does allow you to vaccinate more

people. so this is the balance between pushing for early full immunity and spreading the 2 doses to get more people vaccinated and given amount of time and a longer lasting effect. so a little bit of delay seems to be a good thing even for the fines or even for the pfizer and other r n a based fastens. and just just quickly, before i get on to immune escape, is it any true to the delta variant? help to kill off the variance to be to varian he for 84 k that seem to bypass the answers that occur. and pfizer and we're done vaccines. so we have the delta vary to fax of have it's really hard to know. especially these viruses compete for ecological spaces or they compete to find people to in fact. and if one virus just slightly more infectious, is likely better at making people infectious for longer or produces more virus from

the nose and throat. then that gives it a huge advantage in the population. we are aware of that, delta is escaping all of the current vaccines because all the current vaccines are based on a strain that was circulating in early 2020 the good news is that all the vaccines are editable. now, because they use this editable r n a technology. so the way of seeing this pan out is, i think, come winter or spring. we'll have boosters for over 50 year olds and people that are chronically extremely vulnerable. and the boosters will be targeted, say the delta and the bitter strains. you might get a it will be a vaccine soup of probably the 2 most recent relevant strains. ok, i better quickly say that when you say me an escape with the delta, you mean you don't mean that people become seriously ill after vaccination movie

because you have much milder responses to it. much milder illness and this is, this is really good, but some still will come into hospital particular those sort of very frail which just in the wind, just not to change direction for some people to go into hospital so they might be double vaccinated and they'll still come into hospital, but they wouldn't have died. and that's, that's really good. the fact scenes are the scenes are superb faxing that we would, we'd have been very happy to settle for the vaccines. had the even been 5060 percent factor. and to start off the vaccine, it was 85 to 95 percent effective as wonderful. and that's given us some wiggle room that allows these new variance to still be targeted using this actually. yeah, i know big pharma champion and i had it often. the 2nd vaccine and it was very mild . just finally. what about the fact that the viral evolution exploded oxy sierra's category thing? we have 92 percent. everybody's in this country. we now have the possibility of

immune escape in terms of mutation at its highest level in britain here. obviously, scientists around the world criticizing the british government in a way, sage by inference, is now the time that we're most going to be able to expect a new british variant because of the high levels of explanation here in britain. they don't quite work that way. if you go, if you've got very high levels of explanation in most your population, you stop virus and evolving in these areas because it's got less opportunity. the worst case scenario when you get partial vaccination in your community, your mailbox nation, and that's why we do need to push forward and get as much the population vaccinated . i'm not sure that i quite agree with his argument and many others that don't agree with his argument. the, the concern for me is here is that the pediatric population,

we probably only got about 25 percent of the population of children exposed to the virus presence. so we haven't got sufficient coverage there to prevent a risk of viral escape and evolution in that population. so again, that's another good reason for pushing forward with vaccination and the children at the moment. project column sample. thank you. thank you very much. after the break in the week of the 100 and 25th anniversary of the opening of the 1st ever for profit movie theater. and i just go pole in the united states. is it time for hollywood, germany to come to an end? we speak to philip coach whose new filled night, the kings expose african ancient oral tradition from inside an ivory coast prison. all the small coming up and bought 2 of going underground. ah

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join me every 1st name on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests in the world. the politics sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the welcome back to this week mark free 100 and 25th anniversary of the opening of the 1st cinema by jessica pole in the u. s. since then, the u. s. has come to dominate the global cinema industry through hollywood, which is faced accusations of being a tool for the united states is foreign policy establishment from black lifting of alleged communists to working closely with the us military. so is it time for a realignment to let us centric film industry a new film tip for an oscar night of the kings tells a story not often seen in the world of hollywood, exploring class politics and revolution in a tory is ivory coast. prison is direct. tiffany black, co joins we know from i. b johnny called to vall, fairly welcome to going underground. what an amazing film night of the kings is. i

have to say right from the outset of the prior to national view as well. same people here, they know, did the, a drug where they know chocolate from ivory coast. and they might know about the qu, backed by the french government in 2011. which features in your new film. tell me about this oral tradition that you've resurrected for us in this amazing fil, referred tradition. i, i, i'm trying to show additional tradition of why the g o, as in the course and in west africa, we have a real it's, we will be a man or woman and they are all the story and voice of our story. and i want it to be a to do in this scene to the so i've done so demonte credit always

myself just, you know, i wanted to see, you know, ah ah, when you me and your main character is like sure harris side. and so it is kind of international, even though it's set in this bleak prison called the mocker. it's somehow international and yet so enclosed your job was to, to go to go inside to be in the mesh in, in the mission. in my car, please arms are men. we've done off what you guys are meant. we don't know if i we goes inside the doorway and in the same time to other story to our records show about. so we did. he was universe. i know scott, i was, i was to,

we will share with for me the best friend go off and fall on time. so i do this piece and gave it to my guy is or blood's to tell your story. already tonight. and if you want to survive, you know, to finish the story. i know you've talked about how george and a maybe to some known on the gene genie from by david. very, john genay is name the master thief. storyteller of france. inspire this as well. when you want to speak about please on, and specially about design all shunting on, it's obliged to think about johnson and jimmy out there piece of colleges made. and in this, in just after these meds play their mistress during 111

evening and in the rankings might result very play kings and queens doing one night. ah your knees to ah yeah, there's a bit of our lady of the flowers to people say report friendly. people say that they watch this program in guantanamo even in this prison in ivory coast, which you show as being so appalling. i mean, it is appalling. the, the shadow of guantanamo washington's guantanamo georgia camp even hangs here in this, in one of the scenes. yes, this shadow, i'm going to no more. he's in,

he's in my job and i wanted to say something about her petition of friday. so software begin side on games and they play like one movie. so it's a sort of miss on that. the offer on the inside the prison. and who is zelma king, the man whose life your main character tells the story of. it was there. we have our, i was again believe off to young by not be $8.00 to $18.00. yes. and then the name of this is lindy. call my cars and they took away and then from the city of god, there was seen because they watched the same. it's very famous in the joe and back very what smith to was know distance and they wanted to,

to make the send by just seen. and some was, was a young but, you know, in some mystical to fight. and after you began, a young boy was political or 1000000000 and it became and after, after you didn't get to become a sort of job story of this done with young people. and finally, you were lease by yeah, there are connections there. obviously the fulfill as of brazil in the city of god . we now know that lula who's been on this joe as well as to say, with the lies we're told about him. you have laurel back bow, who made international headlines when he was, i don't know what you, how you think of it because you show the news footage suddenly,

amidst the scenes of the film, whether it was the french that kidnapped him, i understand he's returned in the past few weeks to be john, after being a quite different international criminal court. not just to show the french matching. in reality, yes, i would say that to my work, united records started in 2002. when i came in, the united goes to make it there to montgomery, about my childhood fans. a friend called him who died in mac out what i wanted to make a documentary about him and about this kind of generalization and 3 days later. so on started. so my scene already got us. why not? because we can watch, i have to offer offer you can cry united because so i photo i photos, this was in my stress teacher and the same thing. and now i want to g as

this moment just because it's very bus and why not? when i saw my team was blocked off for a video, and i said, i knew i would make it entry in this day, wednesday, wednesday when one day i was to do it by the way. and i had gotten some archives, some image on 3 of my sons, but how do you maintain a distance as a director and writer, given that your own mother was imprisoned in jail and you were 8 years old and she was in jail for being a political revolutionary yeah, i'm gonna put it to get some maybe get some strong image when i, when i drive a collective taxi one day by week to go to see my mother back up. and now my guys

open please on. and as a, as a visitor, you can discuss, we can take your way if we can take your newspaper into action like this and for me, i edge, now my guy was like a kid which cleans in that case. and i want to, i get that much. i mean i, they set up to fail are all the characters set up to fail. people have said that some western nations have deliberately created a structural adjustment system in ivory coast to fail. you know, i, because we switch our country, police, police guys, country because we were on guys are control of fedex. so for office where you don't really need the support, the guns. what was a lead?

freak out was friends. so we say sometimes i because he's a window of france and now forgot. so we can, we can see their window. but today, at the very last option to at united read both ways locked off into i've and read, read, read, read once. some prices wants to be in did find out economically, politically, but it's not going to be in the band when. when's a main army of sauce is own eyes records and everything is going to be in different way or your economy is based on it's josh. we y'all, is there all caught on it? so it's a site. it's not there for 2 slides. one, the job to 5. it's a human side to to so show 5. but i believe i believe in this, in this site,

and i just got recon recon, we can speak without vice and some say it's a 5 repeated in other countries, but we don't get many sub saharan african films in the 1st place. just tell me out of, i mean, hopefully there will be more but the currently actors that are in this film are actually from, i don't know, is it called the lawless quarter of be john? you just have got them to act. yeah, we made we made for a gas station, not be john professor and i was notary. so for the restaurant in 2 days and i was not very happy with the scott and decided to go in different sub job during 2. yes. research. so maybe 2000 young people and finally respected thought to be part of what the young people then

seeing gus much out of 5 yards. and we made a web shot doing to mouse by this way. we define all discord. washy. all we found this further, my god, oh, i've not got any notes on the old rod. yeah. but god does the job. i did not buy a lot of bob. this is the last one. again, the drug goes on as well. it does.

yeah. you know, it's, it's strange, but the prison per capita population in ivory coast is less than in france, the old, colonial monster. and maybe as you say, some say to have colonial mastery. you know, in a way it was incredibly important. presumably in the film to, to create an echo of society outside prison as it is in prison. yeah. they're usually what, what's the main reason it's got to send me off to the society, went away and specially about violence. violence you will see freeze on violence was also also psyche. so i wanted to use this done for me. it was only just a complete society society with this quote with this law with this belief. and i

want you to just, oh, they did was power over for a succession and trying to, to other, to other it was, you know, we outside of both our united because we do with politics. filica. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show will be back on saturday until then keep in touch with us on the la social media and let us know if you'd like to see more films that don't handle us or lead address. oh i you know, going to count down the next day. she has torn in a storage day in monetary history. that would be august 15th, 1971, the dated then president. richard nixon closed the gold window,

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