a spiritual leader to present and what does that involve? well, you have to be very careful as to what you say and insert. i want to keep those conversations private. that's very important. i know your president and student present fulton in this country, you know, says very difficult to forgive people that betray and i think his right thing for purge him and where we can betray the confidence of president or someone that we're dealing with spiritually. and so my father was very careful and i tried to be careful to do you feel the button of that responsibility or indeed sort of the power. you know, when you're speaking festival, if you've got such an incredible reach, you know, there are 90 to 100000000 evangelicals. i think in the u. s. at the moment your

father himself spoke, i think in total 2 over 200000000 in 185 countries. i mean, that is a huge responsibility. you have to be so careful with one's was because, you know, that could be real consequences. you do have to be very careful and and i don't think, i mean, i'm sure there many times i have failed. but we are so we strive to be careful. we realize that god has put us in this position and we don't take that lightly. god can also take us out of that position if he wants. i'm an ambassador of the king of kings and the lord of fords, and that's jesus christ. i put my faith and trust in him and i'll follow him. and i believe that when christ died on the cross, he died for the sins of mankind all sins. and if we repent and turn from those sins and put our faith and trust in him, god will forgive our sins and heal our hearts. and. and this is,

this is the message that i want to share with a president or with a person on the street. i want everyone to know that god loves and cares for them. and that jesus christ as his son who came not to condemn the world, but to save the world back in 2015 as well. i know talking about higher up politically you did meet with florida person if rumors that believed for 45 minutes, which is not the quick meet and greet. what impression did you have of the president like him very much. and i find him to be a person if he says he's gonna do something, that's what he does. and that's refreshing with a lot of political leaders don't do that. that's one thing i liked about president trunk. if he told he was going to do something, that's what he did. and so i think those 2 presidents have maybe a lot more in common than people realize they both were, i think, very direct,

their honest. your president or president putin is going to do what he thinks his best for russia. president trump and did what he thought was best for him, do not estates. and that's good. that's what presidents should do. but we need, though to work together have dialog together. and cooperate together. if we don't, then we'll just get further for their part and that's very dangerous. the relations between our 2 countries is the lowest. it's been maybe since the cold war. and i find this very troubling. it doesn't need to be this way. we have so much in common with russia, with the russian people. and we need to find ways to work together. it doesn't mean that we have to agree on everything. but we need to be working together and talking together and listening to one another is so important on the question of trump actually, and of course to, to present in that relationship. is it fair to say that you had a bit of

a hand in the 2 of them coming together in helsinki in 2018? i don't know. i don't think that necessarily had a hand and i encouraged the president trump every time i was with him. to try to work with russia. the problem we had is the media turned on president wrong. they gave out false information on president trump accused russia interfering with elections and these types of things. and it just divided our country and made it almost possible impossible for president trump to do anything. and that was very sad that that happened it because it's heard both countries and times of the way that you're saying how the u. s. act when you came in 2015, i think you were supposed in front of a map of russia, which nowadays counts as collusion. you are very brave man,

but you also during the visit, met with russian politicians at least one that i know is under us. sanctions did not have any repercussions. how was that received? well, i don't care. i mean, just because the united states versus the sanctions on somebody that doesn't mean they're guilty as, as they've decided to pick on a particular person. and i think that's probably wrong. i don't believe in the sanctions. i think the sanctions heard, i don't think the sanctions do anything. so make people more mad. and i look at sanctions that were put on other countries around the world and it's usually other people that get hurt. the smaller people get hurt and i would, i would lift those sanctions unless get on the business. at the same time i do, i did read that. you did criticize a president trump for the way that he dealt with the media. how kind of wage the war on it if you take out the way that he dealt with it,

do you think that the issue does remain that the media does have a problem with the way it reports nowadays in america will present the difference? well, president trump is a unique person, we've never had a president like him. and he's not a politician. and so he just says what he thinks. and as a result of that, he just said what he thought about the media. and, and i think that hurting, and i think he would say the same thing today. if he could turn the clock back, i'm not sure he would do that again like that because it was, it just distracted his administration. and i think her hurt his chances for reelection on the issue of reelection since he raised it. do you think that will rerun in 20? 24? no, i don't know he's, he's a very strong person and he is and very good health. and there's as long as he has

good health. yes, i think you'll run. but again, that's, he'll be 78 years older. so vital 17. and he's not in good health. what regarding the biden presidency? is it so far what you expected it would be the by ration it's hard for me to as to say. i know president by knew him as a, as a senator. i have not been with him and also vice president. i have not seen him since he's been president. i pray for him. i pray that god will give him strength and wisdom. he is, he's not in the best of health, but i believe that god can give him strength and that's my. and i pray for in terms of the things that you've said as well in the past, in 2003, i think you voice support the invasion of iraq. and this was something that you

spoke to, to your community, to push politicians about. do you still stand by that that was the right decision to do all these years on know i, i didn't, didn't, i don't support war. okay. i don't. and i don't, i don't believe in the, the invasion of iraq rock was not involved in the, the destruction of the twin towers in new york. that wasn't, that didn't come from iraq. and there are many christians and iraq, and many wonderful people. and i personally think the innovation of iraq was a mistake. do you think it's why, what's happening now with putting out all the troops? do you think it's too late? well, i think not all the us troops are out of, out of iraq. there are special forces units that work there, and also in northern syria, because now kato is,

is still very much involved in those rural areas. and so i think we will need to be there maybe for some time as ganna. stan, i think most of our troops now are now gone. it was a very difficult place for russia. i'm not sure how long russia was involved. i think it was around 10 years or so. we've been there 20 years. and nothing has changed. didn't change when the russia left and says not want to change after the united states, please. and it's unfortunate that it is the way it is. but as a very difficult part of the world was that something that president trump was quite decisive, that he knew that that's what he wanted to do. he campaigned on the platform of no form was no more for an intervention and was, was, was that something he knew he came to the white house. he thought that task and

that's what he wanted to do. i think for present room when, when a dead soldier comes back to the united states, it comes into dover, airbase, and delaware not far from washington, dc. and the president would go down there and meet every body. next day they came back and meet the families of fallen soldiers and that was very hard on him, very difficult. and he did not want war and he wanted peace. so he was an advocate for, i think peace. he wanted to ask amazon. he didn't want to see america dragged into these wars, and so whether it's the right decision on the wrong, so that's i think that's he just did not want to be involved in it. when trump was elected in 2016, you said that this was called walk old gold handles. and if i'm not mistaken,

why do you think that was, was trump the man that america needed in that time? i believe so. and here's the reason why i believe the democratic party was against him. the republican party to not back him. he won the election one denomination, but they did not supporting. and he campaigned in an unorthodox manner. and i remember on election night, i talked to mike pence and of course he was a vice president at the time, so i called him mike, i don't call mike now upon mr. vice president. but i said, mike, if you all, when i make sure the president understands its god because they were expecting to lose, they were behind on all the polls. and that night they won their election and i

think it was god that, that pushed him over. and i think he was god's choice and guardsman for that moment . and so i'm trying for god that we had the president for 4 years. i wish that he had had 4 more years. i think our relationships with with this country would be completely different. i know that president trump wanted to reach out to president putin and began to work together. and that that didn't happen. what was your biggest, in your opinion, the biggest shipment of the trump presidency or the thing that made you most happy about it? well, i think the judges that here pointed here, wanted very conservative judges to the federal bench those to the supreme court. i think we're, we're good choices. i think that will be his legacy or the judges. and

that won't affect my children and my grandchildren lives for years to come. i think this is because legacy and your biggest disappointment of the trump. yes. i don't. i don't know if i can say a biggest disappointment. no question. i think the way his president say ended was a disappointment. especially january 6th. i think for a disappointment. but tom will know history will judge or the election was stolen or not. there are about 100000000 americans. i believe there was something amiss in that election, and they there feel very strong about it. so it may take time to sort that out.

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john $900.00. jeff, aren't abdulla still don't know who was waiting for them to do? can i get a hold of me? i want to talk a little bit about what today's america looks like because from the outside one reads a lot about how there's a crisis in america. there's a lot of tom. well, there's a lot of division. and when i think about it, i often think that maybe it's because now people fail to agree what it means to be

american. everyone has a different idea of what direction the country should be and what the values are. what does it mean for you to be in american freedom? the united states is, is a mixture of the whole world. many cities have large russian communities. and so it's just a unique country. but what god has blessed america more than any other country in the world. the problem that america faces today is that we have turned our back on god. god had his hand of blessing. and i think his hand has been withdrawn because we have turned back on him and his loves. and we see so many problems as a, as a result of our politicians and many of our leaders turning their back on god standards and his laws. politics may say this one day politics may say this

one day, god's laws are the same. and those cannot be changed at a whim. and yes, and our country united states is sad to see how so many politicians are follow. just what the local trends are. they're not concerned about what's right or wrong, they're just trying to get reelected. and it's sad that they would compromise truth and don't move. we could never compromise god's truth. you seem to me struggles to stairs, religion and politics. because often you are seen as a channel of communication between that say to trump administration, and of course the tens and tens of millions of infant jericho in the us. do you in any way, consider yourself a politician from no i don't consider myself a politician,

but i speak on political issues because political issues have an impact on the church and, and i think i should speak out on those thanks. i speak out of moral issues. politicians say that abortion is a political issue. while i say time out, it's not a political issue. it's a moral issue. is that taking the life of an unborn child? and so that's a moral issue. and as a, as a, as a preacher, as a follower of christ, i have every right to speak out on that issue. politician may not like that, but i'm going to speak out on those things that affect truth. oh gods law. what the bible has to say, and so that's what i speak out. mostly that's what i speak out on. do you think certain churches uncompromising stance on particularly social issues?

like l g b t writes, that might be something that pushing people especially younger generations away from the charge because there is of course, an argument to be made that the church is sort of the lighthouse in the storm. you know, values change, the world is become so fast moving and the church stands committed to the path to traditions. but it's not a strength or weakness. no, no, there's not small past and as non tradition, the word of god, the bible is the same yesterday to day tomorrow. as god's word doesn't change. and god made marriage between a man and a woman that's. that's the way god intended it this way. god made it and for somebody to come and try to change. what god has said, marriage is, well, that's wrong. and i have a right to speak out on the people that want to live gay lifestyle

in america, they have the freedom to do them. if you're a conservative living in america today, was that religiously conservative, socially. what do you think? how do you think they feel about how people perceive them nowadays? because at least one seems to read about it and they talk about how that person persecuted. you know, website from social media, whether that's the media that demonize does not an accurate representation of what's happening. well i think i think followers of jesus christ have been demonized by hollywood for many years. ah, the christians are portrayed as in a negative light. many times in, in entertainment industry and that overflows into the media. and there, there are people in the christian faith that have made mistakes and have failed. and of course the media likes to pick out one or 2 of those and highlight them. but

that's not the, the, the norm, those are the exceptions that they try to highlight those exceptions. do you think that that there's going to be a lot more pushback from exactly the more traditional conservative side of the let's say the political spectrum precisely because people feel that doesn't overdose of culture at the moment. i think i think people are getting sick of it. and they're getting tired of it and it's a, it's just, it's just endless. and it's as craziness. if you take in my country to be funding the police. okay. seattle. they found the police department and the mayor would not support the police department. and this few days ago, they had a number of shootings and murders and, and the american is now asking for more police. okay. well, it's

a little late, but yes, this is woke. culture is gone too far and we need laws. we need the police. there is right and there is wrong and we just have to have common sense. and i think the walk culture is that there's, this is boyd of common sense on the issue of thief on the piece that was all triggered, of course, by the black lives matter movement. we will for the scenes of those millions marching of the burning cities as well. what were your thoughts when you were watching those scenes? well i think when like with george floyd and my heart was broken when i, when i watched them and when they said i came breeze and a police officer just ignoring it just broke my heart that that,

that man was that police officer that was that insensitive it was just wrong and we have seen injustices like that and as wrong. and we need to, we need to use the law to protect people. but there are tens of thousands of policemen that are wonderful men and women that do their job every day. that risk their lives to protect the men and women of the streets and we need the support of the police departments. and because there is 111 bad apple doesn't mean all the other apples are bad. i mean, we have to understand the police are human and they make mistakes to do you think that the u. s. does have an issue or needs to walk when it comes to quality, especially racial quality. do you think there is institutional racism?

i think the united states has made great strides over history. if you think my great grandfather, of course, when he was born there were staves in america. and to think that we had on and 15050, some years, 160 years from slavery to where we are today. i think we've made great strides in our we perfect no way. we're not. but with the difference in america and other countries, america is constantly trying to improve doesn't mean we always do it right. but that's to that, that is the goal of our country is to try to improve. and i think racially, we have made great strides, but we've got a lot more to do the way that you look at america now. and the way that you feel about american now, is that the same way that you felt about the country 203040 years ago?

or is any disappointment that's arisen where any of the opposite could move pride? well, i mean, i love my country, i'm an american, i'm proud of my country. i'm proud of what my country has been able to do. over over the centuries, we are not a christian country, we're not a perfect country. we have many, many problems. but i still love my country and and i look at the churches that have come out of our country and the missionary efforts were we have taken the gospel around the world. i'm so proud of what america has been able to accomplish in those areas, spiritually and what we've done for the world after the 2nd world war. america could have taken all of europe if they wanted to, but we help to rebuild germany. we help to rebuild japan and, and get them back up and get them going and get the people lives back together. and

i'm from proud of our country for doing that. and we just need to look at where we are today. and the world is different is not the same, but we got to work together about a covert. we have to mention covert it's $22021.00. i know that you have advocated for the vaccine. you think that it's the right thing to do. it's not going to be a hard sell with the evangelical community. i think it's a hard, several people period. i've talked to church leaders here. it's a hard sell here in russia. there are a lot of people, there's as anti vaccine for whatever reason. and the same in the united states and, and the church, no question. there people, the church that are afraid of the vaccine. i think in the united states military is like 60 percent don't want the vaccine. so i don't know when, when the vaccine was available for me,

i took it and i'm glad that it was available. i'm 69 years old and i want to live a few more years of i can what keeps you up at night? not in tons of personal thing, i'm not going to pride, but globally, what are the things that kind of you have wiring around your head will. out of the day we work in 130 countries. i've got about it. it's americans, person we have about 1800 people working just in our offices in the united states. we have several 1000 people. thanks. 4000 people, the workforce overseas. the work i think is what keeps you up sometimes a niger because you know, things that you've got to get done the next morning because people's lives depend on it. and so those are things that keep me up most of night. just worry about, are we going to be able to respond quick enough fast enough?

and people are looking to us for that help and i want to make sure we do it the best we can me. algorithms and neural networks have been following us everywhere. we look online because our relationships are what matters most of us and that's how we find meaning and how we make sense in our place in the silicon valley see don't mention in their sleep presentations. however, i think ghost workers who train the software humans are involved in every step of the process when you're using anything online, were sold as this miracle of automation behind your screen is a rubber workforce. that seems algorithm for next to nothing. on a very good day,

i could do $5.00. now. a really bad day. i could do 10 years worth is removable by design. it's about labor costs, but it's also about creating layers of lessening responsibility between those who solicit the kind of work and need it. and those who do it the pop quiz per session is 0 time and like, what do you call that? what does that word? is called communism right? only in communism with our state run countries, they have no recession, but they also have no way for anybody to have a life rather than being a slave. ok. that's where americans added

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