but there was a welcome in the beginning, including a welcome from you personally trying to very strong. do you think there was ever a good time to leave given how they came into your country. when they came in the aftermath of the tragedy of september 11, 2001 which got the sympathies of the whole world with them. the african people to we're waiting for such a moment of liberation. liberation from liberation from, from extremism from violence, from terrorism, from a creeping invasion from a neighboring country. and from suffering for such a long time. we had to impeding with america before that had when russia had mesh as well as with europe to, to come in and help us get us and free itself. then the international community led by the united states and approved rather sanctioned by the united nations security

council. and where even those countries who did not see eye to eye with the united states on many issues around the world like russia, like china, like iran, the old will come to support the decision of the united states and, and its allies to come tough counsel and when did a change, when did you feel it? and this led to immediate success within a month and a half because i've got people wanted that success dropping. and we've begun to look forward with tremendous hopes towards the future. and it did work. everybody helped the nights this helped russia helped the mister wood helped many, many other countries around the world helped we launched on educating our people boys in those we began to draft

a constitution that was very valuable and got the approval of can people into more critical solution acculturation with rights constitution with opportunities for construction where it was mandated that woman should be at least 27 percent of the of the members of africa, parliament and it worked kind of got us on the most important thing and of care. the son became the home for all atkins from a calculus which i had in the clergy, the lifters, the righteous woman, travel. she is all i think in come to her, but for a very short period of time but was, was not so sure. but the dream, the dream as far as the us can people who are concerned continued very, very well in terms of economic progress in terms of education, in terms of massive, shorter social change towards betterment that walked. all right in terms of specially and stuff. forget building of the african state rebuilding the afghan

state had worked very well off flooding, begun to fly all over the world. and embassies returned to gallus. her life began to look very, very different. but where it failed was, in the conduct of the us military and of the way they conducted the so called war on turkish, off terrace. and they told us that the st. the reason we're outside of capsule, but then they begun to bomb african villages and holders and get all people hurt and, and killed and homes destroyed. that is where the trend towards the negative began. and that is where my differences with the united states began. and that's where in the year or to say in 2006, this difference with the united states became up come now as i'm sure you've all

agree with me. i know complicated international problem has a simple solution and in fact, there is never a choice between a good or even mediocre offices. it's usually a choice between bad and worse. how do you see the best case and the worst case scenario for of ghana in the year or 2 from now? i don't have the worst case scenario for the canister. i have the best case scenario for off campus time. i'm seeing some trends towards that. yes, we are at this moment on a very, very difficult spot. there is immense violence of kennesaw there is. there is immense unger in our country. but i also see the afghans waking up to the new reality in those who want to offer to stay in afghanistan

will make it better. and the region off to region specially russia, china, iran, and hopefully also very important. hopefully also paxton, it realizes recognizes the dangerous of continued instability of cass. this is a great portion moment for afghan has time to take a turn towards betterment. and i'm sure it will lock your interest in, but of course i must for you to india. another great neighbor off of kennesaw that that, that has a record. you mentioned in penny actors, but you haven't mentioned one very important actor just yet. and it, is that the taliban? correct me if i'm mistaken. but i think ever since it emerged in the midnight tonight, is your views on what that movements represents and whether it's good or not for your country have changed. what do you think about them now?

my views about they have no change from the wrongs that were committed then in the wrong that were committed. now my views of them or not, of the scout people, meaning that the all the afghan people i rose against them when they were in power. because i saw them violating the rights of asking people because i saw them loving foreign influences of gather some individuals from the out of countries and, and efficient forces from pakistan. and disregarding the yourself, african people were the reasons on which i based my opposition and as the systems like many other af constant. but when my government came, when the republican i give them a party, they were foreign,

and many of them went to settle down in their homes and begun a peaceful life. then suddenly the united states and some of the local elements begun to attack the thought of on homes and tide finishes and forced them to flee the country. it was, this is the violence committed against the african people in the name of fighting the taliban. that led me to calling the taliban, our brothers, because they belong to our country. they are our countrymen. well, they are your countrymen, but they have very regent views on how other people in your country is supposed to leave, especially girls and women. what do you think will happen to you, you know, half of the relation to the interest of these? it is these views of them, of how women should live in the country and distribution about girls and the rights of women. that i oppose then,

that i continue to oppose now in the child opposing into the future. but the mr. president, to answer her for interrupting you, but you're a such illustrious. a you have such an illustrious biography. you. one of the wisest men said to me and your country may be brought, or you've seen a lot. so i want to get a candid answer from, you know, the diplomatic again, somebody who knows your country well. do you think they will graham the same amount of tolerance? they will not to they, they will not. but we will not allow them that we will have the difference of opinion. the struggle will be somewhere like me, seeking the best rides for our people, for our children, for girders, and that african nurse should have the best education scholars to everywhere else. if the taliban continue to oppose that this will be confronted. but i want to just

confirm edition to be political, not military, do want it to be political and not military. the, they must agree to that order. they will be defeated. the gun people will rise against him. the gun people are given day when a newport church will receive peace. when the african people call for peace. this means and paternity to co exist and to allow the country to progress if they don't allow that. and if they continue to, to, to seek their own domination of canister the way they think of it, that will give rise to a nation uprising without a doubt. and i'll be one of those people if it wasn't me. but let's say, you know, the parent. so one of the school girls who died or rather killed tragically in maine, that terrific by those hacked by the yes and implying that the taliban did. and the tell him has a history of attacking women and girls. if it were them sitting in front of you and

pondering whether they should send their other daughters to school, would you have the got to say them that my own daughters are going to school enough garrison? they go to school right now. they go to shop. they go to play, they go to school because we are attacked by doors, extremist elements, terrorists who don't want us educated. we must add to our resolve to send our school children to school or go to school. never give up on that. i would. i'm sure millions of cows won't give up on that, and we will challenge and defeat this terrace forces with or without international communities helping us. but i'm sure you know girls have a better security and then most people in afghanistan, don't you think that makes a difference? it doesn't make a difference, they go to the same school, there are there in the schools, in the city of cobbled. so,

and they go to the markets and the, the that, that physical security is, is more offer more of an appearance rather than the reality when it comes to the threats. i had security was i was also talking many types so, so no security has to be mental investments in security. we have in our resolve to continue the progress that of can son needs in the progress fundamentally lies in the african girls and women being able to educate and go to work in that a fundamental right that would be seeking that i am seeking and will pursue further, okay, well mister president, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned for me

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can the taliban be trusted to stay true to their worth? it isn't the question of trust is the question off the application all efforts for peace in which they have an interest as well. look, eventually the taliban, even if we don't like many aspects of what they have done to our counsel or what they think they are still the african people there are, there are people like we are, they have children that have families that this cougar's, they have voice groups that have suffered like we have suffered the rest of the country. so the all people and the understand that the need piece. therefore, the efforts that russia launched in 2018 november in that continued in 2019 with the can billing of those very significant interesting talks on just the last march . the trial meeting that was held in in moscow with participation from most afghan

size, the thought abandoned the republic, the very significant effort. and i would ask through this interview, the tricia continued the 6 us ice wholeheartedly. and surely we would have results . well, let me ask you specifically about russia, because russia still lists the taliban as a terrorist organization and for the records, it's the world's deadliest group with, i think almost 5000 deaths attributed to it in 2019 that's 3 times more than dias in the same year, do you think any law abiding countries should be talking to terrorist all labeling? any group as tara is given how politically charged that war, they were the, the, the tyler bond being listed as a terrorist by the united nation is the cause of their action, of course. and we have everybody to try to talk to them if there is no alternative

because there are no alternatives things when drunk, things went wrong and the, the began to re emerge and part of the population went with them. the answer is not continuing to fight the answers to find the solution and bring the solution. and that is what russia has done and we appreciate it and we wanted to continued in fullest. so yes, talk to them. there are some p is no other alternative. one of the reasons the kremlin is pursuing those talks is because the calculation here is that the taliban is essentially the lesser of all was while they're holding onto the african territory. they serve as a bulwark against other groups, diet and other jihadist groups that may have regional expansion is plan going into central asia perhaps further to russia, whereas the taliban for now and says that they have no ambitions beyond your own country. strategically and tactically, do you think that's an accurate calculation on the part of the kremlin cruz

calculation moscow's calculation to bring about security and stability? enough, candice, out of the fundamental to addressing the speech. once you have a piece of canister and stability of garrison and in government that governs the whole country, the traits that can be post dreshaun to the region automatically go away. i mentioned the school attack and made before, and that was not an isolated incidents because incident because according to the un mission and dentist on the number of attack, the casualties, the injury and the killed, all those numbers have significantly increased since the americans announced their decision to the trips out, how do you personal explained such a sharp growth. busy in violence, where violence has been at the highest in the past few years, unfortunately,

and die. she was responsible for some of the most horrible attacks sufficient against her. the most well goes in there was wonder, boom and people in the cities and die. she is an entirely foreign phenomena. the taliban ought to to our country, to come from our villages and hopes. but the ice is entirely foreign toward country and toward environment. therefore, dice must be treated us as an extremely violent tourist group enters upon all of us to fight against this particular organization dias, or the so called islamic state immersed in your country when the united states had full control over again, aerospace and of its land mass i know that in the past you called it an american failure, but putting diplomatic and beginning cheese or niceties aside, was

a truly a hapless failure or an atten intended outcome. that is a push and we ask every day if this was the result of failure, of the u. s. policy of canada sun where as the unintended consequence we are facing . but if it was not that, then the united states has to explain this to the rest of the world as to what happened. and, 0, one, this explanation will do for your, the rest of the world. it was, if an honest answer, an honest answer by the us, this and honest engagement of willingness with the rest of the world, will make it easier for us to work together and to find solutions. now, while the americans clearly one to disengage from against and there are other regional players who are looking to increase their influence,

i want to ask specifically about turkey and it's ambitions to provide for the security for the airplane and possibly something on a broader scale. do you think that's a good idea for the dennison's people? as well as for turkeys nato partners? again, a son is the home 5 kids. and it is for us to provide and protect our home and our country. it should be the afghans doing this. if it is for a temporary period, whereas garrison needs a sort of service, turkey or any other friend of garrison's work. but of course, in the long term, this is the responsibility of the afghan people and no foreign force the data of gather some protecting any place. but us are already young men. but you know, they're, they're saying in many languages, nothing is more permanent than temporary. don't be in the americans came to your

country on their short term basis, but they said for decades do thing. if the turks come, they will leave as a green we, we do install, but that the church will not come in the large numbers that the service date of the americans did the toe. so talking about the airport, you call for about $600.00. so new people in the us also not determined distance speculation. the principle here should be that afghans should be able to predict their country and to provide for security of are off of the and we have the capacity and we should do it. i want to ask specifically about pakistan because your own family history is very intimately connected to the country. at one point they provide its refuge, but your father was assassinated as well as well. do you think pakistan's game at this point in time? pakistan's game and gannon is aligned with the interests of people of your country

. they have to, they have to ally that with the interest of all people in our country. and they have begun to speak that direction. but they must prove that of pakistan has been an ally of the west and near to from the time of the service from the cold war in the promotion of extremism, religious extremism, against the father. so richard and, and was at that time you are accounted as one of the football support in which i had been yes we were, we were fighting for independence from the former soviet union. so our independence struggle was one thing. but using our struggle for independence from the completion of the soviet union by park sun and the americans and others to promote extra msm was another thing. and it wasn't at our cost at the cost to the afghan people.

we were in the country of course. and believe and country, of course, but not an extremist country. another fundamental not of a domain to this country. so we paid the price, we're still continuing to pay the price for pac sun. and this is our, our most important demand when it comes to relations with parks on that for pac sun . to be hoping to be friends for the gas done. they must give up the use of fixed for mm hm. as a tool of policy, that their doctor during the, the time of the soviet union, then surely the afghan people responded very positively that can, people are very grateful to the parks and the people for the home that they provided us will be refugees. but they have equally strong complaint and anger at the way the government of park sun used extremism to hurt of garrison. and look where we are. look at the suffering of african people. it is because that so is civilized relationship is the fundamental need of relations between of counsel

parks on to improve for the improvement of our traditions. and finally, if i may, we are russians like to say that history doesn't repeat itself, but the rhymes, and to some extent, it applies to the old, big new present case theses of eurasia. as the grand child born with the economic rise of china. i would claim us g, g, g, rebounding of fresh and ganesh, them being in the middle. this region is, is gaining important. it is seen again as the very center of the new world order, theoretically that male for your people, lots of benefits. but practically, historically, it has brought a lot of new liability, which ones are more likely going forward? well, if we'd the afghan people who grasped our immensely important strategic

location well. and which has been for the last 300 years. we are in the middle of envision in which of garrison's neighbours, with the super powers of the day. therefore, those who are competing with the superpowers from far away definitely come into our territory. for that competition. the african people must handle this more accurately and capably. we must understand the value of the size that we are and the location that we are. and use that especially in promoting confidence and trust with our neighbors and the major powers in our region. and have the with us as allies for stupidity. one of them had been a brzezinski, his thoughts was that no, you raised challenger, no single challenge or should be allowed to emerge because then it would be trying to dominate the whole of your age and therefore challenge the american preeminence

. and i think the way that both russia and china seeing the region now and other countries perhaps too, is a bit different. they see themselves as different polls that can sort of lift up a strength in the middle. is that realistic? duchess? i had a very good conversation with the late mister bridges, skin in 2013 over dinner in washington during my last visit to, to, to the united states. i had this conversation with him on the use of a stomach extremism in religious extremism that the, that the, that the to the used and on all aspects of this global politics, as he saw it for us in this region, which is, which is already showing to be the most important region in the word, in terms of economic output, in terms of global significance of power projection and in all other aspects. it

corporate of environment between russia and china. and hopefully, hopefully, when also together with india, eventually will be the greatest factor of the global of global stability and security. so it is imperative upon this region specially these 2 leading countries, russia and china, talk to get good presents care c as a group outcome for his own country bridges. of course, that may not be seen as a good outcome for the united states. and that's why the united states is in distribution and was of chemist on. and we hope that the united states would see this as the in visibility into work today and approach it wisely rather than through negative competition. well, let's keep our fingers crossed for that mister president is always a pleasure talking to thank you very much for good. talking to fantastic interview

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