asian from a neighboring country and from suffering for such a long time. we had to impeding with america before that had when russia had mesh as well as with europe to, to come in and help us get some free itself. then the international community led by the united states and approved rather sanctioned by the united nations security council. and where even those countries who did not see eye to eye with the united states on many issues around the world like russia, like china, like iran, the all welcomed and supported the decision of the united states and its allies to come to off canister. and when did it change, when did you feel it? and, and this led to immediate success within a month and a half because i've got people walked in the strapping, and we've begun to look forward with tremendous hopes towards

a better future. and it did work. everybody helped tonight, this helped russia helped the mister wood helped many, many other countries around the world helped. we'd only shed on educating our people, boys and girls. we began to draft constitution that was very valuable and got approval of staff, can people into more critical solution acculturation? what drives a constitution with opportunities for construction where it was mandated that woman should be at least 27 percent of the of the members of africa, parliament and it worked kind of guide us on the most important thing of care. the son became the home for all africans from a calculus which i had in the clergy, the lifters, the rightists, women, are travel shoes, all at once again come to her, but for a very short period of time, but was not so sure. but the dream,

the dream as far as can people were concerned, continued very, very well in terms of economic progress in terms of education, in terms of massive, shorter social change towards betterment that walked. all right, in terms of specially and stuff, forget building of the african state re, buildings. i've got stated work very well off flooding, begun to fly all over the word and embassies return to ganeth. and life began to look very, very different. but when it failed was in the conduct of the us military and i guess the way they conducted the so called war on turkish or terrorist. and they told us that the st reason we're outside of capsule. but then they've begun to bomb afghan villages and holes

and get people hurt and, and killed, and homes destroyed. that is layer the trend towards the negative began. and that is where my differences with the united states began. and that's where in the year or to say in 2006, this difference with the united states became up. come now as i'm sure your vote agree with me, no complicated international problem has a simple solution. and in fact, there is never a choice between a good or even mediocre option. it's usually a choice between bad and worse. how do you see the best case and the worst case scenario for of ghana in the year or 2 from now? i don't have the worst case scenario for the canister. i have the best case scenario for off campus. i'm seeing some trends towards that. yes, we are at this moment to the very,

very difficult spot. there is immense violence of kennesaw there is. there is immense unger in our country, but i also see the afghans we can go up to the new reality in those who want to opt to stay in afghanistan will make it better. and the region or of the region specially russia, china, iran, and hopefully also very important. hopefully also paxton realize it recognizes the dangerous of continued instability of cancer. this is a great portion moment for afghan has time to take a turn towards betterment. and i'm sure it where your district and of course i must

or for you to india and other great neighbor off of kennesaw that that, that has recognized you mentioned penny actress. but you haven't mentioned one very important actor just yet. and it is that the taliban? correct me if i'm mistaken. but i think ever since it's immersion the midnight tonight is your views on what that movement represents and whether it's good or not for your country have changed. what do you think about them now? my views about they have never changed from the wrongs that were committed then in the wrong that were committed. now my views of them or not, of the ask out people, meaning that the all the afghan people i rose against them when they were in power. because i saw them violating the rights of south can people. because i saw them loving foreign influences of get a son,

individuals from the out of countries and, and, and official forces from pakistan. and disregarding the yourself, african people were the reasons on which i based my opposition. and as the systems like many other africans did. but when my government came, when the republican i give them a project, they were foreign, and many of them went to settle down in their homes and begun a peaceful life. then suddenly the united states and some of the local elements began to talk that had been homes and tied finishes and forced them to flee the country. it was, this is violence committed against the african people in the name of fighting the taliban. that led me to calling the taliban, our brothers because they belong to our country. they are our countrymen. well, they are your countrymen, but they have very region views on how other people in your country is supposed to

leave, especially girls and women. what do you think will happen to you, you know, half of the relation to the interest of these? it is these views of them, of how women should live in the country and education about girls and the rights of women. that i oppose then, that i continue to oppose. now, in that i'll be opposing into the future. but mister president, i'm sorry for interrupting you, but you're a such illustrious. you have such an illustrious biography. you. one of the wisest men, certainly in your country may be brought or you've seen a lot. so i want to get a candid answer from you. another diplomatic. get somebody who knows your country well. do you think they will graham the same amount of tolerance? they will not to they, they will not. but we will not allow them, that we will have the difference of opinion. the struggle

will be somewhere like me, seeking the best rides for our people, for our children, for girders, and that african nurse should have the best education i, scholars, to everywhere else. if the taliban continue to oppose that this will be confronted. but i want to just confirm dish and to be political. not military, do want to be political and not military. the must agree to that all they will be defeated. the gun people were rise against him. the gun people are given day when an opportunity to receive peace, when the african people call for peace. this means and paternity to co exist and to allow the country to progress if they don't allow that. and if they continue to, to, to seek their own domination of garrison the way they think of it that will give

rise to a nation uprising without a doubt. and i'll be one of those people, if it wasn't me. but let's say, you know, the parents of one of the school girls who died or rather killed tragically in maine, that terrific attacked by those and implying that the taliban did. and the telephone has a history of attacking women and girls. if it were them sitting in front of you and pondering whether they should send their other daughters to school, would you have the got to say them that my own daughters are going to school enough against them? they go to school right now. they go out and shop, they go to play, they go to school because we are attacked by doors, extremist elements, terrorists who don't want us educated. we must add to our resolve to send our school children to school or go to school. never give up on that. i would. i'm sure

millions of africans would give up on that and we would challenge and defeat the service forces with or without international communities helping us. but i'm sure you girls have a better security and then most people in afghanistan don't you think that makes a difference? it doesn't make a difference. they go to same school. there are there in the schools, in the city of cobbled. so and they go to the markets and the that, that physical security is, is more offer more of an appearance rather than the radish when it comes to the threats. i had security was, i was also talking many types. so so no security has to be mental investments in security. we have in our resolve to continue the progress of can son needs in the progress fundamentally lies in the afghan girls and women

being able to educate and go to work. and that is fundamental, right? that will be seeking that i am seeking and will proceed further. okay, well mister president, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned for me . i in the old days before brag said, because the u. k. was attached to you, they could do it. other countries do, which is to take all their debts and dump it into this giant shadow banking system that covers the world's largest trading block. and you could kind of buy some time there because the c b is printing and buying and monetizing debt by the trillion. christine the garden, literally just buying trillion control for the garbage debt. but now post practice,

they don't have that way to wash the debts into the greater you laundromat. and so that is going to for the 1st time post breaks it, debts are going to start to cause a lot of pain. i haven't been in my phone since i've done a lot of them are under the former isis fighters now boarding a philippine naval ship in the family. have been $900.00 just aren't abdulla still don't know,

watch waiting for them and i am not sure how to get a hold of me . ready ready the the me or i welcome back to the park. i'm going to south former president hammock because i was the person before the break. we were talking about the taliban and there is a bit of geopolitical joking going on in the world right now. as to who will strike

a deal with that movement and number of countries including russia. how, how direct talks. do you think those efforts could yield a lasting result? can the child be trusted to stay true to their word? it isn't the question of trust is the question all the up cation all efforts for peace in which they have an interest as well. look, eventually the taliban, even if we don't like many aspects of what they have done to, i've counted a son or what they think they are still the african people there are, there are people like we are, they have children, the families that lives cougar's, they have voice groups that have suffered like we have suffered the rest of the country. so the all people, and they understand that the need piece. therefore, the efforts that russia launched in 2018 november in the continued in 2019 with the

billing of those very significant interesting talks. i'm just the last march, the trial meeting that was held in in moscow with participation from most afghan size. the thought above the republic, the very significant effort. and how would asked through this interview, the trash had continued the 6 us ice whole heartedly. and surely we would have result. well, let me ask you specifically about russia, because russia still lists the taliban as a terrorist organization. and for the record, it's the world's deadliest group. i think almost 5000 deaths attributed to it in 2019 that's 3 times more than dash in the same year. do you think any law abiding country should be talking to terrorist or labeling any group as tara is given how politically charged that where they were, the, the, the tyler bond being listed as

a terrorist by the united nation is the cause of their action. of course, and we have everybody to try to talk to them if there is no alternative because there are no alternatives things when drunk, things went wrong and he began to re merge and part of the population went with them. the answer is not continuing to fight the answers to find the solution and bring the solution. and that is what russia has done and we appreciate it and we wanted to continued in fullest. so yes, talk to them. there are some p is no other alternative. one of the reasons the kremlin is pursuing those talks is because the calculation here is that the taliban is essentially the lesser of all, even while they're holding onto they can territory. they serve as a bulwark against other groups dash and other jihad as groups that may have regional expansion is plan going into central asia, perhaps further to russia. whereas the taliban for now and says that they have no

ambitions beyond your own country. strategically and tactically, do you think that's an accurate calculation on the part of the kremlin criminal, his calculation moscow's calculation to bring about security and stability, enough canis out of the fundamental to addressing the speech. once you have a piece of canister and stability of garrison and in government that governs the whole country, the threats that can be post dreshaun to the region automatically go away. i mentioned the school attack and made before and that was not an isolated incidents because incident because according to the un mission and have dentist and the number of attack, the casualties, the injury and the killed, all those numbers have significantly increased since the americans announced their decision to the trips out, how do you personally explain such

a sharp growth in violence where violence has been at the highest in the past few years, unfortunately and die. she was responsible for some of the most horrible attacks, especially against her. the most wonders and the most wonderful and people in the cities and die. she is an entirely foreign phenomena. the taliban. otto, it is our country to come from our villages and hopes, but the dice is entirely foreign, taught country entire environment. therefore, dice must be treated us as extremely violent to this group and it is upon all of us to fight against this particular organization dias, or the so called islamic state immersed in your country when the united states had

full control over again, aerospace and of its land mass, i know that in the past you called it an american failure, but putting diplomatic ambiguities, or niceties aside, was it truly a hapless failure or an atten intended outcome? that is a push, and we ask every day if this was the result of failure, of the u. s. policy, and i've got a son, whereas the unintended consequence that we're facing. but if it was not that, then the united states has to explain that to the rest of the world as to what happened and, oh, what this explanation will do for you or the rest of the world. what if an honest answer, an honest answer about the nasty and honest engagement of willingness with the rest of the world, will make it easier for us to work together and to find solutions? now, while the americans clearly one to disengage from canister,

there are other regional players who are looking to increase their influence. i want to ask specifically about turkey and it's ambitions to provide for the security for the airplane and possibly something on a broader scale. do you think that's a good idea for the i've got some people as well as for turkeys nato partners. again, a son is the homo 5 kids. and it is for us to provide and protect our home and our country. it should be the afghans doing this if it is for a temporary period where i've got a son needs a sort of service, turkey, or any other friend of, of get a son's work. but of course, in the long term, this is the responsibility of the afghan people and nor foreign force should be data of gather some protecting any place, but us already young men. but you know,

they're, they're saying in many languages, nothing is more permanent than temporary. don't be in the americans came to your country on their short term basis, but they stayed for decades. do thing if the turks come, they will leave as a green we, we don't store but that the trucks will not come in the large numbers that the service did or the americans did the choice or talking about the airport to uncovered about $600.00. so new people in the us also not determined just speculation. the principle here should be that afghans should be able to predict their country and to provide for security of are off of the and we have the capacity and we should do it. i want to ask specifically about pakistan because your own family history is very intimately connected to the country. at one point they provided refuge, but your father was assassinated as well as well. do you think pakistan's game at

this point of time? pakistan's game and gaston is aligned with the interests of people of your country . they have to, they have to ally that with the interest of all people in our country. and they have begun to speak that direction. but they must prove that of pakistan has been an ally of the west and near to from the time of the service from the cold war in the promotion of extremism, religious extremism, against the father. so richard and was at that time you are accounted as one of the political support in which i had been yes we were, we were fighting for independence from the former soviet union. so our independence struggle was one thing. but using our struggle for independence from the confusion

of the soviet union by park sun and the americans and others to promote extra msm was another thing. and it was done at our cost at the cost to the african peoples. we were in the country of course, and believe, and country, of course, but not an extremist country, or another fundamental not of a domain to this country. so we paid the price, we're still continuing to pay the price for pac sun. and this is our, our most important demand when it comes to relations with parks on that for pac sun, to be hoping to be friends with the garrison. they must give up the use of fixture msm as a tool of policy, that their doctor during the, the time of the soviet union. then surely the afghan people responded very positively that can, people are very grateful to the parks and the people for the home that they provided us will be refugees. but they have equally strong complaint and anger at the way the government of park sun used extremism. hurt of garrison and look where

we are. look at the suffering of african people. it is because of that. so is civilized relationship is the fundamental need of relations between of kennesaw puck son to improve for the improvement of our traditions. and finally, if i may, we are russians like to say that history doesn't repeat itself, but the rhymes, and to some extent, it applies to the old, big, new present case theses of eurasia, as the grand child born with the economic rise of china. and i would claim u. s. g, g, rebounding of russia. and garrison being in the middle, this region is, is gaining important. it is seen again as the very center of the new world order, theoretically that male for your people, lots of benefits. but practically, historically, it has brought a lot of new liability, which ones are more likely going forward?

well, if we'd the afghan people who grasped our immensely important strategic location well. and which has been for the last 300 years. we are in the middle of envision in which of garrison's neighbours, with the super powers of the day. therefore, those who are competing with the superpowers from far away difficult come into our territory. for that competition. the african people must handle this more accurately and capably. we must understand the value of the site that we are and the location that we are. and use that especially in promoting confidence and trust with our neighbors and the major powers in our region. and have been with us as allies for stupidity. one of the big brzezinski stops, was that no,

you're raising challenger. no single challenges should be allowed to emerge because then it would be trying to dominate the whole of your age and therefore challenge the american preeminence. but i think the way that both russia and china seeing the region now and other countries perhaps too, is a bit different. they see themselves as different polls that can sort of lift up a strength and the middle is that realistic? that is, i had a very good conversation with the late mister bridges, skin in 2013 over dinner in washington during my last visit to, to, to the united states. i had this conversation with him on the use of a stomach extremism in religious extremism that the, that the, that the to the used and on all aspects of this globe rude politics as he sight for us in this region. which is, which is already showing to be the most important region in the word,

in terms of economic output, in terms of global significance of power projection. and in all other aspects. it corporate environment between russia and china. and hopefully, hopefully, when also together with india, eventually would be dictated to factor of the global of global food stability and security. so it is imperative upon this region specially these 2 leading countries, russia and china, talk to get good versions, care c as a group outcome for his own country, be bridges, of course, that that may not be seen as a good outcome for the united states and that's why the united states is in this region and was of kind of sun. and we hope that the united states would see this as the visibility into work today and approach it wisely

rather than through negative competition. well, let's keep our fingers crossed for that mister president is always a pleasure talking to thank you very much for good. talking to us to interview good talking to you and thank you for watching. hopeless here again, next week on the world apart from me in the me ah, join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport. business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. me

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