the news i'm action returns you were getting undergrad, exposing the corruption of the rich and powerful coming up in the show. who is the aggressor after israel allegedly attack syria, iraq and lebanon, britain and the u. s. accused run of terrorism. we speak to ca, whistleblower jeffrey stirling, convicted of revealing time, time plot against iran, and ahead of a t u n. somebody's own food and it's called decades of action. we are losing one of our 5 a day to corporate interest when it comes to global food security. we speak to the woman who were president of a bill gates, finance, food program, and envoy for un secretary general. and so you get a hold of someone coming up and today's going underground. but 1st, while israel arguably continues to define international law, accused of war crimes, nature, nation media and birth. johnson's government is vowing

a response to iran for crimes. the islamic republic denies all this as x and they say drone whistleblower, daniel hale is sentenced 2 years in jail. the 1st major espionage act conviction in the us under president joe biden. joining me now from st. louis in missouri is a ca, whistleblower, convicted to revealing us steady tricks against iran, jeffrey sterling, author of unwanted spy. jeffrey, thanks so much for coming back on. i should just say before we get to daniel hale, the board johnson, it's his word against the president raising runs the word about what happened in the gulf of mine in the, in the persian gulf. i mean, how, how much should we trust the authorities when they talk about iran, given your experience a ca, dirty tricks against the country? i think you should question anything coming from a leader? i don't think anything has been done to de escalate any of the tensions in the

region. so therefore they are going to be, i guess you call it a flash point without knowing who is to blame or who actually perpetrated the action. but the west has done nothing, i believe to explain to me the question, in fact i've been, we've been actually escalating the pensions in the area and i think it shows a result of that. and with the new administration coming into iran, more hard line administration, i think there may be more instances like this, unfortunately, but it least detentions will increase. and i mean, when we read in the newspapers or watch on tv and they quote, anonymous sources or sources telling them, i mean, do you think that they're innumerable compliant journalist for the see a brief one thing about the ca, they are certainly protective of their image so they're going to be out there

within the media, i think as a checkpoint. and to be able to make sure that if anything is spoken about that it's done in a more positive light, whether they are actually taking the being at the forefront. they're making statements, i'm not sure about that, but especially with the major media outlets. the stance is going to be position more favorable to those in power if you will. yeah, i mean, these anonymous officials always give information to other programs. they replied to request for information before, but never seem to give me any secrets or anonymous intel i, i don't know why that could be how late official leaks are. okay. but least that are not smiled upon by administration.

are essentially talking about the same thing. why is that it's information reaches the press in official capacity so many times regarding iran, they're bringing the obama administration about the programs against iran. if they're released by a government official leased by a government official, then those kind of automate the government look good lease showing be abuse of power of government or the wrong doing by government. those certainly embarrassed in a government and they are going to retaliate to try and stop that. governments like information released as they like to release. not as the citizens they are supposed to re represent. want to hear it. yeah, i mean, i'm sure, i mean, many people may just think that's, that's obvious. now, of course,

daniel hale told us about how men, women, and children were being killed and blown to bits by drones. and how the us authorities relying effectively about him. what was your reaction to him being prosecuted on the espionage act and being sent to prison for years? again, my heart folk, again a mark in the notch of the weapon that is the jack as it's being used or misused by our justice system here. i guess i can say 45 months in prison. it's not that much time. my last 40 to any day, any moment in prison is much too long for telling the truth. and my heart goes out to daniel. i know exactly what he's going through. standing there in front of the judge, not knowing, knowing that your faith is in this person's hands and not knowing really what this person is going to say, or what, how they are going to condemn you. is

a very harrowing experience and it's hard to really grasp, especially when you're standing there before a judge in prison or doing the right thing. it's hard to grasp the reality of that or have it makes sense for you is a very sad day for me when i base that situation. and i know the sad day for daniel, at least i had the benefit that i'm i was in my street clothes before that judge day was the cause he's been confined. he was in the prison jumpsuit, which just adds to the distress of the entire experience. as far as the legal context. his lawyers cited your case and that of john curiosity, who formerly also of the ca. how do you think that affected the sentencing was as

you have you, in fact created the precedent for sentencing to jail for telling the truth? yeah. it's only been known as a bismark, and i don't want any was i know the points counsel during the tradition proceeding cited my case as a benchmark for the type of engines that he could face if he was guilty of violating the espionage act. i trial my persecution was a travesty of justice. and, but i also think that i was accused daniel hale essentially be in a traitor to the united states and of all the meanings that will go along with that, trying to essentially destroy the country. yes. after

my expense, after a trial, the judge gave me 42 months at some. if this is so serious, avaya lation of the why would a judge get a 42 month daniel, case 45 months? i think they see the falling of how the f b allows act is being used to retaliate against individuals who release information that is embarrassing to the us. i will say i receive 40 to daniel received 45. maybe they're starting to go back up the prosecutions in both instances, certainly want to many more years. i believe they want 9 years for daniel and for me i was facing 10 years for each of the 9 counts that i was charged. people can look up the case as are gods, dirty tricks and nuclear weapons parts to iran. julianna's on, did you say, i mean he's facing 175 years and it was a british judge, a magistrate who said,

it's just not safe. your judice, your prison system for him to be there. how just reminders, how you are treated and what you fear about the treatment for daniel hale because you filed 3 complaints when you were in prison. house have is daniel hale right now in the us prison. he's probably still in the alexandria jail, pretty much and terry confinement the prison system in general, i merely placed the warehouse bodies and medical treatment is laughable mental health treatment, which i know will be important and proof for daniel in prison because he's, he's having health problems he suffers mental problems now what i was in prison and struggling mentally because this is really horrible. mental experience to go through as well as i was reaching out for help. i realize that the so called health

professionals are pretty dismissive of anything. and at one point i would threaten with being put into solitary if i didn't just come around just step out of it. and if you want to put me in solitary to worse than my mental condition, because i'm actually trying to reach out to you for help with my mental condition and but that's what daniel was going to face. they will put window dressing on it as they did during the proceedings that there will be adequate mental health care. but that is absolutely not the reality of prisons in the country. no more. as i said, no more than warehouses, individuals and just numbers. and you are treated as pretty much non 1st. i mean, even if you will not be, if your lawyers hadn't succeeded in persuading the authorities about your hot condition, do you think you'd have died of a heart related condition without that small victory you had when you were in jail?

i think that's very much the case that i would have. i was actually terrified that i would die in that desolate place because the health care that i deserve the health care that i, that by law i was entitled to being denied to me. and it took us senator to inquire at the prison for me to receive health care. a lot of that most about was face to face to all of my supporters arising the prison by rising politicians and especially my, my strong, lovely wife. now how many people in us prison have that sort of support? when i was there, it was routine for someone to die. there was, it was a routine for someone did i have a heart attack? and usually if you have a heart issues in the prison, i was that the answer that i received on several occasions was drink more water. i've never known a heart condition to be alleviated with

a prescription of water. but that's the type of health care that their healthcare and mental health care, danny will receive imprison. well, as julian assigns goes on, being tortured according to the un. has daniel, as david contrast, the former head of the ca leaked secrets for his book with love over he didn't go to jail. do you think that the reason we're not getting more whistleblowers recently from the intelligent service? i mean, just look what's happening in afghanistan. disaster that's happening there. we don't seem to get any until leaks which was is because people like you, daniel hale, julian, his eyes curio qu, john curio. the jailing working the deterring. truth. tell us why they're using the espionage act as a hammer. as the biggest threat that they can come up with use against, with a lower, anyone interested in standing up against government, wrong doing the message,

they send you to send the same message. this is what you will face. not many actually go to trial and put the government to task on that because they use that as such a threat. and maybe that can be one of the reasons why i think there will always be whistleblowers. but i think especially in this country, we also see different sort of justice system, especially when it comes to national security. daniel have received 45 months in prison and the government really didn't have to show any damage on the espionage. they just have to claim that he revealed national defense information. well, be january 6 terrorists that stormed the capital are not considered a threat to national security and they are only being charged. those individuals who have been charged with misdemeanors. the 1st individual received a month in prison for storming their capital and only be in charge of the

misdemeanor. i. the differences here are astounding and quite disgusting with regard to justice benefits just as soon as country which is not justice at all . jeffrey selling, thank you. thank you very much for having me. after the break, we all condemning global farmers to poverty and the nutrition is corporate piracy reign supreme. we speak to the woman who doubles his bill, gates, ally, and un secretary general envoy ahead of new york un food system from it's all the more coming up about 2 of going underground. ah, ah, i think it's part of mental health revolution. we increasingly freeze political claims the language of mental health became more common. so if you disagree with something i said on this program, you know,

just say i just agree with you. i think you're wrong because of the following problems in your evidence or logic. you see your micro greg, you say you triggered me? you said you hard me again, some psychological way, just news or psychological terms. and i guess an enormous problem for politics because it's almost impossible to have a discourse on that terrain. the the the, the welcome back, new york un food system. some, it starts in a matter of weeks in a drive to transform the world's food systems for the next decade. and the global hunger is set to rise by a 3rd this year with millions more on the brink of famine,

due to climate change. what can we expect to join me in africa, guardian, around the un secretary general, special envoy to the summit, and president of the alliance for green revolution in africa, dr. agnes calabasas. thank you so much, agnes for coming on. will tell me about what some it will mean for africa in the world. so thank you so much for having me. the summit rico grenades is that we have a number of places number one that we have behind on. it's the just, the sustainable development goes. number 2, the sum to cover knives is that all food system that is supposed to deliver gift hunger against deliver, for bitter nutrition, actually contributing to climate change and contribute to the most fucked by diversity loss. so it's not just about food, it's also about these other issues. so really what to expect is we need to compromise that. we need to come to on foot and equity for people. we also need to come to an environmental issues. the top would be to, to climate since the fact that systems contribute one 3rd of emissions to climate

says is something we cannot over look at this point in time. i mean, obviously, as figure a country increase food bank usage, the united states has upwards of 40000000 who cannot eat tonight without food stamps. why don't they just in africa do what you celebrated when you administer around the policies you enabled cause made that put to quadruple rice, to double. why don't you just do that? i mean what, why do you need to make some it at all? so it's, so that's a very good question. so number one, different countries need to put the systems in place just like we didn't run that we need to work on putting systems in place that allow for most folks if improve said to be able to double the use of boxes or the input systems. but you know, for example, in the list and what we know days we take for granted. and what we want is to ensure that those things that the rest of the was noted for granted to become

available to africa from us so that they can be productive. and those things include inputs, but they also include markets and functional markets include access to those markets, include access to find those and which is the middle for african countries. so those are managers that are holding the continent book. but now we also need to talk about climate change and what climate change is doing. pull this from us that we're beginning to come out of poverty because of use of agriculture. and because of good use the cut to do 10 more because out of every 3 months to fail, does it have a lot of clements? yeah, i'm not sure. i mean, obviously under nourishment though, joining those years when you, a minister went out from 1300000 to 4400000. doesn't that show that actually crop yield? as a metric is not a particularly good one when it comes to food systems. i mean, you and your, i mean you, you failed at the alliance for a green revolution in africa. you missed the target by 70 percent. and to stand in,

in the countries, the focus group countries in africa. so 1st thing 1st, both linda and increasing numbers of hungry people. wonder, i don't know where you get to your debt. i don't know what you're reading, but if i go with the global index report, which was produced around 201220131 that it used to show levels by 50 percent. and what wonder did was to use a foot systems approach, where a number of ministries, a number of success come together to look at why a country like whether the tub submitted to produce food, had to should, number one to should. of course there isn't that many, and i want to go to these, but i'm going to what we did, what we did was to show the district of come to get up and walk to yes, to show that form of concrete. chris yields, but also worked on funding before before months. and this people, the term i noticed on the type of solution, but we need to get to them. sometimes the solutions are not a cultural,

sometimes the social will social protection and actually helping them where they were. so, different cultures have different, tentative, contra, hustling malays. it's it that it has to have solution to be able to do the longest . i was, i mean the figures come via villa, campus, hiena, you know, the different groups range against the summit. what do you make of the hundreds of small scale food producers, researches, indigenous peoples organizations? the one to complete boycott this summer in a couple of weeks time. that's an interesting question. first of all, let me go go nice that we have made huge efforts on the secretary general's request to make this a people's submit. we've reached out to the people in business. people have had 280 loops, including about 5000000 people from across 7 regions of the world. we reached out to producers. we've really shuttle fishers. we should also,

for people we want to show the private sector, including up to simon hadn't been said last year at the flood. if i did not know this retail to the confirmation, but every possible and i have a stick in the food system and we need to companies, but we need to appreciate that your decisions, it fucked off with the system. we've tried to include everybody. we've tried to not to worry about this, but it's good. we need everybody nice what they are doing and we need people to be held accountable for their do. so drugs have the compositions including topical positions with each other. the look of the both of the positions that we must have to fix off with the student to some of those group say that day. your organizational, your president off is basically a front organization that is a deliberately trying to stop small holding small farmers in favor of massive

chemical companies. obviously, only 2 companies, one center bare and, and dupont control most of the world's food bill gates, obviously who finance is you? is the largest private farm landowner in the united states. what would you say of as a sions? so this a private sector and big corporations have been in this business or will always been, this is mr. have been, they've been if i was blood for a girl, was born. so let's put those things in context. and bill gets fun so much more than a precocious 50 was 1st floor, the pharmacy fun of vaccines, the funds and all those things, many of which we appreciate where we live from a perspective, we'll get books that have access the facilities. now, putting things in perspective, again, my job is to ensure that african florida from us have and will put into produce in

the with that the 7 out of 10 people that live in a culture can actually have productive agriculture systems can, how we yield. i'm not looking for 10 metric tons per hicks, like we've seen the euro, or even in the us, i'm looking for only 5 because with 5 metric tons of reconfirm us can have a livelihood that low 6 kids to school that most send their kids to a clinic that give them a neighborhood, i do want africa from us to be basket kisses. so for me here, i have the ability to have the understanding of what the coach 6 transforms the sat in the house. why is it then? does, i mean, why is it, i mean, obviously the greatest food systems success of recent years is when communist china, celebrating a 100 years of communism in china. i went to eritrea. that's in africa. we have total food security. there was no private sector involvement whatsoever. we know about the success in cuba, se since the revolution in food security. why is it countries that don't involve

the private sector, achieve 100 percent food security and all the countries you are involved in, in the grid lines for green revolution in africa. miss, they yield targets and the 2 massive profit and shareholder value for private multinational corporations. so 1st of all, that's a discussion of the but let's go with what you think. anyway. number one, the coach of you called out how the systems will. how can i vision the to low communities to be able to box if the input to the top talking about the bottom line there every, for my based on the system the put in place ever from this? no, not all countries can be your typical queue, but we'll cover political system that is similar to that different countries of to the different posts in those different pub, this private sector, and strengthen the capability, present sick time, discussing africa. we're talking about these and we're talking about local

assemblies, strengthen the capacity of local, sent me, which is what my institution does. look like sidney's, your $100000.00 type of business, your $500.00 type of business, stinson them on. there could be ability to be able to get some of access to inputs choices of inputs for that because chris value is what we do. i don't care what my son to that's i don't care what the business oh, to read. that's if it's send me enough, i can function and for some of the fun month, that's what i'm paid to do. that's what my job is about. and you know what? if someone knows that you, by the way or even bill gets someone else, provides the opportunity for me to be able to deliver that offer comfortable who to farmers or differently to, to do it with i should say not just bill gains, rockefeller who made the money from oil and ford foundation, obviously who made cars. we had the international panel for climate change. we also clean and it's also be clear this people don't just support africa. i mean look for

a phone dish of dollars. yes, but they supported america, supported europe, the support that everybody does. everybody has grown on their book. why does it become a question when to them pushing for africa about there's a huge debate about the indirect subsidy to rockefeller and ford foundation. and that's why there's a call for reparation. that instead of $1000000000.00 grid that your president of, and even the u. n. s food systems, i mean, there should be reparations paid to africa. what was stolen from africa. and then those african countries should have food sovereignty over their own countries like you, gander, has been involved in became a faster, has been involved in different countries in africa, not nigeria, notably, have rejected food painting the buying a painting, seeds and so on. so that farmers feed is the way forward rather than big multinational creative seats. but again, please support it thinks what is happening. what happened from a career perspective has nothing to do with this. some of the work that we do with

the sort of the legs of the rockefeller foundation of the liquid bill gates were coordinated that we know they put. so of course, i don't want to put on that route, but let's focus on what we can do to support from us and what then. when, when the money comes and, and really they fission is to support african communities to learn. oh, even doped some of the technologies that that we can adopt to be able to move forward. again, i'm not said no, my job is to show that here, but i mean obviously there's a negative in the end. but i mean, we have the international panel for climate change, lead author on this program just the other day. and he said, we don't really know what war contribute to climate change. the pentagon, the largest emitter, arguably, why would you choose to work with an alleged war? criminal, tony blair, to write an article,

building food security during the pandemic. how do you think that scene in the global south to the man who is alleged to be a war criminal and you together a telling the world about food? so i don't know the side of the team i will criminal. i know the set of 20 bria that talks about development. i go with the side, they know you go with the safety, you know, we're going to show you. but if it's over, then the war that displays kill it. because mission michael magician with she has nothing to do with a rock cool micro position with him has everything to do with how moving development fought for can work under the puts that he's his women he's discussing with us or development forward. i choose to focus on what we can do from a development perspective on what he hopes that appreciate and i'm sure he has done a lot from a development perspective. was with us special envoy. thank you. and that's over

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