to be here, they filter when reading or context the delta gains only take the very best of the best buy i i my father contacted many lawyers in both canada and in the united states and no one was prepared to do this. they were very, very brave to go up against the government in this way that night. parents thought of them as heroes. and, and so today, david orla coach standing as a member of parliament, didn't really help us that much. the powers that be in auto were more concerned about not rocking the boat with their american colleagues and they were about

advancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament. a lot of this our physical therapy's. ringback going on in psychiatry, the time no one had ever used a combination of very powerful drug. electrical involves therapy, extended sleep, century isolation and all the other methods that he was using. there had been there never anything like this where i grew up. this is my street. you see that tree there? i remember when i could put my fingers around it. we planted the trees. trees planted in 1945. quite a long time ago. harvey decided to write a book about his father's experiences. as he researched the legal case,

he began to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening. male was arriving in our house opened. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. then about 2 weeks after that, i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road from behind me comes a car with no headlights on slams into me, pushes me off the road and disappears. the something that i really haven't spoken about and nothing like this of course ever happened again, but it does interesting questions with me. sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009 going to film

a video. it's going to be the doctor and my grandmother locked in. this dance that never ends. i think of it this as like like a purgatory state or just like you know, never got, never got resolved it. never. she never got better. we thought this was over. we thought this was a bad history for the 1950s in early 1960. it never crossed my mind that the united states would be using method that cameran used to destroy me think i know the wall fairly well traveled to it, but i really didn't know about the twin towers. i didn't know that the twin tile

even existed. yeah, i will never forget that i was, he's falling server for a gentleman, n g o r, one of the workers. very nice that and i was saying was in my office which is in to me. and suddenly the phone started to ring a lot. the, the time we knew little about all and how that group was able to evolve to a point where you learn later that that 19 thugs,

with box cutters was able to bring the united states to our knees. immediately mark was ordered to florida to help draw the invasion of afghanistan, the i 2001. i made the decision life changing decision. it turned out to be to go to afghanistan. and to do that with my wife and my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike a gun. this dawn on october, the 7th, 2001. the war on terror began to panic. it's pure panic. this

isn't just the united states, bombing, sorties, and campaigns. this is now soldiers on the ground, armed people in the streets, killing people, arresting people, torching people, and on the target. muslim was captured and detained in background base for in february 2003, he was taken to gwen ton of bay detention camp. accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk for the next 20 human, he was held in solitary confinement. ah ah, i mean after 911,

when i received the phone call and it was the director of our security move. and she explained to me that the u. s. government asked him to read me mohammed with a key to being the leader of an l. k. e to south in both germany and one trail. the in the case of president bush signed the secret direct giving the or 30 to kill or capture terrorist anywhere in the years that followed the food doesn't crisscross the globe, making thousands of life faced with an onslaught of prisoners. the bush administration drew up a memorandum. no, not the torture memos. it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in

the war on terror and cited the hooded men's $978.00 judgment. the within months to cia wrote out these methods with england. and all its black sites they called them enhanced interrogation techniques to see a turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with all cader who had no experience with interrogations. and had no experience in the middle east. gemini, went into a cubicle, sat down, or he sat down on the typewriter, and together we rode out the list as techniques that we thought had worked well in the series school. well,

i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the captured detainees. did not, did not apply to the capture detainees by the attorneys at the cia. and so i don't think i thought about geneva convention may became what i often refer to as a modern day equivalent, a snake oil salesman. these 2 psychologist were awarded $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. ah, you don't to cameron? i'm sensory deprivation overland. along with the cold, we'll see a program to create a mix of torture techniques. social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence on something else. it has not been controlled.

we need to protect society from those that can bring it once more into kills. the strong must protect others from these people are on the order. the american psychological association is world's largest organization of psychologists, and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. ah, secretly b a p a and make it high colleges working in the torture program to override that ethical code of you know home if the military and ca required it a program of abusive interrogations. the program of torture to ca was designed by

psychologists and at guantanamo was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques in the program of the ca abuse. and that's when i could basically stand no, oh and so suddenly i went from just being a psychologist in my office to becoming the face of opposition to the a p. s. position war is a strategic business. our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out, and it has consequences for a year. i was in conversations with the department of

defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrist in psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams dan, i learned that they were not just advising that they were involved by. i was stunned in the room in it. take it all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program. ah, the ah

. the other stuff. and then need to talk to someone will actually be able to pay more than that for job nutrition position if we need to check on it for me,

which mobile phone bill and just about what it was for for the day join me. but it was the key i got to get to the can put in the office me quite a bit as long food one need to tell you the boucher that he handed western union because that quote should join me every thursday on the alex salmon show and i'll be speaking to guess on the world, the politics sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the the me in the punishment wing known as india block,

mohammedan was isolated from all other detainees. who call it the freed. because it's very cool. i was the was level so i mean what level? no food, nothing. total isolation like a logical and physical torture. and i was in a 27 american hash because of my activism that i was placid in germany, somewhere to do harm to the ultimate either because that little crime or we're going to put you in the torture program. and i said go for it very much. i was really stupid here. the bag that

i american said. the logic says that without to they wouldn't be $91170.00 mohammedan, was the most prisoner in the role of psychologist in the torture program. astounds me. i saw that we're heading down a road that i knew was going to be a disaster in 2002 mark put his neck on the line. one tissue period. c, i a were using torture. i felt like there was an apple and you can see these boulders coming down and take away your arms and you try to stop. i could not stop what was happened, the blood thirsty torture people who is just great for any one person to stop the

peer interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond geneva convention, stress positions, sleep management, dietary manipulation. all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture, nor any other form of caution. that's the geneva convention. these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those . my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized by the department, was checked by the lawyers in your shop, in the department, in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with the jan . absolutely. and you tell us that donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammedan retreated 3 of the $911.00 hijackers, he personally authorized a 90 day special project status on them how to do with her and as consequences. 7, the order to abuse prisoners was unlawful. but to build up to that unlawful order,

they need a justification. and so what they did was they sent a colonel to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said, going to hannibal be, is america's battle lab. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of nuremberg it evoked memories of what the nazis were doing. experiments. the things they started with was live the professional regime. and then in math guy brought to diesel. it was very dog except for strobe lights. and then he stops playing the music lid, the body too small all day long. you know, you,

i cannot explain to one someone is doing shackle chuckles on the floor and a group of people, 2 women and a guy come and talk to them on to me. the know that war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was shocked. and i think we had been deeply frightened, and i think that fear was exploited, certainly in the years after that and continued to be exploited. the understanding is you've been more nino of the tv than any other fashion. i, you know, i've met a number of them. you know, so many probably more than anyone else. can you tell me about that?

i can't specifically talk about what i've my meetings with them or what i've learned about these i've met a colleague shake mohammad holly been natasha the ramsey, been she a mar belushi and her solid. these men were subjected to all these tactics. and there is absolutely no evidence, absolutely not a shred of evidence that, that these tactics used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country the we created on to in iraq or torture

rock more what we call the isis today, danish ice or the same, it's just a manifestation of torture. with these are programs that we created and were living with those results. you said that you think this is watkins? this is absolutely work. crimes. we knew there were crimes for this new since she is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership into the ride and other protest. this battle with the a p a is coming to an end here today to reset our moral compass. we had been trying continues to prevent psychologists from being part of

national security interrogations. that exposed me acknowledgement. we apologize for it and we changed the south to being held. the 3 of them was released without choice. totally got on a plane and come back home to england. what would happen? would i end up in flood tunnel? would these, would these painful with this playful period ever have happened? would i be the person i have today? i called on to those questions. but i do often say to myself, why didn't i just get on a plane and go back or let me know how to do confessions were found to be the result of taught. he was released without charge after

14 years in guantanamo or i was no match for them. they destroyed and they won. they are broken. and there is nothing i could say to save my face or to say, or i won. no, i did not. because those people out of professional doctors who studied just for this purpose, to destroy the human spirit and make dependent be then and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to cautious them in august 2017. the 2 psychologists who created the cia torture program were about to be put on trial. we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do. we knew it was lawful, we knew it was legal. we would have been vetted and approved. do you think it's possible, as a psychologist,

that an individual who was subjected to them suffered long term visible or psychological rejection? do you think it's possible that sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering? objection? the c, i a settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. no liability was admitted. world law and government will intensify the problem of the growing and then them the 2 of the common man. what we must is to see a world spread neither friendly or unfriendly orlando's world in which we must at last take fundamental responsibility for ourselves. congress to ensure that in the fighting isis. and we continue to

have all necessary power to detain terrace wherever we chase them. down wherever we find them and in many cases for them it will now be wanted, imo, de leon program has been known that one on the move a which could see it treble in population. what makes this issue important? guantanamo has become the calling cry. torture is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great. again. the united states right now is one terrorist attacks away from re instituting torture. since the 1950s,

we know these techniques have been used in afghanistan, argentina, australia, sonia, present, british guy on the british camry, canada, shinning, kiva. great britain. what, a 100 iran, iraq. israel, if you a morocco. northern park is done the philippine pose. romania, thailand, turkey, euro. why and i the

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ah, i think is part of mental health revolution. we increasingly freeze political claims inside the language of mental health became more common. so if you disagree with something i said on this program, just say i just agree with you. i think you're wrong because of the following problems in your adventure logic. your see your micro grass mate, you see you triggered me. you said you hard me again some psychological way because those are psychological terms. and i've got to numerous problems for politics because it's almost impossible to have a discourse on that terrain. the the the

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