she is a huge cash register that is ran by people who don't care about people's lives being lost. join me every 1st day on the alex summon show, and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport. business. i'm show business. i'll see you then me the lawyers acting on behalf of the one the 1st legal battle regarding the future. extradition of julianna science united states actually joined us with this reaction in the taliban. now these control canister border, but you back as soon as you get done. well, this break, russia has to become even more involved in the area. are discussed with r and china has charged a canadian citizen was fine, and sentenced him to

a love in a year. but is this just retaliation for the read and prosecution of wally cfo, main ones out. we're going to give you the details and whether it prefer swap would be a future possibility. and here in america, one state has decided to boost his graduation numbers by making a basic skills like a reading, writing and a simple math. no longer requirement. this is parents across the country are getting their local school board meeting all in protest of the mass mandate being but on the students. now, despite the large numbers and higher motion, the school boards are not relenting. we're going to give you the 360 view and as does it seem like we are living in a time where parents rights are being taken away. i politicians power grabs. i'm going to use and you're watching a news use huge right here in our to america. let's get started. ah,

what did being terms the most winchell infringement on freedom of the press? in the last decade by supporters of joy and assigned the united states has won the 1st appeal battle and the fight to extradite the imprison founder of wiki lease. now today in the british royal courts of justice, the 5th year old assad appeared video link from my couch in the bel marsh prison, where been held at the last 2 years. the us government is arguing a sondra capable of resisting suicide is pursuing a song for espionage is arguing. he conspired with chelsea men and then an army intelligence officer to hack into government systems to still 3 quarters of a 1000000 secrets in classified cables, which is organized organization wiki leaks dumped on redacted online. now, as you can expect, assigned was disappointed with the ruling and a full appeal will now be heard on october 27th and 28th. so to gauge the reaction,

we bring in action times the hosting going underground here on the rti network, always a delight to talk to apps on today was not good news. so for those that are advocating for the full release of joyous orange, you know, but are you really surprised by the judge's ruling considering the extent of all of those have power right now the kids are going to go to make sure they're deep and dark secrets stay hidden to side day here in london, i should just correct one thing actually when he released those cables. chelsea manning there were redactions and in fact the guardian newspaper was involved in one of the writers on giving a password out for the 100 active cables. but it's not only assign david, judy, it's on you supported is arguably a momentous day for all journalists, all around the world. this was a stall in error show trial. that's what it looked like. because media, i mean, your 2nd story is f canister. we would think that in course they'd be discussing

how we were able to understand why say that taliban could now take over afghanistan from the removal of biden's truth from the afghan war logs. no, they were discussing the wall of the merits of journalism and a free speech they were discussing. it seemed the weapon izing of junior sanchez, young children, and his partner was a battle of psychiatrists. and whether one must have been in psychiatrists accurately represented of the torture as it is described by you in special rep. what your meals meltzer with it properly accounted for the faith of julian sanchez, mental health. because he didn't mention at the right time. the fact that he had children, that was the kind of argument that joe biden in his justice department was making him a loves in court. today, i was the 1st journalists into the stars, the headquarters in berlin. as above the wall was schooling. 260 people died. was it the strategy h q the they say from because of this because i mean what julius on is talking

about is 10 millions of people killed, wounded or displaced. and we're discussing the weaponized with his children. i am. i know you're saying we shouldn't be surprised that the military industrial complex does this. but to, to take it out on his children to somehow make his children feel guilty for the incarceration in the maybe 175 year prison sentence. he might get an espionage caught in virginia. that's quite something. well and, and i don't say that we shouldn't be surprised. i don't think we should. that doesn't mean that we can't be disappointed. and i think that's a lot of people who've been following this are as they watch it. but guess what, what the us presented with the us, the justice department presented. it works because they won the 1st step, which gives you an idea of going how this trial might be. but let's just talk about it. i'm one of those to try to figure out, okay, could there be any good in any situation? could a trial actually be a good thing if full transparency is allowed and it's on just legal team are actually able to use the spotlight to showcase why so many want to keep julian

locked away? well, but every time educating defense team tries to bring up substantial elements the relate to your transparency hug. you meant that the judge says, no, that's not really the point. let's not forget the vanessa rates are this. the magistrate has already ruled that the terms of the u. s. espionage act were less apply here. and that boris johnson has a consultative document trying to bring us up to scratch like cousins across the pond to the we do. we have a beefed up official secrets act, which would make new public interest. i mean, there's no public interest, but there were some margin, some light in the darkness that a journalist could say, look, i've just got to link it saved lives. you've got to give me some, you're gonna give me some ability to be a journalist even that may be taken away. and so yes, she's already ruled the espionage court. all of that is right. the only thing

stopping him from being sent to a call where, which always convicts is, is psychiatric reports. but even that apparently now is being attacked even though it's one of the must have been into the psychiatrist in the world's evidence. well, and that's, you know, very concerning. as you said, the focus was on that today and not actually the meat of what join assigned is being held for, you know, i do said you said that not many people are getting aware of it. i did notice on today there was a lot of commotion. there is a lot of demonstrations outside the courtroom. do you feel those times go is going by more people, especially around the world, are becoming aware of the situation. you did see a demonstration in france part for parliament today. people holding upside. i feel like the more people are becoming aware of it. and the fact is that you're seeing people from britain actually try to cover for the politicians in the u. s. which makes me wonder, are they worried, they might actually have some dirt also when they released on them, they're just going to go on and cover everything right now. could that also be helping is we continue this story to not have any sort of closure at this point?

well demonstrated, say the court opinion, public opinion is what matters after julia sanchez's part and broke down in tears. and a question, one of the wiki leeks is spokespeople said we've got to now take it to the streets, a massive demonstration before the october 28th october 29th, the saturday before it. and in the global south, you know, they understand that it's interesting. here with the media, i'm not sure over there. should presumably me on the from pages of the part of the publications over there, but the new child motion post didn't seem to be that bothered about the fact that the president maybe being struck here, which would de prison, that journalist for a long jail periods. so the meeting, i mean it's kind of funny mid at the end of the news almost here in, in britain and the demonstration. and so i suppose is all, all that one has really let me just said and actually looking at what was out there

. i actually think if you move to the try to hear you have a better chance because it's directly involves the corruption of american politicians is what was exposed. i do think you would actually have a bigger demonstration here in america possibly than what's going over. and you can definitely applaud those on the other side of the pond. i kind of wish we could have the trial here because i do think that you would see some of the main demonstrations we've seen in the past and corruptions been exposed. happen in this case. one could only have real quick before i let you go, i just gotta ask you, you know, enjoying assigned for a long time. you've heard today's test reading and i've been even even been able to see some of the video tape. how do you feel like his mental status is obviously he's a little depressed, but how do you feel like he's holding up andrew and said he was almost unrecognizable on the tape and just very quick, it's very important to say that we get leaks revealed secrets of russia about china, about countries around the world, about iran. it's interesting that it's only britain in the united states that at the forefront of persecuting this tortured, most famous john, was to be sure in the world or action. obviously,

you will continue to stay on this case and i thank you for joining us. and i still have hope that in the darkness, darkness does not die. our democracy does not die in documents. i hope that actually gets a chance to actually shed some light on the work that he's done. thank you for joining us. how did a continued advantage itala bon, growing since you're a sped up the withdrawal of its ground forces from afghanistan? now, according to the russian defense minister, the telephone fighters are now in complete control of that's gonna stance borders from use pakistan and tajikistan. this could create a potential problem for russia, despite the telephone and promising not to make any attempts to cross the border and attack neighboring territories. now, of course, you can trust words from a terrorist organization, right? well, let's ask this to former naval intelligence hub, sir john story. john, thanks for joining me on this. have been to be your study. okay. so how confident are you at the top? so you know, use your going into use pakistan and touch it gets done. as it has stated, do you,

do you actually put trust in their words? no, i don't put trust in their words, but i do to put trust in certain objective reality that even the taliban must confront. first of all, the taliban must consolidate their rule in afghanistan, which they really never completely did prior to the us invasion in 2001. where were ab ganeth stand is multiple ethnic cities, multiple language and multiple tribes. and those are the real divisions and that they determine the real pecking order and a half can society. so taking all about ghana stand is going to be a feat and that's going to be a challenge. i think ultimately we may talk about that later in the segment, but here's why they don't per opposing immediate threats and so on. and his best on is 1st of all, those 2 countries are ethnically distinct from the largely passed on taliban majority, different language, different culture. they don't have

a lot of the family connections, the clan, or the tribal connect to the sinews of that type of society that they do in afghanistan. so they, they are outsiders, which meant which, which makes it very, very different. largely also you have the ever present threat of a rush, an actual or was that military intervention to keep them out. so time space. the fact that they have their hands for garrison and the fact that they are not the they're ethnically linguistically, and culturally different from those former soviet republics means that moving into that area is going to be one heck of a challenge and is not for tomorrow morning. with regard to the element, well, and that's for that, you know, i do have to ask you because of your knowledge of the area. do you think russia might actually be better equipped, actually present more of a fear factor to the taller bond to stay within their own boundaries of what they're trying to negotiate within the region. then other countries like the u. s. thought that they could try to pull off over the last 20 years while the u. s. is

trying to engage in nation building. i mean the u. s. rem, militarily, we were entirely successful with every engagement with the taliban and insurgent force and happiness. and keep in mind that this is a political defeat, not a military one for the u. s. i was a, it was a loss of will and lack of thinking. we didn't have a, we ended up fighting a 20 year war and not a 20 your so much as a one year war 20 times over. so there's a real distinction there. obviously, the russians have a lot of experience in afghan and like the united states, it was not a pleasant part of russian history to the russians want to, will they be able to have the basing and toes you just on pakistan to be able to build the type of build up the type of infrastructure necessary for an incursion against and remember in the cold war when the russians were last there. so she started beckers and were part of the soviet union, not really any more. so the question is, the big question, the biggest question of all is to the russians really want to repeat this? is this going to be something that's popular for the, for put in government to do?

is there a win for russia in there? is there an in the game and that was the part that the u. s. policy makers didn't figure out. i don't think that it makes a lot of sense for russia to go in there, especially since they are just on and it was that was done as bulwarks against taliban in person, into russian territory. and further, even with taliban to penetrate and go through touching it's done with that in the russia proper. that part of russia is not muslims and is even more ethnically different from that ghana stand. so looking at the risk reward calculus, i don't see that it's in russian interest to do that. well, i think that's a very, obviously, a big part that people need to play on this and real quick before i let you go. are you shocked and surprised at how quickly the taliban been able to see over the control of afghanistan? once the american troops had left for you, expecting it to be literally within not, not months, as they said it would be but weeks now i,

this is about what i expected. first of all, with the us withdrawal came the end of the america's ability to collect intelligence for targeting of taliban of taliban forces. moreover, you see the complete demoralization of the african of the african national military . so it's so rapid collapses is kind of like what happened to the taliban and $994.00. everybody wants to be on the winning side. and so there's very few people in the losing side. so you see a lot of people changing sides are becoming fence sitters here so that in that sense, it's not a surprise. but what's, what's really interesting here is you see the pentagon talking today about how rapidly since it's the condition that it's here in afghanistan. and then you see jim saki in the white house saying something completely different. so you have a real disconnect inside between the white house and are, and their subordinates across the river. the pentagon too. and i think that's kind of illustrative of where we are. and john, this is why we have you because you're an expert and you're pretty good at predicting what's gonna happen next. thank you so much for joining us. china sent

his canadian entrepreneur michael spell or to 11 years in prison, in a case linked to beijing, fight against the canadian government over the rest of an executive tech giant wall way or to correspond to john hardy joined us with the story. the chinese police arrested canadian citizen michaels 5 or back in 2018 after the chief financial officer of huawei main one. joe was arrested out of vancouver airport at the request of us authorities. he was charged with bank and wire fraud. as long as it remains out on bail and vancouver staying at the multi $1000000.00 mansion she owns while awaiting another extradition, hearing the chinese court convicted 5 or of espionage, accusing him among other things of supplying intelligence and sensitive information to former canadian diplomat. michael cove rig cobra was also arrested and detained along with 5 or both being held in isolation in the chinese prison for more than 2

years with reportedly limited contact with canadian embassy and the outside world. canadian ambassador to china, dominic barton, said this, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this decision rendered after a legal process that lack both fairness and transparency and a statement. canadian prime minister justin trudeau called spammers conviction and sentencing, absolutely unacceptable and unjust. and said, the canadian government would work to secure both he and cove riggs, immediate release, president biden has said his administration would also help in that effort, but that it could require the us to drop or modify its case against man one joe. while ways lawyers are pushing a canadian court to reject the u. s. is extradition request. her lawyers arguing the u. s. is overreaching with its charges. 5 are been living in china. are trying to start up various businesses, both there and in north korea. the chinese chord incense and seeing him also left

open the possibility of deportation seen as a move to pressure canada in the one showcase. we had a constant visit with michael right afterwards and he wanted to send 3 messages. one. thank you for all your support means a lot to me too. i am in good spirits and 3, i want to get home us secretary of state anthony blink and also demanded the release subscriber and coverage, saying they had been arbitrarily detained for more than 2 and a half years. and that quote, people are not bargaining chips. the chinese government denies 5 are uncovered, are being held as political hostages or bargaining chips. but both men have been seemingly caught in the crossfire in what has become a political war of wells with dangerous consequences. for news use hughes. john hardy. when we return, parents are angry as a mask mandates are starting to reappear in school or they have any success in

changing all the things are going to bring you that. that's going to be the driven by adrian shaped by 10 percent of those in me i think we dare to ask a credit trillions of dollars that they send to chinese workers and chinese factory owners who make the world goods that they shipping containers into

amazon warehouses and wal mart stores, where millions and millions of americans work at a less than survivor will minimum wage and are for the 1st time in america, life expectancy is going down. the british and american governments have often been accused of destroying lives in their own interest. while you see in this, these techniques is the state devising message to end essentially destroy personality of an individual lifetime. means this is how one doctor's theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against the prisoners deemed a danger to the state. that was the foundation for the method of psychological interrogation, psychological torture, disseminated within the us intelligence community, and worldwide among allies for the,

sorry to hear how the victim say they still live with the consequences today. the doctor around paul, the doctor has just been fitted on youtube for a week over a video he posted where you said masks are ineffective. this as a national debate over mask in schools is happening as kids are returning to the classroom. and parents are very emotionally charged at the cyber once again being forced on their children's face. so to go to 360 on this as well as to discuss the governor of organ signature on a new law which allow students to graduate from high school without proving they can read, write, or even do simple math. we are joined by director of development advocacy and sustainability for whole child strategies, luther mercer and georgia state lawmakers, dock and taylor. thank you so much for joining me on this. thank you for having

luther. i want to start with you. i want to start with this organ though, because this is actually, i was kind of shock as like, is this, am i reading this, right? you know, i get, we live in these challenging times, especially for educators. but do you think it's smart to make a high school degree, be the participation trophy for the last 12 years. a child is invested in their education? well, i'm definitely concerned scotty and thank you. have me on this debate because one of the thing has been happening across the country is i know that we're looking at historical issues, data, things like that in relation to how children are progressing in school. but yet to have a standard that we're now setting that we're not quite sure what the standard is. meaning in oregon, oregon bill said we're going to suspend essential skills, which i don't know what that means as a requirement or having. ready a, a. ready degree diploma and at that point,

what is the measurement by which we assess how that student has a wired information, whether they retain that information, whether they know how to apply that information. so some of the things that are lacking in the discussion is if we are removing this, then what is the alternative, what are we putting in place? and how do we guarantee these to be able to succeed in the future? right? and it's all about what kind of her future day, you know, the govern cation. director said he suspended that it was suspended, reading, writing, and math proficiency requirement that it would benefit the organs, black, latino, latino, teen x, indigenous, asian, pacific islanders, tribal, and students of color. i have a real problem with this because how can lower in the standards, especially naming specific minority groups not be seen as insulting to those minority groups? well, you know, it's got the best and very good question, an assessment. the 1st thing we should not do is down down education. however, at the same time, we know that historically,

meaning standardized tests have been not geared towards people from certain demographic groups. so 1st by me to find out why they did what they did because many states have moved away from certain types of standardized testing because they know that it does not accurately measure someone academic performance. but at the same time, we need to make sure we're not dropping the ball, but to be honest with you, if a child has got an automated 12th grade at this point and they have a lot that check out the past year, the year after year, then something is wrong with that educational system more so than a child leaving the not being able to read or write your a d, i have to give you 100 percent on that one. another thing, however, that's presenting its edge cation system right now, is this mask in the outrage, parents that they're expressing a school board meetings, you know, last night luther in your home state of tennessee, williamson county, very conservative county had over a 1000 parents asking for the one for county school board to not put on a mask mandate start out peaceful. obviously, emotions got bigger and bigger. but you see right here the board ignore this and

actually voted to make elementary school kids where mass, i'm elementary, school kids only kind of odd. i'm scratching my head on this, they say it's because they can't get the shot at this point. the vaccine are we live in a time when politicians are assuming control from the parents. and is that right? well, you know, from 4 to 6 you have to have the polio, the mizo chicken pox bashing. and at this point because of children are so the cdc in dr. patchy has kind of put in place something to say as they were ready to go with vaccinating these other groups of people. ready the question is how you protect other members of your community? how do you predict others young people in, in class? and so i think the board was making the decision that because we don't have that requirement just yet. and therefore, we need to have,

at least at basic math i am, i am always concerned about though it taking that moving forward. i am also concerned about the school board not listening to parents concerns and trying to meet them where they were in relation to trying to balance, protecting the students, as well as a human, to in listening to parents concert. right. so when i saw this bay last night, that was one that was one of the red flags that was raised me. and the real quick, i want to turn this because regardless of how you feel about the mask, and i'll leave that debates and medical professionals. do you think there is a problem right now about boards and politicians using and the idea of public health taking away power and decision making skills from the parent? do you feel like parents rights are being challenged in this situation? and can there be danger on future issues? i mean, we've seen governments the wrong in the past. i have to think of segregation immediately comes to mind. i have a 20 seconds on this one. you know what?

i think everybody is losing their mind. math protect people and so i'm all for the children. if even if requires a math and let them wear a mass, anyone that go to school to fight to not have their child protective. i need to get their my check there because something obviously is going on. this is more felt in the protection of the children. well, it's an interesting isn't that then you know what, as a fellow parent, i think you're there. i do that. i respectfully disagree. i'm one of those just say that i believe that the mental health has been damaged, but this is why we can have this conversation and we can do in a respectful way. and that's why i appreciate you always call me on my show. thanks for joining me, d and luther. that's all the time we have for today show, but i promise this is a conversation which we will continue to follow me on twitter at study. and here's the hash tag team and a lot of great conversation to debate about the topics of the day. and if you were to continue to learn more, download the app for your apple or android device you get past because of this show and all the programming that we have here on our america. like always thanks for

watching the same. the ah, do you understand? and then you need to talk to someone like you could just touch base with anybody with me and i can offer you one. i'm in a position where you may need to go on it for more than you want to

do. some of our wonderful, unfortunately all day join me, but it was easy. i got to get to choose, you can put up with me going to be as long food. i want to tell you the other hand, that way that you need that because that quote, so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time. time to sit down and talk the

berlin police say the use of violence is part of germany's legal system in response to claims of employing excessive force against protesters at a recent anti lockdown rally julian assault supporters gathered outside london. high court has listened to washington's appeal to extradite the whistleblower to the u. s. a former british opposition leader was among those lending support to the wiki, like founder under threat to serve his depression . and what he's also, i'm the for the threats of example. so all of us take my 1st helicopter right can be for a better reason and our to joins a helicopter crew battling the devastating wildfires that have ravaged russia far east for months.