the next step then is really blessed line. we got to take the bus, but the last drop had a weird incident at home where a pins that are in his home bowling lane screws as pop, but he's back susan 3 duff versus buddy the cake boss, buddy. the last row right up to this on dennis miller plus one. now folks welcome to dennis miller plus one happy to welcome. but eva last strode. the show. the cake guy says madeline tells me, but he became a household name with his reality show cake boss that started in 2009 and ran for 14 seasons. so obviously they were running more. i know what you're saying, dennis, that's only 12 years. they ran more than once like survivor,

the queued up one after the other is the owner of carlos is bakery as well as the face of buddy bees restaurant. and buddy currently as a show on the food network, buddy versus duff, it's sue mo and chris go and goldman, the other half of the team. susan 3 currently airing. that's a long way of saying, but even last, dro, how are you, brother? hey, what's going on? dennis? have been, man, i'm good brother. i want to check on your, your pod, the home pins that are incident mad. i know it sounds like, you know, i got months out there, but i honestly didn't got a, i'm recovered greeley. i had 5 surgeries, a ton of physical therapy, and i got about 90 percent of my strength, fac, and a lot of my dexterity back. when about 56 weeks before we started filming,

i had my 5th and final surgery. now was the one to really give me flexibility before that i couldn't even bend my my hand. i could, this was like, my 1st like can make so i would have never been able to do the competition and going into this competition. i really wasn't sure my capabilities. i mean, i know i wanted to compete, but i didn't know how strong i was going to be or what my endurance level was. and i going to tell you dennis, thing. god. because not only did i, you know, go to a competition great. but we made some of the best cakes i've ever made in my life. and there was nothing from a hand perspective that held me back, or that i couldn't do little lighter touch on your front page now. but it said, you know, when i think about the irony of that body, like, obviously it's your stock in trade killer baker. now tv starboard, you start up,

carlos bakery and you know, that's sure that you're living, and maybe it always years, me a grand, i catch the great chef at a linea. he ends up getting a taste, but you know, a tumor on it. you just think my god, the way the world visits weird things for you to go in doing some bowling. all of a sudden that happens like that. you've got immediate carpal tunnel. 5 surgeries later. so thankful your back brother. what a, what a great the punctuation note. yeah, and honestly, god bless the doc carlson is h s. s and my therapy team because, you know, i would never, if i show you the video then assume is pretty gory. it looks like like a holloway prop. i got a metal spike that went right through my hand. that was crazy. well, thank god, you're a good le let's, let's leave it at that. and i know a lot of fans were worried about you, but you're back in there in the squared circle with duff goldman. so i know they

weren't going to green light. you baby, unless you had your chops back to notice that i am fresh, but i got to tell you in the last 3 months i got hooked on great british baking show. i've watch 9. yeah, i watch 9 and tire seasons. i was fascinated by it. is funny, the thing i walked away with, i used to always look in the windows at photoshop or something when i was in paris and thank god patricia ray, so beautiful. i've lost my respect for the way because it doesn't seem half as good as half the puddings and takes and shoe pastry they were making on the show over the 10 seasons i watch. and i'm wondering what when you 1st started, was it bread? is that your gateway, your gateway bake no my gateway big was definitely more. busy old world, the timing deserts you know, like making a sweet well or cream puff. st. clair's, all that shoe pastry pies and cookies. and, you know, i have a tremendous amount of respect for,

for that british baking show. it's kinda like killing a trance. you go into a new yes, soft in and you like how to help that i watched tends to that. did you memorize, you know, mesmerized so for me it's more important the flavor and the artisan of how to make something then even the way it looks and i know that you watch what i do case and you're like, oh yeah, but a lot of what you do is more. busy decorative and creative. yeah, but it starts with the base of that, you know, old world ingredients doing it the old fashioned way we do. that's what we still do today. yeah, i'm definitely more interested in what's on the inside of the font and then i am under 400. it's. yeah, it's nice, but to me it's like the, the color area equivalent sheet rock or something you got to katie actually i was, i would say those back all the place of our yeah, you get the skim code on,

but i want to see what's behind there. man, and i'm fascinated by the cake big and you know, what i dug about the british make off is that they were still they hadn't gotten so woke or politically correct, that they still wouldn't light somebody up who screwed the poach on a particular thing. i find that artic listed, it's such a touchy feely world right now with this whole thing, but we don't have a 1st or 2nd place. there were times people would, based on their and paul hollywood guy would say, he take a bike goes, this is horrible. and i think it shouldn't be the end of the world we, we've, we've become a motional, heem, a feely acts. i found that interesting that they would still call people on up. i'm wondering on the way up, do you think you would have gotten as good as your god? if there wasn't somebody marco pier while somebody along the way, who just looking. so this isn't cutting a kid. you gotta get better. don't you need that somewhere in your career? i definitely do. i mean again, i was dealt crazy cards. i was 17. my dad died. i had to drop at

a high school to take over the family business. and you know, i had to go every single day and work hard with the guys who knew more than me. i had a whole myself, you know, pay homage, respect to them for them to teach me. and i had a train and i train them. i trained and i, you know, i had to become the best i could be what i did. and it only comes from hours and hours. you know, people always asked me all the time. like, how did you get so good for me? baking is like breathing. i don't even think about it. it's a reaction, right? i think a placement bag, it's like attached to my arm. it's like, you know, like a transform that only happens when you bake thousands and thousands of cakes and cookies and pastries. it's from hours of becoming a master, right? i want you of the piping bag. it's like, you know, roger for

a whole lot of the to distract it. it's just, it is an extension of, of your very person. hey, tell me about your dad. brag on your old man for me or tell me what it, what sort of kid that he handed off at 17. and what part did he play? and getting that kid from amniotic to 17. tell me about your dad. my dad was my best friend. my biggest hero, my life, and biggest influence by 1st day of work he brought me in. i was probably 11 or 12 years old and i said, my going to do that. i'm going to make cake. and he brought me a bathroom and he says, i want to clean the toilet bowl. so really, i gotta clean it all. again, i came from a very old fashion of tying and household where i had 4 sisters and my mom, i was like the prince and do nothing at home. you know, i was like, great, like, i mean it's just, it was all you know, you can say today that there was a tour of it. oh, lord, valley. i'm obviously cut my take me was 40,

you know, i mean the world will you know, but he and he said to me why he, when i said dad, you want me to really do this. he says, why do you think you to good for? and i said no, and he said to me, son, you got to take as much pride and clean the toilet bowl as if you were making a wedding cake. and he wanted to show the baker's that just because i was his son, i wasn't going to get special treatment. and he wanted me to know what it was like to be the guy to clean the towable. and you know what today dennis, in their mind i, you know, i will get down clean the total. busy today i tell my employees, there's never anything that i'd ask you to do that i wouldn't do. i never ask you to work harder than me. and you know, you set the temple used to tell me when you, when you're working on a bench. he say used to say you got to do 2 cookies to everybody's one. you set the

temple, your blood's got to boil, like you said, the example of how to work, be the 1st one in and, and do what you gotta do. and he was amazing. and i actually during this season a body dove or finale cake, we did this $22.00 foot long nuclear dinosaur. right? and it was about 2000 pounds. who was this one of the sickest cakes ever made in my life? i mean, you step back, you like, holy, like you can't even imagine you made that and i stepped back them as an i cry. and i thought of my dad, i said, man, they all men can see where we don't even dreamt of doing that. in 1990 you know. busy like when, when i was learning as a young baker and just, you know, that after this injury i was able to achieve that level of cake. was,

was like, no, i thought of l man. there's actually his chain when he died and i put it on and never take it off. beautiful. you know what you should have that you should have good to know margin. the old man went in at the end of the nuclear, died at the end of the 22 feet. right? where are the elementary canal exit signs of the property? and put a molten steaming cake right there. and then your old man saying what you're to good, the clean up nuclear dinosaur, buddy. get into go green rather exactly say to me if it, but it will last row with us to take a break. we're going to come back and talk more about buddy versus duff. i also want to talk about some of the primal underlay of preparing food for other human beings. there's show biz, there's this, there's that. but if he did come from, obviously the, from the family, those women taking care of the women,

but making something about the primal exchange, preparing, sustaining food for other human beings and how important it is in this whole overarching scenario buddy, the last row right after this on dennis miller plus one, i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except when the shorter does that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence at the point obviously is too great truck rather than fear i would like to take on various jobs with artificial intelligence. we'll summoning the theme in

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personality of an individual lifetime. means this is how one doctor's theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against prisoners deemed a danger to the state. that was the foundation for the method of psychological interrogation, psychological torture, disseminated within the us intelligence community, and worldwide among allies for the next 30 years. been to the victim say they still with the consequences today. the hey folks. welcome back to that is miller. blood was having a blast, but the last drop and the pause, good cake boss started in 2009 room for 14 seasons. he's the owner of carlos baker . i think they branched out a little. but the original mother ship, i think, somewhere in jersey. and he's also the face of buddy v ristorante,

and he currently has to show, you know, with duff buddy versus stuff on the food network. you know, buddy, my kid when he got out of new instead of taking one of those, well, what do they call it? a bridge year before you go either high school to college, college grad school. he took a bridge year and he said he just wanted to work gigs like like larry, larry, whatever, darnell or whatever his name is. and the razor's edge, he wanted to just work a bunch regular gigs. he was a baker for a while. and i said, son, you know, he was in new york. you said it was a 1000 degrees. he was bacon bread for this restaurant down in the village and i said, what do you get out of its son? and he said, well listen, i just wanted to learn something substantive. and i thought what could be more substantive than making bread to be the peat other humans and having them come back in a few days later and say that was a killer love, give me another one of those. he said it was a very primal and he find a valid exchange. you must find that your work. it must be the underlay of

everything. right. 100 percent. that is, i mean that's, that's what we do. you know what, i'm in the business of making people happy. when i see them me, one of my creations or something that i made and you see them enjoy it. it's why we do all we do. and it's funny how you said like, you go back to like, bread baking, we talk about it actually where my mother comes from an italy. it's a little town in polio. cold of the moon. i've been the poor you've been employ. yeah. she had a food. great, good of the motor every year when the blue ribbon for the best bread and all europe . and i'm just saying and because my mother's down, it's called plenty of delta mood, right. so i did an. busy episode to keep boss right, we will go to bakery and this oven had to be about 1400 years old. that they were bacon a brennan, and they had the mother used to go. how many years is the mother?

he's the goes, we don't even we, i mean, 100, say hundreds, a years it goes back that. yeah. mother is and they treat this thing like like, you know, it's, it's their child. this mother. yeah. and they make an a bread and we're trying to film and you know how it is and all right, we'll wait a 2nd camera. the guys like, hey, listen fargo, we don't go right now. we're going to bring going in a rose to where it's got to go and my camera guys are all scramble. we got it. but to see the pride of what these, you know, like this quality did, they made any cobblestones. were this big old oven and what happens is they stuff if they light a fire would, would, would, would they stuff to burn all the bright, an air, and then it close it in a seal off the oxygen. so the fire goes out and it is worth the bread cook, and it is like the most delicious bread you've ever tasted in your life and done in

such an old world way. and what happened was the town, it's funny, they all the families used to have a stamp. because back then they couldn't go ambo and 500 years ago, they had no way of they couldn't buy the bakery. the bread from the bakery. they were make the bread at home and put their family stamp in it and then bring it to a bakery and he would baker for them. wow. it was like the sticky thing. so that's like my, like my surname miller there. there was always a cat and the thing you, you'd take the take the grain from the field down and he would grind it up the miller for the same sort of the same deal that i love, that they couldn't afford it. so they take it to the, the center piece that of and that still is with us today. you talk about the hub of a town right there, brother. incredible, incredible. and i love the fact that the mother east, they've always got a story on like, well, this was the emperor herod bins. belly button fuzz. and we put that

in some. we put that in some oil le, more. ne, overnight to now we've got this. they've always got a story about their mother use that so beautiful. yeah. or when you get into cognac like you, they tell you about this cause cognac was you know, for being 90 to king louis you big, you know, it goes look really very rare. vintage indeed. you know, when i was read, when you watch bread, the world around buddy, when you go over, you were talking about design and i love that mental image of them having all those years. they get those stones so hot, you think about over in india when you see them throwing those things in those big . they're almost like jars that they super heat and they throw it, they flap it onto the inside of the jar, take their non bread. i'm just absolutely fascinated by bread. if somebody said to

me and listen, i love cakes. i'm a cake family self. but somebody said, what's it all about? and i wanted to study, they can think i'd have to go to bread just because it seems so adam and eve to me . know, yeah, it is. some could the bread is amazing. i love. right. i mean again and luckily enough, being from new york in new jersey, we are good right here. you know what i'm saying? i mean, i don't, i don't. busy i don't want to let you in on a secret, but we do have the best friends in a country here. know that a lot, those slider bonds out of white man. i can think about those and still get my mouth water. and on the way, i'm away at the theatre. you stop it. well, you know, i know. i love it. i love it. love it, the best boom. boom. this pile him in, baby, smash him down those little balls and go in or talk of the body of the last dra buddy versus stuff in the show right now. 3rd season over at the food network. it's funny to me. they always find authentic catch up posting the shows and yet when they do their next networks, food ship thing,

it's so politically correct and woke and it, you know, you sit there and you watch it and they come in with those incipit career. you can say anything, you know, they're your bosses, but the thing that workshop food network is real guys doing real work and make a real product. you look at guy, i know people have trouble with guy. when i watch, guy said an extra casual, makes apostrophe sam, which i know clara, wisconsin who he's proud of it and god gives him his property. that's a beautiful moment man. it's very important that the host connect with regular human beings. well, nobody like guy for that, and i got to say like, i know him or you know, or besides be on tv with him. he's just an awesome god. yeah. he's there kylie, you know, he's just saw through the earth and, and that's, and that's what, what i think people connect with. right. and honestly, i don't think that anybody does better on tv. and i mean, you know, like, he's that kind of guy like who you want to come to your baker. you want to feed him,

you know what i'm saying? he looks like a guy you want to feed. now robert osborne on tcm was the another fully realized, guy on television, i thought what a perfect mesh of a guy these movies. and i look at guy and like i said, you see those people, they're very proud of a specific this that's been made. maybe 100 times and the hand that the guy and he does, he disengages, with john, takes a big bind. looks taps that i think that's, that's their pulitzer, that's the nobel prize that moment matters to them. and he knows that he says he's smart and he's kind and not only to them but to people in the community like white manor. right. like me and you know, white man, but you know, some guys here in new jersey but not ever be across america. does like when you're watching diners driving the dives and you see white man on the, you know, i didn't as my spot or, you know, water a one a local places that you know, so it's a, becomes a community here. ok. now docs real people like you to the extent that i know and i

can't say no golf duff, i know guy a little, but whenever i would watch for the best thing i ever 8 and they got to him, they usually put him in the clean up squad, and you can see that you could see those jobs work and he's about to tell you about a pit beach that what you're baltimore, you can see, you know, he's getting all drooly like turner and who should know it's dripping. i guess that guy he knows of what he used to say which or do i know exactly. well, isn't i going to tell you of me and i became really good friends over over the course of these 3 seasons. it funny enough, we were really probably 2 of the biggest names in baking in a world, but we never really met, you know, we never really, really sore each other. just kind of coincidentally, and then, or, you know what, i hurt my hand. he was one of the 1st people to call me and, and wish me best same guy, you know, and just just just good people. so now let's say i want to pick your brain

a little bit and i know there's a bunch of places, but man, you gotta give me a few of cakes that you dreamed because i gave yeah, i can get, i can get caught up with a cake or a good hokey, i can think of, you know, a good huggy sandwich and i can't get it out of my head. i go, i got to call in and see if they ship those. there is a take place back in virginia that i order a christmas cake from. i can't remember the name right now. it comes with a red can with a strike of it is so freaking good. i'll get another one this christmas. sorry, i'm blanking on the name, but tell me a couple cakes that you roll over in your hands. and boy, they hit the hell out of that cake. i mean, i believe it or not. i love cake. i mean, and so we did this one episode of we were doing a show was be but now be body. it was, it was what we did. i didn't like

a competition show where i was looking for like the best figures and this one guy made this week, potato cake. and again, and listen, i mean, between me and you, i try to be politically correct when you eat it. you know what i'm trying to say when you eat one day and you're like, oh my god, this thing is delicious. and yeah, i the whole god damn piece it was like it was forget about was the one thing cream cheese i always had like this maple potter cream. so like a maple butter cream, but it was a sweet potato cake. it was almost like it had p cans on top was like, can be, it was like crack, it was so good. you just like, kept going into it and you and you couldn't, couldn't get enough of it. you ever see the movie quite show buddy. you know, that will be a great movie called quiz show, directed by robert redford and it's,

it's, i'm telling you, if you get a chance, it's one of the most exquisite modern movies. it gets short trip, but it's brilliant. it's about the quiz show scandals, and there's a scene where re finds goes home for the weekend. his life's of mouse durham. now he's been cheating on the, he's been cheating on this quiz show. he knows that his father's grand d at columbia university and he knows he's in trouble. he goes home, he becomes a kid. he goes into kits in the night. it can't sleep. he takes a big court glass cord of milk and a piece of chocolate cake. and it's the only sol, as he has in his life at the moment, is he's eating his mom's chocolate cake. and he's cooling his head with a cold bottle and then taking a big swig. and i often think, you know, you can derive comfort creature comforts from some things from your childhood that can make you feel safe again. and often they're of an old factory sense, tast touch, smell, stuff like that. for your percent 100 percent. know that i get

a check that movie out, but there is nothing like that. you know, i mean for me, i could i do it on sundays like when i wake up on sunday morning, i walk downstairs and i could smell the garlic and meatballs brian up reminds me of my mother or my grandma. now my wife does it, you know, so it sadness, damage it at family meal. that dead center. i did not bring spam, was together like boot or, or you replicate not vide buddy over at the restaurant. a tell me about that. i'm not as hip to that. i know you from banking. you replicating that family stuff. vibe over there. 100 percent. anytime you are the venetian, that is let me know. i love to have you there. check it out. what the for me, the, the call on every rock stars in my life. where my mom, my grandma, my dad, my, my wife, my wife's and amazing cook. i mean that's why i can't lose the last 30 pounds,

you know? but um, i want people to go to my restaurant and feel like to read it in my house. and honestly, we've just been, you know, it's about 7 years now. we've just been growing so much. and we had a lot of repeat business because it's real, it's real like jersey, red sauce type a place. you know, so anytime you're in town come let me add to your list of impact cooks in your life. i got to go with big poly shave and the guy like dad raise a leg. that's like the ready get to get a translucent and then it's, it's a perfect moment. these guys are so brutish, but they're delicate with their guy, like slides. absolutely beautiful. but he, the last stroke. first he's best and guess what folks, the, the hand is good, and buddy and up and their 3rd season. good to see you back. rather, i'm glad. good for you. that is always a pleasure, man. thank you,

brother. all right, later good buddy glass draw dennisville or plush. why? oh i, i think it's part of mental health revolution. we increasingly freeze political claims. the language of mental health became more common. so if you disagree with something i said on this program, you know, just say i just agree with you. i think you're wrong because of the following problems in your evidence logic, you say your micro grass mate, you say you triggered me. you said you hard me again, some psychological way because those are psychological terms. and i guess an enormous problem for politics because it's almost impossible to have a discourse on that terrain. the

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