forward and its mutation capabilities will keep bringing new greek alphabet letters into the public consciousness. unfortunately, much more complicated efficacy. math could be on the way they were in it. well, don't convert so much more from the ropes so far today. the welcome to. so because vision are nice and knocked at the corona crisis, i highlighted the need to rethink the way our society is function to reflect on days, i'm joined by one of the world's most influential thinkers. legendary philosopher flowers, the legendary philosopher author of condemning colleague 19 shakes the world. i've

been wanting to talk to for the longest time. welcome to our program. i will be here and i know it will be many if you love too much, it would be separate, but maybe let's start from this. i remember during last year's famous debate with georgian patterson, you said that he managed to continue to slide toward some kind of apocalypse until some major catastrophe awakens us in this pin demik, be categorized as stretch, exacerbate not the from day me but the from day me it was indeed to get that we already got that i believe we need is mouth connected. we are not sure why we see you wish me. you

remember? i don't know. i used to speak to see that i shot record. it might be most the main cause a global warming because my ferocity managing and so on. so we have another sheets the day or so. so then because she's, she's sapir mon tomorrow. exploding united states. let's be almost barbara, tv, or united states leasing in the state are those where mass in the state or those who are who are to me, governmental penalty. we know now the numbers from united states we, they states that know best and, you know, be unsafe,

printing money and so on. you can do this. finally. nice be guy. he may or may be, i don't know how he'd be in your back job job, but i always follow dish. do you know he's 1st started off a few months here. astrid? by oblique. you know, like in germany, there was the most faithful belief, almost ready to be to my old 3 way offline. i love to be in united states. in the 11th, i fear all, most, most the size of the collapse of their it's dean equally. and you've got the break down,

you'll be your last not will be even you don't get any conspiracy already know. you're just say, you know, i want my normal life and fear crazy uncertainty. the. the toughest thing for a person cited to take need or shear. also, these were not if we need now i'm sure to say be it will open some of my democracy. we need now feed yes. yes. you need this who read but also is you said you well, i don't know. well i find the show. find is how. although i agree we rely on size, but i do remember that video image. do you remember

how we need to begin february? my mother was just wait for that sheet. if she were there were some things where even glad about showing lane. we keep doing. i mean you can make my family wonder, it goes all over all those years of the way ways check old race. now we see it's one of the way or wrong. we know some basic things, but we really don't know what's going on. or i want to say that's my message or the forget about the old to be you know, all of my life we live with not

just this is just called father. my name stays we problems. nobody was mean good or liaison officer in europe and sean and we globally a new state we can confront in their organized way. so, and that's the construct your final message that we're never going to go back to what we are used to call normal. right. and i read your recent all back, you say that things with certain crisis that they can drive on for years in some cases may never. and it is, the case is called the 19 and maybe, you know, again, or, you know, i don't know what to expect vaccines and so on. i am i what, what are the me the something and i want to, i know,

i think i want any other dialogue. if you have this thing impression in countries did they follow closely? my own risk? yes. we get counting. we are more and more getting something people call a car on people die. oh, close the news or both got on the dangers and so on and so on. and somehow i don't want to be we and they go in my own country. there is now a new base people who don't many people don't keep them in shape in the restaurant. they do, i know they were quite a few or in the most sense she can re look only below those, but yes, yes. okay. so again,

again, this is what i am afraid off. of course i agree with those who said to me, we can definitely be if you then tell you we never where we always, we mean glasses to us where to go back quite be at least before you get to work out. and they say you a lot of that, yes, somebody just to bring your food and so on. and so what i'm saying is that, eat, eat, may get a little be better. we may go or lot, but what we do accept is dead. this is, we've got a food we told, and so one guy know better money said that we will change our way of life.

so if you look at it from the other side and as well, are you saying it's a permanent state and when you say the department of state for many that they panic because they don't want that certain. but on the other hand, if this is something that we need to get used to, to adjust our habit to use the economy, maybe it is a good thing that happened to us because maybe it was a long time that when needed to stop and think, well once again, to agree with you here, although i don't want to be to kimmie good, you know, kinney are saying it was that rabbit. and i, and i always say if you didn't like these guys i oh nice. you can then justify us know, because we don't progress probably, you know,

stayed on the bus. this is how i will use those are the things i didn't know where it made more, more or less dangerous. merely daddy security gone for the social dangelo and was already here called me. that's what the dc does. show gotta lease for defense. i totally agree with you. it can be, i wouldn't say a good be something that we to confirm to be ok. so there is another question we did, did we're and wakes up the fact that the crisis is permanent. it's a permanent state, but after a while it becomes a permanent state. it's no longer a crisis. and as soon as the threat of virus is accepted as a new normal sense of urgency and the need for me to change is gone. how should

society keep the determination to act upon the change a life if we accept the crisis of the normal 1st? if we accept, i think we are not, yes, if we accept it and you know it will be okay, but 1st it's not just the crisis. shouldn't be an arm of goss here. we can be, we can lower the danger info and so on. basic message to me just economy level. so there is low and i think we are really doing is steep. when will this matter be over? that's what we get school every day. me. if you get these by your law goes by. okay,

me good. whatever event we slow because of global society, we leave again. let's make a cynical experiment. let's imagine that he came out in the late 90 or 9050 seem to be really care about became a smaller local peak. so, you know, even if we are going to change the virus, bless in the sense of we don't give him a vaccine order we are doing, got a defensive address. so to the stands and so on. i think we can do quite both at the level of social organization. okay, hold on there and then take a short break right now when we are back we'll continue talking to one of the biggest mines of 20th and 21st century language about what's going to happen to

societies in post corona, iraq. stay with us. oh i i will go with the join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests in the

world. the politics sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then me the ah. and we're back talking to philosophers was huge example like you say, not just like economy or paradigm crisis. it's also a psychological crisis. what was the intent of people out in the st. demanding? and then to like massive corporations or banks. we have people out demanding and to certain statues and police races, or in the mandatory wearing masks and for size relation. what needs to happen in your view for people protest energy to be directed into

a path of fundamental social change. i am here, but that she me, if you ask me, well i was some of the stand and she, i don't think that now before the end of this week together by again, by us economic progress against sex, you are in the wrong that will be and you will make up progress, your movement and so on, and so wrong. we know that we have today. i don't well coordinate some dates even in for your protest against the state that you're out against. so go along, getting the same years down into a woman describing the united states against you. we don't respect the most progress going to being that they

need to be sustained by logical of belief. all right, we have some already very old fashion to problem. it's not vital whether we can do anything. finally, we old fashion, believe about best to be about and so on and wrong. there was some think of escape and some not only green ghost but also left me and guess join 10 fear. i don't agree we don't even some of my friends who claims disability medical can i use? it's not dyersburg amongst, you know, we need in a moment. it's just now our life. it's not a bite of do we don't change our life and the only boss i

see so much stronger over the state and i like super global. we used to work me to be dispatched. i don't mean to be studying the strait by police. i mean, there should be for the speaker, probably concerns. we've got a meeting where we need we need food. co it be done again. the problem is, i mean got your intervention. it's no longer the market when you're saying, when a man, when it hospital does that, that could be just as a master, global responds to tackle depend demik. but when you say we need new communism,

i don't always understand because to me, for someone who live, talk over lives and communism like you, company isn't, is a great idea, but it just doesn't work when applied to people. so you tell me what exactly does that entail when you say we need new comments or what exactly what, what was your typically if you send me the problem. so what is something that could be considered would be from our school deal? let me measure which i don't mean by by, by probably when i'm is eating, although he's also and he's gone buddy's. but when i'm giving every family $1200.00 or whatever. so this is already why spend your basic income. this is all i mean by shot way to reach

probably walk away. you probably any day over a few problems. we both could only go where, where if you remember all going to hell, you know, and like one of them you can be when the say, kim, please dave over space or action and so on and so on. but we're not going to need politicizing economy when you say the new communism is when you have to market economy, but it is a political economy as well. it makes sense. of course, for me it has downfalls because there is much less freedom. but you know, i guess i'm, you have to choose what kind of freedom you look here a little bit. let me miss your new lane. he made this famous bond freedom. yes,

butler who walk and so on and so on. i order res. seem to it's not enough. think to me meet for you. don't do what us going at a josh in the central freedom. can i do united states or not paid? oh, nice, nice book of course. but you don't mean the bottom. she somehow deep it into the some through in the way the society develops. when you say that the corporations and banks, she's not tell society people what they want, what to do, how to do you mean that something? yes. shoot or, or are people it, i don't want to sound condescending or are people to be completely trusted?

i think you're interviewing someone, i think a democracy in the sense that people decide every think, sorry about who and then people who formulate issue, they can go into action, daddy and so on. you know, we usually hear all i'm saying is that market logic doesn't what here market logic alone because market forces you to profit such space off many relations here. but it's very interesting to read books or essays on what goes on in maybe good industry. do you know how many companies have thought in the west is for you? but they know that the market they do roll all the more

expensive many things surveyed by the copyright and give interest. so i'm just, some guy knows probably state whatever we should be by now. i hope you like the spot that they use a couple of my i v i would sure be me again from you nice song or just you raj, the united states, you know, people say what you made mistakes. i know we need to be a good can you even imagine what chunk of the late julie and i so i will have him try and we will be he will be your cursor when we need to be yes, we need to control any problem. the space space follows on my

iphone, where i move in there, you know, i know united states is where all are going to be compelled by an internal and so on. but should be we should know what back to us. this might be the most of these where when we are not even aware that it's probably a lead united states, people really think i like the ideal coast corano world according to but now he's going to be also be modest lies and so well no, no it will not be nice,

i mean the center of it has more you throughout this exam because already water in the audio say okay, we got everybody to survive. but correct me if i wrong, then you now used and they had the notion of the war and is what i wanna ask you about. because post war, relative stability always rested on a social contract. that implement implied that citizens paid their dues while government keep improving the leading standards. now the crisis has completely highlighted in hyphened all the issues with social contracts, with dolly paying their dues and government having nothing to give back. what will be in the, the governments of the world do now to regain the trust of the public because it's not going to be not going to be like before anymore. what can be done to regain that trust? what i am afraid, ambitious happening, especially in the united states,

is that you know, i don't think this is a bad deal. can you go in cycle bolling me? i mean, go back to the city, probably going to democrats, then it was some kind of basic, bleak gosh, or i will say back. we've played against the game of can be seen by me. and so on. these in spite of what we have the lower back in the united states, i received a v. she's personal madness that maybe he will not be a good life. electra, he's out on anybody successful demarcus. she gets a lead me in the sense that we've got the game, redeem a circumstance. and what i said is this,

not every country will be made after the in between they may go to a new probably one or so called social got back. we will need a new social progress and hope that she'd, i am afraid that i am, you know, because my god, i love america, gate beach, but against america. like some of my stupid as the spring. i mean, no, america gets make our social crises. it will be very dangerous in the crafts. i don't want to see america are we to really a good one and they need to be and you brought back. well, that's not all suspense. i want to end our wonderful talk. thank you very much.

thank you. so much and i hope we meet again. okay, thanks very much. bye bye bye. the one of the worst ever mass shootings in america was in las vegas in 2017. the tragedy a close a little of the real last vegas. where many say elected officials are controlled by casino loaners. the vegas shooting revealed what? the l v m p d really is. and now it's part of the stand machine to the american public barely remembers that it happens. that just shows you the power of money and las vegas.

the powerful showed that true colors when the pen demik hit the most contagious contagion that we've seen in decades. and then you have a mayor who doesn't care. so here's caroline goodman, offering the lives of the biggest residents to be the control group. to the shiny facade, conceal a deep indifference to the people, the vice. gonna say that they would take an action. absolutely keep the registering and keep the slot machines doing. they use as a money machine is a huge cash register that is ran by people who don't care about people's lives being lost ah, i think is part of mental health revolution. we increasingly freeze political claims. the language of mental health became more common. so if you disagree with something i said on this program, you know, just say i disagree with you, i think you're wrong because of the following problems in your evidence or logic.

you see your micro grass mate, you say you triggered me. you said your heart be again in some psychological way because those are psychological terms. and i guess an enormous problem for politics because it's almost impossible to have a discourse on that terrain. the me ah, ah,

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