on the telephone, me then about 2 weeks after that, i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road. from behind me comes a car with no headlights on. slams into me, pushes me off the road and disappears. something that i really haven't spoken about and nothing like this of course ever happened again, but it does interesting questions with me. sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009 going to film a video. it's going to be the doctor and my grandmother locked in. this dance that never ends. i think of it as like like a purgatory state or just like you know, never got,

never got resolved it. never. she never got better. we thought this was over. we thought this was a bad history. 19 fifties in early 1960. it never crossed my mind that the united states would be using methods that cameran used to destroy me. think i know the wolf fairly well traveled to it, but i really didn't know about the twin towers. i didn't know that the twin tile even existed. yeah, i will never get. i was he's falling server for a gentleman, n g o. ah,

one of the worker said that he was there and i see that america, and i will see what is in my office, which is in to me and suddenly the phone started to ring a lot. the time we knew little about our cadence and how that group was able to evolve to a point where you learn later that that 19 thugs with box cutters was able to bring the united states to our knees. the immediate, the mouth was ordered to florida to help throughout the invasion of afghanistan.

the i 2001 i made the decision life changing decision. it turned out to be to go to afghanistan. and to do that with my wife and my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike. i've gone this on on october, the 7th, 2001. the war on terror began to panic. it's pure panic. this isn't just the united states, bombing, sorties, and campaigns. this is now soldiers on the ground, armed people in the streets, killing people, arresting people, torture and,

and on the target. the muslim was captured and detained in the background of a 3 year. in february 2003, he was taken to gwen ton of detention camp. accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk for the next 20 human, he was held in solitary confinement. ah ah me, after 911, when i received the phone call it was the director of our security and explained to me that the u. s. government asked him to

read me mohammed with a key to being the leader of an al qaeda self in both germany and one trill. the indicator president bush signed the secret direct giving the or 30 to kill or capture terrorist anywhere in the years that followed the food doesn't crisscross the globe, making thousands which like faced with an onslaught of prisoners. the bush administration drew up a memorandum known as the torture memos it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded men's $978.00 judgment. the within months the cia wrote out these methods within one ton of and all its black sites.

ah, they called them enhanced interrogation techniques to see a turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with our cader, who had no experience with interrogations, and had no experience in the middle east. gemini, went into a cubicle, sat down, or he sat down on the typewriter, and together we wrote out the list as techniques that we thought had worked well in the series school. well, i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the captured detainees. did not, did not apply to the capture detainees by the attorneys at the cia. and so i don't think i thought about geneva convention may became what i often refer to

as a modern day equivalent, a snake oil salesman. these 2 psychologist were awarded $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. ah, you don't to camera sensory deprivation overland. along with the cold war thea program, to create a mix of torture techniques. social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence on something else. it has not been controlled. we need to protect society from those that can bring it once more into kills. the strong must protect others and these people are

the whole. the american psychological association is the world's largest organization of psychologists, and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. ah, secretly b a p a and make it my colleges working in the torture program to override the ethical code of you know, home if the military and ca required it a program of abusive interrogations. the program of torture to see a was designed by psychologist and at guantanamo, was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques in the program of the ca

abuse. and that's when i could basically stand no, oh and so suddenly i went trim just being a psychologist in my office to becoming the face of opposition to the a p. s. position war is a strategic business. are planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out and it has consequences for a year. i was in conversations with the department of defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrist in psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams

me, dan, i learned that they were not just advising that they were involved by. i was stunned to take it all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program. ah. the unexpected i'm side of the pandemic kenya is experiencing an elephant baby boom. 200. why does kenya have so many allison carves and how has the pan demik impacted people's lives? and a wall is very big along any fact he end up killing himself. ah,

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the the, the news and again look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people, a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, accept where's the shorter the conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. the point obviously is to

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ah the me in the punishment wing known as india block, mohammedan was isolated from all other detainees. we call it the freed because it's very cool. i was the was level so i mean was level no food, nothing total isolation, psychological and physical torture. and i was in a 27 american hash because of my activism that i was placid in germany,

somewhere to do harm to me either because that little crime or we're going to put you in the torture program. and i said go for it very much. i was really stupid here, the bag that i american said. the logic says that without to they wouldn't be $91170.00 mohammedan, was the most prisoner in the role of psychologist in the torture program. astounds me. i saw that we're heading down a road that i knew was going to be a disaster in 2002 mark, put his neck on the line to superior. see i was using torture. i felt like there was an apple and you can see these boulders coming down

and you wave your arms and you try to stop. i could not stop what was happening, the blood thirsty torture people who is just great for any one person to stop the peer interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond geneva convention, stress positions, sleep management, dietary manipulation. all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion. that's the geneva convention. these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those . my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized by the department, was checked by the lawyers in your shop, in the department, in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with the jan . absolutely. and you do a secretary of defense,

donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammedan retreated 3 of the 911 hijackers. he personally authorized a 90 day special project status on how to do with her and as consequences. 7, the order to abuse prisoners was unlawful. but to build up to that unlawful order, they need a justification. and so what they did was they sent a colonel to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said, going kind of will be, is america's battle lab. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of nuremberg, it evoked memories of what the nazis were doing. experiments, the things they started with was live the professional regime. and then in mass guy brought to the song, it was very dog except for oblige.

and then he stops playing the music lid for body. think the small for the long you know, you, i cannot explain to one someone is doing shackle chuckles on the floor and a group of people, 2 women and a guy come and talk to them on to me. the know that war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00, was shocked. and i think we had been deeply frightened and i think that fear was exploited. certainly in the years after that and continued to be exploited.

the understanding is you have more name entities than any other passion. and you know, i've met a number of them, you know, so many probably more than anyone else. can you tell me about that? i can't specifically talk about what i've my meetings with them or what i've learned about these i've met colleagues shake. mohammad holly been natasha the ramsey. been she a mar belushi and her solid? these men were subjected to all these tactics. and there is absolutely no evidence, absolutely not a shred of evidence that,

that these tactics used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country the we created to in iraq or torture rock more what we call the isis today. die each ice or the same. it's just a manifestation of torture with these are programs that we created and we're living with those results. could you say that you think this is watkins? this is absolutely work. crimes. we knew there were crimes for this new since she is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership

into other protest. this battle would be a p. i was coming to an end here today to reset our moral compass. we had been trying continues to prevent psychologists from being part of national security interrogations. that exposed me acknowledgement. we apologize for it and we changed the stuff to being held for 3 years or more of them was released without totally. so if i got on a plane and come back home to england, what would have happened? would i end up telling them what would these would these painful would this playful period ever have happened? would i be the person i have today?

i called on to those questions, but i do often say to myself, why didn't i just get on a plane and go back or let me know how to do these confessions were found to be the result of taught. he was released without charge. after 14 years in guantanamo or i was no matches and they destroyed and they won. they broke. and there is nothing i could say to save my face or to say, or i won. no, i did not. because those people out of professional doctors who studied just for this purpose, to destroy the human spirit and make dependent be then and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to cautious in august 2017, the 2 psychologists who created the cia torture program were about to be put on

trial. we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do. we knew it was lawful . we knew it was a wiggle. we knew it had been vetted and approved. do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them suffered long term visible or psychological part rejection? do you think it's possible that asked me that probation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering? objection? the c, i a settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. no liability was admitted. world law and government will intensify the problem of the growing and then them the 2 of the common man. what we much to is to cl won't spread neither friendly nor unfriendly around does world in which we must at last take

final responsibility for ourselves. congress to ensure that in the fighting isis. and we continued to have all necessary power to detain terrace wherever we chase them down wherever we find them. and in many cases, for them, it will now be guantanamo bay. william program has been known that one on the move which could see it treble in population. what makes this issue important? quintile animal has become the calling cry. torture is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great. again.

the united states right now is one terrorist attacks away from re instituting torture. since the 1950s. we know these techniques have been used in afghanistan, argentina, australia, sonia, presented. british guy on the british come or me, canada, cuba, great britain. what a 100 iran, iraq. israel, if you a morocco, northern pockets don't the philippine pose. romania, thailand, turkey euro. why and i

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the, the, the, the you want to, we cannot seem to national in the headlines this sunday morning cobble is not the only major african city to resist the taliban. rapid advance as the insurgent group claims it sees the the key eastern city of july the bod. without a fight, there was on going through to find seeing what we could only stable fills and fled to cobble. there is no food and no water. these families have very worried because they have no idea what to do. many other families, also flood and living in bad conditions. develop his story now in from lebanon this morning at least 20 have died in a gas tanker explosion in the countries north prompting the former prime minister urged the president to resign. next, distressing.