i know they come with me, just a few questions, go whenever they're watching r t internationalists. kevin, oh, in here there's breaking news headlines this sunday. a lot of big stories around, but it's particularly i've gotten a sense interior minister pledging a peaceful transfer of power to a transitional government with the countries authorities reportedly entering for talks. as i speak with the taliban leadership. it comes to the militant groups around cob, ordering its fight is not to enter the capital is the very latest. it follows an intense week of rapid taliban set of advances as the militants sweat the country taking every major city. yes, mister surgeons began immediately after you. as president joe biden announced that american troops would be withdrawing back in april, while africa nationals have risked their lives assisting for

a military is now flee. a violent retaliation from their surgeon fell a bond, but the telephone is also saying this lunchtime, that it will not take revenge. it will not retaliate against these people will have to see. we speak to one forward translator who asked for his identity to be concealed. his and his family safety 1st from the believe that the telephone was down, every are going interpreter was served to partition american forces. it would be the african interpreters who paid the ultimate course. ah, hello, hello from out in to national will these center mosca this and they kevin oh in with you for full hour. can you go so much to tell you about this hour in the news? recap in the biggest stories of the week briefing and what's happening right now and as you heard,

afghan astound is the big break story. so the taliban has surrounded the african capital cobble in the last few hours, negotiations over a peaceful and over reportedly underway with the government. he comes shortly after the us special envoy to have gone on, asked liz, be let me not to enter that city. and it seems they've taken heed of that advice. the let me re cut per quickly for you how things are unfolded throughout the week 1st on 1st, the taliban started in separation on the country, 2nd largest city canada hub. by the end of friday, the militants had taken herat the 3rd largest city and i've got to stand from saturday to sunday. another of their in the north, missouri sharif also fell to the insurgents. and the news, the crucial news on sunday about the taliban circling around entering the outskirts of that key city. the prize for them july le bad, emerging,

and then the country's capital kabul surrounded today, the news, the sour it means the medicine effects will be control every major city in the country. following a rapid and decisive offensive. the tell about no reported controls every board post across the country and the only way to get out of a kind of stand is through the heavily defended cobble airport. i was keeping track on that just last hour. of course, america telling its citizens in the last few days that they have to use commercial transport. it didn't appear that anything special was being laid on for them. done about the diplomats, but certainly other americans and affiliates working they're saying use the 1st commercial plains out of that place if you can, if you can't afford it, they said we'll give you a loan. i'm a soldier visa, said as quickly as possible, whether everyone was able to get out. we were singing earlier on. she knew helicopters coming in and out. got some pictures from the diplomatic court. this thing she nukes, pretty busy must say russia big news,

this russia saying it is not doing anything with its constant stuff that they're all staying in tub. all russia pretty happy still to be there. i'm looking at the airport earlier on. there's not much traffic, couple of american plains of come in and gone out and there are 2 holding. anyway, that's the only way out of afghanistan. cobble at the moment, the airport show, but not jeff is odd. there is a local journalist in car bull. i asked him what was going on. he's got the latest one because the problem was the problem is that a lot of response people, if you ever thought of on a call without it because supplement, lots of could be happening. lots of people could be killed. one day, a lot of houses or government government buildings would be real good be alluded. that's why the local government and political parties on the installation

fee goes in color red. important to try to prevent from entering off the telephone, go to cobble because it is an important key. lots of people living here. we don't want to to destroy the call if you would 5 think that's what problem to be found. although the government with a political sort them another military officer. yes. really, i'm certain time for anyone living in car bullet the most, especially for a journalist, but we've been trying to get as many people on the ground as they possibly can, which will continue to do all afternoon. i spoke as well in cobbled to another local journalists powers sub a wound. the pupils have well, you know, because of there's always no fees. and i love situation as the solid on capturing the. busy big cities such as come to my city, why the color guard into the reaction cover? 51 bit. they don't. they don't want to give up to the level so

then don't was thought of on and car was i myself, i'm afraid. and as well as the pupil enough get some are afraid because of the carla as they are so near to that car will see there is no any support from the government offices yet about the can jermel s. so we are worry about, or that was with national news news, the genesis and with, with, with, with other like lawyer fees and other. this can be done by others. so i'm very people early fled to the upcoming capital, desperately seeking shelter off to fleeing the other parts of the country and the taliban. advance what their fates going to be. nowhere in the taliban saying there'll be no recriminations. they know face harsh living conditions, anyway, reports coming in the last day or 2, but an acute shortage of food and water mar,

shamela, came from the northern jo john province. there was ongoing, brutal fighting and we could only stable cells and fled to cobble with lead from the hero. proven due to have the fighting many other families also fled and live in in that conditions. if dissertation continues like this in afghanistan, they want us to return. they should support us and give us weapons so we can defend our country as we have lost our family members during the case of war. now as african women, we should get weapons and fight with law. just come in, i want to cooperate it. want to hear from somebody else as well. but this is a pretty good source. i'm hearing now the latest and i've got to stand. we're talking about the they were talking about the power sharing, what will be opposing agreement negotiations for the taliban to go in with the minimum bloodshed talking to the government that was happening over the last hour or so. we're now hearing cobble to shift power to

a transitional administration. after the taliban entered the outskirts, i want to get that from somebody else though, but we will try and get the officially cleared off that they will be a transitional administration. but either which way it looks like things not looking good fresh. i've gone a f kinda stanza president and the official government. and it seems that the taliban didn't have too much resistance getting as far as they have into cobble this morning. they're not going all the way in. we've heard this some sporadic fighting. generally as far as i can see, it seems to be reasonably peaceful at the moment. the taliban were asked to hold back while some sort of agreement for them to move forward peacefully was broken. it looks. that is in the process of happening if it's not already happened. now back in july, you as president joe biden said, it was highly unlikely the telephone would over on the country. i wonder what he's saying this lunch time. the current situation shows those predictions what woefully

and accurate on his in put, try and connect that looks at the outcome of those 20 exhausting years of military adventures and death just pictured the timeframes really have a proper think about it. i was 12 when america sent its soldiers to again a stand for the taliban to be dealt with. for 20 years for 2 decades, washington was splashing exorbitant amounts of cash on this grand attempt to give the troubled central asian country a favor. coalition servicemen were dying even more way more local lives were lost. so what do we got now? 20 years versus what a couple or a few months in which the taliban research acted as a force, a step away from taking over the whole country pretty much me was

the mother myself and some people of the town car condos. and babylon provinces came here to the park. we have all fled to fighting. there is no food and no water. the family said very worried because they have no idea what to do. have been placed on telecom city. the telephone killed my son. they took all the belongings from my house and set fire to demonstrated me. but if you think all this is a huge surprise, which came out of nowhere. sorry, that's not really the case. right after the u. s. pull out announcement in april.

the taliban instantly proved it's not just ready to but they want full control and they're practically at the doorstep of capital control now. but at this point, the government there won't be able to rely on a helping hand from washington. african leaders have to come together. we lost thousands at last death and injury. thousands of american personnel got to fight for themselves. uncle sam is pulling out, but some of the troops have to stay or even be sent back to secure the likes of fleeing us. diplomats but watch out for the wording because according to washington, this is not an evacuation. this is not abandonment. this is not an evacuation. this is not the wholesale. busy withdrawl, what this is, is a reduction in the size of our civilian footprint. this is

a draw down of civilian americans 46 years after one of the most humiliating episode in the history of us overseas operations. the falling of south vietnam and the capital saigon. joe biden already had to answer questions about the vietnam defeat. flashbacks, you see any parallels between this withdraw and what happened to vietnam with some people feeling when the tale. yvonne is not this out in the north vietnamese army. they're not, they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. there's going to be no circumstance for you to see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the of the united states from afghanistan. this kind of confidence by the president has done little to convince those who have come up with lines that you can see right here. the journalists can smell a replay of saigon. the growing numbers of politicians turned critics of the gang

to send for. bob can't help drawing the unfortunate parallels either the latest news of a 3rd, the drop down into the embassy and a hasty deployment of military forces seem like preparations for the fall of couple better than biden's decisions have hurtling toward and even worse, equal to the humiliating fall of saigon in $975.00. we basically gave up on the african government, not just now, but all the way back to the start of these talks. what president biden did was to embrace it. he owns it, it was a huge foreign policy failure with general m, if occasions just show up 7 month into this administration, everything points to a complete collapse. anyway, the whole pull out may end up as an immense reputational issue for the biden administration, for the u. s as a whole, it's very likely to tarnish the entire 20 years of coalition presence. and again,

as dan, but take a moment to think of the price which the afghans are paying and are to pay. and the foreseeable future, the number of local displaced is set to reach 3500000 this year. war is war. the decimal will only keep on rising. the whole crisis puts neighboring countries in jeopardy. you just can't help asking the same question. what was all of it for these long and controversial, 20 years total failure? i think that there is any other way you can possibly measure. i mean the capacity when the soviet stuff that's going to sound and 9 can, can i meet the process? government did not collapsing in this way. in fact, it took some 2 years before any major cities fell to my job being was here is saying, major cities for the one off the other to have a taliban before we americans. i mean, for the laugh, which gives credit to compact things that shows how, how much less successful impact americans have been in building

a stable government. and i've kind of stamina. soviet say we didn't do a good job for clarity. the americans of failed did more thing. this is got less to do with the daughter of miss under estimation of the taliban. shang, as it is to do with underestimation of the will to fight the government forces. i mean, simply put government forces collapse. they've shown very little will to, to, to fight. and so it's really a moral problem when the government forces more than the strength of the taliban will news lines in more develop. but months we're hearing politically now u. k. parliament is going to be recalled. according to number 10 sources pros, jones is expected to seek a recall of parliament this week. some of recess of the moment to discuss the worsting situation in afghanistan. the taliban invented as we know the goods cobble is a massive evacuation of west and citizens, including u. k embassy stuff is one of the americans and officials is on the way. how would

you do that? well, i was some looking at just looking at like a radio $24.00, call him break and can take over after me brought this up earlier on tracking ok, what flights would come in and going out? i can see a few american that looks like commercial flights there at the moment, because don't get american told it citizens to get out using commercial craft. these are not live, these are latest pictures, recent pictures there. but let me just tracking flight radar. 24 at the moment. there was an air india flight. i'm not quite sure where that's going from delhi to carbo think it's turned run. a definitely can confirm the do by to cobble flight. is on its way back. it circled a big, boeing 7, triple 7. it's on its way back, the circle for about 45 minutes an hour on its way back to did buy. it didn't land in car ball. so that's not going to be taking anyone out of cobble or dropping anyone off. i thought that might be the case because of the security situation.

we're hearing that british and american troops will be brought into that very important because it's the only hub of cobble at the moment. but certainly looking on the ground that there won't be a flight coming in from to, by to take one out. and there are only a couple of planes that i can spot of the how many cars international airport. and by all accounts, they appear to be know the air india flight actually landed. i can see it on the runway. so there is a flight that got him from india to horrible. little a 320, nothing too big. but that might be a way out for some people should they choose to leave. should that be deemed to be a safe way to get out? of course in the coming is everybody hoping they'll be no gun fire? no shooting no fighting the taliban holding back as it stands at the moment waiting for the green light as oppose from the command is to go in. this is the price for them. the latest we're hearing to pro, magically as well. the african interior administer saying cobble will

shift power to a transitional administration. so it looks as if gunny, the afghanistan president and the government very beleaguered at the moment. have agreed to let the taliban in. well, maybe they didn't, maybe the agreement was made for them because taliban negotiators were heading to the presidential palace to prepare for a transfer of power that was within the hour. and also within the hour, the african president connie was in emergency talks with us special envoy collision as well. and the nato officials of course, uncertain future for him at the moment. certainly politically, but maybe personally as well or vote the taliban is saying they've had a reasonably easy ride. you could say at the moment they're saying they haven't met much resistance along the way. we had a representative talking to assist a chan,

lottie arabic, just yesterday. my colleague, customer what, what do you want? what do you see happening here while you're doing this one, the guy said, because people have had the last 20 years imposed on them enough. got to stand. this is the taliban line. by the way. maybe not from every i've got to start national or a couple national, but he's saying we're not meeting resistance picks because people want us back in power again. so as the u. s. lead lines withdraws africa, nationals who helped foreign troops. now for reprisals from the taliban again, the line coming in earlier on some government soldiers were saying they were worried. they are asking the taliban to not take it out of them, not show reprisals. one group of africa, suicide listed u. k. forces rallied on the streets of cobble just last friday, the money protection from the british government. maybe the calls were heard of $600.00 british troops with deployed that the safeguards u. k. nationals as they evacuated the capital,

as well as to support crucially the relocation of those former african stuff, which is something that we're very, very much gonna want to hear. coming up next, we speak to one interpreter who did worked for the british and american forces. he asked, remain anonymous. such was his fear of fear for his life. my family has listed to it's in the post sometime my sam be home was attacked twice. my father has been given warnings and threats many, many times my. my dad's name was called that his life will be severely at risk because she offered no one but 2 of her sons against the eternal. recently, one of the interpreter, his father was caught in a province. he was beaten very badly. and he was asked to ask his son, who, who is an interpreter, to come in, trace the it should be

a cause of detail of recently what years and years or stems enough kind of tracing risk and benches. however, you could government instead of serving deadlines, bringing them to live in peace and safety with their kids or they are making excuses and new conditions put in place only to reject their cases call. i'm hearing from mike leeks is the big cases have been rejected, rejected. there was a number of cases which were told, but they were good to go. they were even given in there was sent an email confirming that when they were ready for the flights, they told me that they can re, to, to, to the you, to my brother, book office wanted to for the coalition forces. my brothers still enough to understand the british government is making

a false accusations and excuses to withhold. not only my brothers visa, but many interpreters who genuinely need the british governments help and ot up to a very high risk or strongly believe that the taliban will hot down every or an interpreter who's. so if the partition american forces, it will be the african interpreters or who paid the ultimate force news lines, a covenant thick and fast. for me to tell you, thank you for using us as your source for news this this day. so this is big news by graham air base into you know, we've heard about that so many times over the years of my background base. well, we're now in the last 3 minutes, a p reporting, an african official saying forces at bag gram airbase home to prison housing 5000 inmates have surrendered to the taliban. says government troops have given in there

and they've surrendered by graham base to the taliban. that base again is home to a prison housing, $5000.00 inmates, including both taliban and islamic state, insurgence. now, after recent events, the year and his warning, nearly $400000.00 civilians have had to leave their homes. and i've got to stop since the start of the year with a huge since may many fled to cobble hoping for a safe haven their what future is that for them at the moment remains to be seen. the taliban encircling the place. it looks like will be a transition of power, some sort of transitional government over that's going to work. and we're also hearing as well as i was telling you just now this pretty much no flights in and out about apple. we just saw a big emerett flight. try to get a, went back again, a 777, many fled to cobble them to say, hoping for safe haven there. but the heart wrenched the stories they brought with them. here are some more. i have been just from telecom,

the telephone killed my son just because of all the belongings from my house to them. and the punch me in the mouth causing my teeth to fall out. they demanded my son, and i told them that she's a school teacher, so she recently became a teacher and had not even received her salary. had a cautious, broken, taken hostage of the fighting, went on for 7 days. but we couldn't go outside until we managed to escape, and now we cannot use those display stuff. guns taken a solid may not be the welcome in the europe though we brought your report on this and the way the blog currently at loggerheads big time of what to do with migrants and those leading violence policy, it was across this one. she del, deeper into what happened to europe's previously open door policy. your opinion is less than what to do with african refugees seeking. assigned them. in the letter to the european commission, civil countries insisted they have the right to forcibly support those whose cases

have been rejected. they vote that not to deport them, would motivate war refugees, to flee to europe. we would like to highlight the edge of need to perform returns both voluntary and non voluntary, to afghan, a stan stopping return, send the wrong signal, and it's likely to motivate even more afghan citizen to leave the home for the e u. the situation in afghanistan is deterioration by the all when it comes as a us and nato prepaid to what's called a truth, that the end of the month after decades is on. the situation is so bad that the netherlands, germany, and france have decided to cause the deportation to be for now. the situation in afghanistan is likely to change and events for the coming period are so uncertain that i have decided to introduce more atoria on debt, partition decisions and departures. agree or stress belgian and denmark standing

firm. they want the rejected assign them because the e u. is not really and does not have the capacity to kind of another major migration crisis. why your guns are waiting make up around, tend to sit and on asylum seekers there. the 2nd largest group off the syrians and for a continent still scarred by the migration crisis of 56 years ago. there was a feeling of a feeling of having been they before. and has your opinions worried. they might be on the verge of a fish refugee crisis. those people who are here from a gun is done, they're not my, they're in a few gees and asylum seeker. and that is why it is very important to remember at all best in countries have signed humor, right, convention refugee convention. and they are duty bound to has anyone,

not only of guns, but syrians are anybody who come to the, to their country? and as far as them, because you are who are in the country, are any conflict personnel tend to to the life? so i think than the western countries say, oh, we don't care if you go home or you do for them. i think this is a violation of human rights and we should do that kind of thing. let's get more reaction law and get throughout the day here to keep you fully posted and give you a 1st time force by what's happening here. kevin hurley can do just that. he's a former senior police officer reservists, army officer who has worked twice to to isn't gonna stand. and he's also been a security advisor to the u. n. so sir, thanks to make the time for us today. so much to talk to about your to to is there . are you surprised how fast the taliban took control or no?

well, no. contract only finished on august the 3rd, so i've been complete. spade rewards going on, the books on line, and this is the problem with us going to stall for 20 years. the international community failed to deal with in demick corruption with it within effectively what is the government that was set up? and i hoped that by putting massive amounts of money into training and developing a now may i release bulls because the police force cavity are still the only 300000. i will be able to think. yeah, they would be. did you hear me there? yeah, i just woke up for a minute carol, i hope was putting massive amounts of money in training into an army and police force of 300000. because the police are effectively fighting soldiers like the army . and in fact until races the were taking double the casualty right?

10000 last year as opposed to $5000.00 in the army and building up one of the largest non forces in the world. they still do work, but the problem with his because of the corruption, there was no moral component amongst either the police all the all me to continue the fight. and with the exception of police special forces, an army special forces, road parking overnight, which is completely predictable. so we will, will fly to corrupt. right. but, you know, you can trace this back necessarily this year when joe biden said ok, troops have being pulled. that was at the dawning moment. i'm going to show to the us administration, trump before him knew that they're not when when did they know that this was working? the dawning moment was many, many years ago. it was quite clear. there's not much money's been faith, but how many live have been lost since then?

do to tell them to 2010 and we knew it was it. we knew very well it was working because in demik corruption when john 2 trillion dollars has been put into it, who knows how many lives. busy have been lost in regard of the gods, but the night forces amongst themselves with a loss of the odor of 30024000 killed. i can't remember the exact mare american figures, of course drupal that we people have been seriously injured. it comes down to the fact that they were not nice. i mean we, the west, the rest of the world were not prepared to deal with the issues of trying to impose a corrupt government on a country where.