[000:00:00;00] ah, ah, breaking news, some day chaos on pot. i can ask john capital is to ton about to see just combo with residents now being the city on the afghan president, please the country and reported me quit leaving the country in pieces. i'll go board, you've tried to secure a pizza, deal with the taliban leader said it's a mess. it was such and such a place that i mean to the all, to a pull out put by the us president of the american troops would withdraw. meaning the 2 decades off to washington, post the country into war depends upon leaving, desperate sits than face to face with the militant once again.

the welcome taught him to national where walk to bring you all the very latest every out the day this sunday, of course, the main story, the on ruffling situation in afghanistan. let's jump in as taliban fighters and to the presidential patterson, the capital cobble. the president has fled the country and panik house in gold, the streets of the city, the as the most groups ordered it forces to enter the capital to quote, prevent lou thing and violence. westcan law enforcement fees. the theme i'm verified for to talk to nathan online shows people throwing rocks up security officers leaving cobble without appoint a cost. you have seen him pace than 9 pm. the medicine claim, they will soon declare the islamic of chemist on this figure right here purports to show inmates released by the taliban from the country's largest jail. they also sees fraud from military prison located to just 25 kilometers north of the capitol

. reports claim that $5000.00 convicts was free mostly on fighters, of course, ready to join the assault. ah, it will be happening all day. meanwhile, residents of cobbler fleeing the city in huge numbers. hundreds of cars, all stock in traffic jams with some locals, even running away that have been massive cues at banks as people try to take out money before they leave. well, i want to bring in now ask john, let's show you, not just his odd. welcome to the program. now the 1st thing we just saw, the job, the massive trusting jobs people that desperately trying to leave the city. i want to ask you someone who's obviously on the ground, how's the situation and now that the coffees in force has not brought a bit of calm to the city. well,

last night several keys in the neighboring of copying the control of it from falling to the taliban, han stuff, people the way they woke up in the morning. they were not aware that the ton of an older already went there has to talk about all of our already and they are, they have the gene and i'll get a hobbles every people, every people they will, i did, they came out and i went to the barn too much money because they didn't know that how to wait on, you know, was a big rush. people or greg for one side to other side of problem. some people who are living up on the road to the airport would love to lose lots of traffic, jump to order a but now the color bomb interact with the cobblins this evening. in fact, they didn't want to talk to the teacher because they wanted to have a political settlement before the winter to go to the g. but hot water we, you also have reports that our president suite from cobbled. there wasn't any

political settlement. that's why the column said that they would probably do because that have been reported by some edit sponsible fight as a whole just and that's why even a thought about in touch with the big touch of all the police district of the g. now the cotton patch, what even different areas of cobble we are hearing, the voice of the bike that you're putting from our area just before but some of the pilot bonds that you will on the job in the research. and it said that the big learn pete, all of it in but for me, but these compounds in couple of diplomatic areas on the international yours that just a cute you will get protected by the time of somebody fighters and they will be stay what i want to ask you also about carpool apple. now it seems that all flights have

been shut down that only military croft is allowed to land. that will reports of shuttling, dip come up, flying out, of course on math. is there any update on what's happening now? what do you need some flight this off to me, but from this problem? yes, because there are every quickly, from diplomatic off problems to the airport. that's why we are hearing a device off the top or fly from the diplomatic area of public airport. yes. because at 4 in the default that they are based in public, it was written from public. that's why you have only the military military applied to the, at the airport to william flights down for, for now. i also want to ask you, of course we're talking about the ton about coming in, but how the people feeling have you spoken to anyone?

what's the reaction to, for example, president connie fleeing and generate what's the atmosphere on the streets? is that not a fair at the moment? well, people don't really are very angry on the penny because he was the leader of the country and keep the country left the people alone. while we knew that he was a corrupt for a, we're never going to come for ever. and people are happy that the, that there is some, it came with the new faith that they are very people that people say that that are very good. they are not 20 years back kind of bonds. they are here. you have a very good behavior. and with that, with the people i for 11 or 2 people. that the tunnel enter to that area. the columns came and gives you a number to the people that we are the predictor of the people. if you have any

problem with any response to both fighters or full just should cause a good number, we will become, will come and support you. and also it's all about different areas. if you did the context of the people of the people that if you will, they will find that problem. they should contact them soon. that good again, a good, a good i got assigned for the people have problems. what i want to also ask you the news literally just coming and reports from eye witnesses that, that were too very strong. last, near the american embassy in kabul on the presidential palace. obviously we're going to wait to see what happens if there were any faith. how does he hopefully not, i want to ask you though in terms of violence throughout the city. do you think that we all going to see move on as the taliban continues to move in through couple was called about and so now they have the control of the government officials,

governors on the people that have done is done on governance or running a country with a case that was aggressive actions will not take place. the title of an all know the owner of this, that there is an administration entry the are leading just simply addition. i don't think that there will be there will be a problem for the they are the brother of the call about, you know, all from one and 3. i don't think that to tell about this, where we have a box behavior with the people of the country that the people of cobble, i think people will be good and people will have a good life with the taliban. and the final thing i want to ask you is are moving forward. now there are of course piece processes going on and go call for example. what do you think it's going to happen that i think the piece process is that has been felt. it doesn't make sense now to have a piece,

the process process for what the country completely fall into detail about how we to we should make a piece. i think all of this process, all this process completely failed. it doesn't make sense now at the country come under control of the climate, the martha from the dentist. no, i know to have a problem with the color bonds. i tell you that that the peace process doesn't make that meaning now. well, i hope, of course, that the citizens of afghanistan do get piece, floods out through the process or not. but we appreciate you coming on and giving your insight of the valuable because you've gotten sick of it. that was off count john. it's not just his order. thank you very much. while i do want to have now a quick recap of how things have been unfolding throughout the week, how we got to this point. so the areas in red which is pretty much the entire country. all taliban controlled territories. now the how did all start with us on thursday?

the taliban intensify this operation in the countries 2nd largest city of kandahar that's down that in the south. you can see that moving on a day later, by the end of friday, the militants have taken her up over in the west. that's the 3rd largest city and i've gone to stone. and then from south say to sunday all started developing so quickly. another area a bit higher, our mazda is shy reef fell to the insurgents. then, of course, on sunday, this was the news that really grabbed headlines. the fuss news about the taliban entering and the keys to teach a lot about followed by those supports that it is surrounding the capitol. right? that that is the only non red part on the map. if you can see, while what this now means is that the medicines effectively control almost every single province in the country following a rapid and very decisive offensive. so the telephone ramped off it's offensive just for back story and 8 pro following to biden's announcement that he was pulling out american troops at the time. the islamist group held less than

a 5th 19 percent of the country territory. look at how that's going up now. 75. i think it's a very conservative estimate. it says that it controls the whole country. well, the former african deputy minister of borders and tribal affairs says, rule forties on the people must now unite for peace, helped by the international community. situation is changing our by our, in the start when the, their totally want to talk the district of gun on the or was some sort of what is this difference or national resistance against them. but when they took here are kind of hard big cities. and also right now they strong paul gulf the north of guns done. now it seems the idea is that some sort of peaceful transition and understand what the people are going to son. and once it's clear because the public hoping enough people have done is done is clear for everybody and the, the legitimate to me, to of that under of power in the inferior china. i'm going to fun about what

happened now is the tuition that is not in control of guns, actually the war was not a gun war. it was a proxy warning, i've done it, and i hope that guns will come together in the 1st time in 40 years. i've done said together in high enough of the way the efforts of russia, united states and other countries. and also the region must come to a consensus to establish solar in neutral, inclusive government enough to understand because they've gotten this done as a heart official, will be today for the region in the international community as well. right now, what's important that the blood of the young blood, those guns must be stopped in the transition, must go smoothly. and it is, i think the responsibility of what sites in the people themselves to stay home and also to prevent looting. gravity and destruction of intra fraction of done is done,

which was conduct the sun to another after. and i hope that the leaders have started one in the leaders of the government will understand the situation and will think about the people are going on, especially the display people of a gun is done in enough is in, in to stop the bloodshed dog. i'm going to sun people which are waiting for for years. well, these are recent pictures from couple where dip him out from various countries are waiting flights to quite literally escape of kind of stone. nato full says up the site, ensuring the safe, i thought creation of foreign citizens. the u. s. embassy and couple has taken down 1000 stripe, self install for transport to transfer to the airport. reports are coming in also of too powerful explosions, one near the presidential part of the 2nd at the american embassy. well, that's cross live now to new york, so he's caleb moore, pen, kayla stateside. what's been the reaction,

as of course the situation off danced on. so rapidly on ruffles. well, at this point, the u. s. embassy. cobble is been taken down, the flag taken down, the embassy is evacuated, the staff is at the airport. they were ordered to burn sensitive documents before they departed. and now many voices are comparing this to the situation in 1975. that name is photograph of the helicopter. at the u. s. embassy in saigon, they listen. the mitigated disaster enough can install the shameful saigon, like abandonment of cobalt, the brutalization of african women. and the slaughter of our allies is the predictable outcome of the trump biden doctrine of weakness. now, republican senator ben sas also said the united states would regret its actions in afghanistan. and that this would hurt the international community. and it wouldn't weaken the alliances of the united states around the world. however, anthony,

blinking the u. s. secretary of state does not agree. he said that he said basically that cobble is not saigon. and that is quite interesting because that famous photograph from saigon and $975.00 to place 29 months after the united states ad folded military out of vietnam. that's how long the 1000 vietnamese government held out. but in this situation, the us military is still on the ground in afghanistan, and they're already evacuating the embassy. so quite a little bit of difference there. it's also important to note that anthony blank in the u. s. secretary of state said that the united states had achieved its goals in our ganeth dance, and that because the terrors responsible for 911 were apprehended and killed, i had had achieved its golden and had been successful in the country. now it's important to note that the terrorists responsible for 911 were largely from saudi arabia. they were not afghan. furthermore,

osama been lot and was killed in pakistan, not in afghanistan, so quite interesting. but lincoln is satisfied with the u. s. mission after 18 year years that we succeeded in achieving those fundamental objectives and the idea that we would sign up for remaining there in the midst of a civil war for another $510.00 or 20 years, was simply not in the national interest. now at this point, it's worth noting that it's done, the embassy flag has been taken down, the staff is evacuation. part of the reason they were scrambling is they believe they had 6 to 12 months to wrap up their operations in afghanistan. and it turned out they really only had 3, and it appears that us leaders and the information they had may not have been very accurate. just 2 days ago, the pentagon informed the public that there was no threat to cobble. this is what was said. always not right now in an

imminent threat environment. but clearly if you just look at what the taliban has been doing, you can see that they are trying to isolate cobble. now there are reports that more troops may be sent the country in order to ensure the safe vacuum of american, but as far as protecting afghans the white house says that is not in the interest of the united states at this time. well, 20 years and this is how it and bring down the flag and the total pay off. that was kind of more pedant reporting from new york. i'm sure we're getting back to you about a shawn. in the meantime, professor of strategic studies salma malick says the washington is broken, its promises to the country and abandoned its citizens. when americans had naught or the western capitals, had not really engaged the elephant in the room. and that they had kind of wished to do. we're for 20 years about development of back impact to find some food di and

the security forces inside of on the sand were not good. they were still very green in their preparation and the americans knew it. the western powers knew it, but just because there had been a lot of investment on the ground by the americans and american waters were demanding as to why. so many of the american troops was still pledged in our fathers found that the us had to make the strong plus the fact that they did not have anything now to offer to the farm leadership or to the upon people. they had tried all types of experiments and those experiments had not worked here this time . they were the direct stakeholders. and yet despite the month of reintegration reconstruction reforming upon society, politics, security forces, nothing is really strong enough to started got ground. while we're winding about back in 2001 and then us president george

w bush insisted not the taliban regime was on its last legs more recent into bite and said it was highly unlikely. the taliban would overwhelm the country on autism . katrinka asked how american leaders could have got it so sorry, wrong just pictured the timeframes really have a proper think about it. i was 12 when americans sent its soldiers to again stand for the taliban to be dealt with. for 20 years, for 2 decades, washington was splashing exorbitant amounts of cash on this grand attempt to give the troubled central asian country a failure. coalition servicemen were dying even more way more local lives were lost. so what do we got now? 20 years versus what a couple or a few months in which the taliban respected as a force,

a step away from taking over the whole country pretty much. use the mother myself and some people of the town car condos, and babylon provinces came here to the park. we have all fled to fi chain. there is no food and no water. the families have very worried because they have no idea what to do. have been displaced from ta, comes to the telephone, killed my son. they took all the belongings from my house and set fire to them and transferred me

but if you think all this is a huge surprise, which came out of nowhere. sorry, that's not really the case. right after the u. s. pull out announcement in april. the taliban instantly proved it's not just ready to but they want full control. and now very big news. they have entered the capital capital. but even at this point, again, a stance besieged government isn't able to rely on a helping hand from washington. african leaders have to come together. we lost thousands at last death and injury. thousands of american personnel got a fight for themselves. uncle sam is pulling out, but some of the troops have to stay or even be sent back to secure the likes of fleeing us. diplomats but watch out for the wording because according to washington, this is not an evacuation. this is not abandonment. this is not an evacuation.

this is not the wholesale. busy withdrawl, what this is, is a reduction in the size of our civilian footprint. this is a draw down of civilian americans 46 years after one of the most humiliating episode in the history of us overseas operations. the falling of south vietnam and the capital saigon. joe biden already had to answer questions about the vietnam defeat. flashbacks, you see any parallels between this withdraw and what happened vietnam with some people feeling what? 0 the tale. vaughn is not this out in the north vietnamese army. they're not, they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. there's going to be no circumstance for you to see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the of the united states from afghanistan. this kind of confidence by

the president has done little to convince those who have come up with lines that you can see right here. the journalists can smell a replay of saigon, the growing numbers of politicians turned critics of the of ghana stand for bob. can't help drawing the unfortunate parallels either the latest news or the 3rd, the drop down, and our embassy and a hasty deployment of military forces seem like preparations for the full of couple president biden's decisions have a hurtling toward and even worse, equal to the humility. come full of saigon in 975 were basically gave up on the african government, not just now, but all the way back to the start of these talks. what president biden did was to embrace it. he owns it, it was a huge foreign policy failure with general arm if occasions to sheriff 7 month into this administration. everything points to complete collapse. anyway. the whole pull out may end up as an immense reputational issue for the biden administration,

for the u. s. as a whole, it's very likely to tarnish the entire 20 years of coalition presence. and again, it's dan. but take a moment to think of the price which the afghans are paying and are to pay. and the foreseeable future, the number of locals displaced is set to reach 3500000 this year. war is war. the decimal will only keep on rising. the whole crisis puts neighboring countries in jeopardy. you just can't help asking the same question. what was all of it for these long and controversial, 20 years total failure? i think that there is any other way you can possibly measure by means of compassion when the soviet stuff that's going to sound in one connection. i need the pro civic government did not collapse in this way. in fact, it took from 2 years before any major cities fell to my job was here was saying, major cities pulling one off to the other 2 to the taliban before the americans

have been for the left, which gives credit to compact things. it shows how, how much less successful impact americans have been in building a stable governance. and i've kind of stamina service. one say we didn't exactly do a good job there for clarity, the americans have failed dismally. i think this is got less to do with the daughter of miss underestimation of the taliban shying as it is to do with an under estimation of the will to fight the government forces. i mean, simply put the government forces collapse. they've shown very little will to, to, to fight. and so it's really a moral problem when the government forces more than the strength of the taliban anti war. campaigners have long lambasted the us for occupying afghanistan in the 1st place, wasting millions of dollars and costing countless lives, but can stern from hamilton coalition to stop the war says that there are also watching the withdrawal itself. washington,

this did miscalculate and scramble to increase troop levels to compensate for that, the u. s. should never have been and nato should never have been in afghanistan in the 1st place. this was a unilateral and illegal invasion and occupation that took place without the approval of the un security council. now today, the united states and staging a withdrawal retreat from afghanistan and they're doing it in a unilateral fashion. again, they didn't use the help that they could have called upon from russia, china, india, iran, and pakistan. those regional and, and asian powers to organize an orderly withdrawal. and the creation of a stable government in kabul, that one that might have been a government of national unity or a power sharing arrangement or coalition government. instead,

the u. s. deliberately left a mass and as the u. s. latter lives withdraws africa national to help foreign troops and outfit reprisals from the tut. upon one group off down to assisted u. k. forces riley on the streets of cobble on friday, demanding protection from the british government. and perhaps that cool, 150600 british troops have been deployed that to safeguards u. k. nationals, i'll say evacuate from the capitol as well as supporting the relocation of former. i found off, but not everyone has been included with one for went up to painting directly with britain's prime minister to get him out. he says he now lives in fair many days and day denied on that time. i'm staying issue. i cannot go. the situation is just for me. you know i,

i would probably be getting the same email to me. you are eligible for the game on that time. i will be happy to do my fin the my job in the you want to give me the problem. it's the one that means you must to give you. you have to finish up by january and you must to get the new for of like to reach me by mistake and you are not out in the future. you mean, you mean you can do that either. you mean in the email you're viewed it

by in the email i found it was emailed to me. you are you want anybody that you did or not? that just is a problem. you know, i mean the immigration, you'll suspect her another topic who walked for both british on american forces. he needs us to remain anonymous out of his life. my family has received threats. in the past some time my sam be home was attacked twice. my father has been given warnings and threats many, many times my. my dad's name was called that his life will be severely at risk because he offered not one but 2 of the sons against the italian. recently, one of the interpreter, his father was caught in bacteria

a province. he was beaten very badly. and he was asked to ask his son, who is an interpreter to come and chase the issue, the cause of the taliban in the past year. and so a number of interpreters have been appealed or targeted by the taliban. recently, one of the interpreter who used to be an interpreter for the american special forces was assassinated by the telephone. of course they will be coming off to them . they'll be coming off to their families and those interpreters. so there will be but sure there will be different. americans have gone away versus going away. everybody is running away. who are they leaving behind the interpreters who have served for years and years. and i've got some tracing briskin benches. however, the you get government instead of saving the lives,