the breaking news at this sunday the town abound says it sees all john government and tv headquarters off to the president, please the country and quit leaving the state in the tail. some kind of can. you can capitalize the taliban in to cobble with resident. seeing the city on my us arch 5 to 8 embassy walkers, with scenes of helicopters flying in for desperate stop reminiscent comics escape from vietnam less than 5 decades ago. the welcome to r t and national. and while the sunday all eyes on afghanistan as the situation that continues to rapidly unravel. well, getting started. what's happening?

taliban fighters have entered the presidential patterson, the ass down capital kabul with president nash. russ gone, the leaving the country and resigning the military claim. they now control government and broadcast headquarters and will soon decline. and islamic, i'm written over the counter on a representative of the group. still considered terrorist by many states has already addressed the nation with the delivery is going to diplomatic institutions that function properly for the past 20 years should continue to function as a representative of the afghan people. i ask you to continue your work and to establish diplomatic relations with the afghan people, the process of power transition if peaceful, land ongoing. my great request to the people of couple is to come to their workplace is open markets and shops. local and international organizations are requested to continue their activities as long suffering people are solely needed.

yes, i must group it for says to enter the capital to quote, prevent new thing in file and last can lorne for you to seen on verify to footage start placing on line shows people throwing rocks out security of his leaving cargo without a fight at 9 p. m, because you came in and remains in place when the cobble residents have been flames. city and huge numbers throughout the day. hundreds of cause was stuck in traffic. johnson, some local, even wanting away. that had been massive keys buying since people tried to take out the money before they flee my gotten on the unfolding crisis from a local john of the several in the neighboring of trough. i've got it from father to the top one hand people when they woke up in the morning, they were not aware that the ton of an older, already went to talk about are already in the sci fi. and they are,

they have the gene and instead of hobbles, every people, every people, they will, i did, they came out and i went to the barn too much money because they didn't know that. how great on there was a big rush. people are going for one other side of problems and people who are living up on the road to the airport was completely loose, and lots of traffic jumped towards a bus. now, the toddler, barnes, with the cobbler, any big captain, all the police district of the g. now that kind of a pattern, even different areas of cobble, we are hearing the voice of the bike that you're putting from our area just before. but some of the pilot buttons on the job in the return, my director said that that big, i keep all of it in. but remember,

these compounds in a couple of diplomatic areas on the international yours, that just a cute you will be protected by the thought of somebody fighters. and they will be saying, there are of course piece processes going on and don't call for example. what do you think is going to happen that i think the process is that has been felt. it doesn't make sense now to have a piece the process process for what the country completely fall into the top on how the taliban ramp top it's offensive in april. this is the back story following cho biden's announcement that he was putting out american troops. you're going to see here on this graphic in moments they've gone from a week positions and 19 percent to controlling the almost the entire country. that's called the last city for. let's take a look at how those events unfold. it the

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this video right here support to show inmate released by the ton of from the country's largest jail. they also see a background military prison located to just 25 kilometers north of the capitol report claim about 5000 convicts were set free, mostly upon fighters, ready to join us hope and this joy has such a thing online shows the tunnel on setting up a roadblock between gelata pod kabul people driving through reportedly being checked the documents with man without a beard being off. if stay on most memory i want to bring in now history and international relations professor jamal, walk him good to have you on the program. the 1st thing i want to ask you, we've heard now from a representative of the town, bon and he said people go back to walk, open up the mall, kids we want life to be normal again. but i mean, it's not normal. is it? do you think that the taliban can restore peace, task honest on?

well 1st, gonna stand has not been in a normal situation for the past 4 decades. its been perpetual road since the late 19 seventies. so it's a country crisis. what extent can the pony bomb bus apply the country and re establish what the court or the i believe that they can enforce their will. but i believe that this will eliminate too many groups, but at the same time, the take over by the bond of gun is done is a clear preview all as to decades, american effort in the countries throughout the country. so this is, this is the, maybe the biggest, the feet of the us and it's longest war. of course, the west relations, the band will take over, but not as with,

as we saw them doing where negotiations in between the u. s. on the bond. because the u. s. wanted to pull out of this company because they no longer want this to get indicated and supporting the u. s. made government gun it's done in 2001, but they counted on 2 decades to give to this government. however, it turned out that it was the faith of governments that grumbled the moment the americans decided to withdraw their support. but at the same time, i believe that the american approach is a bit constant. it was i believe that they are planning as they could improve the country, they are planning to set. the company ablaze to put that in the state of ability

may be in isolation under the taliban. and at the same time source problems to its neighbors who butcher and china, especially that overlooks the weak points in the national security china, which is northwest china with the we go up at this moment to set the instability in central asia, which is the weak points and the russian national security of the same time to cause and somebody in iran. so i believe that this is the american approach that if we couldn't control the country, so let it be cause a problem for our enemies or our competitors. and they can and to be in afghanistan from a, from databases in the gulf states. and mainly the,

the persian gulf. you talk about the quote paper government. now we know that president connie was no longer president. he has resigned in a facebook post. why do you think washington wasn't able to create a long term stable government that would rule and control afghanistan in order 2 years to come? well, 1st and foremost, because there are people they do you as to be lived on where miracle level racers or employees and agencies, i remember the 1st of gun residents who got elected both of course, i mean i used to work as an employee for an american financial corporation, so they got their employees to run the country on their behalf, but these employees doesn't have grass roots from the

gun. the people regard this if they support the probably been or not. so they tried the same thing and you're not put example, and we so chaos the prevailing, any or long also. so this has been the, the american for me, law and trying to control countries throughout their history and various countries. and the moment they feel they could no longer sustain that position and that they would simply forsake their employees and the country to that destiny. so this is what they did, for example with them, but these that they supported, but then thank you. but the moment you could no longer resist the pressure of lucian or of the time they just put, take him and didn't even give him refuge in the us. he had to think in the

dominican republic, so i'm not comparing it the bond who goes through. so i finally got through the communist revolution and hugo. this is to draw comparison when american behavior, this the size of holocaust flying over the u. s. embassy and was very similar to the size of the helicopter u. s. helicopters over that embassy inside on $975.00. so this has been like it that edition for us on now they're leaving the country. they failed and that will end up going to son. yet. that's going to put this in the hands. i believe that they have or they had their hands in these developments and this take over an hour by barley, bon,

because the americans think that the taliban will be at all with the chinese to that he's with the russians. the not on the, with the iranians to the, to the west. they could overlook this guy. you spoke rhonda scales from in atlanta. and what i also want to find the ask you as far as johnson's one of the leaders, he spoke canal and he says that the west needs to work together, that i've got to start doesn't become a breeding ground for terror groups. what do you make of that comment? is it him trying to detach himself from everything that you can the us have done? i'm not she do you thing that i've got on will start harbouring insurgence? well, i believe that the, the case again is there much different from the funny bone of

the late 19 nineties and even the americans invaded afghanistan all week evidence even though that was implicated in the events of the of new york system. that 11. but they wanted to have a feedback to invade the company to directly give, want to get a gender that was again, mainly against the china against russia. and i guess the, at the time when there was a rise of additional duration voters in order to american doing the work, the european bodies, johnson has to worry. he needs to worry about local hot on, for example, who are closer than the yvonne in central asia. and at the same time, he needs to worry about the islamists, they sponsor the british sponsor for the past 9 decades since 19 twenties onward.

as part of their agenda to counter communism of the time they were the ones to sponsor. also, it's not just back in the 19 fifties and 960 again nationalist unless there's an imperialist groups in the world. so motors johnson, i believe he's a hypocrite. when he says this, he needs to worry about book hold on. we're also promoted by western follows directly or indirectly, especially by the united states in order to drive a wedge between northern africa and south africa. between the predominantly muslim africa and the not the african or christian africans in the country. so this is what he needs to worry about. if he's serious about it, he needs to stop sponsoring. it's not groups throughout the one.

they need to stop using them as a proxy group in directing policies against what they consider as enemies. like, like china, like even trying to use them as a pre rising detention and catch me by, by pushing the indians to the, the, where the road that the chinese will be to link that straight from west china to 14 and pakistan. so this is the u. s. on the west needs to do bond studying these natal event themselves were responsive by the us that they go over of 997 was to

lot the project of of building arose, leaking to june, the time to cover. so this is what has been even right before september 11, the funny bon representatives went enjoying the rights in texas and the fun. okay. george bush before becoming president. well, we appreciate you coming on to the program. it's always giving us your insight and opinion on this. that was what came professor of history on international relations . these are recent pictures from cobble apple. dip come up from various countries, are waiting flights to escape foss. dentist on nato forces, or at the site to ensure the safe, if activation for the parent can reportedly want to boost the number of personnel that to 6000. meanwhile, the us to stay and cobble has lowered the stalls. i'm striped off the staff who

transferred to caleb open in new york is following the american reaction as asked out of san well, the flag is down. the u. s. embassy is evacuated and the staff is at the cobble airport. and from what we understand, they were ordered to burn sensitive documents before leaving the embassy. and now the voices are comparing the situation and cobble to the situation in saigon in 1975. the famous photograph of the us helicopter, pulling out as the government of south vietnam bell. well, here's some of what's been said, the mitigated disaster enough. again, histone the shameful, saigon, like abandonment of cobalt. the brutalization of african women. and the slaughter of our allies is the predictable outcome of the trump biden doctrine of weakness. now, republican senator ben sas also said the united states would regret its actions and ask dana dan. and that this would hurt the international community and it would

weaken the alliances of the united states around the world. however, anthony blanket and the u. s. secretary of state does not agree. he said that he said basically that cobble is not signed on. and that is quite interesting because quite a little bit of difference there. lincoln said that the united states had achieved its goals. and i guess, dan, and that because of the terrorists, responsible for 911 were apprehended and killed. i hit add, achieved its golden and had been successful in the country. now it's important to note that the terrorist responsible for 911 were largely from saudi arabia. they were not afghan. furthermore, osama been lot and was killed in pakistan, not in afghanistan. so quite interesting, but lincoln is satisfied with the u. s. mission after 18 year. here's ways that we succeeded in achieving those fundamental objectives and the idea that we would sign up for remaining there in the midst of a civil war for another 510 or 20 years,

was simply not in the national interest. now part of the reason there's a just scramble is the us estimate about how long it would take the taliban to retake the country. seemed to have been changing at one point, they thought they had 6 months or 12 months. at one point they thought the a 90 day. then even as recently as 2 days ago, they were saying there was no threat to cobble. here's what was said by a representative of the pentagon. always not right now in an imminent threat environment. but clearly, if you just look at what the taliban has been doing, you can see that they are trying to isolate cobble. now there's talk more troops being sent. ap ganeth them to oversee the evacuation of us citizens. but as far as protecting afghans the white house has made clear, they do not feel that is in the interest of the united states at this time. and he war campaign a sub long land pastor, the u. s. for supplying afghanistan,

wasting billions of dollars and costing countless lives, but can stern from the hamilton coalition to stop the war says there are also watching the withdrawal washington this did miscalculate and it scrambled to increased troop levels. to compensate for that, the u. s. should never have been, and nato should never have been in afghanistan in the 1st place. this was a unilateral and illegal invasion and occupation that took place without the approval of the un security council. now today, the united states of staging a withdrawal, a retreat from afghanistan, and they're doing it in a unilateral fashion. again, they didn't use the help that they could have called upon from russia, china, india, iran and pakistan. and those regional and, and asian powers to organize an orderly withdrawal and the

creation of a stable government in kabul. that one that might have been a government of national unity or a power sharing arrangement or coalition government. instead, the u. s. deliberately left mass back in 2001 then us president george w bush insisted that the taliban regime was on its last legs more recent. joe biden said it was highly unlikely the taliban would over on the country next top. and you have a trend. gloss how america's leaders of got it so wrong. just pictured the timeframes really have a proper think about it. i was 12 when americans sent its soldiers to again and stand for the taliban to be dealt with for 20 years for 2 decades. washington was splashing exorbitant amounts of cash on this grand attempt to give the troubled central asian country a favor. coalition servicemen were dying even more way more local lives were

lost. so what do we got now? 20 years versus what a couple or a few months in which the taliban respected as a force, a step away from taking over the whole country. pretty much me saying the mother, myself and some people of the town car, condos, and babylon probably came here to the park. we have all fled. there is no food and no water in the family. very worried because they have no idea what to do. have been displaced from telecoms to the telephone, killed my stock. they took all the belongings from my house and set fire to them as

transferred me. but if you think all this is a huge surprise, which came out of nowhere. sorry, that's not really the case. right. after the u. s. pull out announcement in april, the taliban instantly proved it's not just ready to but they want full control. and now very big news. they have entered the capital capital. but even at this point, again, a stance besieged government isn't able to rely on a helping hand from washington. african leaders have to come together. we lost thousands at last death and injury. thousands of american personnel got to fight for themselves. uncle sam is pulling out,

but some of the troops have to stay or even be sent back to secure the likes of fleeing us. diplomats but watch out for the wording because according to washington, this is not an evacuation. this is not abandonment. this is not an evacuation, this is not the wholesale. busy withdrawl, what this is, is a reduction in the size of our civilian footprint. this is a draw down of civilian americans 46 years after one of the most humiliating episodes in the history of us overseas operations. the falling of south vietnam and the capital saigon. joe biden already had to answer questions about the vietnam defeat. flashbacks, you see any parallels between this withdraw and what happened to vietnam with some people feeling when the tale. yvonne is not this out in the north vietnamese army.

they're not, they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. there's going to be no circumstance for you to see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the of the united states from afghanistan. this kind of confidence by the president has done little to convince those who have come up with lines that you can see right here. the journalists can smell a replay of saigon. the growing numbers of politicians turned critics of the of got to send for bob can't help drawing the unfortunate parallels either the latest news or the 3rd, the drop down, and our embassy and a hasty deployment of military forces seem like preparations for the full of couple president biden's decisions have a hurtling toward and even was equal to the humiliating full of saigon in $975.00 were basically gave up on the african government not just now, but all the way back to the start of these talks. what president biden did was to

embrace it, he owns it, it was a huge foreign policy failure with general m, if occasions just show up 7 month into this administration, everything points to a complete collapse. anyway, the whole pull out may end up as an immense reputational issue for the biden administration, for the u. s. as a whole, it's very likely to tarnish the entire 20 years of coalition presence. and again, as dan, but take a moment to think of the price which the afghans are paying and are to pay. and the foreseeable future, the number of local displaced is set to reach 3500000 this year. war is war. the decimal will only keep on rising. the whole crisis puts neighboring countries in jeopardy. you just can't help asking the same question. what was all of it for these long and controversial 20 years? total failure? i think that there is any other way you can possibly measure by means of capacity

when the soviet stuff going to 1900 can i meet the pro. soviet government did not collapsing in this way. in fact, it took some 2 years before any major cities fell to the majority being was here was saying, major cities pulling one off the other to have a taliban before the americans have been for the last which gives credit to compact things that shows how, how much less successful and button americans have been building a stable government and i've kind of stamina service one, the service didn't exactly do a good job there for clarity, the new americans have failed. this thing that has got less to do with the daughter of miss underestimation of the taliban shying as it is to do under estimation of the will to fight the government forces. i mean, simply put for government forces collapse, they've shown very little will to, to, to fight. and so it's really a moral problem when the government forces more than the strength of the taliban.

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