the ah, breaking news and the headlines this monday, the taliban said these are gun government buildings on tv, off of the president, police and quit leaving the country entail disarray and panic. a couple at boards with thousands crime to terminals in desperate search. fly 1000 closes in the united states, lois, it's embassy flag, and urgently evacuated workers, images are corpus whooping in for desperate off room. and some of its anxious escape from vietnam. less than 5 decades ago. the

i from oscar. thanks for joining us in our teams. and i love daniel hawkins, welcome to the program today where we're focusing of course, only ongoing situation in afghanistan with allies of the world on the capital kabul . well, a ton of bon now control the gun capital accept the airport. and these are the pictures from that particular spot where vacuum patient efforts on going thousands of people from the terminals and parking lots in desperate search of flight south a gunshot have occasionally been heard at the scene. when the meantime taliban fighters have seized the presidential palace in the i've gotten capital with president national, have gone a lead in the country and resigning the what doesn't group claim they will soon declare as non em or it's all up going to start a representative of the group still seen as a terrorist organization by many states, has already addressed the nation. good buddy, how i'm going to be double diplomatic institutions that

a function properly for the past 20 years should continue to function as a representative of the afghan people. i ask you to continue your work to establish diplomatic relations with the afghan people, the process of power transition if peaceful, land ongoing. my great request to the people of couple is to come to their workplace is open markets and shops. local and international organizations are requested to continue their activities as long suffering people solely needed. well, these are mist group only, all of his forces to enter the cap was all to prevent losing and violent. wind up and normal force would leave the same, and verified for circulating on line shows people throwing rocks that security off is leading, cobble without a fight. 9 pm curfew came into place and remains in force. when i had the couple residents have been fleeing the city in huge numbers throughout the day,

hundreds of cars were stuck in traffic jams with locals even running away on foots and massive cues formed outside part outside customers have been desperately trying to withdraw their life savings before fleeing showy notes, if he's either a local journalist reports on how the situation is unfolding and couple where the people de, woke up in the morning and they thought that it talked about already be and out of the call and get a plan to be able to call the people to rush away a day. we just went to the bank. so they went to the, to the market, to buy food. there was a lot of crowd of traffic people is just that you could, you saw the people who are in the car and the motor by, by food, they will not they were, they were out just to solve the problem. but in the afternoon with a ton of been in talk to the see the city look why there was no more more and more

people. the 1st people blame on their america. because the people are changing or people are staying. in fact have gone to 100 to a tyler bon one year ago when americans and dad talked about how i've got some hundreds over to, to the top of and from that time, american did not have a government gun. people always that lead to tell them to take the problem to lead to the got it from. they did not try to prevent the time for capturing and capturing of their 1st people playing on blending on america. and the 2nd people are blaming listed over a month, which was that lead by any of the taliban ramps up it's offensive. in april, following jo bought in its confirmation that he was pulling out american troops. as you can see on the graphic in just a month, the medical group has gone from a week position to controlling the entire country. this is how events unfolded.

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the this video allegedly shows in late spring really bought a taliban from the country's largest jail. there they also see the background military prison located just 25 kilometers north of the capitol. reports claim about $5000.00 convex was set free, mostly taliban fighters, ready to join the sold. and it's 40 so i can get you in line. so it's a ton of setting up a roadblock between roundabout uncalled bull. april driving through, reportedly being checked for documents with men without a beard being off if they're muslim. meanwhile, helicopters and planes were seen flying over the gun capital, as nato sought to ensure the safe evacuation of foreign citizens. u. s. embassy and the capital load it stars and stripes offer soft, transferred to the 4 hundreds of americans, several ready left the country. the pentagon has announced that will raise the

number of us troops and cobbled 6000 kayla moore when the new york is following the american reaction. as i've got to start on ralph, while the flag is down, the u. s. embassy is evacuated, and the staff is at the cobble airport. and from what we understand, they were ordered to burn sensitive documents before leaving the embassy. and now the voices are comparing the situation and cobble to the situation in saigon in 1975. but famous photograph of the us helicopter, pulling out as the government of south vietnam bell. well, here's some of what's been said. the mitigated disaster enough again is down the shameful saigon, like abandonment of cobalt. the brutalization of african women. and the slaughter of our allies is the predictable outcome of the trump biden doctrine of weakness. now republican senator ben sas also said the united states would regret it actions

and ask dana, stan, and that this would hurt the international community and it wouldn't weaken the alliances of the united states around the world. however, anthony, blinking the u. s. secretary of state does not agree. he said that he said basically that cobble is not signed on. and that is quite interesting because quite a little bit of difference there. lincoln said that the united states had achieved its goals in ghana stamp and that because of the terrorists, responsible for $911.00 were apprehended and killed had ad achieved its goals and it had been successful in the country. now it's important to note that the terrorists responsible for 911 were largely from saudi arabia. they were not afghan . furthermore, osama been lot and was killed in pakistan, not in afghanistan, so quite interesting, but lincoln is satisfied with the u. s. mission after 18 year. here's ways that we succeeded in achieving those fundamental objectives and the idea that we would sign

up for remaining there in the midst of the civil war for another 510 or 20 years, was not in the national interest. now part of the reason there's such a scramble is that us estimate about how long it would take the taliban to retake the country. seem to have been changing at one point. they thought they had 6 months or 12 months. at one point they thought they had 90 days, and even as recently as 2 days ago, they were saying there was no threat to cobble. here's what was said by a representative of the pentagon. always not right now in an imminent threat environment. but clearly, if you just look at what the taliban has been doing, you can see that they are trying to isolate cobble. now there's talk of more troops being sent them to oversee the evacuation of us citizens. but as far as protecting afghans the white house has made clear, they do not feel that is in the interest of the united states at this time. live.

now if you're carrying off ski resort us air force, lieutenant colonel, thanks for joining us. karen goods have you on the program with us today. not a little. trump has just slammed bodies. actions is what he described as the was the feet in the history of the united states. what was your assessment of the u. s . presence over 20 years, and i've got to on the outcome of that military operation. well, 1st off it, it really was not well justified. even in the wake of 911 given who it was that we understood was behind 911. so it was, it was poor, it was a bad response to a crisis in the country. and then we had a lot of times when we could have quit work and left or returned after non occupied, you know, free afghanistan, we never did that years. years past in the congress on both sides, republicans and democrats both loved the war for the most part with very few exceptions. congress love this war and i think we're hearing from them now. they

are very upset, but it is ending in a long, pointless waste of resources and certainly at great cost to the country and the people in the environment. that is afghan at stan. both are president and the state secretary of claim the us achieve the goals, given today's chaos that was saying the world is asking if that really is the case, do you think so? well, i think when, when the united states government says they achieve their goals, you really have to fact check that you have to go back and find out what their goals were. there are many in the military in the past, 15 to 20 years, they did not understand at all, did not know, wondered, asked, requested the information, what are, what is the mission in afghanistan? what is it that we are doing? and how might we, you know, take steps to achieve that mission, and they got

a variety of answers, answers that changed answers that were nonsensical from the, from the, from the u. s. government, from the various administration. so it's where it is words we achieved our mission . in fact, as i recall, i think george bush had a mission accomplished banner on a, on a us ship, where he said it was over admission had been accomplished. so i think the real issue is, what was the us? why do they stay? and i think the people and i've been understanding many people in the region and also others around the world. they look at how the united states conducts itself and where it chooses to go. and it is almost always a battle over either resources or territory or both. and so in that regard, we gave up resources in territory. ok because are put in place government that is now vacated from cobble that government is no longer working with us. we have to

have a new relationship with the taliban if we would like to have access to the territory or resources. you know, very, it's a very realistic view. i think that most people should have about how to understand why the united states does what it does around the world. people are making comparisons between today's withdraw on the u. s. leaving vietnam and the $970.00. that the last helicopter of science on those images have been circulating in the media. do you think that comparison is appropriate and even can use to come? the ask on was going to create the same sort of moral headache if you like, for the world as, as you get nom has become over the decade. well, i do think there are a lot of similarities and one of which, which maybe we're not talking enough about is the amount of life that the united states told its people about why it was in these places. why it was in viet nam and why course we were in 20 years and in afghanistan our united states government is

not honest with its people. i think it's a shame because i think we would benefit if we understood exactly what we were doing and these places been and why i think americans would be more understanding. so there's, there's that aspect in terms of what viet nam became certainly for many years, it was not something that was good for the united states interest after we left. but, you know, turned it today, vietnam is the top tourist location or it was prior to coven. it is a huge manufacturing location. a great many products in the state been around the world are made in viet nam, and it certainly has it. it's not run by communist. ok, it's the country that is run by viet many people. so i think if that's the comparison, then maybe we have something to look forward to with africa. and i certainly don't see the taliban as expansion is in any way despite their rhetoric of islamic republic. that is historically,

not really what the taliban has been about. this more for control of afghanistan has always been, even when the russians were there, a war for control of afghanistan, not a war to create a larger caliphate or anything like that. so i don't, i don't really fear that. i don't think that's going to happen. there's plenty of work to do at home. i think they're going to put in a stand 1st much is trump used to say about putting america 1st, which was just the slogan. i hope the taliban do put their country 1st and, and work to bring it into the the next decade is certainly possible. now that the united states i hope is out of the picture in terms of buying politicians and manipulating policy and dropping bombs. and obviously this is, this goes beyond just just politics of the highest levels, doesn't it? because joe biden, in a speech a few days ago, said, mentioned the thousands of american lives that will last and have kind of on the many thousands that were in, you know,

so many lives affected by the soldiers serving on the ground there as a veteran. and yourself speaking to, i've got veterans as well. what do you make of what's going on on the ground? and what's the mood among us? veterans who have perhaps lost comrades down the grounds among what the situation is turned into. well, at this point for all of the, the men and women of our country have served in afghanistan, who have lost friends, who, who's seen people injured, have gone through terrible emotional and physical trauma as a result of this service. and had hope that but in some way they were helping afghanistan for all of these people, most of them are sad, some are angry, but really they're sad and they're asking the question, and i think it's been reported widely. why, why was, why were we there? what were we really doing? because we did not achieve any mission that was sold to our soldiers. jar, young men and women who served there. what they were told they were doing was not,

i'm sorry, it was not the mission that was accomplished. ok. we didn't accomplish that mission, whatever mission the biden and trump, and george bush and obama were hoping to accomplish that was kept a secret from our troops that troops were told of very positive things about the future. best get a stand and none of it was true and, and i until committee knows very well that it, most of it was based on falsehoods, in imagining imagination. ok can get off the retard us for the tenant colonel. thanks so much for joining us on the program today. good to get your take on what's going on currently in afghanistan. thanks for having me. well, we also spoke to professor strategic studies, selma manecke, who says washington's broken promises to have going on and abandoned it. citizens, when americans had not, or the western capitals, had not really engaged the elephant in the room. and they had kind of wished to do

. we're for 20 years about the elephant of back impact to find some food di and the security forces inside a find a stand. we're not prepared. they were still very green in their preparation and the americans knew it. the western always knew it. but just because there had been a lot of investment on the ground by the americans and american waters were demanding as to why. for many american troops was still pledged in, up on his arm that the u. s. had to make the strong plus the fact that they did not have anything now to offer to the farm leadership or to the upon people. they had tried all types of experiments and those experiments had not worked here this time they were the direct stakeholders. and yet, despite the month of reintegration reconstruction reforming upon society, politics, security forces, nothing is really strong enough to started got ground. meanwhile,

the 1st part of british troops arrived and called on saturday to safeguard nationals and relocate former guns stuff. $600.00 soldiers are expected in total this week spring and the defense secretary warned of going on is on the brink of collapse, running with us, pull out a mistake and wallace that kind of militant, clearly have momentum across the country. and that's going to start his heading towards civil war, also predicting that the battle scarred nation will again become a weaving ground for al qaeda. well, many guns feel abandoned by the british evacuation of workers who helped foreign troops viet reprisals from the ton of and one group of afghans who assisted u. k. forces right on the streets of cardboard on friday morning, the british government to protect them. we spoke to 14, wind up or to work for both british and american forces. is arthur, remain anonymous out of fear for his life. my family has received threats in the post sometime i am,

the home was attacked twice. my father has been given warnings and threats many, many times my. my dad's name was called that has life will be severely at risk because he offered not one but 2 of the sons against the italian. recently, one of the interpreter, his father was caught in bacteria a province. he was beaten very badly. and he was asked to ask his son, who is an interpreter, to come and face the cause of the taliban in the past year. and so a number of interpreters have been appealed or targeted by the taliban. recently, one of the interpreter who used to be an interpreter for the american special forces was assassinated by the telephone. of course they will be coming off to them . they'll be coming off to their families and those interpreters. so there will be

but sure there will be different. americans have gone away versus going away. everybody is running away. who are they leaving behind? b interpreters who have served for years and he is old enough to understand tracing risk and benches. however, you can government instead of saving the lives, bringing them here to live in peace and safety with their kids. they are making excuses and new conditions put in place only to reject their cases. all i'm hearing from my colleagues is that their cases have been rejected, rejected. there was a number of cases which were told that they were good to go. there were even given there was sent an email confirming that when they were ready for their flights, they are told now that they can really take to the u. k. i and my brother, both of us would interpreter for the coalition forces. my brother still enough,

got to stop the british government is making the false accusations and excuses to withhold. not only my brothers, but many of the interpreters who genuinely need the british governments help and are very high risk. it's frustrating for the people who have served the british forces and currently are a priest and i think it's a u. k is a moral and moral legation to, to protect those who have worked alongside them enough canister. i strongly believe that the telephone will hunt down every or an interpreter who is so if the british and american forces it will be the african interpreters or who will pay the ultimate price. countries have been evacuating nationals in a panic. here you can see fraud, and croatians shrugged into whole heavy rucksacks bags and suitcases,

packed with 11 loadings to board military helicopters, couple and port. rather states have also been spending their different technicians, denmark, norway, temporarily shutting down their shed compound, germany in finland, closing their facilities as well, citing the deteriorating situation. the taliban says it was foreigners leaving the country, but russia says its mission is not under threat and has no plans to shut moscow's foreign ministry, as it will work with the transition governments, which is a process. it has long advocated local power vacuum a significant of course there is gunfire in the city armed looters. we know about the smell of burning. the important thing is that the taliban as they themselves promise are interested in a peaceful transition of power. they guarantee the safety of foreign embassies, including our embassy. we have significantly reinforced our security and advice. now there are no threats to our diplomats. our property will continue our work here in a calm and normal manner. a member of the russian federation council is worried that

the resurgent taliban could now try to support its influence throughout former soviet countries. the reports of the taliban on negotiating with the authorities and most likely on the surrender of the city and the transfer of power to the taliban. who's to blame the usa? they brought in troops 20 years ago, supposedly trained an army that's losing ground, that a fight under being abandoned. now, if they are trying to attract the world community, then let them call the un security council and let them decide how to stop what's happening. and i've got this done because bloodshed may begin, the security council may decide to enforce peace and may even use the troops of other powers to restore peace enough ghana, stan, let's compare that to the withdrawal of soviet troops back in 1989. that was an organized pull out. we left nancy bull of that who defended, i've got to stand for the movie,

dean for years. the americans have not yet managed to leave the territory of afghanistan. and this army, which they supposedly prepared, has turned out to be completely demoralized. we can say for sure that it's unlikely that russia will enter a gun is done. and even if there are some peacekeepers, it's unlikely that russia will be part of that. one of the most dangerous things though, is that if the taliban head to the north, where are allies tajikistan and cut a guest on our, we will have to do all duty and protect those states legal services. and i've got to start, i've taken a serious hole in the countries, given a tearing situation already heavily burdened by the corona virus pandemic. we heard from one saudi worker about the pressure, the local population is under. as the conflict has escalated over the past few weeks, we've seen a massive humanitarian disaster playing out. the escalating fighting has led to civilian casualties and large scale civilian displacement across the country. and

particularly in the past few weeks, we've seen tens of thousands of people fleeing the fighting to safety. here in cobble, this is also on top of an existing humanitarian disaster in which there was conflict . the ongoing impacts of the 19 pandemic and a drought was announced earlier this year. so half the population, even before this latest escalation and fighting with a need of monitoring assistance and those needs are even greater right now. un wounds that nearly $400000.00 civilians already fled home this year with a particular spike. since may most of the display, the reportedly women and children, you know, just some of the heart wrenching stories from the refugees. i have been displaced from telecom said the taliban killed my son. they took all the belongings from my house and set fire to them as transferred me the punch me in the mouth, causing my teeth to fall out. they demanded my son and i told them that he's a school teacher. she recently became

a teacher and had not even received his salary yet, had the clashes broke out and we were taken hostage in the fighting, went on for about 6 or 7 days, and we couldn't go outside to do anything we managed to escape. and now where displaced was widespread fighting, escalate women and children. and i've got to start paying the highest price according to the last un office report in the past 6 months, casualties, fluent and shoulder and gravely increase us in grim total set in 2000. and 9 more and more women in the concerned about the future of the taliban, the harsh version of islamic law. let's understand that. well there are women in the cities particularly cobble that made gains during these last 20 years . women are still oppressed in the countryside. there still is an extremely poor country with a terrible health care system and the fighting has really attracted women and girls . so stability and peace is very important for women. the taliban is said,

they're not the same tale, but there were 20 years ago that they will allow women to go to school and to work . we've seen some of that in the places where they have control, and we've seen in some other places that women have been fired from the places they work or they fear continuing to work until they've gone back into their homes. so i think it's important for the international community to put pressure on the taliban to respect the rights of women. and to make sure that in this transition process, women will be able to go to school to work, to have their rights respected many as kind of saw them. so you want to come to be you, but they are not welcome. when the law canal at loggerheads, they've what to do with moderates and those fleeing violence acts aren't the fullest layer explores what happened to europe's open door policy. your opinion is less than what to do with african refugees speaking,

assign them in the letter to the european commission, civil countries insisted they have the right to forcibly support those whose cases have been rejected. they vote that not to deport them, would motivate war refugees, to flee to europe. we would like to highlight the edge need to perform returns both voluntary and non voluntary to afghan. a stan stopping return sends the wrong signal, and it's likely to motivate even more afghan citizen to leave the home for the e. u. the situation in afghanistan is deterioration by the all when it comes as the us and nato prepaid to what's called a truth, that the end of the month after decades is on. the situation is so bad that the netherlands, germany, and france have decided to pause the deportation to be for now. the situation in afghanistan is likely to change and events for the coming period are so uncertain that i have decided to introduce more atoria on debt,

partition decisions and departures. agree or stress belgian and denmark standing. they want the rejected, assign them, because the e. u is not really and does not have the capacity to kind of another major migration crisis. why haven't you guys are waiting make up around, tend to fit into the side them seekers. they're the 2nd largest group after syrians and for a continent still scarred by the migration crisis of 56 years ago. there was a feeling of a who, a feeling of having been they before, that has your opinions worried. they might be on the verge of a fish refugee crisis. will. to recap on the latest advance, the medicine group has seized the presidential palace in the capital called bull. that's off the president. national have gone and fled the country. he confirmed his regular resignation on his facebook page when isn't now control all this.