[000:00:00;00] ah, ah, one of the desperate afghans they clung to a military plane, taking off from carbo film deal deal on his phone. his face is unknown. some went on to plunge to the death of one of the taliban commanders. he gave victory speeches from the africa and capitals, presidential palace spent years as a detaining one sentiment by the terrorists. now, the de facto leaders of afghanistan, we speak to the group about recent development. the withdrawal of us troops had to be carried out in a strictly organized manner and the world can see that the territory of afghanistan

is now under the control of the atlantic cameras. and the new reality and gun sounds making you lead is anxious about a potential. michael crisis to point ho as people leave the country headed for years. my stuff, i'm belong to. everything that has followed has not been as successful and has not been achieved in the way we had planned on. we must anticipate, to protect ourselves against major irregular my great re flows. ah, good evening, thanks for joining us. this is our t international. mo, scenes of chaos in ghana stem to the telephones take over the country, gunshot swift fod at the international airports in cobble. as people thus scrambled to flee the new regime. some tried to scale perimeter walls and fences to reach the evacuation flights with desperate parents even dragging their children over barbed

wire or unconfirmed reports of taliban find shelter. men scaling the war. 7 people have been confirmed killed though. not the port in the last few days. the satellite imagery taken on sunday captured the turmoil in and around the hubbub. thousands attempted to flee due to a lack of petrol locals reportedly abandoned their cause by the roadside. fuel is expensive in cobble right now and difficult to find. those who did reach the airport was so desperate to get out, they resorted to clinging to plains that were taking off. this video was filmed by one of those who took the risk. it's unclear what the fate was of since the video has emerged on line it. so he was one of the lucky survivors. others weren't lucky though, unverified and disturbing video as emerged on line apparently showing some of those who had clung to a u. s. air force plane falling to death and reported human remains were also found

in the landing gear of that plane, following its flight from cobble farms that munition were dumb to the luggage racks in the carpark cabella for locals, abandoned them as they attempted to flee. we asked local journalist show of knowledge of his order about the situation on the ground. there we have got the room out of the town and i just started out in public safety also. we are locked in for the government. people haven't said that you're looking for the journalist and, and call for the shocking news for everyone. even for me. i left my office on my rent a place, but i immediately and denied my deputy of belie but most of the found out i'm the leader of all about how much money he published. i mean, maybe you said that the cobbler people are safe to talk about the cobble

protector of the cobbled people and those groups of about a fight that has permission to enter out. all the people and and fresh videos immersed said to be of women protesting and campbell, they're demanding their rights be respected to work, to education and to political participation. the telemundo has actually been urging women to join the government and in another, unprecedented move a taliban official, sat with a female presenter for an interview with toler news and ask on television station. so part of a p, our campaign to present a more moderate side of the grid to the world, discussed the future of press freedoms in the country with 1000 say any chairman and chief executive of moby group, which overseas telling us the title of trying to win hearts and minds, they're trying to convince the political establishment people outside the taliban movement to join and support the taliban movement that are trying to secure

international support. so i think it's a bit early. it's a bit too early to judge as to what the long term intentions are. there will be a transitional government know that they may be more restrictive and eventually they'll be an emerett at the top on have their way. so long ways to go before we can say that they're receptive to women on television or to equal opportunity for math kind of sense. how do you feel about freedom of speech in afghanistan? the moment you kind of optimistic may be feared the worst when the taliban came into power. but how are you feeling in the moment? i'm feeling neither. i think it's too early and we can't be naive to assume that they have changed for good. a freedom of speech is not just on reporting on facts. i mean they, they believed that gods on their side. and the holy koran is the constitution. and then they can never be challenged in time. they will need to be need to get

channels and we'll see how much capacity they have for criticism when that happens . too, too, too early. and we have months and months ahead of us to see if they actually their, their actions match the words. it's understandable. we see an awful lot of people fling the heading for the airport. it's been tragic at times, watching the people that tends to get out. have you had any of your stops saying look, you know, we just not comfortable with this. we, we want to go? yes we have and there are many who want to stay on and continue their work and some who wish to get that. i mean what the tyler by doing that and the coming weeks will determine what people do in the years. i had this to sort of this, this middle class, this youth was, you know, 60 percent off of the age of 20. and they can, they can make or break the country. and if they leave, we lose our educated class. so really it's up to the top line in terms of how they

behave and their behavior is going to impact what people do in the months ahead. i was just the channel t arabic spoke with mohammed 9 from the taliban political office. the group is still class by most countries in the world, a terrorist organization. i think that the answer to this question is really obvious. the world can see that the territory of afghan austin is now under the control of the islamic state, the islamic emerett waste war against the occupation in order to create an independent islamic state. it was claimed that there were 20 different terrorist groups, perhaps more or less operating in afghanistan. but when he is land, mac amorous announced the sea far a few years ago, not a single shot was fired. and then the islamic emerald struck an agreement with the us. there were rumors in the media and reports that different groups when conflicts over this agreement. but the truth is that no one broke this agreement than the groups joined. the taliban and the invaders announced their departure,

then more more groups began to join the merger. d. o mo joe biden appears confused in some of his statements. withdrawal of us troops had to be carried out in a strictly organized manner. after signing the agreement, we told us that the withdrawal should take place in a strict order to an agreed shed. jewel, we told them that at every meeting and then when they postpone the withdrawal for 4 months or longer, we tell them the same. i don't know why there is this chaos and confusion and tension why the dramatic events took place at global airport. the scenes course pains all afghans and also cause fear in those trying to leave the country. they're not exposed to any danger because they are in our homeland, among their people. we strive to make the future for the people and the country worthy. we have no desire to take revenge on these people. we strive to ensure that our people united despite all the challenges we want to build

a new country and make our people have a decent future. we have issued a number of decrees including a decrease concerning those translators who collaborated with the occupying regime for one reason or another. the past is the past. they don't have any problems right now. after the taliban takeover the red cross said it will keep staff enough gown. astounding, continue providing assistance to all sides. recently the organization reported this since june, 1st to 2040000 people winded, in fighting in the country. all the figure of august to learn so far is $8000.00. the red cross direct of asia and the pacific says that in recent years, one half the casualties have been women and children. on the we some fighting in the, in the country and visiting the recent days we've been seeing a number of ensured must have been up or people injured in us because that's what

it would fighting to down leg. got it right and just create a huge you monitor in need hear back from the fighting over the years here. the concern is really much on the women and children that are making more than half of the casualties such that we have. we have, you know, we're, we're supported because here from there you have to imagine that when the long term shuffling and baby once you have been to us because you're going to be or so we heard to those rehabilitation center where it would take years to just treat people that could have been able to take it from, from those ones. we are very much committed to continue with the work be in a hospital, but that's not the best fit for you. i can understand the reason for our safety and this is not something that we are denying. however much to be that we have had over

the years he's already known. and we've been working in pregnancy control control. i read to him, i'm very much going to be that we can continue working. we're going to, he's very much the ones are trying to teach in dependence and, and it's very crucial, particularly at this moment. that's organization stand by. there was one of the taliban commanders. he was giving a victory speech from inside the presidential palace. soon after the militants took over the african capital, its emerged was a form, a detainee, and america's infamous guantanamo bay prison. camp glamor harney was born in 1975 recruited by the taliban in the 1990 s. eventually joining the movement so called ministry of intelligence in 2001. he was detained by us forces in cobble, and subsequently sent to guantanamo bay, where he was among the 1st detainees, and he was incarcerated down to 2007 the time now, he was deemed by us intelligence to be a medium level threats to america, and its allies and was expected to join groups dedicated to attacking us forces in

afghanistan is released yet. the americans did release and addressing the review panel. ronnie report to declaimed, he was an ordinary shopkeeper. he just wanted to return to galveston to care for his 6 father. well, the thing now to scott richard, he's a full marine corps intelligence officer. welcome scott. and the point i just mentioned that one of the telephone commanders seen giving a victorious press conference, the presidential palace, and actually spend years incarcerated at guantanamo bay. what do you think about that? first of all, it's to start with the you know, the, the premise that somehow being incarcerated at guantanamo bay, a legitimizes, the position of the united states and be legitimized dealer. jeremiah, does the person be an incarcerated? guantanamo bay is narration. it's a violation of international law. so by elation of you law

u. s. law. and it shouldn't be seen as a you know, a scarlet letter for, for people who, for most people that transit it through its gate. so right off the bat, the fact that he was incarcerated guantanamo bay is meaningless. was this man to tell about when he was detained? most probably was he lying when he talked about his simple roots? probably. did he rejoined the taliban after being released? absolutely. none of that's a crime, none of it's surprising. none of it matters. this is, you know, i mean to, to turn this into a story is to deflect from the reality that the telephone one in one because we released a detainee in 2007 who went on to become, you know, a senior senior member. they won because they were fighting on their land for their cars amongst their people. and that's, that's the real story. this is purely

a distraction. if we think about people who've gone through on time and also the been detainees, that us prison camps and iraq is going to be high profile. isolated with the put them getting to is to what extent to people who go in the go in as people considered to be terrorists and to what extent they become turned into extremist by being in the well, there is no doubt if i were detained up the street as an innocent person and subjected to in humane treatment in an illegal facility for a number of years by an occupying party. and then i was released my life would focus solely on killing those people. and that doesn't make me bad. that makes me human. so when, when people get radicalized by undergoing an experience that no human being should be subjected to, we shouldn't be surprised. the united states occupying

a foreign land, detaining the citizens of this land illegally abusing these people, and then releasing them. and in shock when they are radicalized and seeking to confront the american occupier violently. you know, it's, it's a theme that my work on american tv. it's, it's detached from reality, of course you're going to be radicalized. there should be no surprise about this. that makes me think of a couple of points. first of all, just how thorough is the process that the us is applied when deciding, who is someone that convinced is a terrorist who would have valuable information and who would just the suspects? how good is that? that kind of discriminating process been and secondly, what about the treatments that the people who been held though received? well, 1st of all, the united states is very rarely has 100 percent accurate information on people.

we detained these people for, for many years, questioning them and then questioning other people in an effort to assemble data that could make a case that these people were in fact terrors. or that could provide information that would enable us to, to target additional people. the fact that we released this guy means that he didn't contribute meaningfully to, to that cause. he was no longer of intelligence value. and they couldn't link him to a crime that was worthy of continuing his attention. you know, that's just the reality of the intelligence business. it's incomplete information. there's a lot of assessment going on. and sometimes you make the right call. most of the time you make the wrong call. what does it say? go ahead. i'm sorry, i'm just going to send the 2nd point i made it picked up on something you said earlier about the inhumane treatment of the inmates. to what extent is the, is the us making a road for its own back there, perhaps mistreating?

possibly innocent people who will then turn against them. it's 100 percent counterproductive. i mean, anybody with any brain knows that this is not how you go forward. you. first of all, the individual that you detained is radicalized. second of all, his family is radicalized. and 3rd, the nation that he represents that he's a part of will be radicalized. you know, one only has to look at when american sailors or british sailors were detained briefly by iran. and god forbid made the meal and put their hands behind their head . how the nation was, you know, both nations were terrified were what angered were enraged by this inhumane treatment. when in fact, these people were putting a room, given food, provided of facilities, and so which subsequently released we were raised without if they had been subjected to 110th of what we do to detainees at guantanamo or by graham or other secret facilities. you know, people be clamoring for blood clamoring for war,

so don't be surprised when the tables are turned in. we abuse people and their respective populations clamoring for americans, but it's just human nature. you've got at least one telephone number there confirmed who is in guantanamo, who knows how many of those that were given the inhumane treatment that people that reportedly suffer. you've said yourself, you think that would radicalize people foster hatred against the u. s. well then, the chance that there might be people infiltrating into the groups of african refugees heading towards europe in the u. s. with have in their minds and looking to carry out some kind of atrocities, contrary to what biden and blink and say, which is that terrorist attacks against the us a much less likely now. well, that would require a level of sophistication and pre planning on the part of those who would perpetrate such an act. i think way now we have you know,

extremely desperate people who are going to be received by the united states and processed and integrated into society. if you're somebody seeking to do harm in that environment, understand that the vast majority of the afghans you're surrounded with will disagree with your physician and will report you if they ever find out you're trying to do something to unless you're being received by a ready and willing network of support agents here in the united states. you've got to start from scratch, and again, how are you going to do that? so i don't believe there's any real threat. should we be guarded against it? absolutely. should our security encounter intelligence personnel or be screening people with that in mind? absolutely, but i wouldn't put that high on the list of concerns they the tell but just want to war. and now they are in the business of nation building the. busy last thing they need to do. ready is go kick the hornets nest called the united states because i can tell you this, but tell a bon bomb goes off in the united states and kills americans. there will be hell to

pay in afghanistan will be leveled. i mean, that's just a statement of fact, a statement of reality in the television. know that so be the last thing they want to do. scott, i'm absolutely fascinating. really appreciate the chance to speak to scott ritter, my guest for marine corps intelligence officer. thank you. thanks, prison biden broke his silence on the crisis on the day after the taliban had taken control of the country. he claimed that the u. s. mission in afghanistan was never about nation building our mission afghan. stan was never supposed to been nation building. it was never supposed to be created a unified, centralized democracy or only my last interest in again, stan remains today. what has always been preventing a terrorist attack on american homeland? the statement came in stark contrast the previous comments back in 2002 by the side . the failing to establish a solid national government in afghanistan might create a lawless,

safe haven for anti america terrorist killable projects. a closer look at the president's history with the conflict. when you look at what's happening and afghan us, dan, you can hardly say that joe biden is blameless. he supported the war 1st in congress and then his vice president. and now he says that his decision for a sudden withdrawl is correct to many, it looks like he has absolutely no clue what he is doing. what in his mind, it all makes perfect sense. we want to have gans dana was 20 years ago with clear goals. get those who attract us on september, 11th, 2001. and make sure i kind of could not use afghan stan as a base from which to attack is again, we did that. now some are remembering how wishy washy joe biden was when it came to the obama white house's decision to take out. been lawton. he eventually praised the decision when it fit the overall narrative and emission that will go down to

the annals of intelligence and special operations. some of america's most gifted security professionals track down some and a lot after the trail had gone cold. joe, what do you think? and i said, you know, i didn't know we had so many economists around the table. i said, we oh, demanded direct answer. mister president, my suggestion is, don't go, we have to do 2 more things to see if he's there. now biden looks a little shaky when you look over other foreign policy decisions as well when it comes to iraq. he voted for the war and he pushed the false claims about weapons of mass destruction. but now he's for withdrawing their to as vice president. he supported prime minister ma leaking and many of argues that he ended up emboldening ice when it came to libya, biden was very outspoken in supporting the overthrow of what was at that time, one of the most stable and economically prosperous regimes on the african continent

. now says that one was a big hoops as well, starting to look like biden doesn't really know what he's doing on the global stage . this is something his critics have been pointing out quite loudly in recent years . i think biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy, a national security issue over the past 4 decades. remember our biden campaign for office by calling out? donald trump says unpredictable and untrustworthy when it came to us foreign policy . well, recent moves in afghanistan are certainly not an argument in jo biden's favor. you know, it's hard to know what's going through biden's mind because he does change his mind on strategic issues and he doesn't have any clear set of guiding principles when it comes to foreign affairs. yes it's, it's somewhat of a crisis, but the crisis happened a long time ago when democrats stopped supporting and non interventionist military policy when,

when democrats were all in favor of going into iraq and going into afghanistan and when they supported hillary clinton and obama, when we when the united states military got involved in libya and other places, they already lost the logical battle they are in the crisis happens. so this is just another symptom of bad policies within the democratic party. and the democratic party losing the good things that had ever had that it stood for almost 20 years of us involvement in afghanistan. it's taking a heavy toll on millions of people. and it's also not been kind to american taxpayers who've had to foot the bill for one of the country's most expensive wars in history. we take a look back at the extraordinary cost of the count by on my orders. do you know the united states military has begun strikes against al qaeda, terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. we will win this conflict by the patient accumulation of successes by meeting

a series of challenges with determination and will and purpose. the i the real the wealthiest country in the history of the world. and yet we have the higher trial poverty rate of almost any country on earth. our mission and get to stand was never supposed to been nation building. eulley is growing

increasingly worried about the situation in afghanistan. they fear the chaos could spread to europe and promising a large influx of refugees. a number of the leaders already stated, they don't want to repeat of 2015. it comes as european countries trying to evacuate that personnel from afghanistan on his pita, oliver reports on the use, fizz and efforts. european leaders have been talking about the need for a united front when it comes to what to do about potential african refugees arriving within the european union. we've heard on tuesday from german chancellor angle merkel who was owning a lack of union within the european union. when it came to matters of asylum, we'd also earlier heard from the french president manuel mac crohn. he's come in for some criticism for his comments in which he's said that his country needs to be protected against future arrivals. of those from afghanistan seeking refuge. first, we have to discuss how to accommodate the people in the neighboring countries and

move forward. the next step would be to look further, but a european solution would certainly be difficult. we have not yet managed to create a common asylum policy development. this would be, we must anticipate, to protect ourselves against major irregular my great re flows that would endanger those who use them and feed trafficking of all kinds. we will therefore take the initiative to build without delay. a robust, coordinated and united response will involve the fight against irregular flows. for germany didn't have a great start to the process of evacuating thousands of people. it's identified as in need of having to leave a gun. this done, the 1st crafted it send took only 7 people out of the country. that's the process that is ongoing. bo, and of the aircraft have arrived throughout tuesday. now we've also heard from yen stalsen berg, the secretary general, who said that the priority for the ally is getting their personnel out of

afghanistan right now. nato's focus right now is to ensure a safe departure or personnel from ally than partner countries and of the africans who have helped us when it comes to those afghans that have worked alongside nato forces, their us special criteria. what a hoops basically that people are going to have to jump through to qualify for getting a ticket onto one of those aeroplanes that's leaving from cobble airport. if we look at those that have worked alongside the germans, well there is a number of, of criteria you have to take, you have to basically received a death threat. there has to be the specific threat against your person being made . and you also have to have worked with the bundle there within the last 2 years. that's 2 years out of 20 years of nato occupation of the country. you also can't have worked with any subcontractors or aid organizations whatsoever. so it does

really limit down the amount of people who will be able to get on to those flight from the german side as they they try to escape from cargo when it comes to refugees. so would be the real way. the only way we're going to know just how many people are going to try and flee the country, is how many people arrive in those near by nations. that's going to be the best gauge of it anyway, you're looking at those countries in central asia also pakistan, ron, as well, should they see huge amounts of people arrived there? well then you repeat, leaders may well be prepared for should be prepared or pay a ring for people to start arriving on mass from afghanistan on european shores. and i wrap it up for this house coverage of the unraveling scenario. enough, ganna staff will be following events closely to stay with auntie for more the

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