these new cigarettes are making the tobacco tours. ah, one of the desperate asked towns who clung onto a minute to play and taking off from cobble proves that appeal on his phone. his fate is unknown. but tom went on to plunge the taliban brief mead, you offered theatre a power promising that it see no revenge. that off down who was foreign armies are given to reveal one of the taliban commanders who gave victory speeches from the gun capital presidential palace spent years as a detainee, 100 k, i bring you the swords and others might not. this is all the international. have you complete the sound?

what jumping in as we have done the last couple of days of war, themes of chaos in afghanistan onto the town of bonds. takeover of the country gunshots were fired up the international apple in couple of people scrambled to flee the new regime. some tried to scale prim tools and fences to reach these occupation flights with desperate parents drives and that children over barbed wire that are on confirmed reports. talib, on flight shot, a man scaling the wall. 7 people have been confirmed, killed at the port in the last few days. the satellite imagery taken on sunday captured the turmoil in and around the hub of thousands attempted to flee, due to lack of petrol. locals reported they found that caused by the roadside fuel is expensive right now and difficult to find. some of those who reached the apple was so desperate to get out. they were clinging to planes that was taken off. this

video here was filmed by one of those who took that risk. it's unclear what to say was so since video has allowed since online is hoped, he was one of the lucky ones survived. that all those ones on verified and to stopping video has emerged online apart and showing some of those who had clung to us for the play, not falling to that death. and it's report to the human remains. well, also found in the landing gale that very plain alter its flight from cobble on my arms and ammunition where dumped out the luggage rocks in a car pock out the capitals, apples, locals, and found them as they attempted to flee. we are a local journalist, shreeve, not just us all day about the situation unraveling on the ground. there we go, the room of the one i just saw the housing public safety also we are locked in for the government. people ever visit that you're looking for the journalist and, and call it for the for everyone, even for me. i left my office on my rent

a place, but i immediately and denied that the deputy of law law and found out i'm the leader of all upon how much money he published. i mean, maybe you said that the cobbler people are safe to talk about the cobbled predictor of the couple people. i'm down the route of the fight that permission to enter out all the people. and as people tried to flee the town about housekeeping, a media briefing in which it tried to assure stones that they would be safe if they stayed. in particular the terrorist groups that it would not exact revenge on those who had collaborated with the u. s. coalition to meet your park, join me earlier in the studio to discuss what actually means. that seems to be the main message of peace and love. i guess the taliban leadership made this press

conference apparently to kind of give a face to the international community that this is a new taliban that they're friendly. they want to make peace. one of the 1st things that they 1st, again said is that they want peace, which would mean that there would be no interrogations. and no revenge or any of that sort against anybody who worked in gas and any ford citizens, a foreign fighters, foreign workers, or even of gas and citizens who health the coalition. during these years, after that the spokesperson for the taliban leadership went on to talk about things like women's rights that women would now have a much better under the new government that the taliban leadership will make. they're still working on that part. they would have all their rights protected, they would be come a very active part of society. they would be able to work on air and even have hold places and positions in government. although they did stress, of course, that this would be under the guidelines of serial law. so whatever that means and

how that would be actually implemented. after that, he talked about media freedom. once again everybody can work. everybody can function even encourage the media to highlight the shortcomings of the afghanistan government. although he did warned, for it not to work against the government. and independent media would also be allowed to remain free and independent basically. so all these messages, they're basically saying that this is a new taliban leadership. this is going to be new. and they've been talking about this all over the place. basically saying these messages to anybody, even our team reached out for an interview with them. and here's what they said. they're not exposed to any danger because they are in our homeland, among their people. we strive to make the future for the people and the country worthy. we have no desire to take revenge on these people. we strive to ensure that our people united despite all the challenges we want to build a new country and make our people have a decent future. we have issued a number of decrees including the decrease concerning those translators who

collaborated with the occupying regime for one reason or another. the past is the past. they don't have any problems right now. so it's a media tom offensive. that's for sure. but how convinced our people? well, obviously not everybody is convinced. we can see from all the care going on and again, stand with the mass exodus and all the scenes of people trying to flee the country . because still it's the taliban internationally recognize terrorist organizations . but the taliban leadership has stressed that what it tries to convey is trying to convey that they've changed. it's been 20 years since they were in power. and over these 20 years, the afghan people grew and grew. and they're not the same taliban, there they were back then. and kind of shows i guess you could say because now they have twitter handles. they're holding press conferences that by all means are civil . i'm sure many people thought it would be something more barbaric when they heard a taliban press conference. there's a lot of promises made here, right. so it's still remains to be seen if any of these promises will be held. but

one thing this press conference has shown at least, is that the taliban has learned p are basically learned how to communicate with the west. it's learned how to use these key words that the international community generally likes. while the new look taliban has already failed to convince song with the ears foreign policy, chief joseph brow saying that the only thing that had improved in the combat with 20 years ago was our ability to speak english. you lead to is all growing increasingly worried about the situation of kind of stuff, because they fear that the case can spread to europe while promoting prompting. a large influx of refugees brought out that the block will help countries neighboring afghanistan to deal with migration flows. need to coordinate between a union member of the state race. it will be how you know and we will have to support it. timesheets and neighbors countries. well, joseph borrow, who we will, listening to their summed up the sentiments,

expressed at a online meeting of the you foreign ministers in which he said that the priority was the safe evacuation of european and of any african citizens who had worked with them for more than 20 years, if indeed they want to be evacuated. he also said that they were ready to engage with the taliban. this did not mean official recognition that it was an acceptance . not everybody in europe is happy. you have, for example, from germany and eastern european capitals who are asking the question why other countries are not taking on the burden of dealing with these refugees. first to we have to discuss how to accommodate the people in the neighboring countries and move forward. the next step would be to look further, but a european solution would certainly be difficult. we have not yet managed to create a common asylum policy development. this. we must anticipate to protect ourselves against major irregular my great re flows and backward endangered. those who use

them and feed trafficking of all kinds, we will therefore take the initiative to build without delay, a robust, coordinated, and united response that will involve the fight against irregular flows. now, despite miracles, concern about the human crisis and the potential impact that this could have on europe, she did manage to find time to attend, to form premier in berlin. and this is despite the criticism that so far, gemini has only evacuated 7 of its national from could bull. at the same time, a number of leaders are very pits. the mistake you have, for example, the check president, my live zeeman, who had said that nature failed enough, got done. and its legitimacy has now been brought into question. the distrust towards nato, from a number of member countries will grow off to this experience because they will say, if you failed and again, it's done. whereas the guarantee that you won't fail in any other critical situation at the austria, it has cold on neighboring countries to have gone on to pick up people taishan

centers as a way of handling immigrants that are attempting to flee the taliban. austria, of course, is maintaining a very hard line stance when it comes to immigrants. you then have turkey, which is in the final stages of building a 295 kilometer roads along its border with a ran to prevent african refugees from entering that country. the nato secretary general said the priority for nato was as follows. nato's focus right now is to ensure the safe departure or personnel from our, than partner countries. and of the africans who have helped us stop. good mister, that europe was surprised at the speed of the political and military collapse of the cobble government and was something that they had not anticipated. he also said that he was frustrated that after years of international assistance, the results were to quote him not better. dr. robert, but,

and the say his 1st line custody university, specializing in us politics, says the crisis not going to stone puts yet more strain on washington's relations with europe. i think that europe already is under massive streams in terms of humanitarian aid that it provides to other nations in the region. i, i don't, i don't know why we're not seeing united states president standing. i've been saying, okay, you know, we cause this weather was 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago or last week. and we need to step in and help with is nobody should have to go and live in a refugee camp because a western democracy is decided that it's nation building a must be clear, it was nation building. that was the mission that we were there for. if we remember back to and to those days, and as a reporter, i remember reporting and those types of ways that this was about democracy as much

as it was about other things, such as stopping. but nobody should have to live in a refugee camp because of these decisions that are being made by a western government. one of the taliban commanders who was giving a victory speech from inside the presidential palace soon after the medicines took over the africa and kept on sunday is it's a merged a former detainee at americas infamous one ton of bait prism count. so who exactly as he well colon ronnie was born in 1975. he was recruited by the ton of on, in the 19 ninety's, eventually joining the movements so called ministry of intelligence in 2001 he was detained by us forces in kabul, subsequently sent to 110, and we pay while he was among the fust and detainees, well that he was incarcerated until 2007. and at the time, ronnie was deemed by us intelligence as a medium level threat to the us and its allies. i was expected to join groups

dedicated to attacking the us forces in afghanistan. that was if you were to be released, i didn't, the americans did release him in the end. addressing the view panel ronnie reportedly claimed he was just an ordinary shopkeeper who wanted to return home to catch his sick father audio, we heard from scott ritter, a full not marine corps intelligence officer. he told us that paces white guantanamo bay were bound to create extremist. the united states is very rarely has 100 percent accurate information on people. we detain that these people for, for many years. if i were detained off the street as an innocent person and subjected to in humane treatment in an illegal facility for a number of years by an occupying party. and then i was released, my life would focus solely on killing those people. so when,

when people get radicalized by undergoing an experience that no human being should be subjected to, we shouldn't be surprised. it's 100 percent counterproductive. i mean, anybody with any brain knows that this is not how you go forward. was kind of found the vice president has vowed to to keep up the fight against the taliban. i'm going to saw a tweeted that he was inside the country and was now in fact, the acting president. report say around 10000, ask our troops are on their way to pan ship province to join the resistance. this area is very close to cobble and includes a strategic important road that needs to the north of the country. thought it has reportedly been joined by the military commanders who refused to given the northern part of africa. stone has historically been a spoon in the taliban side. it was home to the sofa. the move and alliance which fought against the terrorists in the ninety's. according to song reports fighting has read teeth broken out with afghan forces managing to wrest control of some

areas near the capital. meanwhile, fresh video is said to be of women protesting in kabul, demanding that rights be respected, including to walk to education and to political participation. the taliban though, has actively been urging women to join the government and in another unprecedented move. a ton of on official sat with a female presenter for an entity with total news and asked on television station. it's all part of a p r campaign to present a more moderate side of the group to the world. am i putting a new hobby, discuss the future of press freedoms in the country, the sod, sonny? he's chairman and chief executive of movie group, which overseas toto news. the title of trying to win hearts and minds. they're trying to convince the political establishment people outside the top of the movement to join and support the taliban movement that are trying to secure

international support. so i think it's a bit early. it's a bit too early to just to what the long term intentions are. there will be a transitional government know that they may be more restrictive and eventually they'll be in emerett at the top on have better ways. so long ways to go before we can say that they're receptive to women on television or to, you know, equal opportunity for math kind of sense. how do you feel about freedom of speech in afghanistan? the moment you kind of optimistic, maybe you feared the worst when the taliban came into power. but how are you feeling in the moment? and i'm feeling neither. i think it's too early and we can't be used to assume that they have changed for good. a freedom of speech is not just on reporting on facts. i mean they, they believed that gods on their side. and then the holy koran is the constitution . and then they can never be challenged in time. they will need to be need to get

channels and we'll see how much capacity they have for criticism when that happens . too, too, too early. and we have months and months ahead of us to see if they actually their, their actions match the words. it's understandable. we see an awful lot of people fleeing the heading for the airport. it's been tragic at times, watching the people that tends to get out of you had any of your stops saying look, you know, we just not comfortable with this. we, we want to go. yes we have and there are many who want to stay on and continue their work and some who wish to get that. i mean what the taliban do in the, in the coming weeks will determine what people do in the years. i had this, this sort of this, this middle class, this youth was, you know, 60 percent off of the age of 20. and they can, they can make or break the country. and if they leave, we lose our educated class. so really it's up to the top line in terms of how they behave and their behavior is going to impact what people do in the months ahead.

part some fight. meantime broke his silence on the crisis. more than a day off to the ton of on took control of the country. he claimed us mission, afghanistan was never about nation building. our mission again to stand was never supposed to been nation building. it was never supposed to be creating the unified, centralized democracy. or only why less interested in again, stan remains today. what has always been preventing a terrorist attack on america homeland when his statement came, in stark contrast to past comments back in 2002 by and said that failing to establish a solid national government in afghanistan might create a loan, a safe haven from american terrorists, next top kind of open takes a place to look at the president's history with the conflict. when you look at what's happening and afghan is dan, you can hardly say that joe biden is blameless. he supported the war 1st in

congress and then his vice president. and now he says that his decision for a sudden withdrawl is correct to many. it looks like he has absolutely no clue what he is doing. what in his mind, it all makes perfect sense. we want to have gans dana was 20 years ago with clear goals. get those who attacked us on september 11th, 2001. and make sure i kind of could not use afghan a stand as a base from which to attack is again we did that now. some are remembering how wishy washy joe biden was when it came to the obama white house's decision to take out. been lawton, he eventually praise the decision when it fit the overall narrative and emission that will go down to the annals of intelligence in special operations. some of america's most gifted security professionals track down some and a lot after the trail had gone cold. thanks,

joe. what do you think? and i said, you know, i didn't know we had so many economists around the table. i said we owe demanded direct answer. mister president, my suggestion is, don't go, we have to do 2 more things to see if he's there. now biden looks a little shaky when you look over other foreign policy decisions as well when it comes to iraq. he voted for the war and he pushed the false claims about weapons of mass destruction. but now he's for withdrawing their to as vice president. he's supported, prime minister ma leaking and many of argues that he ended up emboldening isis when it came to libya, biden was very outspoken in supporting the overthrow of what was at that time, one of the most stable and economically prosperous regimes on the african continent . now says that one was a big hoops as well, starting to look like biden doesn't really know what he's doing on the global stage . this is something his critics have been pointing out quite loudly in recent years . i think biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy,

a national security issue over the past 4 decades. remember our biden campaign for office by calling out? donald trump says unpredictable and untrustworthy when it came to us foreign policy . well, recent moves in afghanistan are certainly not an argument in jo biden's favor. you know, it's hard to know what's going through biden's mind because he does change his mind on, on strategic issues. and he doesn't have any clear set of guiding principles when it comes to foreign affairs. yes it's, it's somewhat of a crisis. but the crisis happened a long time ago when democrats stopped supporting a non interventionist military policy when, when democrats were all in favor of going into iraq and going into afghanistan and when they supported hillary clinton and obama, when we, when the united states military got involved in libya and other places, they already lost the logical battle. they are in

a crisis happens. so this is just another symptom of bad policies within the democratic party. and the democratic party losing the good things that had ever had that it stood for almost 20 years of us involvement in afghanistan has taken a heavy toll on millions of people and also not being kind to american taxpayers who've asked to foot the bill for one of the country's most expensive walls in history, we take a look at the extraordinary cost of the campaign. on my orders, deity of the united states military has begun, strikes against the al qaeda, terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. we will win this conflict by the patient accumulation of successes by meeting a series of challenges with determination and will and purpose the the

i the real, the wealthiest country in the history of the world. and yet we have the higher trial poverty rate of almost any country on earth. our mission and get to stand was never supposed to been nation building all to the taliban takeover. the red cross set it will keep stalsen afghanistan and continue providing assistance to slides. or recent e v a to when i say she reported the since june foster had treated 14000 people rooted in fighting in the country,

while the thick of august alone so far is 8000. the red cross is direct for asia pacific says that in recent years, over half the casualties have been women and children on the recent fighting, you know, in the country and visiting the recent days we've been seeing a number of ensured must have been picked up or people injured in the dentist and that's part of would fighting to down leg. got it right and just create a huge you monitor in need. here are deeply you back a bit more from the fighting over the years here. the concern is really much on the women and children that are making more than half of the casualties such that we have we have in our were supported because here from there you have to imagine when the long term shuffling and baby once you have been to us because you're going to

be or so we heard to those, if you got a rehabilitation printer where it would take years to just treat people that could have been detected from those ones, we are very much committed to continue with the work be in a hospital but that's not on me that i can understand the reason for safety. and this is not something that we are denying. however, much of the remedy that we have had over the years he's already known. and we've been working in pregnancy control, pretty bad control. i read to him, i'm very much going to be that we can continue working with that. he's are very much the ones are trying to push in dependence and the percentage. and it's very crucial, particularly at this moment. that's organisation stand by. there was the russian foreign ministry also described the current predicament as the natural result of the u. s. and nato troop withdrawal storing parallels with other western lead interventions over the past 2 decades. cortex,

a washington's length. the operations in the country has actually been paying directly into the taliban tongues. ortiz equals tunnels explains. they've done it finally from siri and lay b, a in the middle east to venezuela and cuba and latin america. washington has a decades long history of failed attempts to bring anti government militia is to power. and at last they've crack the code in afghanistan with the taliban. apparently, all they had to do is instead of aiding them, they should have just fought against them all this time. thanks to our military morale eyes and the brave fighters of afghanistan said taliban regime is coming to an end. there is little doubt that our greatest military challenge right now is afghanistan. we must reverse the tale, bonds, momentum, and deny of the ability to overthrow the government. our troops will fight to win.

we will fight to win. it all started so well. the u. s. invaded the taliban, fled to the mountains, the u. s. trained and trained and train the new african army, spent billions on supplying it with more noms. we spent over a trillion dollars. we trained and equipped an afghan military force. with some 300000 strong. we gave them every tool they could need all of us in vain, only for the taliban to seize all the equipment. as soon as i've got to stand fools, which strengthen their already solid position in the country, the comprehension of the situation on the ground was also far from what you might expect from the country deeming itself the military and intelligence superpower. the united states currently lacks a comprehensive strategy to gates reconstruction efforts in afghanistan. it also lacks overarching plants with clearly defined metrics to guide its work in

a number of key areas, such as anti corruption, connor narcotics, health, education, gender rule of law and water. all this lead to the inevitable corruption, the thriving within the security forces. there glaring ineffectiveness and as a result, lack of trust to the u. s. backed institution from locals. the african population perceives places, predatory bandits and calls them the most hated institution in the country. around 30 percent of the recruited place of deserted whether issued weapons to set up their own private checkpoints and extort money from travelers. various sources before the telephone calls were preferrable alternative, and that they were perceived as accessible, fast and less corrupt than the government established courts. so when the us says something like this, that force proved incapable of defending the country. and that did happen more rapidly than we anticipated. is it that big of a surprise?

i mean, really well, but at least this time america is meddling actually lead a militant group. even one recognized as terrorists by many states to gain total control over a country of galveston who failed. the united states failed and they failed to train the api and military. but to be honest, this isn't even the 1st time where we've in something like this. remember how much the united states invested in, in nation building and iraq, and how the iraqi security forces web. at 1st sight of islam extended, it was very obvious to me. as soon as you know, you said that it would be withdrawing that this was essentially the same thing as hinting the keys to the towel them. but i truly do not believe that the american public understood this. and i'm not even sure that the bite in administration understood the seed. this is what happens when you try to impose

a western concept of the democratization onto a culture that has absolutely no concept of it. i mean, they didn't, they never had an army there before. and they, they were more involved in insurgencies and whatever. then we tried to build an army. this was totally alien to them. so none of this is surprising. and many of us very early on were saying this is a, a prescription for disaster. and this outcome is very dismayed on the one hand, i feel very badly for the asking people because they have really taken the brunt of, of this miscalculation both by their own leadership and by the united states government. well, rob, on this as coverage of the unraveling situation, i've got install, we've been following closely. we'll continue to do so. this is our team national like from the.