me who the a man who is this? with preston, vicky how did nothing places in his truck to deploy to blog nick capitol hill. so run doesn't d c police? his ex wife says he's mentally unstable. one was upset by trump, defeat the topple apple. these more pale desperate parents tried to pass that children to us soldiers hoping to give them a better chance of a new life. meanwhile, the us military reported, please take us to the spot. so the last thing is saying at risk of being overwrought and plus british families last loved ones to the concept snapshot of thought is what a providing veterans say that dismayed by the ton of bonds,

a rapid restart printing. now what all the sacrifices were in vain. we seek some other one for me and for a whole lot of time, a lot of people are asking you know, was worse. and i question now and since sunday and i making sure you never mrs. joy, this is autumn international as of when live from moscow. welcome to the program. getting started a film in washington, d. c. has ended with the suspects hunter himself into the police. his threats triggered the evacuation of an arrow near capitol hill. please fast sense trouble and they were allowed to to a suspicious vehicle parked nearby. around 9 in the morning, a local time, a black pickup truck pulled up to a pavement near the capital. the driver called the police himself and told officers

he had a form in his the driver the truck told the responding officer on the scene that he had a bomb, and what appeared, the officer said appeared to be a detonator. the man was identified as 49 year old floyd re roseberry charging by his social media is a big donald trump supporter. he had reportedly committed a number of offences in the eighty's including last many while as events in dc unfolded where we live, streamed himself from inside the truck, indicating a barrow. he said was packed with explosives. the video has since been deleted the account blocked on facebook during the stream, he talked of a coming revolution and said he wanted to speak to joe biden. on the phone, he claimed he had enough explosives to level the surrounding area. if police tried to shoot him, he'll said he didn't actually want to kill anybody. you wanted his ex wife, back or very for his ex wife,

told the media that he's long been mentally unstable and had told her the night before. he was off on a fishing trip. she also said she was devastated by the 2020 election result individuals supposed to 3 years ago. he expresses his support for donald trump. ashes to ashes dusted the fail players will listen. donald trump carolina still be with us. the true motive behind where the bomb threat remains unclear in his life. thing he did also mention i found on wiley, i talked to senior r t writes in abortion mallet. she was up the scene in washington for us. i was here when the capital police chief announced that he was taken in without a struggle without incident they said that he had a criminal record in north carolina, but the capital police jeeps were nothing that serious and that he had his mother had recently passed way the only other thing he mentioned, there was no mention of politics. they said there will be clearing the scene for

several hours looking to make sure that the truck is actually say, they had concerns about the propane tank in the back of it, which is the center of the actual fall. and how it's transpired, the he is a trump supporter. key thing capital hell could have had a special significance for him given what happened on january the 6th, of course, it looked like he was berating. some football players were kneeling for the national anthem and losing the game. i mean, the trump support 75000000 americans voted for trumping the last election. that's a pretty big barrel to stuff everybody in. i a lot the look, the prevailing attitude on that portion of the american political spectrum is that january 6th was at, at best a horrible mistake and at worst a set up. i don't know if that's true or not, but that's what they believe. and so i don't think they would i'm not in his head. i don't know what motivated him. i can't really. this is

a batter disclaimer. i can't really say what he did or didn't do, and we'll see if he has anything to say. but i don't think he sort of came back to the capital for any sort of special significance, especially since biden's not in d. c. biden's in delaware. and congress is out of session. so there was literally nobody from the structures of power to pay attention to him except for the police and the media. the incident pulls the twitter argument about what motivated res free. one side immediate inflamed, his micah involvement, causing the hash tag, mike, a terrorist to trend. all those came to it was a full flag operation. the incident had been staged voice, tomato again says the government actions are pushing people to the extremes. the followers ation has become much worse by the ministration has essentially said that criticizing the government as a sign of domestic care potential terrorism, cobra policy locked down mass mandate criticism of the full i from if you understand these are on governmental opinions and anybody who holds them is

a terrorist needs to be 1st off of social media, so on and so forth. i wouldn't be surprised that this happened. you literally have a division straight down the middle of america, with a lot of people, a continuing to believe that the last election was illegitimate. and instead of trying to persuade them or, you know, tell them or tried to make some sort of unifying gesture. the people in power are basically going, well, who cares? you will submit the taliban has declared the creation of the islamic emerett of afghanistan, the same name they used for the country when they were lost and power. who is on while the full days, i'm sorry, from the ton of and dramatic return that has been for scenes of count couples made our port as people try to flee on wednesday. hundreds of crowded barriers and fences. young children with policy that people had some desperate parents hoped us, gods would accept them and bring them to safety. gunfire has been hard coming from taliban checkpoints since sunday and he's 12. people have been killed him at the

kale, up the dozens more. have been injured reports suggest the u. s. military use peer gas to disperse crowds. amassing at the entrance, dozens of people were seen sitting on the ground without possessions lying around. it's being confound that us troops did fire warning shots of quote, a crowd control measure. well, this right, his, an on verified video showing nascar women up the apple p doing with us thought to let them in dependent and says it has to defend the field because thousands could run it, putting its forces at risk. america and other western countries are prioritizing that are not nation without us. depend, can admit it's facing difficulties, getting people back we don't have the capability to go out and collect of large numbers of people. we're really working hard to get as many people through as possible, and quite frankly, we're not we're,

it's obvious. we're not close to where we want to be in terms of getting the numbers through. so we're going to work that 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, the u. s. was caught unawares and i think once again, they have failed to analyze what the situation was. it really puts on full display, the delusions of the u. s. which after all has been in afghanistan for almost 20 years, are consuming, according to some estimates to trillion dollars. this money has not gone to the benefit of the afghan people, obviously. and this whole enterprise has been very bad for the american people as well. many us soldiers have died. the good thing about exposing the delusions of the us empire and the neoconservative to run u. s. foreign policy is that it's going to make them harder to continue. so there

needs to be a lot more criticism and exposure of what the reality is versus what are the promises and the, the false estimates by us intelligence officials. the united nations security council has wrapped up a session devoted to issues of terrorism and the threats it poses to stays off task data on fall into the hands of the taliban. the situation not country was high on the agenda. among the speakers at the session was to food morality and who saw this chief of presidential programs on dotcom president. how many calls i he made an impassioned p, foul, de hold most inter when to alert and mitigate, and a couple of big humanitarian tragedy. and to use it in the un must overcome its usual approach. boy declaring your situation as urgent. you monetary and crisis on to chapter 7, provision of the united nation charge, and this should include serious and urgent deliberation to declare cabal as faith,

soon protected by a un peacekeeping missions. this would love their opposing faction to calm down inclusive political settlement while working to mitigate the unfolding catastrophe . at the meeting of the 15 member body that leads the united nations. we heard dire warnings from the afghan and boy talking about the threat of terrorism and how the situation and afghan, it's dan, threatens the global community. now what was interesting is when we heard from the representative of the united states, it seemed like a very different message. the us representative did not play up concerns about the situation and asked janice dan, but seemed to kind of downplay the potential threat only reflecting on the possibility that if the terrorists were to set up shop in afghanistan, this could somehow result in the plotting of terror attacks in the united states, very interesting message. we will hold the taliban accountable for its commitments

not to allow any terrors to threaten the united states or its allies from afghan soil. and as i said earlier this week, we all, we must all work together to ensure afghanistan cannot ever, ever again be a base for terrorism. folks will recall how the situation in cobble is kind of capturing the attention of the world. there is a number of people surrounding the airport begging for the opportunity to leave the country, fearing the taliban and their return to power. but the united states is scrambling to evacuate its own personnel and its own citizens, let alone people and a half dennis dan, who fear for their lives amid the return of the taliban, the u. s. department of defense, as admitted that it basically doesn't have a breakdown of who has been on the evacuation flight and that there they are, may be, it does not know. basically how many americans are still trapped in cobble. now,

at the un security council, the message of the united states would seem to not really be concerned about the implications of their sudden withdrawal from afghanistan, and that the implications of the world that message did not go down so well with various international figures. here's some of what we heard criticizing the us approach. leaving the country abruptly after 20 years was that i did just consider the tragic events in september, the 11th 2001 and for the past 20 years of dentist and was full of american. the nato troops, military instructors advises, was officially declared goal, was to fight terrorism and to prepare african security forces to take part in this fight as well. tremendous human and financial resources were expanded on this. and what's the bottom line? once for an instruct isn't troops left all 20 years worth of efforts were nullified overnight. no one was willing able to fight for the values imposed by foreign powers. has a gun to stand seems to be a terrorist and drug threat? certainly not. but it's now up to the new ab going to authorities and the country's

neighbors to deal with that. now the western troops of left the african people are having to deal with an even bigger pile of problems. meeting wasn't solely devoted to afghanistan. it focused on the threat of terrorism around the world. and a lot of time at the meeting was devoted to discussing the continuous formation and presence of the i feel terrorist group around the world. there was concern about the continuous bomb attacks and terrorism in different parts of the world. the attacks on civilians and military camps in african states. it was also touched on what would be done about the ice l foreign fighters who continue to be held in custody in syria and iran and iraq. how would they be dealt with? how would they be processed and dealt with also, there was some concern about the fate of children being held in detention camps with their parents. these children who are held and associated with ice hills. so that was the focus of the meeting. the focus was on the world situation, the threats of terrorism,

a lot of different countries spoke up. that was the meeting of the un security council. on particular upside up the rapid fall of the west and backs government and cobble on the resurgence of the taliban. or british veterans and families who lost loved ones to the conflicts the some question. if all the sacrifices were in vain accusing us a new cake. governments of watching the withdrawal. we spoke to the mother of fool and british soldiers short benny, who was killed in a fight fight with telephone militants back in may. 2009. he was 22 years old. his mother jeanette, but he told us about the emotions she think feeling since sunday a lot of i'm very on the outside with able to do that that they've been able to come in and do what they have to do. a lot of people are asking, you know, was it worth i question now and since sunday i haven't really flat lender thing any of the mums and families that have lost loved ones, i have really been able to comprehend best. i know that when my son was told he was

co saved and women and children and the men that he was mentioned at a time along with his own una. and i will be for effort grateful to him. and so that at the end of the d has late was given to try meet as punchy back to start the child from being able to rule the neighbor to cause head or any way of one off down and then 24 hours. they have just walked in and took over. it's just ludicrous to me, need to explain why the fight is true so rapidly between the key and america beneath. explain why this is that, i mean i personally would like an inquiry as to why you like us. well, there are a number of issues emerging from the ask on crisis such as the master he jeez, and whether the taliban should be officially recognized for example. but american talks are host tucker, carlson says there's an even more conspicuous problem since cobble has just fallen,

it might be worth asking most obvious question of all. how did the 6 century triumph over the 21st century of the town upon wasn't just using medieval weapons, but still how could they have so easily defeated? the u. s. equip tough can on me while to discuss this issue. we've got a panel of guests. so joining us now of pizza clinic, his professor and director of the neat killer studies institute at american varsity and d. c. charles shewbread form of me and counter terrorism entitled itself and trevor cole section of walls and both afghanistan and iraq. or if you're very welcome to the program, peter, i'm going to start with you. whether it's written, the soviets all the u. s. now, why have these great powers always failed in their invasion of afghanistan? what are the things that united see afghan people? is there abhorrent of foreign invaders and they rallied

against the british a rally against the russians. they rallied against the americans. they also are very much opposed to. there are very tribal religious people, with a lot of religious fundamentalism. and so when these secular armies come in there, that's a red flag to them that represents the antithesis of what many of the people they want. the taliban for example, are largely patched to him. it's mostly a rural insurgency. the united states was able to control some of the city control the countryside, and then i said, did not understand what it was getting involved in the united states culturally, was so ignorant of conditions inside afghanistan that we thought the war and completely inept way from the beginning, so despite all of america's fire power,

despite all of america's allies, the united states was really doomed from the very beginning. it was the wrong war. we could have avoided the invasion in the beginning and were leaving in a way that's very, very unfortunate for the afghan people. chop i want to ask you is of in your experience, do you think that the taliban has improved as a fighting force in comparison with 2 decades ago when the us lead campaign started? well it has 90 thanks. dear mary, even as black hawks behind in his arms behind thanks to the president of united states. so right now it's very well equipped taliban and it's never had so much weaponry. honda, $2.20 for ours done as whole existence. what's all i want to pick up or not? there is speculation that was a snowball effect to the ton of bonds at bonds in the sense that they grew in strengths as they started collecting this equipment from con,

could tar chief decent? not right. well, i'm the person that we all need to be actually asking as the president of united states, who kennedy did a deal behind 41, coalition box ignored 41 company stopped working with him. he turned his back in the leaders of every other county on the planet and did a private deal with the taliban. and you know what, this is just this has been the biggest military blunder and the history of off the planet. and i don't think any coalition company should ever, ever again, work with america. this is hard to reach us at texas and i'm angry. i'm angry at the present. he doesn't seem to be in the right frame of mind. he's making decisions and destroy and 20 years of work at 4000 soldiers killed. and i've got to stand and you know what? i've never said the certainly before, but i think the presence of america is actually a retard white. and that's a very strong was if anyone was offended by that, i do apologize. charles,

i do want to ask you, how could the ask and all me over to quit with advanced us weapons trained by the top us military fold so quickly to the taliban. i think it felt for a number of reasons and i don't think in any way it was unpredictable. i thought this would happen analysts or even extended observance such myself as long said that as soon as american heart american money. well, i had something i could purchase 2 trillion dollars, american money as soon as that was taken out of the equation that the house of college, if you know that was the african state that was depending on that would collapse quite rapidly. and if we look at exactly how rapidly it, which we just within a few weeks, i think we control perhaps a number of the number of implications from that we control the some instances that may or may not be true. and certainly i think that this was less of

a military campaign by the time and more of a political campaign. i suspect there was a lot of work and a lot of negotiation. the went behind the scenes before this actually wants to place that is to say, secure deals with local leaders with local warlords, local powers, such in effect on adults. regardless of the fact that in some cases it was opposed . in a majority of cases, it was simply not opposed that was not political or military well to oppose it in to that extent, by correct and not to say that when people payments would have made to locally does not to oppose or maybe just maybe the population of afghanistan, especially away from the cities where some advance has been made under the occupation of western forces in terms of liberal advances and so on, women's rights, etc. but perhaps that's the situation and an unpalatable truth, perhaps that a large number of african, only people, especially outside the cities,

are sick and tired of war instability and insecurity. the corruption of the outgoing western support government. and perhaps it's not even, it's not perhaps actually welcoming new taliban, or perhaps in a mindset that it can't be worse than the previous incumbents that were backed by the western powers. and without those factors in place, this rapid advance could not have taken place. and there was not really a military cannot, there was simply overall, it was, there might have been military opposition and some cases overall in cartersville is only possible if deals have been done. that would pay the way for the town about how to get into cargo. well, peach, that's what i wanted to ask you about this. you know, i've kind of gone, has been essentially living in a state of war since the eighty's had not left the population simply maybe unwilling to put up a fight against baton upon no tired. it's not just that they were unwilling to

fight. the question is, who are they fighting for? are they going to fight for a corrupt government? led by ostrich gunny, who has done so little for the for the afghan people, according to god last year, 90 percent of the afghan people lived on less than $2.00 a day. so you've got some corrupt warlords, and you've got to corrupt government officials and business men who had their own pockets effectively stolen the money that was supposed to go to supplies for the military and the supposed to go direct reconstruction programs to help the afghan people. and so who were they going to fight for? they didn't believe in many of the leaders in the military who were also stealing and they didn't believe in the government, which was in very, very corrupt. you have to remember that in the election in 20191800000 afghans

voted a few years earlier, 8000000 had voted. this isn't a population of more than 39000000. so the united states, as allies, had not succeeded in reforming or, and transforming afghan society in a way that improve the lives of people. and as charles are saying, the people are fed up with war. they hated the night raids, they hated the bombing campaigns in 2019 from drop more bombs than dropped in the previous 1819 years of the war. so in the beginning, this was, it was doomed. really tough. i want to get some reaction from you. i mean, this isn't the 1st time that the u. s. has left weapons behind in a country, but that withdrawing from me sort of syria, hundreds of thousands of guns also in iraq. is it just carelessness or they just trying to get out of that as quickly as possible? it's both curtis, this is one because bygone was

a very secure place state of the art and it could be easily defended night. you would think the bag would have been lost and but to complete the move your trips and still leave your staff and the american embassy. and can bo, it's just this. you don't need to be. you don't need to have a military man to understand, but you need to remove your staff from an embassy and to secure a b s. and then leave the country. but to do it backwards is completely in unheard of. it's been has been thought, so it, it feels like someone has, has dullness, with no knowledge whatsoever of the area. and listen, it just doesn't make sense. it. none of it makes sense. hi, the president has actually went the biters know heard the previous guest on or mentioned donald trump. i wonder how long it would be before someone brought his name up. but let's be honest. it's the guy in the hot seat night that has done us.

it doesn't matter what previous presidents have done a present can change things at the job of a hot night. the fact that this had been drawn back the front a night president, the president now worried a ban highest. want to get a star for his civilian stuff. it just go to show you that this was not planned. strategically has went wrong. if not, i think this is me. america's strategic foreign policy completely irrelevant ny. and it's, it's just sad. it's just, i've been sorry for the civilians left behind. i'd be sorry for the afghans people . it just seems pointless the whole lot being a waste of time. that's something i have heard a lot over the last few days since we've been getting analysis. charles, i also do want to ask you, is there an element of a failure of western intelligence to understand the taliban to capability. charles? well there are 2 answers to this. the 1st is that yes, that was evident. the so the fact that the speed of conquest, if you'd like,

or at least the speed of the collapse or the lack of resistance of african forces predicted like people extend with an external observer such as myself, i didn't predict that it would be 10 days. but i certainly didn't expect it to be much more than 10 weeks once the us is gone and set up well, you know, i don't know if from the inside, undoubtedly all coming up with that kind of information surpasses. last question where the intelligence is there, or whether it was actually listening to we know that bite, and i mean i would defend biden to this extent and say that he's been acting trumps policy. i mean, disagreement was made by trumps. but then he is executed very poorly as the previous speaker said, the timing of it and the rush of it has left people very exposed. so it's not necessarily the principle of withdraw the problem. i mean, it was inevitable and it's likely i think to have a positive effect. so after it's done in the long term, it's reduced for the 1st time. i'd be so now conflict. but in terms of putting

people in the exposed position, it's definitely done that because of the counted way or we can come to the way it was managed. but i would also say that new spec to the intelligence question. let's not forget, there's been a concerted effort that's been exposed to the last 2 years. and then 3 years ago by a very volume in us reports, for example, from the washington post even and elsewhere. the extent to which the american military and the american media half an a hostile level law. it's deliberate and you can use any other word but like misrepresented the situation on the ground in afghanistan to the american people and to the western audiences to the accept or pretending. so yes, everything was going well. the great progress was being made that the western forces was popular, that they are desperately wanted and needed by the people. none of this was true and none of this, this was been even acknowledged by intelligence, expertly working for the american military. sadly,

over the last 3 or 4 years. and so that has been largely hidden from the american people until quite recently. and so for them and for other people, including people who actually fought in conflict, it comes a bit of a shocked really at that. this is happened so quickly and i think it's difficult for many people to come to understand and to actually understand and recognize that this result, if not in his speech, but certainly that's fine analysis. the situation where now with absolutely inevitable, perhaps not from the moment that america went into kind of stuff, but certainly from the moment within a few weeks, you must of 2000. and what happened is that the mission cracked to such an extent that it included all sorts of experts in building and then fighting the laws and fighting al qaeda, which was the original mission and which now of course the americans and british are saying was a success because there is no longer in our car to strike the spot now,

but that's not forget that was achieved within a few months of the americans and the british and others going into afghanistan. and so from now a definition, it may have been proved to success, but that hasn't been the justification for the mission for at least 19 years now. well, i appreciate you will call me on unfortunately we have run out of time, but that was pizza, personal history of trust and director of new studies at the american vast in d. c. charles schubert, former counterterrorism intelligence officer and trevor colt veteran of war in afghanistan and iraq. many thanks to and that is awesome. dawn for the solid banks are stopping by hip season. ah, now we have easy read. i just heard that it was a healthy alternative to figure out, do we trust tobacco companies with their message that these new products are actually going to reduce these? these are making the tobacco.