ah ah, in the wake of the tele bonds shall take over about the dentist and the white house says it did not evacuate earlier to avoid a complete crisis of confidence in the afghan government. but it admits that its belated response failed to stop that from happening anyway. as you went through, agencies warn of shortages enough denison within weeks. the groups a chief for the country tells us of a growing humanitarian catastrophe. needs are enormous. that awful population are the most important thing right now to provide so that we can or wide partial from people from earlier some app downs employed by foreign states did manage typically the country, however they, they are relatives remain and fear retribution from the telephone. and we spoke to one translator on condition of anonymity because of the risks. i believed that

americans were responsible for the negligence. and today's, anybody will be killed as a result of this plan will be on the hands of the be american government. does it headlines this hour? i will be back with more and about an hour's time watching ginger national with national the i am a kaiser. this is a kaiser report. let's take a trip down memory lane through the history books, talking about geo politics as it was a 100 years ago, 150 years ago from some big brain sewer to looking at the big map and how that's relevant today. stacey. well, our upcoming guest,

dan collins tweeted something that blew my mind and it fits into a lot of what the cause report has been talking about for the past while the past decade. and you know, that whole region of the world of this to city chap, a soak road, china, china, emerging, and all the problems happening in afghanistan, the middle east, that certain area of the world that we're going to look at something called that i just learned about but i'm going to read you the wikipedia because it's really interesting in light of what's happening with the u. s. poet losing an afghanistan . and then around announcing that they say that they're joining their officially going to be accepted. and the shanghai cooperation organization, which they have not been and the previous 2 times they applied. so the geographical pivot. and this was introduced by sir, how ford, john mac kinder. ok, ma kinder. he was an english geographer,

academic and politician who is regarded as one of the founding fathers of both geo politics and geo strategy. so he dubbed this phrase the geographical pivot of history. it is an article submitted by him in 19 o 4 to the royal geographical society that advances his heart land theory. in this article, ma kinder extended the scope of geopolitical analysis to compass the entire globe. on page 150 of this he said, who rules? east europe, commands, the heartland, who rules, the heartland, commands the world, island who rules, the world island commands the world. so max, you're probably wondering what is the heartland? what is the world island? what are these things? well, the world island, as he said, which so this, if you rule the world island, this area you rule the whole world. and that is the interlinked continent of europe,

asia, and africa after you asia. because this was the largest most populous and richest of all possible land combinations, that controlled half of the world's resources in that area. that has been part of this strife for the last 100 and something years. hundreds of years really. the offshore islands, he said included the british isles and the islands of japan. the outlying isles included the continents of north america, south america, and oceana. so any country who wants to rule the world needs a rule that world island right well brings up to previous empires and what gave them geo graphic strength, right? there is a british empire in the american empire, the british empire ruled the seas. and in his work, he talks about how having the critical landmass trump's having dominion over the seas. and because of all the natural resources that are effectively in that land

mass in the american empire, it was a phrase manifest destiny. as america went east to west and they conquered that entire continent more or less, and separated or isolated or protected by 2 oceans. so they were having the ability to grow accordingly. now we're entering into a period where this idea of having the critical landmass the island is coming into play. so around joining the shanghai cooperation organization or s c o. we've been talking about that for a number of years. and once now they're stepping up. so now they join, also, afghanistan is now no longer under the influence of anyone but the f gattey's. so now you, you see how this can take shape, how this takes form. so now this incredible land mass with the one bed, one road initiative, china and russia very closely linked now. you know, there's food and over there in china again selling some ice cream. they love the russian ice cream and china. i think that's the entire basis of the 11 road empires,

russian ice cream. and now an afghan stan. and there it is. that's what the guys talking about. and this is the new empire. so you're going to discuss that. but a bit of history that we've been talking about that the senate shop, there's a pivot happening. we've been saying this over and over for last 3 months. but dan collins talks about this in relation to china and what's going on over there and afghan, them and elsewhere. but you know, so let's go to that story about, around the shanghai corporation organization around to join shanghai, cooperation organization that hasn't been formally announced and happen, but it looks like it actually will happen this time. so right now the f e o is china, russia, india, pakistan, their members. it's a mutual defense and security package. a ran has so far been unable to join because of tears. you could then and becca stand, have a nice universal acceptance by all members. and they've kept on denying the right

of around to join. but this enters into what china china is one of the founding member. and they want this belt and wrote initiative right without rans, active presence. and as role as the link between the east and west and china's plan, it will be difficult to achieve the goals of reviving the self road. and china is well aware of this. because in both land and sea routes around geo political position on the soap road is vital. the plan which includes 2 trade routes, the silk road, economic belt, and the 21st century maritime silk road involves investing in the economic infrastructure of more than $65.00 countries. the economic belt which covers the land root of the silk road and as the ancient root of a self road connects china to eastern and western europe through central asia and west asia. and the countries of chris extend has expand is becca been around turkey,

ukraine. it includes poland, belgium, france, and finally italy. right. and, you know, things are happening quickly in that region. he got the new pipeline, our stream to going right from russia to germany. so we can see a direct link there. and as you point out, europe ian countries on the eastern side of europe falling into the new land mass, economic sound, which will be bigger than the e u, which is currently the biggest economic sound in the world. so this would eclipse the considerably. and you know, as horace greeley tall young man in america go west young man. i think today the mattress should be go east if you're looking for opportunity. got to his becker stamp. i. well, this is what my kinder said a 100 years ago, more than 115 years ago. so this has been the goal for the entire time of geo politics. he found a geo politics. we have a whole geo politics thing. tank industry and industrial complex in america and

they all got it wrong. they all get it wrong. they've had it wrong. we've lost enough ghana. stan, this is their failure and you know, now we have this situation. so it ran to join shanghai cooperation organization. and it goes on to point out the importance of the secret. central asian countries do not have access to open waters. therefore, in the economic plan of one belt, one road, china will inevitably be one of the access routes of these countries to the open waters of iran. therefore, iran can provide better transportation better and more access to the persian gulf by strengthening and developing communication infrastructure. in other words, around is their connection point to open waters. everyone gets is a, when it's a win win win win situation that there's no losers in this, in this new, in this to organization. there's also the black sea, but that of course has to go through turkey. so there is

a vulnerability there. but in terms of, of the geo politics of this, this is the story that we've been talking about over the past decade with dan collins. i think if you look at the record of kaiser report and what we've been reporting and our conversations with dan collins, i think we've been way of any of the conversation you've seen on us mainstream media for the past. you know, especially once joe biden and, and others in power back in 2000, 2001 elevated china to the w t o. basically, it's almost done propaganda pro china because our elite, where it's shipping all our jobs over there. but now they're like, fanatical about like heating china, right with, without any coherence or reason or rationality. but i think we've been right on this like, like dan collins predicted. it was back in pre 2016 election. he said, we were already in a trade war with china, only he, united states is the only one they didn't know. they weren't

a trade war and they were losing. and that he then remarked that it was interesting that trump, at that time was pointing this out, he was saying the exact same thing. and he was hated at the time. number trump, this is part of their heat for him was that he was mentioning that he was going to go hard after china. but now, now we have the geographical pivot is happening just as like when we said that we didn't know about the kinder. and this, this, this concept, but when we 1st talked about the 4th turning meets that they said it is sharp and all these things happening, we didn't realize just like that. this is been understood as a very important world island situation right there. and it looks like the belt and road is continuing forward, providing a forest china and doesn't burn down. it's your treasure fleets, as you've also discussed right now, what we're saying is there is this incredible picture, a puzzle that's happening in that area. the one missing piece was around, and after a couple of failed attempts, now the ramp case is going to be slaughtered in and we put that around piece and

you see one by one road going on with us entire land mass with access to water with energy from russia, manufacturing, china energy from a ran against develop, but they provide trade routes, afghanistan, they have let the, and we know that, but, so they are strategically, geographically. part of this all situation. i believe china is already got salesmen on the ground in afghanistan, buying a property and doing deals and, you know, gliding the way, i guess, afghan is, we're more interested in just doing business and less in democracy. well, you know, certainly china borders at pakistan and also borders the smaller border with afghanistan. so they are, they do cheryl land border and it makes sense that they would want some sort of stability on the border. everybody wants stability on their border. look at our border at the moment, there's hundreds of thousands of people crossing the border every month because there's so much instability and central america due to other policies there. but

you know, i do have a funny joke, but of course it might get us the platform from, from, from, from, from me during the break down the break space is going to tell me a funny joke and you don't get to hear it because everything is censored these days except us. is that right? i think so. don't go away. was for our coming. hey, what does it has to do with hunter bite and it just seems weird that are afghanistan. policy makes china the big winner. yeah, that is a funny job. we couldn't possibly tell that because everyone's really sensitive about that could get us platform, don't share it. don't tell anybody you heard that. shape it yourself. just down to here. friends. going to take a break and then we come back. mar, don't go away. unless we're not here. exactly right now. ok here.

but still come back. somebody over here it is. be somebody else. the me the the americans love buying homes. ah, this was fundamental part of how our political leadership and our country at large understood the bargain. you get a home and then you will rebel, right as the things you don't revolt if you have a stake in the system. the be really interesting to dial back and think about the longer, deeper history of what housings meant in the united states. not just that old question of the american dream,

but the bigger question of who the dream has been for the me. welcome back to the kaiser report time now to turn to dan collins, entrepreneur and business man expert on many things, including china. dan, welcome back. a great me back. all right, i follow you on twitter. and you know, you put out some great content on twitter. what's your twitter handle again? believe dan collins, 2011. that's right, and i saw this, you know, you're talking about geographical pivot of history playing right now and how this paper relates to the news of the failure of the us military project in gas, afghanistan, and also in iran joining the shanghai cooperation organization. expand on this?

well, it's interesting development. news broke this week i ran is doing the s c o sharing a cooperative organization. clearing russia, many countries of central asia and of course, led by china. they have a cooperative, different type of defense agreement against anti terror. iran's now going to be able to purchase a lot of chinese military equipment like a carrier missiles. this could totally have been middle east security. i mean, how are you know, us as in for secure in the middle east with our aircraft carriers. now they may not be able to get anywhere into the middle east, so the yes you always been developed around is joined it. the geo political pivot of history was a founding geo political principle that no one can ever be allowed to control eurasia. the origin land mass. the reason why is it would then become a world's island and the rest of the world kind of become a backwater. so what you see regionally is kind of the realization of mckindoe's island. you have russia plus china plus central asia all the way out to the middle

east. china by far the world's largest customer for oil now from the middle east. and you got what's the mic hinders island, then? what could a pen trade flows and could eventually create backwaters out of places like western europe? right. you know, with iran the strategy was also isolate them to apply sanctions. and here with the stroke of a pen, we've got an enormous addition to the shanghai cooperation organization, which fills in the missing piece and the one bed one, road initiative. and also why just a, you know, the economies of scale. there's a certain, gustavo, here, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts stan and you mentioned aircraft carrier. so those aircraft carriers were prevented from going in. now they'll be able to, to, to get right and will be denied access essentially from that area. and that is

america's flagship deterrent. i mean that's all i really use. so this is a total game changing moment in history and it harkens back to as you point out, what's been talked about 100 years ago, a g, a politically. what we can expect from something like this. now the speed of the collapse of afghanistan back into town bank control as being compared to the helicopter, left out of saigon. the new york post here in america ran a front page story bite in saigon. what's your assessment of the situation and trying to benefit the complete boon dog. max. $2.00 trillion dollars spent over 20 years. thousands of lives, loss this day was coming. i mean italy bond, even last year, controlled more territory than they did in 2001 when the u. s. as nationally went in the 1st 6 months of the war. i think us did it was, it was a good response. they created the victory, but they get involved in this stupid nation building stuff over to decades. away tax dollars as fast as you can spend the $1000000000.00 a week at one point,

you know, goes in afghanistan, goes right back out to mil military contractors. it's been a, it's been a boon dollar and we're going to see potentially $5000000.00 refugees and gas stance. all the women are gonna go back into into feudalism. many of the men are going to be in big trouble with reprisals. anybody worked with the american government and ghana saying has already toured the world. the leadership of is again a stand has been to moscow. they've been to shanghai as almost they already control afghanistan, which they in fact do outside of balls. we've been leaving behind military equipment. you a v. s. we had 100 humvees roll into iran yesterday because they didn't want to be captured by the volleyball, so were given away equipment. now. china's already got $400000000.00 funds set up to put electricity in the country. so we spent $2.00 trillion dollars and only 35 percent of afghanistan as electricity today. that's. that's the result of our

nation $1000000000.02 trillion dollars. but jane is coming in, they're going to put a electrification in the country. they're going to build railroads. they're going to build an oil pipeline right down to our in pakistan which is already built and links up for iranian oil. so it's basically a way to get a oil land bridge from the middle east to china and they will no longer be hancock at the streets and lock and singapore via u. s. navy blockade. so it's a major, major strategic breakout for china. right. and of course, you live in china for 20 years as a business man, you're doing business over there. you live in, in the us now, but you speak chinese, and i would imagine i'm going to ask you, have you been following any of this? and the chinese media and how do they, how do they play it in terms of ghana stand there? it's basically a black guy in the united states. there's just one more, if you know from the financial crisis of all 8 to the coal,

this experience now and 2 at the collapse of afghan stan in potentially iraq, which ran running now. it's just one more card in the deck of american impotence on geo political stage. yeah, and we say yes and focusing on china here for a 2nd. so a lot of headlines that we've talked about a china crushing some of their most successful companies like and financial or education companies, you know, going back 500 years in china, burning their treasure fleet. once again, you know, 500 years ago, i believe it was the bang dynastee where they had the world's greatest naval fleet, thousands of crafts and they dominated global trade. but the new leadership came in . they burned to the gram, fearing that the merc until class was getting too powerful. as i understand the story is a replayed of this to some degree and financial jack mark these big tech companies

is it is there. is there a similar dynamic? i know there's 500 years apart, but is it similar? it could be, i mean, the answer is it could be, it could be a turning point. think it's too early to tell what china china does have a cyclical history of boom and bus. and every time the bus happened is because the government, because of government overreach. so a lot of there is a, i think a misconception today about china and the chinese government would disagree with this. but the chinese government did not create the chinese economic miracle. it was the chinese people. china took a long time to learn how administered 1400000000 people, got me just back in the cultural revolution when the ball saigon was happening. they were starving 4050000000 people started with us in sixty's cultural revolution . got into the eighty's, they kind of went to capitalism. they said private enterprises. good. they boom. they even when i moved to china, 998, i was an exchange student troy university. they were told we have no money for you

. go start businesses. everybody's starting businesses because the government had no money. so they took it, there was basically no regulation do whatever you want for the last a fair capitalism. the chinese economy boomed. and then over the last 58 years, you've seen the government take credit for that and just put more and more and more regulation. if they continue to de, incentivize the economy, they will have a problem and they will solve. but i think it's too early to tell, we'll see their, their smart operators. they may see we've overreached and they may pull back. so they are very proud. they take a very practical approach to managing the economies or see how it develops. right. well, certainly enter the shanghai cooperation organization. we've got china rushing around now as a member and the one bed one road initiative, which is china's initiative. and i think they've already allocated some huge multi $1000000.00 credit facility to start building that out. how far along are they and building it out? puerto bill railroads,

your bill countries have been electrified. countries like either by john have high speed trains. meanwhile, in detroit, we had 2000000 people were down 260-0000. that's my original home down and bring it up. we've been de industrialize, or if the structure is a mess, we just passed the 3 trillion to our infrastructure bill. i would bet nothing actually ever gets done. there may be a few media projects that they highlight, but we can't build anything him or like to change the train either way ahead of us ports of the building, sir, along bridges in montenegro, which the us complained about you know the expressway in montenegro that you complained about the country didn't have an express way. so the trying to build in the belt road, the 14 plus one protein in the eastern europe. all that lot of eastern europe companies are now moving towards china's orbit. so you're going to see that your asian heartland, china, russia,

iran factor stands going to bring in the orbit of southeast asian countries, eastern europe. and because the, the economics, it's too strong, china's economy is so much more powerful united states at this point. yeah. here's an interesting thought, you know, puzzle. so you know, in the us, they do all the want printing and they do all the stimulus packages and they talk about all these programs. but if you look at the money velocity number, it's trying to 0 because all the money get stuck on wall street, wall street keeps it all. it's a huge bottleneck. never gets distributed. something like less than $0.05 of every dollar. the government prints gets to the designated destination or they say it's going to go. so this infrastructure bell, if it's 3 trillion 90 percent of it will stay on east hampton. you know that in something like that, similar in china now you know better. so when the government initially puts out these huge programs, does money velocity actually, is there a velocity? is it actually happening or is it, was it just one big show?

know the might the banking system, as you know very well in the banking system, controls united states economy in china. the banking system is state on it is there to put loans out and put money into the economy, but that money actually goes into real projects. it doesn't get turned into the casino, where it just gets speculated in united states. i mean, as somebody does business united states, i can tell you small business, medium size, business, not getting unsecured, loans. there's no loans out there. the same people are, you know, 0 percent interest rates from the banks, but average people are paying 20 percent plus on a credit card. it's interest rate a part that you talk about. but there is no the banking, the private equity system, the wall street in united states is not set up for the real economy in china. it's all real economy. the ceo of a bank construction bank, take bank in china. they may, they're twice as large as j. p. morgan make $2.00 to $3.00 times the profit of g. p . morgan, the ceo, might make $200000.00 a year. meanwhile, jamie daily becomes

a billionaire as an employee of a bank, or you become a 1000000000 or as an employee, it's ridiculous. so it's all, it's a completely different financial systems. china doesn't get into speculation. they don't get into all the leverage stuff. the banking system, the current has been fixed only to provide stability for business. so that's what the whole system is about. building a real economy with real jobs and real prosperity, right, and a, g d p over there is something like 1718 percent in the u. s, it's barely positive. we'll get into the 2nd segment. thanks for being on cars report, dan, and that's going to do it for this edition of kaiser report with may max kaiser and stacy herbert want to thank, i guess, dan collins. until next time bio the me. ah,

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