[000:00:00;00] ah, ah, top headlines here. what is a national at least 40 people are killed and more than a 120 injured into explosions outside cobble airport. according to reports, 5 us told us are among the wounded taliban earlier said an attack on combo apple was possible and might be aimed at humming the groups. the image is more beautiful than the problem is that a huge number of people have gathered near the airports and there was

a threat that the single person, one person, the low can carry out an attack and killed people in order to damage the taliban reputation. and it's all my state affiliate in afghanistan or known as isis k is thought to be behind the twin explosions in cobble as a taliban condemned to terror attack. ah, part just off the atm here, the russian capital. this is art, the international, a very warm welcome to you today. it's been several hours of breaking news here on this channel. and the breaking news does continue with our stories from afghanistan therapy and at least through explosions outside the international airport. in cobble where chaotic evacuation effort was underway ahead of the us military pull out according to africa and the african health ministry. at least 40 people have

been killed in at least 120 are injured. among those injured are 5 you soldiers. now the tax comes just hours off. the western governments had warned of a security threat. so far there's been no claim of responsibility. the taliban earlier downplayed terrorist threat warnings as a provocation, and it's now saying several of its own guards were injured in the last along with women and children. now there are unconfirmed reports that a terrorist group called isis k, which is an afghan affiliate of islamic state may be behind the attack. early reports address the explosion was caused by a suicide bomber and gunfire was also heard at the time. now during a recent media conference, taliban folks posted and warned of a possible attack on the cobble that might be. the problem is that a huge number of people have gathered near the airport and there is a threat that the single person, one person alone can carry out an attack and killed people in order to damage the taliban reputation. this is not a significant, not

a big threat. we're monitoring the situation at the airport. we spoke to ali hasanti who was in cobble airport when the explosion happened. today the problem is done is get you to the get the youth to sort of like 5 minutes away. they were like 45 minutes and they had told them it was looking look danish, the 50 will renewed the duration problem and the difference of them did the type of type of wording do. they were looking for specialists. they didn't have what they was looking for. they were looking to use, i will 100 because when they get back to my line and they get that to deliver it to people just didn't want to happen in the near,

near today's 1st in the way it's happened during the week. don't for me to dig into it again when i get to the line, the user tuesday. i think the guys that they were behind the youth looking them. i mean your camera have the use to stay all the people that stay away with people didn't. they told me that they are joking because they did these distinct many times there was always, didn't get in the used tubing, gas doesn't smoke when the people do it. they know the 67 people, the people who are new to the kids. so they were like $5.00 to $15.00 days. your dear fish was born. it was blowing down hard. we cannot cross live to off america correspondent john hardy, who was joining us here on the program. john,

very good evening. good afternoon to you as well. can you tell us about the reaction from washington? how are us officials reacting to these last now in carbon? well, right now, president biden is in the situation room. he's huddled with senior u. s. military and security officials at the white house, including among others, the secretary of defense sect, f. lloyd austin and the secretary of state antony blank and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general mark milly, were awaiting more information from both the white house and pentagon press briefings from the white house and the pentagon are supposed to start any moment. now both have been understandably delayed in light of this ongoing situation, but we know that pentagon spokesman and john kirby did confirm in a tweet the explosions at. c the abbey gate entrance to the home id cards. i international airport there. cobble and also the baron hotel, which is a couple 100 meters, basically across the street from the airport,

adding that it was a quote unquote complex attack. and as you were mentioning, were also hearing that isis k, which is basically splinter group of isis isis, of the course on may at this point be responsible though that is not confirmed. this is a very fluid situation. as we continue to get updates about the number of dead, the number of injured absolutely a catastrophic and her epic situation. we're also hearing. likewise, you reported that as many as 5 us marines may have been among those injured possibly other americans as well. we're not hearing of any fatalities, but again, the numbers are fluid. again, as those numbers, the scores of people dead and injured africans, men, women, perfectly children continue to come in. we also know that president biden has postponed his meeting with israeli prime minister natalie bennett, that was supposed to happen around 1130 local time here on the east coast.

obviously that's been pushed. we don't have a rescheduled time on that. likewise, chance when miracle has canceled her trip to israel and light of the ongoing situation cobbled french president emanuel mac crone has said that the french embassy cobble will be evacuated due to the situation. and british prime minister boris johnson has also convened a crisis meeting. this evening in london as well. now the u. s. embassy and cobble had issued warnings to americans. as recently as late wednesday to avoid traveling to the airport and cobbled because of unspecified security threats at advised citizens at 3 airport gates to quote unquote leave immediately. and along those lines, australian britain also issue basically comparable warnings that afghan a stand was facing a quote unquote high threat of a terrorist attack. although officials did not specify and provide specific details . the biden administration has previously warned that ice is the is wanting state poses a threat to the overall evacuation mission. again, like i said,

we're waiting more information that will likely come out of both the white house and pentagon press briefings. it's possible and i don't know this for sure, but it's very possible that president biden will have something to say as well. at some point this afternoon, considering americans were involved, and among the injured and again, possibly the dead. we don't know that, but we know at least 5 us marines were injured, along with scores and countless others. so we will continue to update that information as we get back to you. i also have some comments from john kirby, the state farm, or we can time to just briefly here have a listen to this. we can confirm that the explosion at the abbey gate was the result of a complex attack that resulted in the number of us and civilian casualties. we can also confirm, at least one of the explosion at near the baron hotel saw distance from abbey gate will continue to update. the update i keep coming in here at auto international are

roughly video agency, a capture on camera crowds of people outside combo lamp, or just a few hours before the deadline. afghans hoping to leave the country have been gathering in large numbers at the airport since the taliban came to power. earlier this month of the us and its allies controlled part of the transport hub civilians, including children, to a queueing around the security perimeter. hoping to get on board any number of possible evacuation planes. well, let's learn a little bit more now in crossing live. 2 political analysts, chris barry, who's coming on during this breaking news here on the international. chris, a great pleasure to have you on the channel with us. that was evening. the taliban says the explosions happened in the area actually controlled by the united states military soldiers there. but to get there, as we understand, the suicide bombers had to go through taliban control zones, right? how were they missed? how do they get through? do you think? well, the question is,

is how much sympathy the child has isis k one level the to die goes draw. and the small group is, kate does not share the taliban ambition, which is basically it's created islamic and read about down is that just that kind of stuff? eyes this once a caliphate across the world, the whole world potentially and don't expect the existence of a kind of nation states the one dimensional divide between the 2. but the same time, of course pro it isis have recruited from taliban fighters and sympathizers. so this is a nightmare situation. really, the west is a tragic situation. it is a night message, jason, if you recall back in 2001 the justification to the invasion and subsequent occupation of afghanistan, nasal with the suppressed groups. i don't know why it was public enemy number one, eventually use track during the pakistan and executed by the americans. but here we

have trends here. as long as the occupation ends enormously, we have a resurgence of islamic violence from ice. this must be a nightmare scenario. for washington, natal london powers. yeah. chris essentially it's a really, really good point. i guess it's worth mentioning, you know, the end of the day when the taliban really to come to power in the vacuum. does a lot of potentially split into group submitted to groups that of all come into the fold now, but here we are. the taliban flaming these attacks on so called isis k. is it possible chris, that ice is k and the taliban or isis k and isis could start butting heads here on a more serious level? do you think? i think it's very possible. i mean, if you look to what happened in the rebel control zones of syria, precisely what happens. i just know that were diagnosed joining ends up in conway. okay. there's still enough time friendly with the child. but the potential for conflict, a 3 way call to

a conflict. i potential for any disillusion with the taliban. you tell by government feeding groups like eyes. this is all there. and this others, it must be a nightmare scenario the way, because this is what the western nato troops were sent to destroy. the capability of such terrorist groups in weight, like this guy was caught in the way in america u. k. elsewhere. well it's been, it's been in some of the means online already that some people are coming things regarding up kennesaw, the taliban, it took for us presidents and trillions of dollars to take off kindest. on from the taliban to give it back to the taliban. chris talked to us about the, the timing of the explosions around the cobbled airport. why would any militant group target essentially civilians, women, and children who are desperate to flay? what's the point? well, firstly, to point so you can go. so given warnings of this way, as the fact that you sent this to happen is clearly postway that the presence of

american of western troops is an obvious target for any of these groups. secondly, the people trying to get this done by these groups. traces by the taliban, the moment they're allowing them to leave, but suddenly by hard core groups isis. so they have no nope, agitation in kind of a terrorist attack, which fortunately the whole it would be able to kill western soldiers. and it certainly seems to come out of the americans. american soldiers will see this is evolving story, but they're not concerned about killing the people trying to get it. the country's scene is traitors in practice heritage by a group isis that it really poses the question. there are so many what used to be sexual after 20 years won't be patient. you know, you think about how are those people who cited with the occupation stuff the occupation course is going to be regarded by the taliban, isaac k, okay,

and so on and so forth. the potential for blood lighting in afghanistan is actually massive. of course, he's never gone away and the 20th the occupation for, as you pointed out, the occupation was essentially a failure. and the taliban controlled large sections of the country and benefited from american bombing of the billions. which fuel does support the corruption of the pro western organic government? the field support wanted to take over the over capital wasn't such a surprise, decent american military intelligence. so these were predicting that it was the politicians largely didn't act to not and paint them much more picture of the know the guy and government's ability to hold on the direct america need to support what chris was saying. he was saying, there are various european leaders or intelligence community officials who a warning of potential attacks at the moment. they were basically happening. i mean,

you gotta imagine they're not gonna stop hovering right in the space above the canister. you've got to have some of the best satellites in the world. you've got to have american satellites, british, french, german, these satellites, it has bins right now. on car bull, apple, they must have a much better idea of what's happening than that then perhaps, and what they're telling us, chris, what do you thing? well, i think they probably don't know quite what the casualty county will be because that's a very difficult situation in my house. i probably wouldn't injure, but i think you're correct. so they must be focusing all their ability to monitor our phone calls, all their ability to, to satellite my jewel and everything else similar to that area. but in the end of the day, we still know, despite that we have had success tragically successful towards the fact. but i just saw on which got run that by not allowing themselves to be caught eavesdropping of

emails or mobile phone goals. avoiding specialized mix again with the people with crows wearing traditional dress lewis who wearing west and the change very quickly, the taliban began arriving. so it was still a possibility that these pod cool elements mixed in with a population became very difficult for actual people on the grown to deal with situations. and clearly the choice is that main gate and now it's west of moses was designed to kill the western western military. well, as we know, you know, the roughly the past 20 years to taliban, spain, you know, charging death to america. and of course has been on the frontline battling america and nato forces as the occupying and invading forces in afghanistan. so, so the taliban essentially have control around the outside of the cobble apple, the americans and some european leaders that's essentially in control inside the airport. it's interesting though, do you think chris, that he's to tell about it's taking control of the country once again, it's a vast human up,

a mix of other faction militant groups. and yet there are 2 blasts to the cobble apple and the taliban comes out to condemn the attack. it seems that taliban is contained continuing to try and produce a more of a, a moderate p r image of itself. what would you say on that? chris? one of the issues was just divide. the dias gave natal is the product to be involved in the talks with america and the way it's been in the gulf states, they have rejected any such mood. and we've seen of course, the child by this time, right. the says from previous stage, an interesting choice would mistakes, but it has been engaged and talked with prisons. chinese government will be very anxious about security about this time and the possibility of in passing into whose population. so there is this store attempt by the time to pay more for image. but

as i say, how far does that cost with many of the fighters? how many of the commanders? i don't know if we do it? no. and also as people become potentially disillusion, but if attempt was receivers many of these jobs, this might well move on to groups like ices, t m become involved in this type of activity. so this is, it's a put situation at the airport as we speak, try to wait, but it's also a very fluid situation. i've got to say no one knows. i say that this is a sort of exactly what america did. why was what movies actually back into those? why would it be didn't occupied up guys which is being used the base, which i just attacked in that countries in the region d globally. and that is a nightmare, much behind on over all of the west. and we just an ice chris, i wanted to ask you about, i know the u. s. washington. it has come out telling its people telling us nationals to now avoid the koppel airport. and you got to imagine there's still

lots of western, is that in, in couple in the region as well. if you're being told by your embassy essentially avoid the airport and that's your only ticket out of afghanistan. where are you going to go, chris? um, is it possible that sort of westerners could now find themselves in walking? my friend convoy getting over the mountains to try and flee. i've got to stop on foot. i think it's a very low local dimensions, and i don't think many of them will be out for tonight. be very difficult indeed. and of course, it's how bad attention to talk to them every step. i think that is the truth be told, i think these warnings are going to be largely because where you're going to go back to you are going to blow, which is control by that's all of that. i don't think so. would you say the transition id and hopefully got a way to get out. i think that is the option most people would choose because they must feel that a good way to the input was behind the taliban. and how much confidence these

people have been. it's how been all good to speak retribution. what about, what about the american president joe biden? he's already been getting flack from his french counterpart emanuel macro, and boris johnson has said, if you want to flattering things as well, there's been a sense of abandonment expressed by various european leaders in the wake of this. sudden biden withdrawal from ghana. i've got to start, do you think biden is, is in control of, of this situation at the moment or if you kind of flailing in the wind because it seems that in washington, the democratic establishment is already turning on the us president. i think we should remember that donald trump is final agreement, the americans by 10 books bite and it brought that forward the same time. i think the scenes that we saw on the back, the initial evacuations of the chaos brought back bad memories to america and vietnam. and 975. now this isn't quite vietnam, restricted by the united states. it signifies

a bit of humiliation. it's on the scale of what happened and vietnam united states and already were see not just in the united states to the united kingdom. many of those people associated with the original decisions invades and occupied us down and iraq. i'm thinking here pretty premise that will revise being that sort of talk about liberal intervention, reviving that so that really what the occupational guy sounds about was women's rights l g p t, right? it's all the rest of it. ignoring the reality of what the occupation did, which was i oh, you patients fuel support trash way for the tower by in particular the civilian body or civilians by american aircraft, particularly the vino corruption of the west and i've got, i've got i've got a government that we're not in a situation where i think the has to be some discussion that the last people who are going to help you in terms of women's rights. whatever to do is the united

states marine corps. and really this occupation does have to come to an end because it's failed. and it's good to have to be talked on. this is not something i thought my bring this on to say i'm optimistic about, but there are good to have to talk to the child that involving all the governments involved in this, including china and russia, to try and work out some sort of solution which doesn't see, i've got some falling back into the chaos which we see now to decades and christy talk about talk about reaching out potentially for what will be the future international community and, and who will be friends with the taliban because of l. just a militant group, of course they're also a political entity. i mean, chris, it was just a few weeks ago that a taliban delegation was welcomed in jen in china, even in moscow, a very low level of moscow delegation. what was meeting with the taliban here as well? did you think the taliban is off to i don't know. a productive start perhaps

trying to reach out to players like china play. it's like russia potentially play as like iran in china and russia clearly got the worries, but what's happening, i've done what, as i said, the chinese are worried about their own muslim population, discontent. they are, the russians must be worried by their own former soviet backyard and the soviet republics limits missile majority stuff. i can see why post a big and most will want to open up the lines of communication. this. how about precisely to prevent any any increase putting a van okay. in those areas, i think other regional players will be very worried indeed. i think talking to an extent, but i think again one will make efforts to buy. but ryan is much more difficult because of the city divided, and there is no love lost there. as we know, the other players are the gum station, saudi arabia, and what we should remember of us is why he beat the origin. is different from those are the ice, this k,

there's an argument over what the average creation of calbee, i know rejection by isis, that the house of sites, kingdom us idea maybe represent anything like what they ones except that, but there is a similarity. but you know what he is? yoshi geology provides this. i'm the saudi regime and how much support the raise in countries like so do the golf space for ice as we saw some of that during civil war, syria. how much support there is is going to be a very interesting question which the west is always ignored. because because there's such close links to saudi arabia never really was asked any embarrassing questions. what's going on there? really interesting commentary. a political analyst, chris barbara, joining us there when our teens and actual really appreciate it. thanks for joining us. now in the program, we also discussed the terror talk outside cobble airport, with

a number of experts in the region on one could imagine that there would be various groups operating on the ground. the i s on the i s k that is set to be responsible . we need to have a responsibility claim they could be people coming back from the middle east, or at least part of whom i would be coming back from the middle east after you know, participating in the me, him over there and iraq and siri and so on. and they would be claiming legitimacy, and for them, this is an opportunity and the rationale would be those people who are gathered even civilians who are gathered in front of the airport gates are nothing but collaborators and look at the taliban. they are allowing them to go, so they shouldn't be allowing them to go. and basically they, this whole operation would be about telling right wing works 3, missed the elements in the entire,

i've got to stand the tale bond or not the people who are supposed to protect us to protect the religion. and we are. so it's basically a recruitment exercise stealing some of the legitimacy from the town. and if they could kill or injure some of the western soldiers, especially american soldiers, that would be even better. you know, the more the merrier. there is another element as well, which is a bit more strategic or which is that this sort of action would put strain on the evacuation process. it would force more screening. it would put strain on the supply chain of people entering the airport. and so this could force the united states or push it into a position where it might want to extend that 31st of august deadline, which would put strain you know, between the united states and the town about the relation between the united states

and the tolliver so basically all of it is about upsetting the apple cart. and if we think of, you know, terrorists or extremist people then pretty much the same. but if we think about tribal affiliations, then people are different. so this is where are they? those, you know, i s k assuming that they are the ones responsible might be coming from one of the, the criticisms that will, undoubtedly, you will be put forward in any future in investigation or committee. look at this operation will be the inevitability of this, this kind of attack that, you know, the united states created the conditions for this very incident in the manner in which this operation unfolded. so yeah, and we need to realize that just because, you know,

the one bomb went off. there's real potential for additional attacks isis course on is a very sophisticated terrorist organization. and there are still many, many targets out there. you know, we, we went the way we went into couple and the chaos that was generated, you know, lends itself to this, this kind of attack and, and these targets are still there and the citizens are still crammed in americans and british are still stuck in places outside of the airport, awaiting ex filtration. so this is a this is a tragedy. i do think we're going to see increased cooperation between the coalition and the telephone and rapidly ex filtrate identified pockets of foreigners. up until now the telephone has been, provide, is, has been creating more obstacles than, than, than, than facilitation. i think the child on once the americans out now and they will do

everything in their power. now that this attack is taken place to help the coalition get its identified citizens out of cobol, i think that will be one thing that comes out of this. no, because the child understands it. the longer the said these pockets of americans and british and foreigners existing couple of the greater attack from isis. and it makes the terrible look bad. they're supposed to be engendering confidence among the afghan people and indeed of the coalition that they are in control. the security situation and in a check like this, only underscores that nobody's in control is security situation in trouble. right. how far out here in moscow, let's give you a recap of breaking news from august on. there have been 2 explosions south side the international appleton cobble where chaotic evacuation effort has been under way ahead of the us military withdrawal. according to the gun health ministry, 40 people have been killed. a $120.00 injured report say,

for american soldiers are among the dead and 3 among the injured now, the explosions come just hours after western governments had warned of a security threat. a so far, no serious claim of responsibility. atalla by nearly a downplayed terror threat. warnings is a provocation, and it's now saying several of its own gods were injured in the blast along with women and children. there are unconfirmed reports that a terrorist group called isis k, which is an african affiliate of islamic state, may have been behind the attacks. ali reports suggest the 1st explosion was a suicide bomber, while the 2nd explosion is thought of being a car bomb. of a 2nd explosion happened near the baron hotel, where perdition american citizens have been based in recent days awaiting evacuation. several european nations announced early on thursday that they will halting their evacuations from cobbled airport. and there are still around $1500.00 americans and many other foreign nationals still in afghanistan, desperately trying to get out of the country before the us with roll deadline,