these, the western europe that were, that were, that were leveled, were rebuilt, and an afghan to stand except for the roads leading into the mil, between the military bases. you hardly see you hardly see a possible filled the, the cigar. this, the special inspector found that the united states had claimed to build us a i. d had registered that they had built hospitals and gave the coordinates and they would go there and they could not find the hospitals that hospitals and exist . hospitals and schools were, were ghosts and the other. there is great corruption in the afghan government and i'm sure mister guy had a lot of money already outside the country before he, before he left, with his clothes on his back and his angels, already waiting for him. but but the, the vast majority of the vast majority of the corruption look at halliburton,

look at raise the look at boeing. look at the major defense industry is you know, that's, that's what, that's where the that's where the big money is. but why, why, why is that? why is the big money in the defense industry? because the whole deal of about kennesaw, it's about human rights. it's about democracy. it's about women's rights. it's probably about some l g b t as well. it's anti terror not, not come on, isn't it about all that stuff, brian? well, i've just been. it just rose to my attention again. in the 1970 is the study from 1948 by george cannon. who was the u. s. state department, the policy planning study in a foreign relations of the united states. 948, then the world war 2. he was very realistic. you said we have about 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its population. in this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment our real task and the coming

period is devised staff pattern relationships, which are met us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment for national security. we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and daydreaming. we cannot afford the luxury of altruism. we're going benefits that faction we cannot, should dispenser, the aspiration to be light or to be the our brother's keeper. we need to cease to talk about vague and unreal objects such as human rights. raising a living standards democrat is ation day is not far off. you're going to have to deal with straight power concepts. now i think that really has been the policy of united states, except that we've kept the rhetoric it's questionable with united states has ever been all of that algebra stick. and it's foreign policy going back to the, to the wars with the native americans and with the spanish american war, the mexican war has been, you probably think way, but you can always go,

go the old way back in history. or you can people, recent korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, syria, what, why is it the world's most powerful military is so bad? and winning was well, i think it's been pointed out by, by many people, julian shut the scientists, others. randi roy said, pretty much the same words that this war is not one that has was intended to be one it's, it's a war that is not intended to be resolved in any kind of way, but a war that that's to be, to be fostered and continue it's forever war it's, it's back in january when it appeared president biden was suggesting that he might, that we might start funding the selling weapons to the, to the saudis, regarding the war and yemen has not really, really materialized. so greg hayes,

who's the ceo of raytheon, made a statement to his stockholders telling them not to worry biden's talking about cutting weapon sales to the saudis. but he said, what piece is not going to break out in the middle east anytime soon and said whatever you hear from the president, it will remain an area of solid growth of solid growth. so peace breaking out to, to, to, to, to the ceo raytheon to, to the investors are the greatest hope that people are around the world. have the greatest salt, the people who are the people of afghanistan that somehow peaceful break out isn't existential threats to, to, to, to, to the weapons, spend your factors, you talk about war and military, industrial complex and you about and you were about to court eisenhower warning

right, many, many years ago the u. s. public to be capital of the military industrial complex. i mean, you talk about race, you and for example, the clintons and lots of politicians on capitol hill. they have loads of money and race. or the question is on capital hill, why are so many sentences 1000000 as well? because have got an inside track of what they're doing and, and of course they link it to all their foreign policy. i mean, it's almost, it's almost like cove it and the big pharmaceutical companies today, like the big military industrial complex and was as well because at the end of the day, brian big business rules the day. is that right? or no, it is. and i don't in any way, want to give any justification for what happened today at the complex port was an act of terror that should be condemned in all the doubts just of the us, marines and of the taliban. and the all the afghans who are trying to find safe haven deplored and our sympathy and prayers with their families. but this is, this is happening. there is

a chain of responsibility for this. and it is not limited to isis k, which has been just a little while ago is, isn't. and in fact, a product of the us occupation and war. brian tarawa, co coordinator, voice is full creative, going violence. joining us here for a big discussion on audio international. i appreciate that. that was very interesting. thank you. thank you. thank you. i. let's learn a little bit more here. what are you into national live now to medea benjamin co founder of anti will organization code ping. joining us here on the program on our international as we continue with breaking news coverage. medea great to see you. you've certainly been making the rounds for at least 20 years. i remember when i was working at cnn, we used to interview you many times during the opening invasion of iraq and afghanistan job by denali said that the u. s. mission in afghanistan was to prevent al qaeda from enjoying safe havens. and i've gotten this done now with isis k

gaining momentum that you think washington might actually decide to stay. i don't think so, but i think this is so heartbreaking for the afghan people. i have friends there who have italy, but they were saying, well, at least maybe we'll have some security now because the taliban always said we will continue fighting until the foreign forces are gone. now the foreign forces are leaving, and the tale button looks like they're the moderate group. you have this extreme is group of isis k who intentionally attacks girls, schools like has our school where 68 people were killed, or a maternity ward. i mean, who attack intentionally, a maternity ward of course the united states has blown up lots of medical clinics, including doctors without borders. they say they do it, and tensional a i k has done it intentionally. so imagine the ask and people who are thinking,

well. 2 we have the us leaving and but yet now we have a mother of fighting force between the tale, bon and ices, who are enemies and each other. and it's just heartbreaking that there is no end to the war for the afghan people. how do you, what i was going to say, how do you think the african people feel that clearly joe biden is taking a fair amount of flock in america for, for this withdrawal, of course it was, donald trump actually agreed on the date of the withdrawal. but with the, with the current state of affairs. i mean, can you tell us what is the average american thinking right now about joe biden's botched withdraw. my gun is done. unfortunately, all foreign politics in this country is domestic politics. and so now with this tragic attack at the airport, you have republicans who are saying biden, this should be impeached for this the way that the different parties use this

to try to gain some traction is terrible. and the american people in general don't really care about foreign policy. the election is not until the year away, a lot more things will happen on the domestic front. there will distract people's attention. and so this actually allows the congress, as well as the white house, more free reign to conduct a militaristic foreign policy that is not in the interests of the american people. in fact is against our national security. i think it's a good thing that the u. s. is finally leaving afghan of stan. i was against the invasion from the beginning and have been against the last 20 years. and it is just heartbreaking. the way that this is happening. but it does have to happen, and there will never be peace in the middle east as long as the us continues to fuel with weapons and with soldiers and with military bases,

as well as there won't be peace in other parts of the world where the u. s is fueling conflict. as you have been saying, a lot of this is route big money. but it's also because we, the american people haven't done a good enough job to put the pressure on our country to say enough of this military enough of spending. i $750000000000.00 a year on war in afghanistan, $300000000.00 a day. that is needed to address issues at home. so we the public have to stop our government from this militaristic policy i know in the states. so during the time of trump and then of course, by my american friends that were complaining about american infrastructure, they saying the bridges are crumbling, the roads are in disarray. we really need money to be invested in america's infrastructure. and yet with the amount of money spent, and i've got this on, you could have built a $1000.00 hospitals every year. $10000.00 schools, i mean the list goes on and on. and it's just heartbreaking when you read the comparisons as to what could have been done with that amount of us dollars being

spent on. i've got this on medea do you think for a moment that i've gotten a saw might actually teach washington a lesson? well i, i hope so, and i'm certainly doing my best to try to work with all our colleagues in these different movements that are starved for funding to be able to say. now is our moment to say, let's make sure that we don't get in the situation again. on the other hand, what i'm hearing is that by now to look tough now and other places, he can't lead kids to feed in afghanistan. define his presidency and his foreign policy. and so he has to step up the militaristic attitude towards china and russia for example. and that is, that would be absolutely tragic. so we have to push that there is real investigations as to what happened over these last 20 years. why truly in dollars been sent to for this epic failure? and what can we do to cut the wings of our military?

and i think there we have to do what congress women, barbara lee has been saying, which is, cuts the military budget by have $350000000000.00. and that will make us more secure, as well as bring up money. we need to address real crisis, like the climate crisis in the pandemic was a huge amount of money and it's, it's to say, cut it in half that. so that's a pretty daring thing to suggest when it comes to the biggest military in the world with the biggest military budget in the world. you talk about cutting the wings of the military. you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of talk about as you were saying that joe biden looking tough. it's really important for the american president to always look tough when he's doing it's bits of foreign policy. the guy looks discombobulated i the guy looks really confused, every time is at the teleprompter and he said in the press conference, you'd almost think it would be better for the journalists here. joe biden took the teleprompter and turned it around to the journalist and they could get through it more quickly than him. joe biden. just really bloated without going on. is this going to be the smear on his legacy?

well, as i said, i think people are more concerned about domestic issues. and if the manages to pass these law urge budgets with money for infrastructure and money for the needs of the american people, i think they will be more concerned about that. but i also want to say that i think the american people really want, who is a diplomat, i'll never forget when a bama was running for president. and there was a debate and they were asked, would you meet with us? is adversaries. and of obama said i would meet with all of them with pre, without pre conditions. and he got the most applause of any buddy in that entire debate. americans want diplomacy? we want cooperation. do we have to be sold these wars on the basis of live lives and more lives? so i think the white house you get wives with this should start negotiations to solve problems with other countries. jobs the economic warfare against countries

from iran to venezuela, to cuba, to north korea that are hurting so many people. and show that like china, we can cooperate in helping to build other countries in their economies that would help us here at home. instead of bombing occupying and causing misery, this is just the media. could you raise a good point, for example, africa, the bread basket continent of the, of the, of the planet in china's been building. busy infrastructure, building roads, bringing the internet, telephone poles, ports, all sorts of interest structure. whereas some other name countries go in with bombs and bullets. perhaps the chinese method is, is potentially more diplomatic, more productive in the long run. well, we will see absolutely in afghanistan, that the u. s. after spending 2 trillion dollars in the lives of our soldiers, it is now china that will go in and be doing these deals with app can stand that

will improve the lives of people because they desperately need this in your directory. and when you think, what could have been done with can trillion dollars to take afghan, a stand for being a poorest countries in the world to a middle income country. boy, you could have drops, drops, plain loads of cash from the guy, and done more than the us did in these 20 years of misery and f kiana's stand. so yes, instead of looking at china as the adversary, the u. s. should look at china and say, how are they making friends around the world? and i think it's so interesting with the vice president campbell, a harris in vietnam right now, that the u. s. was going to announce that it was giving a 1000000 doses of the vaccine to vietnam. and china preempted by saying we're giving to 1000000 doses. well that's the kind of competition i think would be good . who could be doing more to help people around the world in the pandemic get out of poverty, provide electricity, clean drinking water. there's so many things that we need to do and could be doing by this kind of positive competition. medea benjamin co founder of and he will

organization code pink. joining us here live on asi international. great to see you as always. media, thanks for joining us on the thank you i. let's cross back live now to water and i've got to start off season. what i'd gas did is live again in the capital region . i'm just getting into the wee hours of the night for you to go out. i know you confirm 2 explosions of the apple today. but since then, and the hours of the evening, you've been hearing jets possible bombing campaigns, an additional blast. what can you tell us while the, the activity that we're hearing air activity bought by nate, who aircraft it hasn't led up any still intense, you know, a few minutes at this point don't pass without the rule of jet engines. overhead we haven't heard any additional explosions since,

since we last talked for the past hour or so. but from what we've learned, at least the number of those explosions, there was 7, i believe, counted all over capital. i never, those explosions came from the airport. and that was us, the u. s. military detonating their assets at the airport. so perhaps sensitive equipment, things that they can't evacuate, things that they can't take could take out of, of got a spot and they don't want to risk falling into the hands of the taliban. but that is only some of them we've had explosions and in other directions there's also been shooting that has been ceaseless to and we're talking here not only about the airport where, where it doesn't end, but all over the city. that is perhaps the taliban tried to trying to establish order as to what's happening at the airport. of course, those, those 2 explosions that happened earlier today. isis is claimed responsibility

since officially for both explosions, one a suicide bombing bobbing at the north gate. a checkpoint, manned by us servicemen at 1212 us servicemen killed 15, injured the united states as his promise to respond to those that were behind this attack. once they find out the stablish, precisely who was by the, the other to explosion between the baron hotel, which was used by american and british, predominantly military as well as the diplomat stamp big. these is the people that they would then evacuate between that hotel and a checkpoint that now between may be just the road, but it is packed with people, absolutely packed like sardines and cab honesty. there's, there's no better way to describe. but when we drove past the airport yesterday, there was a pressure of people, hundreds of meters, a thick press of people,

shoulder to shoulder, chest, a back standing screaming, waiting, pushing, shoving, waving papers, trying to get into the airport. that's still that the spot, the explosions. they're still, they're trying to boot those final jets flying out of capital airport. we expect more comments from the united states. we've heard from some officials, very hiring things. one public personality urged the military to destroy and afghan city for every american the does. that there is a lot of emotional to a lot of emotional coverage people believing the taliban. isis blaming. politics blaming the president joe biden for what has happened here. there's a lot of, i'll go over the loss of life. obviously this, there's more to more here and gobble for afghans. 60 people reported dead. so for another subject to change. judging by the heroic images that we saw from both sides

where the explosions took, took place, the bombings, the civilian casualty county could be, could be way hot more than 160 people injured. and they could be more attacks. that is what is feared. i was the biggest fear now. we spoke to the taliban minister of information earlier today. his 1st interview since being appointed to, to, to the press. and he told us in the, in a room of the ministry of information that it was they who warned the americans and their allies, that there was a threat. they judged a team that lou would 1st. that is the taliban. it was, it wasn't specific, could have been a bombing, could have been shooting spring rounds into the ground, a crowd who hoping for the 1st time beat, but the americans and their allies, the british especially issued urgent warnings messages that there was an imminent threat and well, it came to fruition that with that threat, with those explosions,

the suicide bombing, and the car bombing. reportedly, the threat is ongoing, it is persistent. there could be more attempts to get close to the airport made all that much more simple by the crowd, the, the press i. it is impossible to detect someone early on as suspicious person as suspicious vehicles as they mingled through the crowd and approached the checkpoints. by the time they realize that there is a threat and i'd already is too late. so there is very some truth to what the taliban is saying, that the situation can be made secure until that crowd is gone. and that crowd doesn't appear to want to disperse until the last jet departs until all hope of the vacuum evacuation and the americans. fates, because the taliban has said, the evacuation can continue when nato troops around that they're fun with allowing

american european passport holders, people with visas to leave, to evacuate, have got to start piece of the civilian airlines. whether that's the truth we'll, we'll find that, but certainly a lot of people here in capital, they taking the taliban at their would the scenario nearly half off one of the morning where you are now more than as you've been talking to us live here on our international i could hear in the distance, the low hum of some big, heavy aircraft flying not far from you now. so as you say, it's not a calm and quiet night there in the afghan capital autism or that guys stand by. we'll see you soon. but i'll a recap of breaking news from afghanistan. here, when are you there? i've been to confirm the explosions outside the international airport in cobble where chaotic evacuation effort was underway. ahead of course, the u. s. military withdrawal, reportedly 60 people killed at 150 injured. the pentagon confirms 12 american soldiers are among the dead. the explosions come just hours after western

governments had been warned of a security threat that the terrorist group called isis k, which is an afghan affiliate of islam is status time responsibility for the 1st attack. the group has been caught in conflict with the taliban since 2015. an early report suggest the 1st explosion was a suicide bomber. the 2nd was a car bombing. well, for the meantime here on our team to national, you can catch off on any of the breaking news. anytime you are ready for it at c dot com for the meantime, your program returns at the top of the hour. ah, join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to get from the world, the politics sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. me

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