the folks welcome to dennis miller plus one. that should be fine. as i studied on the nick mohammed, left for is lee is a british actor, comedian writer. i think i read recently that the james cordon is missing the white cliffs of dover and might go home. i think if they want to continue with somebody from that side of the pond with a great sense of humor, a very nice accent, they might, they might consider our friend to take his place is best known for his role as nathan shelley and probably the hot show and television right now. apple tv pluses . ted last. so with jason's today, you see also appeared in film such as the martian bridget jones baby nix, nominated, also for our standing supporting actor and a comedy series for his performance. and last season to is now streaming on apple

tv. plus please welcome nick mohammed. thank you for that intro. very kind. and yeah, if james couldn't, you know, wants to hang up on me all. i'm all is. yeah, i want to, i wasn't making a quality judgment on james. i just remember it's such a lovely speaking voice and i know, i think that's part of james laura is late at night. and i thought, boy, i would look into this guy because that thing you did on that chat show in england . and i don't know who that cat is, but it's funny off times chat show hosts have to get into some sort of robotic trance where they laugh and just be congenial because they've got to move it along and who need somebody who's being a 1st budget. they were laughing so hard that you seemed stupefied that you would reduce them to that level and it was, it was a clip of you doing. the great can see you have of encapsulation of sound

tracks. tell me when you had stat or use you have stand up comedy in your pass, tony. yeah, yeah. so i've always done. we're not always done, but since you know before kevin act, so i sort of comedy and still be coming out always in character rather than put a stand up and yet as a character id called mr. swallow and yeah, i think you're referring to is him singing along to the direct park theme. tune words that he's written which effectively for summarize the plot of drastic park. and so yeah, it seems to be around them. youtube and facebook and like and yeah, it follows me around, it's the thing that people harangue me and they never get recognized. so anything in the street and your address, the problem that i'm like, well, you know, that's, that's john williams, the great american count school competitor. and i've bastardize his his theme and put words to it, but yeah, well, i love the little moves bush. you gave them of the jobs,

the folks to put this. it might sound like comedy obscure or what we're talking about. but like, for instance, the jobs, the as like my like, it's a clever how he encapsulates the plot, as he said, and uses the soundtrack too, and go watch the drastic park. one. it is a standing, and i was wondering, i'm such a huge soundtrack fan. did it come from places you love some drugs? oh he, he honestly, i'll be obsessed. i've got a like a big collection now, like cds and i just thought of the kids and dress and thought was one of the 1st, you know, when i was 10, when the phone came out, i think and that was one of the 1st contracts that i got huge from william span. huge james horner. but yeah, i still listen to the great cd label called in trotter. and that's going to re release a lot of the kind of soundtracks that were made in the eighty's and this sort of digitally. we must think remastering a load of days and i'm a huge, huge fan. yeah,

go back one, collect and get a book that i just finished by 85 goal. it might be, it might be, it's spelled di fi, go about yon berry who is. yeah, you might not know him as well, but when you put out of africa together with you know, going back to goldfinger, he wrote, he took money, norman song and made it to gold. the james bond theme, it was just a great book about quite possibly the greatest soundtrack grader ever. and you might enjoy it anyway. talking outside of shop. listen, this last so i you know what, i don't know, soccer. i don't know what put you off a show it to be getting not, not put you up, but doesn't hook you. everybody has a set of things. when i heard it was about soccer. in the interim, i have talked to people who tell me what an uplifting show i like the i am going to binge it this weekend because i understand it's very positive. i like jason. i've

met jason over the years. i think he's a charmer. i just sort of thought, i don't know anything about soccer, i'm lucky, much suck i hear. that's the last component that is inter goal to the spirit of it . i hear it's very sweet, uplifting show. correct? yeah, that's correct. i think i, you know, it is superficially about about soccer football and the premises that jason plays a coach that an american football coach comes out with the coach, premier league football team in the u. k. but yeah, that's, that's not not incidental because you know, it's a big part of the show, but you don't have to be found to enjoy the show. i think there is a lot of impulsivity and so many fun and varied characters in the show that kind of inhabit this world and surround pads that yeah, that make it really uplifting. and hopefully can resonate with anyone you know, whether you're a sports fan or not. i mean, not, you know, i'm personally not a huge football fan or so compound or anything. and that, you know, i, i, you know,

by, because i'm in the show by, you know, i love it and totally, it's a real refreshing show. why i didn't mean to be clumsy at the beginning, talking about why i didn't watch it. it's just that there's a 1000000 things to watch and something got a snag, me like, like fly fishing? like i got, i got to go. i got to go for the fly. when i heard soccer, i kind of went up, but i can't wait to get back because i met today cuz a couple times. and i find him as a sat there with them comedian sort as each other out at the beginning that this is a super bright guy about the human condition. there was a lot more there than just jokes. he seems to have a stranglehold. and indeed his year has been circulated that probably i find it odd for him that he has personal turbulence and his greatest career thing. but just season is going to be super interesting. yeah, i mean you're in the listen. jason is an absolute legend. now the show is,

you know, that impacts if energy he has in that warmth and that sort of spirit. he have absolutely, you know, those kinds of things filter down from the top bill lawrence as well. you know, they, they just got such a clear vision. the show they knew what they want. it's, you know, they set out to create the show with the tone that is, i think it, you know, it obviously helped know helped. that's the wrong kind of whether the defendant over the global pandemic. i think that the show resonated with maybe more people than it would have initially because, you know, i think people were really in need of something that had a real kind of woman hopeful message in real optimistic energy to it. you know, at time that people really need it, but i think this was gonna be what it was, you know, going to be, you know, irrespective of that and yeah, they're just smart guy. it's like you say that just so super clever. so she did emotionally to kind of like turned in emotionally, you know,

one of the saddest parts of modern life for me is the fact that we have to qualify sentiments. you do just got hung up on it there. i probably get hung up on a 10 times a day. i hate that we have to go around and do immediate patch up, work on things like it probably help. everybody knows that nick mohammed is not, you know, sitting there talking about how coven could help. but he, they were so gun shy now, you know, that's just a low grade. that's how we talk about humans game indicate, and yet we spent so much of our day now. i know about you, i have a spell check that goes off as i'm talking for living and i go go back in tampa top . don't move on much further before you put that fine. of course it is mean that it helps people are sitting at home feeling a little hang dog they come in. there's a brilliantly funny show that has a nice effervescence about it that that is completely for the initiated to tell the people just the basic outline that shows he's

a american football coach who ends up gimme a little. he told. yes so. so jason plays had last i who is an american football coach who comes over to k, a u k premier league football team but doesn't really know the rules of football and he get the proper kind of fish out, sit, come in that respect and you know, very much plays it that the u. s. u k culture class to a degree. but, but there's more, there's more to it than that because i, the phrasing the show which is sort of the be curious not just mental. and that, that's what kind of ted is, you know, rather than resisting difference or sort of combating it being kind of aggressive towards any kind of difference or cynical he, he's like, ok, well, for the peach me and sort of show me why you know, your way is the best way and you know, he go through all of his interactions and all the different characters he comes across. he ends up making really pops different to everyone's lives and it really

kind of, it just makes it very warm, positive show. and i think, you know, i'm a big fan of sort of snarky comedies and doc comedies and cynical comedies. but i think they show sort of seem to so, but the trend little bit in that respect and it feels very refreshing. the results of that and and yeah, it just, it just felt like, you know, exactly the kind of show that we will, we will need it and, you know, jason, so from a and i was gonna say, just before is what i think that those rights isn't that creates a team is so good is working this fine line at being able to deliver on the comedy the also deliver emotionally and in terms of character development and so on. and often so often another comedy, comedy, drama. it feels like you're kind of sacrificing want for the other one. i think they just manage to try this very fine line, you know, and then the backdrop is soccer. so, you know, no incidental but not important. i find him a insightful knave to the degree that i've read about it and watched

a few moments of it. i thought, oh, i see he is a bit of a knave through life, but he's he has, he's the one who absolutely knows what humanities. i find that in fox again, i think it's very smart of him. next time i see him, i'm just going to say, i respect you so much. i'm not even going to ask you how this guys surname ended up being last. so unless they convey them to show it is such a funny choice. right off the bat that makes me curious that they'd be sitting there as j. pearlman trying to figure out character day is, will color so that's so plenty to, i don't know how that's come about because i'll see that the car came off the back of the, the commercials back in 2013. and so yeah, i don't know. i don't know the answer to that. you know, i don't quite know what the means are going to be this year. it seems to me that they're putting people in diving bells to keep them apart from each other. so nobody transfers this you. you might be hurt, walker suits all sitting there. it might be done from home,

but you're up for one. it's exciting, but it's also weird ramp up into because the artistic side of yourself in the humble part yourself is that what i, when fi and then there's a killer for me. please. yes, i miss. i'm right at the gates with moses. i want to win this damn it. so it's, it's a, it's a funny, it's a dual track leading up to it, right. it's a funny, okay. i mean listen, i feel so grateful and, you know, let me clean on by my think it's it so they can tell the. so, you know, i almost, you know, to be nominated, happy to stay for the same but yeah it's, it's a lovely thing, but yeah, i mean, who knows if i think i think the promise for that to be an in post ceremony, i don't think they'll be an audience, but you know, who knows what kind of brings it might end up being, you know, like a virtual thing or whatever, all that we will cannot connect to. you know, we'd have to travel to the states. i don't know. you know,

i'm just is delightful. to be nominated and especially along side so many of you know, fellow actors intent said lasso as well, but yeah. who knows, which way it's going to go i, i have my i my this which made my go for. yeah. well, i know more about intelligence than i do about the last, despite, and i think i don't know if that was up for this year, but that show makes me laugh very easily. i'm a shimmer fan, you his sancho panza in the we'll talk more about it. i want. i want to talk about intelligence after the break. we're joined by our, our friend, nick, well haven't of the show is last. of course, you know, it's been nominated for, i believe over 20 emmys coming up. he of course up for the best supporting actress season to now streaming on apple tv, plus and indeed it shows like this or put the floss in the apple tv plus they will have it right up to this one. dennis miller plus one

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the folks. welcome back to dennis miller plus one, enjoying our time with nick mohammed and a he is a british actor, comedian writer era, parent james coordinate late night. tolliver, i'm just putting that out there myself. i'm trying to trying to bait that hooked. and you've seen him in the marsh and british bridget jones baby. and he also, i believe i think he's a creator writer. i know he's one of the stars of intelligence, but i also think this hatched out of mohammed. mohammed's beam. tell me about intelligence. it's on season 2 on peacock, david schwimmer, the the ultimate gordon, las guy and you sort of guy who idle operates right off his right shoulder is probably shocked to find out for us and he such a dog. yeah, i'm so glad that you guys with all of it. yes. so i, i created the show i right to show and yet david, you know,

we are on the show together. yeah. so the labor of love, i do want to write workplace comedy. i had, i was to me but if i there, you know, running it sit, call me about this with a bunch of bubbles. so against the sort of huge state, the national security. and then i'd worked with david a we, we kind of crossed paths on a pilot, i co written with julie davis that david was maybe going to be involved in. and so we did some sort of workshop, improv stuff together. and that's how we met that was a few years ago now and that, that she didn't, didn't, didn't get picked up, but they've not had stayed in contact. and he'd said, you know, if you ever, you know, you have to think of another way to sort of, you know, allow kind of like an american up integration coming in. feel she home, you know, let me know. and i'd have, if i dare about getting a call me about about g c h q, and i be quite phone and quite, you know, not know beyond the realm of possibility that say age and you know, the equivalent organization in the states. and then this asian as publish at

intelligence initiative, could have to come over and work with these guys and have a completely different way of working in a kind of classic fish. i would say some so yeah, i sent david to the page outline and he, you know, he was on board and yeah. then you know, when they commissioned the season, the love seat and so yeah, i kind of got right saying and yeah, we have a great time making that show and you know, season we didn't have a pilot. we went straight to the 1st season and so i feel like i learned a lot reading see the wall and but yes, you can see which out on came on peacock in july i think june july yeah, i'm super proud of cuz it feels like we really kind of hit that one and super time with it. like i said earlier, you get hooked by things i get hook, bye. sure. me or wherever i see swimmer, i think you know if somebody's swim resent it. i go out. i yeah, he was so good on that. i've seen him play the plastic surgeon if you've ever seen that movie, where he plays a decorative plastic surgeon and that was that, oh,

you have to watch. he's just great. one of the guy events breast augmentation i believe or something i got, he's very sleazy, slimy, sort of a dallas. he's just graded. so what i saw him, i started watching live and believe this is where i knew your work from before i knew it from there. i love the fact what he's introduced to the judi dench for lack of a better comparison. m. hey matt, it's mostly over inside of out all that. i saw the guy that movie laugh rory, honestly and are you writing it alone? are you off in a room alone? nigger? yeah. tell me to me. yeah. yeah, completely. right. and so they like remote or anything. so right. and then you know, i'm saying that it's, it's very collaborative. once i've written a 1st draft, i send out the swim and swims business by the time as well, who,

who's an exec on the show and the executive him a one. and there isn't the director, you know, we all kind of, you know, will read and we'll pitch and then i'll go away and, you know, redraft and stuff, but yeah, i right. cologne. and it's quite yes, quite quite sacrifice. and he feels, sometimes it's like, you know, because you have responsibility doing that. but i love it. and because it's kind of collaborative and creative atmosphere. you know, once we get to the filming, you know, we'll, we'll try and mix it up a little bit. and you know, if we want to play with it, play around with it a little bit more, we will do a little bit of in proven stuff. so yeah, it's, it's, it's a real treat to get to work with, you know, arguably one of the greatest generation, you know, stone killer, you never drop a line every time there was a kill shot on friends. you'd look at him and perry to, there's a to a, i listen shows just great, obviously. but there's a company guys you could tell. they said we've got to kill scott here. could we go to? and those 2 were just a matter. they were not think of doors they were, i'm out of doors. yeah. listen so many people are in erotic about confronting their

muse. i'm. i'm ensure that you can write it yourself. i always found any time to write something in life. if i knew did it of the magic sword from the stone thing and said listen, you've got to work opportunity here. it goes away at this time. if you don't sit and start hitting the keys or the writing on the legal pad, i always try that rating for me. what's your process? how do you, can i completely agree? i think, you know, kind of calling yourself or right or the price of the right is this much for the psychological barriers. anything if you, if you can just allow yourself to just talk to just type and it doesn't matter if it's not good in the 1st instance because at least you got something to make better, i guess. and so, yeah, i right, you know, i, we, we come up with episode outlined, quite detailed and usually kind of get approval from the channel and from, from the other effect from the show just that, you know, from a story point of view, this is all kind of getting in the right direction and the fees and all that kind

of acts up. but then i'll just sort of dive into into the script and make the right in order. but, you know, occasionally if, if i know that the c and i just want to write because i can visualize it also to know for the bits of dialogue that i think would work for you. i'll just kind of go ahead and write and then sort of piece it together a little bit like a jigsaw about, you know, an occasionally also the flip side of that is if it's a thing that you don't really know, you think what i know that this is going to happen in the scene, but i just don't have to write to see it. i'll just for the missed the alphabet and maybe come back to the place placeholder in that. but yeah, it's just about, you know, just keeping on going and then. yeah, i just saw, right documentary, by ken burns, who's our leading documentarian here in america. and it was about ernest hemingway and hemingway said that he would sit out and he said he would just try to write one true sentence, one in inherently true sentence. and then he would branch out from that. he said he would always leave the next day's 1st 20 minutes in his head, not on the page,

you know where he was going to go. but he said, i didn't want to come in and restart again. say, can't the going, he get those 20 and then he said the rewrite was everything and i always, you know, he's such a genius in a declarative sense. but it's such a brilliant conceit that you just get on with it. at some point it cannot always be all magic touch to me where to go for. so you can procrastinate as well, but just to get on with the best thing you can do. there are, i'm faster as a buyers, i to love magic. i never took it up, but i'm fascinated by it. i had performed and of course my life with 10 and 10 and teller who i was fascinated by them. i had dinner with steve martin a few nights ago and we were talking about him starting out at disneyland as a midget magician. and he showed me the 1st tricky did. and i can see that it's almost like surfing for magicians. it's something they can ride their entire life

that they draw a solid from it. and i think you're, you're, you're still a big, it's translated into some children's novels. but when did you get the bite for magic? as a, as a child lab for the child, you know, i was obsessed to the magic. so my birthday, i think i was like, fool. and yeah, i just, you know, enjoyed the like the genie factors, you know, the magic circle, which is, you know, magic club in the yeah, i'd love to ever since i've worked freshly the magician before you know, doing comedy and thing and pay my way free university and stuff, and i still love it, you know, i so reading tons of magic books and you know, practicing tricks and you know, fly pat and stuff with cards. and even though i, you know, i would rarely perform perform because, you know, acting is sort of them ok to a writing as well. but i still absolutely adore. and it will be a fascination that will never go away. and i think they think that when you're into it, you are just obsessed to that you kind of sort of not than ever be sort of like halfway

in or out of it. you know, i just, you know, i think about it all the time. i love watching it, jason is as well. a huge magic, but i think it's quite common with comedy, you know, as well. i think a lot of comedians have a secret secret passion for magic. now then there's jerry seinfeld, what took the opposite approach? he used to do a joke, i remember his actor, it hits. i don't like magic to me magic the still is. here's a quarter. now it's gone. your said, sadly, the real truth to that sort of like quite poor magic being well, but when you say when you see good magic been, well it's like, you know something a b l where you were or you adapt a close up or what were you in the grand gesture and where i can think of you in like marcia and your trailer, if you could probably work on your coin, dexterity in there for hours. but did you, did you like close up where you adapted?

yeah. close to the thing i've done the day like, you know, work at wedding hotels and restaurants doing kind of close up going from table to table. so yeah, that's what caught called more than coin, but yeah, yeah, i love it. and still that i think i did a gig last night with things so much because it's quite nice to. yeah, i think just because they'll call things in it. so yeah, it's nice to much to go back into all of that stuff. are you familiar with tony slide deni? he was one of the greatest slide show slide 123 thing and the fly daily handkerchief placement and the and then they fall apart. yeah. love it of all that, all that classic stuff. this is killers, you know, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant stuff. steve did a variation on slide dean, exact very called a fly genie and they had a fake. are going to use this 3rd had to come from his soup for did he go to the car to you all one light. it just made me laugh at such a surreal,

said saint martin as fly deni doing close out of this car to you all has to be the most surreal thing ever listed in the world of magic. well listen to children's novel is the young magician's and the 24 hour telepathy plot to children. novels by our friend. and the other one is the magicians and the thieves all one act. he's writing a great show which i'm much more familiar with the law. so at this point called intelligence look for season to over on peacock. he is up for an emmy for ted last a best supporting actor. i hope he wins and he has a hell fellow. well met. we've enjoyed our time and went so quickly. i didn't even notice that fern growing over his left shoulder, which started today as a small piece of like an app that has not turned into an absolute being stuck over his shoulder. this time next. thank you so much for having me that it's taken

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