z o o z the, the signing of the us to all about agreement. and i've laid the groundwork for the road ahead toward a lasting peace in afghanistan. and i know we still need that. i'm a dunaway and as i have the more than 100 dead, 1300 injured the tragic aftermath of a terrorist attack. they shook cobble airports with crowds of people, both afghans. i'm foreigners, but crammed together, waiting to be evacuated from the country, and islamic state affiliate enough, gonna stand on. as i said, k says it carried down the following. experts revealed to us more about the group. this group actually is a direct byproduct of the us invasion and occupation of afghanistan. they didn't

know they were such a drug. why were you being green in the removal of those books knowing that you were about to leave behind an incredible amount of weaponry. and an emotional televised address president biden via to continue with the evacuation plans and to track down those responsible for the a trusted. we will not forgive we will not forget we will hunt you down to make you pay. ah, by that thanks so much for joining us. here on artsy, international i've got this done is still reeling from a devastating bomb attack in the capital of the now taliban run. country to explosions rocked the international airport. the codes at the center of western

evacuation efforts more than a 100 people were killed, including us military personnel. i must warn you may find these pictures coming up . disturbing. one of the blast happened at an entrance to the airport, where afghans were waiting in line to be processed to fly out explosion towards who the crowds bodies were thrown into a sewage drain located near by. people have been amassing at the site the day trying to flee the taliban return and exposed to the vest. we said to have been using one of the attacks of ca, bowman, the other. another explosion shook an area around hotel weapons. british officials were processing ask guns to fly to the new k wouldn't 1300 people were injured to explosion. 30 and us service members among the dead. 28 caliber members also shows on the eastern, i guess the of is in cobble and told us how the tragic events unfold. what were several kilometers away from the airport and yet still we can hear the stream of

vehicles, the sirens blaring drive and pass to and from the direction of the airports, ambulances of rescued vehicles. they have been 77 blas according to local press and other jobs we have distinctly heard for so for explosions in the last half. now we had 2 more to move. one of them was much more powerful than the rest we have since learned that at least one of the designations was a controlled bloss carried out by the american military. us troops here, the activity that we're hearing air activity bought by the way across. it hasn't led up any still intense, you know, a few minutes at this point don't pass without the rule of jet engines. overhead just to bring everyone up to speed that were to bloss one of the northern check port. northern entrance to the airport in one of the eastern end at the barren

hotel, which had previously been used by us and british servicemen as well as diplomats to the afghans and to approve back you ations. it hasn't been used as such in that capacity for several days, but the press of people is ease. you know, it's hard to believe until you see it with your own eyes. there are no, there is no drone footage due to security reasons. and you can't capture the massive people the, the press of the mob with just the simple video, you know, short, short from up top, a 2nd floor or something. it is impossible to provide security at the airport as the situation stands. i, it is believe that one of the suicide bombers was, was she that he approached the airport. he was detected by the people in the crowd and the upon detection. he hurried over to the american personnel at the check

point. and it's such a type pack of people at the exclusive device. you, you said also have devastating consequences. they determine the teams now to prevent more attacks. but as the situation sad you have taliban said themselves, it is impossible to provide the guarantee security. here was those people are that will. busy be the problem is that a huge number of people are gathered near the airports and there was a threat that the single person, one person alone can carry out an attack and killed people in order to damage the taliban reputation. this is not a significant, there's not a big threat. we're monitoring the situation at the airport. they blame the united states to this, these, these crowd, this press, this mob outside the airport, which stretches the kilometers which circles the entirety of the apple take. the united states encouraged them to come and said it would evacuation, bring them the greener pastures that the to europe, to america. and the taliban says that until the united states leaves it will not be

able to provide the security needed to prevent these types of attacks. and whether you believe that or not, well, it depends on who you are. many people here at the airport. they believe that they can't say that the taliban will persecute them as a threat to their lives, the safety of their families. other people in that more than that presser there for the opportunity, trying to get out of, of got this done. never the last, the situation remains incredibly ted's, both the taliban and nato countries have warned that there is a persisted that the threat is high and it is ongoing. the united states has promised that they will find those responsible and that they will take action. since the isis isis k and i just off shoot in the gamma spot and claim responsibility for these attack islamic state correson, which is a regional affiliate to revise this is claimed responsibility head of the blast,

the u. k. u. s. and other western nations have been warning the nationals about the threats of a severe terrorist attack and advising them to avoid the airport. you spoke to ali hassan who was in the airport when the 1st explosion occurred to dave into the airport. of course i was standing and if it was near to the get you and they used to. so i was very close to like 5 minutes away. i just saw there was like 4 to 5 minutes they had and they had to run. there was looking look, danish people renewed the duration parliament, a difference of them, the type of the type of groups waiting. guess we're looking, we're suspicious. they didn't have guns, but they was looking for the airport. they was looking to be used troops. they will it 100 the mentors when they get back to my lined i, when they get back to the line, i was with the people like after 12 or 2 minutes. an explosion happened on the

weekend. it was near. it was near to the lake 1st, then away. an accident happened. didn't go on 1st. started your the gone for the victim, the $78.00. the gun gunfire was when they get to the line, the you guys that they were behind the uses the guns. i mean your camera after the youth group, they call the people that stay away, stay away. what did people did? and they told me with the money that was always paid and just to stay and then the used tubing, gas, gas, and smoke. when the people the day, you know, they threw like 6 to 7 gas in people. the people who really need to get there was like 5 to 6 woman danger. difference was born and it was sitting there was going on the grounds. the i splinter, great behind thursdays, bombings,

has been active in eastern afghanistan and pakistan and nor stay savage campaign of bloodshed when it was founded in 2015. the we did hear about this group for example, and i believe, april 2017 when trump and essentially authorized the pentagon to drop the mother of all bombs in eastern afghanistan. i believe in the non ga har province on ices k.

but the roots of this group in its existence is poorly understood. and of course, when we hear these press briefings at the pentagon, there's very little context. this group actually is a direct byproduct of the us invasion and occupation of afghanistan. it grew out of the pockets, donnie taliban, who were disgruntled tally bon members who wanted to carry out attacks on us targets inside pakistan and afghanistan. one of their most spectacular attacks was on camp camp chapman, a u. s. military base where they used a c. i turn coat to attack us soldiers. there are several other attacks on american assets. and this all led to a rise of terrorism inside pocket on directly related to the u. s. presence and afghan asked and 6 years ago, the pakistani taliban, which was widely suspected of being used by the african government, backed by the u. s. against pakistan, turned into isis k. essentially it's the same thing as isis. so most viewers with

no slumming state of iraq and syria, right. isis, which was this group that took over in 2014, 2015 big swath of iraq. and. and by the way, who were able to do that because of massive amounts of military equipment that the us left behind, specifically in iraq, that's where they really got their weapons from. they went into iraq, took those home, these are weapons and went back into syria, isis k, which is the islamic state of correspond, which essentially means eastern. they don't like the taliban, they're not friends with the taliban. they've been fighting the taliban. but more importantly, they'd been fighting us and i bring up the point about the weapons because we just did the exact same thing and dennis and left behind, unbelievable amounts of us military equipment, massive amounts of weaponry and guns black hawk helicopters from these. we left it all there the same way that we did in iraq. so we could be creating a very similar problem of what we saw 20142015 with the other isis. but isis k is far from being the only faction able to carry out such attacks that warning,

coming from the afghan national resistance, front, which patrols the so which controls the pan, she valley an area. now seeing this being the center of anti taliban opposition as foreign relations had believed the terrorist threat in the country right now, he's even stronger than it was 20 years ago. it could be, i says, cables we think there are, there are other elements plan the attacks. and that might have perpetrated such attacks against us soldiers and was a terrorist attack on the watch of the taliban. a group that says we are able to provide security and now in one day we see numerous terrorist attacks happening on the watch, unfortunate b international terrorism. and i've got a son as much stronger compared to 2001. this is something that the national resistance front of afghan is on, has been saying for the past year. we believe the international community should

help our efforts to combat or national terrorism, and in 1900 on the, to the international community, abandon the dentist, them. and we saw how afghanistan became a haven for terrorists groups. the same will happen if the international community abandoned the candidates into 2021. there's no pose threat towards everyone. no one is exempt. and terrorism is after every state, whether it's part of the western world or the eastern. the rush to leave in the ensuing panic was all to meet the august 31st withdrawal deadline, which was joe biden school. however, he's now presiding over the deadly stay for the us military. and if canister a more than a decade and the televised the dresser, not tom's emotional president vowed revenge, said the s is to get people out of the country would continue. here is that you need to know the isis tears will not win. we will rescue the

american city. we will get our afghan allies and our mission will go on. the evacuation will continue and that the united states will get out any and all american citizens and african nationals were permanent, us residency, what's known as a green card, who want to leave. he said some people may not want to leave, but those who want to leave the u. s. will make every effort to get them out. he said it is an airline airlift mission, unlike any other in history and was expected to be dangerous and stressful that was planned for also attacks. there had been warnings about attacks. he called those u. s. service members. now, i believe the numbers don't up to 13 who are killed, quote unquote heroes saying they are the backbone of america who are engaged in a dangerous southwest mission to save the lives of others. and that the mission will and must continue. now, more than ever, and he had this message for those responsible was to those who carried out this attack as well as anyone who wishes america harm. no. this

we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down to make you pay. general kenneth mackenzie, the head of central command, are cent. com said isis carried out the attack specifically isis k or isis correson and will likely continue to try and launch more attacks, adding that others have already been forwarded by security forces and cobble. the general went on to say to attack and hold to suicide. bombers detonating explosives outside the abbey date of the airport and nearby hotel. the hotel, followed by isis gunman, opening fire on civilians, men, women, and children. along with us troops and military personnel. there are warnings about to attack and it's certainly raises more serious questions about americans evacuation efforts. why it has become so incredibly catastrophic and also pass comments from president, bite himself about america's effort in afghanistan and the war on terror. this

mission to degrade the chairs tread about cod in afghanistan and kilo. some of been lot was a success. i believed that our presence in that gas dance should be focused on. the reason we went in the 1st place to ensure afghanistan would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland again. we did that. we accomplish that objective, president fighting thing really backtrack, even raising questions about whether the u. s. again, should have been in afghanistan in the 1st place to begin with, and certainly as long as the u. s. was there in nearly 20 years as far as the ongoing effort, general mackenzie said isis remains a, quote, extremely real threat and will try to carry out further attack something, present a bite. and also green was saying this was a mission designed for stress. and that was expected to come under attack, and certainly that happened, as we know, he said at this point it does not appear the taliban played a part in the attack. and that it's within the taliban interest for america to leave the country as well. he added that again while america will press ahead with

withdrawing and evacuating any and all us citizens and ask in nationals by august 31st. the august 31st deadline, he could not guarantee total security was in here. it sounds ridiculous, but the vast majority of people in communities like that want to come to america, given a choice. so getting every single person out is can't be guaranteed anybody because the termination or who wants to get out as well . and there has been intel sharing, and this was confirmed by general mckenzie between us armed forces and also the taliban. that so emphasized messiness of america is nearly 20 or involvement in afghanistan. now coming to heretic, violent and crashing. and it's not surprising to me when, when a isis and prisoners re weighed after the take over the

air force base. and it was pretty clear that now we have thousands of people who could do harm beyond the towel on. and the town on is not a tightly military unit, so it's not surprising. it's just farming, particularly for the men and women in uniform and the veterans that i've been working with get people. busy out of afghanistan over the past week, we got reaction to by the speech from legal analyst, jennifer de master and conservative, commented edmonton, who were both, far from impressed with the president's work. the global community is lost trust, and faith in joe biden, and his administration, a large truck now in the united states of america. despite the victory of the games in france, military job, i have managed to completely unravel and unwind that in a matter of months, putting our military in women's lives in danger. you know biting can get up there and say all he wants to cameras will hunt. you down and we'll get you,

but he has lots of credibility, not only this rate than the euro, our enemies, but he's a lot of credibility from our allies as well. i don't know how somebody is able to do that in 9 months of an administration, but i don't think anybody is surprised that it would be under the biting ration. we're watching the bible presidency deteriorate before our eyes. this president is not handling this well and everyone knows it in america and the people in the rest of the world know it. so it's actually a very dangerous time. i hope the present is careful and slow and methodical. but right now what we're portraying is weakness and an uncertainty. he says at the end of his speech, and now i am allowed to ask the person, and course as i was instructed and right now, shina is looking to taiwan. and bad guys are looking at america and saying, let's take advantage of this really weak, really embarrassing moment in american life. it's

a big concern in the wake of the blasts multiple european leaders now readjusting their evacuation plans. the august 31st deadline is 4 days away and to which no western force is sent to remain in cobble with more on reaction from the new britain and further afield. we heard from our correspondence ali and peter oliver for justin year from the us as well. i'm 20. 0 good. seattle has just recently has said that he will be convening a meeting of the un security council on monday. specifically to talk about the ongoing situation in afghanistan here in year. if we've heard from sha michelle, the counsel president who comes in the attack and said that he hoped this wasn't going to see a resurgence in terrorism emanating from of gun stun, nato secretary general. you insult and, but also adding his voice to the condemnation of this talk. he said this evacuations would continue, that that remained the priority,

getting people out through cobble apple, where they possibly could when it comes to germany, they had to now through and kind of cut him out of the german defense minister that the german evacuation mission had been completed that's the evacuation of all german soldiers. busy diplomats and the remaining german police officers that were on the ground in afghanistan. they have since sent warm transport plane back to cobble apple. this is a special called go transport plane for, for taking people who require immediate medical assistance. taking people from the ground, their who are being caught up in this horrific terrorist attack and flying them off to what we understand to german bases in beckett's don, where they couldn't receive medical treatment there. we've also heard from high co must the german foreign minister who confirmed that there were no german personnel, no gen and citizens involved in the, the terrorist attack. you know, no, no germans were among be killed or wounded on the grounds. and when it comes to the

evacuation process, they said it had being completed, angular medical, the german chancellor, describing this attack as despicable said be the window of being able to get people out of the country. well closed pretty much. and i'm gonna come cut about the defense minister blaming that window, closing on the taliban, taken into consideration, this evening's events. we see that the risk, hello. so this is a high pressure situation in which to the q h. people from the country and operate an al lift. we know that the time window is narrowing the anomaly the, the attack that we saw today. and if we had a warrant in recent days, and also this morning, has made it clear that the pro ration of the operations in caboose is not possible . the security situation on the grounds. and the telephone's refusal to allow an extension pass the 31st of august, have made this impossible thought. well, here in rome, the defense ministry confirm no italians had been caught up amongst they killed

other wounded from the terrorist attack on friday. we have seen bo. busy with a number of those countries announcing the end of that q ation programs, norway said it was impossible for them to take anymore. people out. they've been joined by belgium, poland, and canada. all saying there was no more left to be involving their personnel from the ground fronts. we heard from a manual cross, the french president davis speaking in dublin to a meeting with the irish leadership. we have known these risks since the thought given a confusion that reigns in couple of the tensions at the airport. the next few hours will continue to be extremely risky in both couple and the pool for safety reasons and bus that will not remain enough. galveston, he will remain on bus or the mini and we will continue to have an ambassador and a team and an embassy for afghan as far as we are not recognizing a regime but a country french ambassador to get this done would continue his work from paris

that's the, the way people have reacted to the immediate news of this terrorist as i can cobble from, from around the european union, from rome to london isa over to you, any reaction from downing street because it wasn't so long ago that london was saying he would like to actually see the deadline extended. absolutely. we've been, in fact, over the last few days, the warnings coming from u. k. officials that there would potentially be some type of attack specifically targeting the evacuation as warning their own systems, of course, about the potential threats of this attack. and it's now played out as johnson, the prime minister. however, saying that the u. k. will be abandoning, they will, they see is their responsibility to continue to get people out of the country and say, those efforts will still continue. we're going to continue with operation. and

we're now coming to towards the, the end of it to the very end of it. in any event, what this attack shows is the importance of continuing that work is faster than as efficient manner as possible in the hours to remain to us. and that's what we're going to do. that the case manager of the fans have been saying today that they are working closely with their sources and their own assets that are in trouble to try to stop michigan. exactly. what happened is we've been hearing this evening and it appears that the attack is being attributed to the so called state in song group, who of course, in the pop attack, the town of i jones. and interestingly, himself, he wouldn't be drawn and exactly who is responsible, but took the time to explain and to point out as well. how about members as well have been killed in this attack? likely bar is something that realizing that of course,

we talked about how been assisting those evacuation attempts, but also not wanting to call blame on them because of course, those lines of communication, those lines of negotiation are going to be key in the coming days, not just again for that continuing actuation effort, but of course going forward about the type of government we might see what role the canada, what influence the u. k. would like to keep going forward. so bars, johnson, as it was still continuing to decidedly have that evacuation attempt continue . but also, of course, not costing any blame as an issue to say that's still establishing before the facts . political analyst shop, a raspy believes that the west intervention in afghanistan is what gave rise to isis in the 1st place. and the evil is spread by by these western elements in west and central asia, under the guise of warren tara had said to make defeat one is gone. i says,

he's a creation of mister marker on, you know, i wouldn't need the shipping u. k. the political elite and washington, but the reality they want to give the was and impression that they have the chaos situation in cardboard. that's valid by not, not in control. therefore, potentially also tried to give a warning sign to russia, china, iran, and the son that one is on may slip into a civil war again. now, rob, set up for this news. i don't think so. you company to me for more in 30 minutes. me ah,

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ah, hello welcome to sophie, good visionaries, me sophie shepherd, times of uncertainty. empathy is our moral compass, and outrage is our way through. but how to make sure that our good intentions do not pay the road to how i ask effective altruism evangelist. professor of philosophy at oxford university, william mcgasey, william o caskey, professor of philosophy at oxford university and the co founder of the center for effective altruism. surely, great to have you with us today. welcome to our show will face via thank you for inviting me on. so alright, so the movement here are associated with is called effective altruism. i mean, the very notion of effective altruism makes me wonder, can altruism be ineffective?

or even harmful and what cases? yes. so i think sadly isn't very often is ineffective or even harmful. so there are many attempts where people find do some of good actually end up achieving very little or just receiving far less than they could have done. so for example, a program in the united states called schedule takes juvenile delinquents and shows them round pins in order to scan them out of a life of crime. but this has been studied many times over and actually it turns out that this program increases the rates of criminal activity among those teenagers in the years following the program. so this is actually an example of an activity that's actively harmful, not just ineffective, but most of the time things do so.